What do you think hit the Pentagon?

[jimmer]

not sure if you all saw this forensic reconstruction (found on the thread that started this conversation).
if not, take a look (all the way to the end) and then ask yourself how a missile could do all the
blunt impact damage at and around the building. and what about all the aircraft debris?

if this doesn't fit your scenario, then keep thinking.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

[iceni tribe]

oops the guys that know let slip it was a missile.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o3LJXoXpAHE

[Beth]

Posted by iceni tribe (here)
oops the guys that know let slip it was a missile.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o3LJXoXpAHE

Nice find!!

[Samson]

The 911 case study above doesnt point out the impact zone was in tact the first 40 minutes, most windows were in tact and there was no hole anywhere near the size of that plane Find those pictures and do the math and youll know.
Several security cameras have filmed the impact. Why are those tapes not released to the public? The answer is it would jeopardise public safety according to government statements... Yeah sure the whole world could see a missile hit the pentagon and then....well guess. The vew frames that are released show nothing but an explosion.
Im from Holland and in Dutch there is http://www.waarheid911.nl/ ive read and seen all the info and disinfo there is about that day. In my opinion anyone who can see and/ or read can prove 911 was an inside job within a day or two. Just a vew official pictures can do the trick basicly. The case study above is not fact but fake.
Info for whos interested in why NIST Denies Access to WTC Collapse Data published on July 12, 2010 and
52 Photos of World Trade Center 7 Collapse on March 13 2010 can be found here http://cryptome.org/cryptout.htm
1 picture can say more then a thousand words.

if this doesn't fit your scenario, then keep looking. Government employees are lousy photoshoppers. 'all' the debris? Are you kiddin...

[iceni tribe]

jimmer's case study is done by INTERGRATED CONSULTANTS INC , they are a goverment navel base called POINT LOMA san diego at the foothills of the rockies..............Mmmmmmm

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Posted by jimmer (here)
not sure if you all saw this forensic reconstruction (found on the thread that started this conversation).
if not, take a look (all the way to the end) and then ask yourself how a missile could do all the
blunt impact damage at and around the building. and what about all the aircraft debris?

if this doesn't fit your scenario, then keep thinking.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

LOL What debris? a few small pieces. a large round hole was punched thru the building, lets see, a large airliner is composed mostly of crushable aluminum and would totally crumble into nothing at speed hitting a building. Work it out guys

[wynderer]

i remember reading that the part of the building that was hit [not by a plane or missile, imo] contained the offices of one part of the military w/a substantial number of patriots [non-NWO]

edit: if it was a missile, it must have been small & easily removed

really -- how can anyone still believe it was a plane? & i don't even know why i'm posting here -- there are far worse things going on in the present

[SPIRIT WOLF]

From my 8 years looking into this I have seen a large percentage of good honest US citizens still falling for the official story, no matter how strong the evidence against it. It was the part of that building that was undergoing renovations, it also was deliberately manned with minimum employees. Small debris was photographed, conveniently placed no doubt, but in absence were the two large engines. They carried out something under a blue tarp but that was fairly light in weight certainly no engine. If anyone cares to look at this with any logic they will see how ridiculous it was to assume a large aircraft could arrive at zero feet at probably 300mph or so and hit the building. All those that openly publicly said they witnessed such an aircraft are paid disinfo.

[noxon medem]

Voted not sure,
not because am not sure
but between the altenatives
it migfht be the best.
Not sure it was the allegded
plane that hit it, but have no problem
accepting the idea that a remote controlled
"airplane" hit that unlikely section of the pentagon.
It is possible the "hijacked" flight 77 also was
in, or over, the pentagon area at that time.
(the fly-over, theory)

[Zook]

Posted by jimmer (here)
not sure if you all saw this forensic reconstruction (found on the thread that started this conversation).
if not, take a look (all the way to the end) and then ask yourself how a missile could do all the
blunt impact damage at and around the building. and what about all the aircraft debris?

if this doesn't fit your scenario, then keep thinking.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

Flashy simulation. Suggestive, yes. But not investigative. First of all, the evidence at the other nodes of the 9/11/2001 attacks (specifically, the WTC7 collapse node) ... establishes the Inside Job nature of the attacks. Short of the preposterous situation where Inside Job can be established at one particular node and Osama bin Laden can be held liable at another node ... we can confidently assert that any genuinely investigative account of the Pentagon attack must produce evidence that corroborates the establishment of Inside Job (e.g. courtesy of the WTC7 collapse node). The following is one such corroborative account:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0169348087802#

The witnesses are all compelling (especially so, the two police officers who - thinking they are confirming the Official Story slash modern tall Arabian tale of Osama bin Laden and Nineteen Boxcutting Sheikhs - recount with absolute certainty the Northside passage of the putative Boeing jetliner that is alleged to have hit the Pentagon). Indeed, both officers assume the Boeing jetliner hit the Pentagon; a reasonable assumption given the huge fireball that they remember seeing. But here's the crux. The official story requires Southside passage relative to the Citgo gas station, e.g. in order to account for the downed light poles. Also, the third Citgo witness recounts how the jetliner pulled up to avoid hitting the "stop sign" structure (that spanned across the road next to the Pentagon). This is consistent with a flyover because, once you pull up at that speed and that close to the Pentagon, you won't have opportunity or enough reaction time to pull down again to impact the building.

One other note, in your simulated version, the Boeing jetliner is alleged to have impacted several light poles, a generator and housing box, and went headlong into a fairly tall tree (three floors high). How it had enough energy remaining after that to disappear into the building ... well ... I'm guessing Mike J Wilson, the man behind the magic, added fairy dust into his calculations.


Uncle Zook

[Snowbird]

Posted by Fredkc (here)
If no planes hit anything, then someone murdered 3 planes worth (about 500 people) in cold blood, somewhere. And they did it without leaving one speck of evidence.

Question is, If you're that good, why stop there?

Were I this dastardly, I would have begun my plot by making damned sure that, anyone involved who could have drawn a straight line between any two 'suspicious facts', was playing Pinocle with Jimmy Hoffa, within 30 days.

Exactly. However, it is thought/believed that there were a few who survived the gulag. I have copied/pasted a portion of my post from the other 9/11 conspiracy thread. Hani Hanjour in no way could have flown a 757 or a Cesna or a kite for that matter. The plane that hit the Pentagon could have contained on board, the parts that were seen after the fact. If the flight 77 passengers and crew were on board the plane that hit the Pentagon, they were already relieved from this life. That plane was auto-piloted.

"For those who wonder why after all this time, non of the air traffic controllers or the military personnel or eye witnesses have not come forward to tell their stories, I have two responses. One, they want to live to see their children grow up and two, many have already come forward...certainly not to talk to the government or the mainstream media, but they have covertly approached the victims' families. How do I know this? I have heard some of the family members state this very thing. The victims' family members know the truth of what happened. They have done the deep deep research.

What hit the Pentagon? A missile and a possible holographic plane. This "plane", was definitely not a Boeing 757. It was also definitely not flight 77.

I hate to sound so cold on this thread, but where were the strewn bodies and luggage, etc.? Yes, I have seen many pictures of burned unidentifiable bodies. Does anyone really think that our government is telling truth when they state that these bodies were recovered and returned to the families? And again, I don't mean to sound cold and heartless, but I have read that there exists a distinct possibility that a few, if not more than a few, of the passengers, especially some of the more famous ones, are alive and well...they just look a lot different than they used to look."

[bennycog]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ed=1#post49060

just a post on another thread here.. did not want to double post..

bennycog