The Reptile Queen & Blowing the Lid on the Alterative Media

[Debra]

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
In my opinion, she is just rambling and isn't actually providing anything but her opinion. How many times does she say "I think....", or "I believe...."

Alex Jones and David Icke's work speaks for themselves. If she has uncovered more information, she should bring it forth by all means, but to knock those two is not helping the cause at all. This is her whole argument, that she found additional info that others haven't, so they must be disinfo agents? Really? Those two have done 1,000x more than she has to expose the elite, and the true nature of their plans.

This is the last time I'll watch anything she has to say. How many books and videos does she have exposing these things? When she was asked by the interviewer she changed the subject and incredulously says that all the others in the alternative media are being controlled.

Someone should let her know that her 15 minutes have expired.

Hi UnrealDreams, thanks for your response. I like your directness

I guess I was more involved in Mel Ve's own research into the occult - and joining some dots together from her own perspective. It is also interesting to later move into her written work. She is not just writing articles, she is producing books as well, and so I think she has a lot to offer - though, perhaps bringing it all together - is something that she is still maturing into.

I quite like the style that Lisa M Harrison allows with her interviewees .. it is very raw, and there is a sense of transparency that occurs. Of course, Mel Ve´s own personality is pretty high octane, but I also think her heart is in the right place.

I don´t know whether you have seen her earlier work, but I first came across her with the interview that she conducted with Bill Ryan. I thought that was excellent.

Otherwise, I would like to hear MORE about her understanding of the alternative media, more about her research findings that transcend some of the territory that David Icke has investigated - and definitely some more substance about her controversial claims relating to both Icke and Alex Jones. I can understand people´s reaction to her blazing through claims on the surface - and not going further in this interview. But, this was the direction it went.

I agree with you that Icke and Jones have spent many more seasons in the field, but I certainly hope that someone of Mel Ve's passion for justice is going to stick around and continue to contribute to the alternative media arena for some time.

We need more people like this, IMO. She is an ardent truth seeker - and I don´t think we can fault her for putting herself on the frontline, either. I don´t know about others on this forum, but I am sitting in relative anonymity here behind my keyboard. Far, far away from the frontline. In my books, that takes enormous guts.

[str8thinker]

I agree with Zebra, she doesn't go into anything too deeply, though her advice is good.

As for the "reptile queen", I'm far from convinced that Melusine was a true reptilian. Seems just as plausible that she had a non-lethal form of sirenomelia, a well-recognized condition in which both lower legs are fused. She may also have had a form of congenital ichthyosis ("fish-skin"), causing scaly skin to appear on the arms, legs and elsewhere. Why else would she need to take a bath once a week? To soften and remove the scales which would have accumulated. Dragons shouldn't need to take baths to transform themselves.

Sirenomelia is usually lethal a day or so after birth, but occasionally can occur in a milder, non-lethal form (see first link).

In the old days of ignorance, people born with severe congenital deformities were called changelings (reasonable enough) and fairies, devils, etc. were blamed for their misfortune.

Unlike sirenomelia, mild forms of ichyosis are far commoner and do not prevent people from having children, thus spreading the gene. Since royalty has been so inbred, it is quite possible that recessive (double dose of genes, from mother and father) but non-lethal forms of such congenital conditions, well concealed, have been propagated in this way.

Nevertheless, it's equally possible that actual reptilian transformation could occur, so keep a balanced mind.

You might find these links interesting:

http://sirenomelia-syndrome.blogspot.com.au/

Fairies and the Folklore of Disability: Changelings, Hybrids and the Solitary Fairy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melusine

Ichthyosis

Changeling


Changelings

[Debra]

Posted by str8thinker (here)
As for the "reptile queen", I'm far from convinced that Melusine was a true reptilian. Seems just as plausible that she had a non-lethal form of sirenomelia, a well-recognized condition in which both lower legs are fused. She may also have had a form of congenital ichthyosis ("fish-skin"), causing scaly skin to appear on the arms, legs and elsewhere. Why else would she need to take a bath once a week? To soften and remove the scales which would have accumulated. Dragons shouldn't need to take baths to transform themselves.

Sirenomelia is usually lethal a day or so after birth, but occasionally can occur in a milder, non-lethal form (see first link).

In the old days of ignorance, people born with severe congenital deformities were called changelings (reasonable enough) and fairies, devils, etc. were blamed for their misfortune.

Unlike sirenomelia, mild forms of ichyosis are far commoner and do not prevent people from having children, thus spreading the gene. Since royalty has been so inbred, it is quite possible that recessive (double dose of genes, from mother and father) but non-lethal forms of such congenital conditions, well concealed, have been propagated in this way.

Nevertheless, it's equally possible that actual reptilian transformation could occur, so keep a balanced mind.

You might find these links interesting:

http://sirenomelia-syndrome.blogspot.com.au/

Fairies and the Folklore of Disability: Changelings, Hybrids and the Solitary Fairy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melusine

Ichthyosis

Changeling


Changelings

Excellent evaluation, thanks for your reply str8thinker.

That is most interesting. And a plausible alternative. I wonder if Mel Ve considered this herself, during research? Whether she has, and satisfied herself that this is not the case - that question is a good one to ask her as well.

Thanks for the links as well, I am going to take a look at these.

Best wishes,
Zebra

[jackovesk]

Posted by Zebra (here)

Posted by KosmicKat (here)

Posted by schneider (here)
I watched this Mel Ve video with Lisa Harrison a while back and she really stresses that people in the alt. media need to do their own research to avoid being mislead by some of the most popular figures in the alt. media.

Absolutely agree. So much of the time, a whistleblower emerges, or someone produces a new facet to an existing story, and everyone else parrots it (with a few variations, some claiming disinfo etc.)

I prefer to hold information "on the back burner" until I get confirmation from sources not associated with the "alt media" crowd. And I do. Sometimes from the most surprising sources. May have to consider logging and broadcasting a few examples.

That would be really useful KosmicKat. Please provide. I am a former journalist myself, and one of the reasons I left years ago, was disillusion with -not so much with what I was writing - but what was being done to it by the editors. Highly manipulated !

I have just glanced at an Australian program called Media Watch, which is on the public broadcasting channel and it is a weekly round up of faux pas and other observations throughout the media. But, looking at the online page today, there is a great breakdown of how information was reported by various media, recently in Afghanistan. And one of the comments to this analysis, I think makes a brilliant evaluation of journalism in general today, saying: ''many young journalists ... but certainly the ones I see in television and also some of the ones I see in print, are obsessed with the theatre of journalism, but not with the substance'' Thus, more concerned with themselves, than the actual story.

Says something, doesn´t it?

If you want to take a look at this breakdown of the media coverage, here´s the link:http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/tra...s/s3492281.htm

Thanks for commenting,
Zebra

Be very wary of Media Watch, the show has both Truth and an Agenda to its (ABC - 666) Network Master...

The program does unearth media/journalistic deciept, but always mixes in a psyop or 2 into their content...

Great (Thread & Video) by the way, both Mel V & Lisa Harrison are both genuine researchers...

Not so sure about Mel V's take on David Icke & Alex Jones relevations though...? It would be more likely that the likes of David Icke for example, may leave the Jesuits (Off the Table) in order to stay alive. Rather than vibrating at a higher level...

As far as Alex Jones operating through the Genesis Network, it doesn't mean much at all and even he has brought up these so called accusations up on his radio show on a number of occasions...

Rgs,

Jack...

[jackovesk]

FYI:

04/18/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis - 20110418: Only one man now stands between humanity and freedom: Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the Black Pope!

"Last week members of the White Dragon Society monitored and recorded a conversation between Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the self-described Black Pope and a third party who shall remain anonymous because he was speaking under an oath of silence. During this conversation Kolvenbach claimed he was Satan’s representative on earth and proposed the creation of a global dictatorship headed by himself. Kolvenbach is officially known as the former Superior General of the Society of Jesus. He is also apparently, the final authority behind the Western financial system whose signature has financed countless wars and other tragedies. The aim of his Satanic or Lucifer-worshipping cult hiding within the Roman Catholic Church, was to create a global dictatorship ruled by a modern day Caesar. They were also planning to massacre over 4 billion humans in order to start their 1000 year Reich or rule. The White Dragon Society is pledged to stop the Satanists and free humanity."

Before you all shoot me down for posting this, I knew there was a 'Black Pope' but had never heard of this guy before!

Here is a photo of 'Peter Hans Kolvenbach' with some of his Dodgy Evil Looking mates...



I did some further research and found this...

The Most Powerful Man In The World?

Count Hans Kolvenbach—The Jesuit’s General



So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You’ve maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the Rothschild's in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfman's in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.

While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented here.

To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!

After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another forty.

We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.

Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true, otherworldly cultural heritage.

When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.

In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically important material here in The SPECTRUM.

Read the rest of article here...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com.../blackpope.htm

Thread: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/edit...99&do=editpost

[Debra]

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Be very wary of Media Watch, the show has both Truth and an Agenda to its (ABC - 666) Network Master...

The program does unearth media/journalistic deciept, but always mixes in a psyop or 2 into their content...

Great (Thread & Video) by the way, both Mel V & Lisa Harrison are both genuine researchers...

Not so sure about Mel V's take on David Icke & Alex Jones relevations though...? It would be more likely that the likes of David Icke for example, may leave the Jesuits (Off the Table) in order to stay alive. Rather than vibrating at a higher level...

As far as Alex Jones operating through the Genesis Network, it doesn't mean much at all and even he has brought up these so called accusations up on his radio show on a number of occasions...

Rgs,

Jack...

That is interesting to consider (re media watch) thanks Jack. I would like to look further into the Genesis Network.

By the way, Mel Ve has just uploaded her latest video - to add some meat to her claims about Mesuline - the reptile queen

She is going for it. Maybe she will come out with more information about her ''claims'' about those being manipulated like Icke and Jones. Hmm .. it sounds like the Jesuits are something to fear. I notice too that Jordan Maxwell also sticks to ''The Vatican'' rather than ''The Jesuits'' when referring to the power of the catholic church .. fascinating. They are the top of the pile - but why not go for the top?

So far, Mel Ve is holding her ground. Here she is again:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fxVP-NmnE_0

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POST UPDATE:
Jacovesk, just saw your SECOND post. Looks very good. I will start reading.

BIG THANKS AGAIN.
Zebra

[UnrealDreams]

Posted by Zebra (here)

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
In my opinion, she is just rambling and isn't actually providing anything but her opinion. How many times does she say "I think....", or "I believe...."

Alex Jones and David Icke's work speaks for themselves. If she has uncovered more information, she should bring it forth by all means, but to knock those two is not helping the cause at all. This is her whole argument, that she found additional info that others haven't, so they must be disinfo agents? Really? Those two have done 1,000x more than she has to expose the elite, and the true nature of their plans.

This is the last time I'll watch anything she has to say. How many books and videos does she have exposing these things? When she was asked by the interviewer she changed the subject and incredulously says that all the others in the alternative media are being controlled.

Someone should let her know that her 15 minutes have expired.

Hi UnrealDreams, thanks for your response. I like your directness

I guess I was more involved in Mel Ve's own research into the occult - and joining some dots together from her own perspective. It is also interesting to later move into her written work. She is not just writing articles, she is producing books as well, and so I think she has a lot to offer - though, perhaps bringing it all together - is something that she is still maturing into.

I quite like the style that Lisa M Harrison allows with her interviewees .. it is very raw, and there is a sense of transparency that occurs. Of course, Mel Ve´s own personality is pretty high octane, but I also think her heart is in the right place.

I don´t know whether you have seen her earlier work, but I first came across her with the interview that she conducted with Bill Ryan. I thought that was excellent.

Otherwise, I would like to hear MORE about her understanding of the alternative media, more about her research findings that transcend some of the territory that David Icke has investigated - and definitely some more substance about her controversial claims relating to both Icke and Alex Jones. I can understand people´s reaction to her blazing through claims on the surface - and not going further in this interview. But, this was the direction it went.

I agree with you that Icke and Jones have spent many more seasons in the field, but I certainly hope that someone of Mel Ve's passion for justice is going to stick around and continue to contribute to the alternative media arena for some time.

We need more people like this, IMO. She is an ardent truth seeker - and I don´t think we can fault her for putting herself on the frontline, either. I don´t know about others on this forum, but I am sitting in relative anonymity here behind my keyboard. Far, far away from the frontline. In my books, that takes enormous guts.

I understand she is a researcher, which makes her ridiculous claims even more outrageous. I did a little research myself....and in about 15 minutes found vast material by David Icke and Alex Jones exposing the Vatican.

Alex Jones Interviews Vatican Whistleblower in 2009:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5K7Wl4f5rI

A search of Icke's website reveals 48 matches for vatican. David Icke exposes Vatican crimes9take your pick): http://www.davidicke.com/?searchword...ion=com_search

How can I take this "researcher" seriously? She is about 3-4 years late to Icke's and Jones's Vatican exposing party.

[jackovesk]

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)

Posted by Zebra (here)

Posted by UnrealDreams (here)
In my opinion, she is just rambling and isn't actually providing anything but her opinion. How many times does she say "I think....", or "I believe...."

Alex Jones and David Icke's work speaks for themselves. If she has uncovered more information, she should bring it forth by all means, but to knock those two is not helping the cause at all. This is her whole argument, that she found additional info that others haven't, so they must be disinfo agents? Really? Those two have done 1,000x more than she has to expose the elite, and the true nature of their plans.

This is the last time I'll watch anything she has to say. How many books and videos does she have exposing these things? When she was asked by the interviewer she changed the subject and incredulously says that all the others in the alternative media are being controlled.

Someone should let her know that her 15 minutes have expired.

Hi UnrealDreams, thanks for your response. I like your directness

I guess I was more involved in Mel Ve's own research into the occult - and joining some dots together from her own perspective. It is also interesting to later move into her written work. She is not just writing articles, she is producing books as well, and so I think she has a lot to offer - though, perhaps bringing it all together - is something that she is still maturing into.

I quite like the style that Lisa M Harrison allows with her interviewees .. it is very raw, and there is a sense of transparency that occurs. Of course, Mel Ve´s own personality is pretty high octane, but I also think her heart is in the right place.

I don´t know whether you have seen her earlier work, but I first came across her with the interview that she conducted with Bill Ryan. I thought that was excellent.

Otherwise, I would like to hear MORE about her understanding of the alternative media, more about her research findings that transcend some of the territory that David Icke has investigated - and definitely some more substance about her controversial claims relating to both Icke and Alex Jones. I can understand people´s reaction to her blazing through claims on the surface - and not going further in this interview. But, this was the direction it went.

I agree with you that Icke and Jones have spent many more seasons in the field, but I certainly hope that someone of Mel Ve's passion for justice is going to stick around and continue to contribute to the alternative media arena for some time.

We need more people like this, IMO. She is an ardent truth seeker - and I don´t think we can fault her for putting herself on the frontline, either. I don´t know about others on this forum, but I am sitting in relative anonymity here behind my keyboard. Far, far away from the frontline. In my books, that takes enormous guts.

I understand she is a researcher, which makes her ridiculous claims even more outrageous. I did a little research myself....and in about 15 minutes found vast material by David Icke and Alex Jones exposing the Vatican.

Alex Jones Interviews Vatican Whistleblower in 2009:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5K7Wl4f5rI

A search of Icke's website reveals 48 matches for vatican. David Icke exposes Vatican crimes9take your pick): http://www.davidicke.com/?searchword...ion=com_search

How can I take this "researcher" seriously? She is about 3-4 years late to Icke's and Jones's Vatican exposing party.

Hell hath no Fury like a woman Scorned...

[Debra]

Hell hath no Fury like a woman Scorned...

Love it!

You trying to stir the pot up Jacovesk?

UnrealDreams, we all know that David Icke has been gunning for the vatican for years - and any other despotic, evil regime that has surfaced to harm humanity (especially children). I love David Icke (based on his track record). I am now trawling through his archives on the vatican (are you?) but I am not looking for proof that he has overlooked the Catholic church. I have not just arrived on earth, you know. I am looking for the same level of detail that Mel Ve has come up with, in her attempt to push contemporary knowledge forward. Thus far, her claim regarding 'the reptile queen' is all that I am interested in. Her research (which she has tabled for us so far) includes further evidence from visits into the vaults of the Biblioteque in Paris, and other relevant, sources, to investigate this phenomenon in greater detail. That is all.

As for her claims, regarding who is compromised in the research field - I would like to know more about what she has to say about David Icke. If it is a false flag, then let´s see some hard evidence. Mel Ve, I am sure is not shy - not yet anyway - in taking the stand and showing what she has found. That day is yet to come. For now, it is just a question mark. We live in very ruthless times, all the darkness is coming up right now and the recent crapola that has been played out within and between the alternative media is testament to that. Although, I don´t think this is all bad either - the boil is being lanced - IMO, we are cleaning up here to co-create for a healthier planet and humanity - that´s my agenda anyway.

And by the way, I also have a soft spot for Alex Jones. As someone who has studied 'the human voice' I am particularly interested in what is behind 'his voice' - there is all sorts of noise going on that I am intuitively sifting through.

I do not have the 'so called facts' that Mel Ve has raised. Again, I would like her to present and and substantiate what she is talking about - just like anyone else. However, I do have a background in journalism - the best of which, I would add, has sadly gone missing in recent years. And, yes I can resonate with what Mel Ve *might* be alluding to. I do believe that control, manipulation and compromise is endemic in mainstream media and I would say, further afield as well. A former colleague who is quite high profile and stayed in the profession told me just recently to not even bother returning. She said: you would not like what has happened, it has become much, much worse - it is now a factory. And don´t be fooled, she added, the big media groups now have their fingers in so many other media house pies, even those you think are still holding up the last bastions of honest editorial.

So, business as usual.

I would say: stick to listening to everything that comes your way, and do your own comparative research. However, do not turn Icke, Jones or ANYONE into a guru and a font of truth. David Icke is the first one to tell you this.

And I think that every one of them that make up this alternative/research paradigm - Mel Ve included - are here to plant some action into you and me, to get our individual and collective butts moving - and not just spend our spare time shooting the posts on Project Avalon. Otherwise, what are we? Our level of exchange is just as questionable at times - it disappoints me. That term comes to mind - bottom feeders. I would like us to be better than that.

You know, I like what Randy Maugans from Off Planet radio says at the end of each show - the truth is out there, it´s in you.

I believe in collaboration - and most of all to be generous in this pursuit of the truth. Do you not feel the same, UnrealDreams?

Jacovesk? Anywone is anyone out there

I would like to suggest, that we prepare some questions for Mel Ve. Questions that could help her and also us to hold our ground and uphold out integrity.

I love that you all respond to this thread, and contribute some really good information (Jacovesk, thank you again).

I really honour you all. Let´s not take our eyes off the real reasons we are here, which is to see justice for the heartbreaking content that is being presented - whether it is by Icke, Mel Ve, Jones. Just by being here, you have an undeniable passion for some of the hard core topics that are brought into this forum. How many people in your real world, go anywhere near this?

But, how we discuss them amongst ourselves is important, folks. If that can be a healthy dialogue, which engenders greater depth and understanding - perhaps we can really start playing a more pivotal role in helping to accelerate real and positive change out there in the real world.

What say you?
Cheers,
Zebra

[Debra]

Eric Jon Phelps Interview ... FC´s Continuing Series on Vatican Related Issues

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5O42apIHzJw

Mel Ve´s second in the series that talks to people who are challenging The Vatican. Eric Jon Phelps www.vaticanassassins.org has written a book ''Vatican Assasins'' and is attributed also with making controversial claims about Alex Jones and compromised alternative media.

Some further reading about Phelps is not to be found on his own website but there has been plenty written about him - and mostly highly critical:

''Eric Jon Phelps: Zionist Promoter, Israeli Diamond
Merchant, New Ager, White Separatist''
http://www.conspiracyworld.com/phelp...t_promoter.htm

It should be interesting to hear what questions Mel Ve asks him. And to learn more about why she thinks he is important enough to talk with.

Love to hear your comments,
Zebra

[Debra]

Bumping Jacovesk's post here #25

It is relevant to create a greater back story that readers can refer to. It is the transcript of an earlier interview with Eric Jon Phelps - that details his knowledge about the Black Pope, and the long arm of the Jesuit order which, he claims, reaches into controlling both the High Zionists and the Nation of Islam - and using this polemic to foment anarchy and agitation.

I will paste the beginning of the interview in the post following.

It is worth reading through to the end ... it is lengthy, so a link will be provided for those of you wishing to read on.

Posted by jackovesk (here)
FYI:

04/18/2011

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis - 20110418: Only one man now stands between humanity and freedom: Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the Black Pope!

"Last week members of the White Dragon Society monitored and recorded a conversation between Peter Hans Kolvenbach, the self-described Black Pope and a third party who shall remain anonymous because he was speaking under an oath of silence. During this conversation Kolvenbach claimed he was Satan’s representative on earth and proposed the creation of a global dictatorship headed by himself. Kolvenbach is officially known as the former Superior General of the Society of Jesus. He is also apparently, the final authority behind the Western financial system whose signature has financed countless wars and other tragedies. The aim of his Satanic or Lucifer-worshipping cult hiding within the Roman Catholic Church, was to create a global dictatorship ruled by a modern day Caesar. They were also planning to massacre over 4 billion humans in order to start their 1000 year Reich or rule. The White Dragon Society is pledged to stop the Satanists and free humanity."

Before you all shoot me down for posting this, I knew there was a 'Black Pope' but had never heard of this guy before!

Here is a photo of 'Peter Hans Kolvenbach' with some of his Dodgy Evil Looking mates...



I did some further research and found this...

The Most Powerful Man In The World?

Count Hans Kolvenbach—The Jesuit’s General



So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You’ve maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the Rothschild's in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfman's in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.

While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented here.

To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!

After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another forty.

We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.

Let’s call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true, otherworldly cultural heritage.

When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.

In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically important material here in The SPECTRUM.

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The "Black" Pope
Count Hans Kolvenbach—The Jesuit’s General

4/15/00 RICK MARTIN
The Spectrum Newspaper

[Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the information presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his historical research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has been presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And that is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh.

However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which typically has cultivated a more aware spiritual perspective than the general public—we do not want to give the impression that we agree with (or wish to promote) some collateral aspects of Eric’s presentation having to do with his personal "religious" convictions. The focus of those convictions follows a much more biblically conventional (literal) path—in stark contrast to the unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical material.

Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own—for you to sort and interpret as you see fit—rather than being singled-out to be addressed editorially. However, in this case, the practical side of Eric’s stated religious convictions include the condoning of some degree of violence (or violent protest) and use of armaments. And such convictions are very much the opposite of our philosophical position—for many reasons, not the least of which is the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which would result from choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency responses to schoolroom Earth’s current challenges.

Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines" thoughtfully, there is glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual message in Eric’s commentary—of "Have the courage to speak The Truth" and "God helps those who help themselves"—which we certainly DO agree with wholeheartedly and have long supported enthusiastically.

We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet. The Light of Truth, intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging many to step forward and share what they know. Will such ones follow that nudge or continue to hide in fear? The answer to that question is perhaps the most important aspect of schoolroom Earth’s relentless testing at this critical time.

One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts & Entertainment (A&E) cable television channel just started to air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new two-hour documentary called: The Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can study it carefully; within the lines of dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries are many, many clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having read and digested the following.]

THE INTERVIEW BEGINS

Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your book is so comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global control by the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to begin our conversation with a very important point of clarification so that our readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical narrative we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have ever read. I want to tell you, I am impressed!

You, literally, link every major global conflict and political assassination to the hands of the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many other groups you mention, have been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit Agenda.

Today, the present. I’m going to start here, and then we’re going to go way back in time and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it will give a foundation for going back in time.

Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?

Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof.

Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he hail from?

Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.

Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?

Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit headquarters.

Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?

Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s headquarters of the Knights of Malta.

Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?

Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.

Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?

Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.

Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes and so on.

Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the world knows who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.

Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top Jesuits—just a second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.

Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.

Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General?

Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for life—unless he becomes a "heretic".

Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?

Phelps: I would say that they’re the "professed", the high 4th Degree. When a Jesuit is professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my book.

Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our paper?

Phelps: Of course, absolutely.

Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and it’s similarity to the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and I wrote that question before I got back to the Protocols portion of your book.

Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols because they have carried out every protocol in that little handbook. They have carried everything out. And, Alberto Rivera says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate, Protestants, and Baptists in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack Chick published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V, & VI.

Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who published the Protocols. Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because they, and they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to pass.

They’re the ones in the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they would create "amusements".

Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason—Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’re busy overthrowing the Protestant form of government.

Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?

Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in New York.

Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And that has not changed.

So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood, not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are front-men who are involved in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the Cardinal, just like in politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and he would never say a word about it.

Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there’s anything that you don’t want me to print, please let me know because, literally, I’m going to print everything we say in this conversation.

Phelps: That’s fine, that’s fine with me because it needs to be said.

Martin: Let’s get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine the spotlight on this guy for just a little bit here. Let’s talk about him. What does he do? Who is he? Let’s talk about his position as "General". How do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does the Pope know he’s a pawn?

Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you want me to deal with?

Martin: Let’s just shine the light right on the Count.

Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok.

Martin: Let’s start there, and you tell me everything you want to tell me about that position.

Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total dictator and autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move. The provincials are his major subordinates. There are around 83 provincials right now.

As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83 regions. Ok? For each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10 provincials in the United States. There is one for Central America. There is one for Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into these provinces.

So it’s old Babylonian provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General himself; so it’s strictly a Roman form of government where all the states or provinces are subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.

The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation, he gets the information from the provincial of that country, how best to go about this, the demeanor of the people, and then he uses legitimate grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil Rights Movement. That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end result was more consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was written by [the longtime President of the University of Notre Dame, the Reverend] Theodore Hesburgh.

The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower Jesuits have no idea what’s going on at the top. They have no concept of the power of their Order.

It’s just like Freemasonry. The lower have no idea that the High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think that they’re just doing works and being good people. But the bottom line is that the high-level Freemasons are subject, also, to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great, wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when Fredrick protected them when they were suppressed by the Pope in 1773.

So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful Freemason they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their suppression. That is an irrefutable conclusion. And then, when you see the Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars carried out by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the Jacobins, whatever they did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order.

It’s to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte Cristo. The Count is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ. The Count of the Mount of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about the Jesuit General getting vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed, and many of them were consigned to an island, three hours sailing, West, off the coast of Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their power, they punished all of the monarchs of Europe who had suppressed them, drove them from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from Malta, using Napoleon.

And Alexander Dumas, who fought for the Italian patriots in 1848, to free Rome from the temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and one of the books was to expose this, and that was The Count Of Monte Cristo.

So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it’s really a satire on the Jesuit Order regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte Cristo has an intelligence apparatus that can’t be beat. Well, that’s the Jesuit Order.

But the Count doesn’t get what he really ought to have, or his last wish, and that’s the love of woman. He gains back all of his political power; he gains back everything he lost; but he doesn’t have the love of a woman. And THAT is the Jesuit Order. They have no women. They have no love of a woman. Because to have a wife, to have a woman, means you have an allegiance to your wife and family, and you cannot obey the General. That’s why they will NEVER be married, and that’s one of the great KEYS to their success.

They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish Catholics getting on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us in Vietnam and walk away. They can betray us every time we go to the hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and walk away, because it’s "for the greater glory of God"—Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the greater glory of the god who sits in Rome.

INTERVIEW CONTINUES HERE http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com.../blackpope.htm