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    Is it really important who jesus was, i have never understood the obsession with these myths. I call it a myth because from my point of view ,now, i would be talking about someone i have no idea, for me is no different from santa of whitesnow.Thats not to offend anyone , it doesn't have to do with what really happened, its just that whatever happened was just an event, and later was used for different purposes. So what makes Jesus so special? The fact he resurrected, the fact he sacrificed himself ? Well how many people, mothers have sacrificed themself during centuries for their children and loved ones, why arent they being worshiped the same way, how many have given their life for true love,and they shurely saw death as the real end , something jesus knew more about. Or maybe the fact he could turn people back in life,make food appear from nowhere, which of these factor,or all together made him people's saviour.

    Its not about him, it all may be true, and maybe he truely was such a great being, its about us , we managed to build an entire religiuos empire doing everyhing exept what this being really ment.I sincerely think if he could say something to each of his worshipers now would be to stop thinking about him all day and explore more about themselves, become truly indipendent, selfthinking, beings. And i bet he would be more ''proud'' of the ones that have the courage to doubt him, not just for the sake of it but because given the circumtances, what we know now, any being from higher densities with not noble intentions could have pulled of such a show, and tricks to fool the minds of the suffering souls at the time, thirsty for hope, for a way out.

    All i could do ,if i had personal proof of the existence of such being , would be respect, but to me these seem more the effects of a great magic show performed 2000 years ago , people still applauding for a show they didn't even see. Books and books written, rewritten, analysed , all for some tricks. Because if it was not about the tricks but for the message he gave things would be different, to me the bible is no different than the Brothers Grimm's tales. What reasons would you give me to see the bible more than just fairy tales.

    Do we really feel so hopless we have made this book the center of our lives, infinite beings worshiping ink on paper. If its more than ink than tell me what are the truths you get out of it. All i get is more distraction from our real nature, just quotes to be used here and there, a reason to follow a ''secure'' path, and for some make a carrier out of it. He said this, he said that, ...and you, what do you say ? I say he is just an imaginary friend that helps people make a sense of their lives, not question more, some nails on your hands and feets ,when you already know death is not a problem, doesn't make it a sacrifice, just some tricks, and they still work wonderfully. Whoever performed them indeed new what was doing. A fairy tale for grown ups, wile the writers of this fairy tale stay behind the curtain have a good ''healthy'' laugh at what goes on here ,healthy for them but deadly for us. Jesus yes, jesus no, who cares, time to move on.

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    If one reads the posts its not important who Jesus was personally but taking a circumstance that was posited around spiritual development and creating an archonic energy around it--which really is important if one wants spiritual development. If Jesus is a waste of time we can reframe this into the zillion other circumstances that had the same sort of infiltration...?

    Any importance that Jesus had was shrouded by deception which is the actual point of the thread.

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    I'll admit I really loved the core of the message I personally got by reading the sections of the Bible devoted to Jesus. Specifically about loving your fellow man and disobeying any social, religious or legal prohibitions that get in your way of doing that. Being nonviolent (as often as possible, even the money changers showed there was a time and place for it) as often as one can and yet still defiant. (Turning the other cheek was actually considered a mark of defiance at the time) It was an example of perhaps, a newer, better way to live and form a society based on shared connections between people rather than separating them into competing castes or groups that fight over the table scraps left by whatever ruler is currently in power. Even at my angriest I still really feel like that message was something not even I could talk badly about. That said it seems few people focus more on the spirit of Jesus' message rather than the oodles of superficial trappings that came around him.

    Whether he existed or not, the message is still a good one and I think that's why it's survived to this day. The Archons or whomever could not destroy it, so they had to find a way to pervert it to suit their needs. Modern fundamentalism shows of how this can come full circle and do just that. Despite Jesus' message being every bit about being open, loving, honest and non-judgemental of others we have millions upon millions of American Christians whose religious practice, despite its claim to be based upon Jesus' teachings, is defined more by who they feel they are commanded to hate and wish violent oppression on. A message all about love, understanding and community has been twisted, especially thanks to the selective use of the old testament, into a message of cruelty, elitism, and intolerance.

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    Intreresting whys you have somewhere up there 9eagle9.

    Current controllers have had many attempts at grooming messiah figures such as Ben Creme and others to no avail... in spite of massive propaganda.

    Thinking of it in current terms and in view of the colossal cointelpro spun around that Jesus guy... he must have been a hell of a whistle blower in his time!

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    Hi wynderer – these posts are like public PMs – I hope the forum admins don’t mind… anyways thanks for your posts

    I will be posting my story along the way – there are some very difficult moments that are very hard to make public but I am going to post them in short order – what I can say now is that my experience began when I was about 6 years old and continued until I was able to piece together the final key components which coincided with my ramp up in a most serious psychotic state that almost cost me my life – this was just 4 months ago.

    Wikipedia describes a messiah complex as - “A messiah complex (also known as the Christ complex or savior complex) is a state of mind in which an individual holds a belief they are, or are destined to become, a savior.”

    When I was young and would experience psychosis (this was only ever brought on by extensive usage of marijuana) I would always end up in the grip of a savior complex and my actions would land me inside a mental facility. One time, when I was in Timberlawn Psychiatric Hospital in Dallas Texas (about 1980) I was in an area we called “the small lounge” and in that room were 4 other patients. Three of them all thought they were jesus christ and the other thought he was satan. I managed to get them talking about who was who and why, etc. (I have always been a trouble maker).

    The satan guy remained calm throughout but the three jesus guys got pretty worked up as you can imagine. I recall getting reprimanded by the staff for inciting the conflict that arose. What is ironic is that I also had the same “I think I am jesus” issue but had always kept my mouth shut about it. That experience helped reinforce my doubt and played a significant role in why I never completely gave in to accepting the possibility that I was jesus.

    My point is that this is not an uncommon occurrence. Some of us who experience a messiah complex are extremely good at hiding the fact we think we are jesus.

    Thank you for your kind words and many posts you have made in response to mine.

    i have told you before that i know you are a good man, but i have always sensed something dark hanging around you also -- if you choose to share your story as it unfolds, i'll read w/interest

    It has been a very dark journey. I am about to post one of the worst segments of this journey and you will see it gets really ugly – and sadly it is all true.

    Thanks for sharing about your struggles with alcoholism (that is also a part of my story). I understand about the blackouts and waking up somewhere and not remembering how you got there. I got very deep into alcohol and cocaine. Cocaine can get extremely dark. But strangely marijuana always seemed to lead me down a road that eventually ended up in psychosis. I have since learned that there have been medical studies about this phenomena – these can be found on the internet so I won’t past any links… but they claim that a small percentage of marijuana users can and do go psychotic.

    Great news on your 5 years. I once went 7 years and then had a glass of wine. Two years later my life was completely wrecked again. That was in 2001. And I still did not completely stop though I did a 9 year “functioning alcoholic / occasional cocaine user” stretch which I one day stopped for no particular reason in March of 2010. In August of 2010 I picked up marijuana again (after not using it at all for 9 years) and within 16 or so months reached my most psychotic state of my life). I ended up one day opening the sliding glass windows (nothing but a metal bar between them), climbed completely out the window holding onto only the bar with my feet on a six inch ledge. This was on the 33rd floor of my apartment in Panama. I thought I had to jump to save the world. As I hung there ready to let go, images of my three sons and my wife flashed into my head. I recalled my promise to my sons I would never kill myself and changed my mind and climbed back into the apartment.

    I had made that promise to my sons because my father committed suicide (or was suicided) when I was 21 years old and I vowed I would never make my sons have to experience what I went through. It is ironic my father’s death in a way saved my own life but it was very, very close. When I think back to that moment, I get a really freaky feeling inside because I remember the thoughts that were going on in my head and I realize I was so so so close to letting go.

    What led up to this moment was a total internal battle with the archons. Some of the specifics related to these archons directing my internet searches so I would find information that led me to the conclusions I had to kill myself to save the world. I can’t post about that part yet because its very very hard to recreate the memories… I am still too weak emotionally. But I promise I will post it as its part of the overall story and will need to come out. Suffice it to say, Horus was involved as was the discovery of a link between Horus and the archons and that the archons can take the form of an amoeba shaped object. If you read my post of my “encounter” when I was 6 years old, the amoeba object was a central character in that event.

    Its funny you mentioned about screaming out Jesus help, help. I have done the same and I am also not religious. I used to think it was due to my programming… due to how common it is in the western world to hear jesus’ name called out by others, how often its heard in movies, etc. but I have to admit, I have done it a lot and still do. When someone tells me a bad story I say "Jeeez dude" all the time.

    The thought forms thing you mentioned surrounding jesus, my messianic complex experience and my intellect all have me convinced that jesus was just a man if he even really existed. I would be lying if I did not admit I have an emotional tie to a concept of jesus that I keep secret to myself. I will say this, in my concept he was still just a man BUT, he really cracked open the programming and cut through the BS and spoke about it. But also in my concept of the man, he didn’t perform miracles though he may have been present when witnesses perceived events to be miraculous occurrences and that these witnesses (not understanding how reality works) perceived these experiences as emanating from jesus… not realizing their own role in the occurrences. But that is because I have a very different view of magic.

    For one, I never perform (or attempt to perform) intentional magic. Number two I do not believe a magical act aimed at influencing one or more other people that are not in full agreement of the magic is a wise thing to do. Number three if one or more people come to a magician and ask the magician to perform a magical act aimed at themselves and the magician performs the action and the magical intention is achieved, the targets never learn they can do the magic themselves and this is what makes priest classes and followers – to me silly. Number four, because of number two – magic targeted to one or more unknowing individuals, one is casting their will upon another without the others permission. The magician may think their action is “white” magic but I see any magic of this sort as black magic.

    I guess I must be honest in that I do perform one type of magic - I call it clear magic. Its simple – clear magic is when you look upon a situation, allow your emotional state to rise (the emotional state of love and understanding and empathy) and then I ask spirit to help in any way possible and then I move on knowing that spirit has it handled far better than anything I could conceive.

    I also have experienced the power to heal but I believe we all have that power… some can cast healing energies better than others. I once came upon a man in the midst of a massive gran mal seizure in a jail in Lubbock Texas. I was in the walkway that surrounded the cell areas. Three or four jailers were struggling with the man. A few of them were trying to shove a spoon into his mouth as he was trying to swallow his tongue. As I watched the incident I felt an overwhelming feeling of love for the man and an energy came up inside me… then the man seemed to catch my gaze just at the height of the energy build up and he suddenly locked his eyes on me and they became huge like he was seeing a ghost and instantly his seizure stopped. I recall thinking to myself I don’t wanna be some healer and so I avoided ever exploring healing. I was 19 years old at that time and I already knew I should stay away from that sort of activity as it only fed this messiah complex thingie.

    I am glad your daughter is already discerning for herself!

    I am very distrusting of psi experiences now as I am of the opinion all of that is openings for these archons. I hope, in time, I am able to remove them far enough from my sphere that I can have psi experiences where its just me and god (whatever that is … but not the demiurge and his archontic minions)

    I understand about the “christ” thing but I have to be careful here. I like how 9eagle9 delineated the various jesus and Christ meanings and mentioned christ consciousness. I hope I am of the Christ consciousness be there truly such a thing… my gut says there is but I am very very gun shy.

    The crucifiction story is a tricky one. Other sacrificial god/kings have also been crucified. In fact, some of the stories of horus stated the same – examples
    http://www.stellarhousepublishing.co...crucified.html
    and when one studies the mysteries one understands the trinity – father son and holy ghost – well it’s the same thing with osiris, isis and horus. Isis is the holy spirit - osiris – the father and horus the son. These trinities have cropped up many times. In fact, when this fact was raised in argument with the church that jesus was nothing special as this same theme had occurred over and over in the past, the church came up with the term “diabolical imitation” ahaha they said satan was so afraid of jesus he created false messiahs prior to jesus to support this very argument. Well how about my argument. They ALL are creations of the archontic forces, even jesus (and I am not saying the man did not overcome these forces but if he did, so can any of us which makes jesus no more special than any other living being… maybe a great example of one, maybe even the best example … but still nothing different than you or me).
    Here is a great link from a great site – bibliotecaplayades.net
    The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...ianazar_16.htm

    I already weighed in on karma – I don’t buy it. No creator of mine would come up with that but perhaps the creator would let us come up with it so maybe we made it real (with the help of the archons)

    You nailed it with the blood thing and the “reptilians” – that’s all that is – very vampiric. Some benevolent dragon society folks I know practice the starfire ritual. Check it out – that’s a nice way of getting their nourishment… Houman’s thread thoroughly covers other ways some of these folks get their nourishment – a practice that I believe is the very single root, core problem on earth at this time and unless humanity stops with this practice (human sacrifice and the consumption of human essences) I fear we may never be free of the archontic energies nor the matrix they bring with them.

    I want to believe there are true angels (benevolent angels) but if there are, where the hell are they? Clearly a mass appearance of angels would shake up humanity such that we might make a huge, immediate change for the better… but they don’t appear.

    That Jehovah god seems like nothing more than the demiurge under a different name.

    Thanks for the exchange, wynderer… justone
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    from 9eagle9

    Jesus made it obvious that the best part of Jesus wasn't Jesus but Holy Spirit,

    I totally agree with that one - Isis in the Osiris, Isis, Horus trinity... the feminine component as well. Sophia (wisdom) in the gnostic cosmologies...

    Thanks 9eagle9

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    Quote Posted by Davy (here)
    Why is it when there is a debate involving Christianity we get assaulted by the chosen-people mentality or authoritarian tendencies that Jesus is the only way? If your non intrusive beliefs or actions are not in accord with Christian "morality," then you get the tired old biblical fear-mongering sermon "Jesus is the one and only way to God." Such a brainwashed quotation.
    Its my view that this type of view is nothing more than a perfect example of what the archons love to feed upon. They want us to be fanatical, they want us to believe in "super beings" in part so we do not believe in ourselves (that we are equally capable beings). Its very hard though to penetrate fundamentalists and/or fanatics. And what I often find is that they have a clue, but miss the deeper meanings by holding on to literal interpretations.

    I will say this though... I know some that are "stark raving saved" that are the most positive minded, solid as a rock examples of a human you will meet. They got that gleam in their eye and that smile that never changes look... But, I just don't see being helpful to the vast majority of humanity that turns you off the moment they hear, "You know, Jesus died so that you can be forgiven all your sins and unless you accept him as your lord and savior, you will go to hell when you die." sorry folks, but that loses me right there.

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    Not all of "Christianity" teaches nor maintains the same viewpoint on Jesus or the Bible. There are a myriad of differing opinions on Jesus in Christendom - who he was, and what he was about - so that for anyone to speak on this issue intelligently, that one would need to study the "many" differing views, and not just state what the mainstream religion has to say on the matter. Everyone speaks from their own personal background, experience and knowledge base - paradigm - and that does not make anyone right, nor does it make anyone wrong. I do not trust "mainstream" anything, on any subject, that is just asking to be lead to the slaughter imho. Bottom line: it all comes down to Faith, Hope and Love. What we do with that is up to us.

    In case you are interested, here are a few differing viewpoints that you most likely have never studied, and there are many many more~

    http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/tablecontents.htm

    http://www.godfire.net/

    http://www.cswnet.com/~rmorton/Chris...l#anchor727379

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    Christianity amuses me because its taken so seriously, but at the same time its adherent's trivialize it so much, have such a need to defend it (spiritually speaking only the guilty need defense) yet others are supposed to take it so seriously. I observed a woman with this horrendously tacky pave diamond Jesus on a Crucifix not so many moths back. The diamond studded savior had rubies for eyes, rather making him look like a mad dog. Trivializing, if not out right exploiting their beliefs but everyone else is expected to take them so seriously. I have a small lurid hot pink mini Bible with a pseudo leather cover. The scripture within has to be read with a loupe or a magnifying glass indicating it really has not spiritual or scriptural intent to it but is reduced to this sort of faddish novelty.

    Christianity is also interesting as it sort of represents the fragmentation of the psyche, by having so many splinter groups (defense systems) that when Christianity is critically examined, you have a convenient voice to gabble in defense that no all Christianity is the same, further emphasizing what a fragmented and shaky institution that it is.

    Christianity would probably not suffer as much if were in fact all the same. Or rather, at least consistent.

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    Religion is one of the biggest lies of all time, it has been around since the beginning of time. Religion leads an individual away from Truth by using a semblance of truth (symbols). It is a relationship with Truth, with the Enlightenment within you, with the Source of all, that brings a person into the image and likeness of God. Religion only uses the symbols of truth, and then it brings the individual under the law of that symbol of truth that is man created - but it is not the truth, and only a symbol like the ring. This is why religion looks so good, and seems to be the way to God - but it is not.
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    9eagle9-- Was it not the aim of the Spanish Inquisition to ensure EVERYONE had the same point of view? As were the burnings during Tudor times in England when catholics and protestants burnt each other in flaming pyres over points of doctrine!

    The trouble is that many so religious people of all faiths become so giddy with exhilaration at having found their version of the perception of the truth that lies at the centre of existence that they want everyone else to conform to it.

    Jesus had a good story to tell and he also had some good ideas on living ethically and well, and in that he mirrored the sages of many other faiths. For instance-- we should all love one another, seek peace. obey laws, be kind and respectful to others from countries other than ours--- and there's lots more. It would do no harm to live like that.

    But was he god? Or even the son of a deity? I actually do not think so. Jesus, if he really lived, was a good man, born at an amazing time in human history, when there was a huge explosion of knowledge and exploration. But none of us is going to be able to live forever or meet angels. So perhaps we should make what we have the best we can be and be thankful we can read the stories of the life of such a remarkable man .
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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    But, I just don't see being helpful to the vast majority of humanity that turns you off the moment they hear, "You know, Jesus died so that you can be forgiven all your sins and unless you accept him as your lord and savior, you will go to hell when you die." sorry folks, but that loses me right there.

    yes this is the essence of the message


    repent be baptized in Jesus Name and sin no more

    and Jesus will send the Holy spirit to spark our spirits

    so we become children of God



    i don't understand it but i see it works

    so i'm thinking perhaps God knows something i don't


    there are so many testimonies about Jesus which challenge reason

    but i'm thinking maybe God is above my mind




    a couple of testimonies about Jesus to wet the appetite








    i think it boils down to this

    will we listen to those who have met Jesus or will we give an ear to those who have not met Him

    and then form our opinions

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    i think it boils down to this

    will we listen to those who have met Jesus or will we give an ear to those who have not met Him

    and then form our opinions
    or we can take responsibility for ourselves

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)

    i think it boils down to this

    will we listen to those who have met Jesus or will we give an ear to those who have not met Him

    and then form our opinions
    or we can take responsibility for ourselves

    yes but when death comes

    then what


    it's best to seek God ourselves and His Name is Jesus

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    RedeZra--- So death comes, to us all-- that is certain. That is the end for us, though we will live in the memories of those who knew of us. It is our responsibility to ensure they remember us well.

    What do you think happens?

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    Jesus was, and is,.....more than a man!

    Jesus was, and is,.....more than an Archon!!

    and by no means is "this",.......inspired by Houman's Horus-Ra thread!!!


    Opinions and theories seem to be "very diverse" on this extremely important topic!

    Was He a "man" at one time?,.....the Scriptures certainly say that He was!,...but "also" that He was much, much more than that!

    1 Timothy 3:16
    King James Version (KJV)

    16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


    Who was "this One" that was,.....manifest in the flesh,.....justified in the Spirit,....seen of angels,.....preached unto the Gentiles,.....believed on in the world,...and then,.....received up into glory?,.......the Scripture says,......JESUS!! (note: this Scripture, along with many others, is giving us all a "very strong hint" that He was certainly "more than a man"!) (hint:.....I believe "IT" called Him God,.....didn't "IT"?)

    Was He an Archon?,....let's look, first, at what Merriam-Webster says about "archon"

    ar·chon noun \ˈär-ˌkän, -kən\
    Definition of ARCHON
    1: a chief magistrate in ancient Athens
    2: a presiding officer
    3: any ruler

    (note: in all "3" definitions above,.....Jesus surpassed these "roles" by a land-slide,....as fully indicated by the Scriptures,....once again!!)

    1 Timothy 6:14-16
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

    16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


    Folks, the above referenced Scripture contains no typo-graphical errors, in that it plainly tells us, correctly, that Jesus will one day,....once and for all,....show the entire World that He is the....."only Potentate",....the King of kings,.....and the Lord of lords.

    "Only" means "one" and "one, alone". It, at no time, has indicated a "plurality", regarding specifically a "plurality of Deities."

    Once again, Merriam-Webster reveals,......

    po·ten·tate noun \ˈpō-tən-ˌtāt\
    Definition of POTENTATE
    : ruler, sovereign; broadly : one who wields great power or sway

    (note: If He is the "only" Potentate,.....the "only" one who wields great power or sway,....I ask you,....is the Bible not, once again, giving us all "another great hint", at just "who" this JESUS was, in actuality?)

    Jesus was, and is,........more than a man!
    Jesus was, and is,........more than an Archon!!!

    Do you know "who" this Jesus really was,.....and is today?

    .......to be continued,......


    Love and Peace,........kreagle

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    Quote Posted by Ellisa (here)
    RedeZra--- So death comes, to us all-- that is certain. That is the end for us, though we will live in the memories of those who knew of us. It is our responsibility to ensure they remember us well.

    What do you think happens?

    i don't know

    but i think Jesus has the final authority

    and at the end of the age we must all appear before His throne

    and receive just judgement and final destination

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    Religion is one of the biggest lies of all time, it has been around since the beginning of time. Religion leads an individual away from Truth by using a semblance of truth (symbols). It is a relationship with Truth, with the Enlightenment within you, with the Source of all, that brings a person into the image and likeness of God. Religion only uses the symbols of truth, and then it brings the individual under the law of that symbol of truth that is man created - but it is not the truth, and only a symbol like the ring. This is why religion looks so good, and seems to be the way to God - but it is not.
    https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=PQmN-5Qhq8U

    go to 22:15 and listen to Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, a Finnish physician, explain why Nato's 1964 report on disclosure recommended that there not be disclosure -

    the # 1 reason is because of what it would do to all the religions -

    "they would all crumble down"

    such is the power of this number 1 vice of humanity
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    No that was not the aim of the Inquisition. That was what you were told was the aim of the Inquisition


    Quote Posted by Ellisa (here)
    9eagle9-- Was it not the aim of the Spanish Inquisition to ensure EVERYONE had the same point of view? As were the burnings during Tudor times in England when catholics and protestants burnt each other in flaming pyres over points of doctrine!

    The trouble is that many so religious people of all faiths become so giddy with exhilaration at having found their version of the perception of the truth that lies at the centre of existence that they want everyone else to conform to it.

    Jesus had a good story to tell and he also had some good ideas on living ethically and well, and in that he mirrored the sages of many other faiths. For instance-- we should all love one another, seek peace. obey laws, be kind and respectful to others from countries other than ours--- and there's lots more. It would do no harm to live like that.

    But was he god? Or even the son of a deity? I actually do not think so. Jesus, if he really lived, was a good man, born at an amazing time in human history, when there was a huge explosion of knowledge and exploration. But none of us is going to be able to live forever or meet angels. So perhaps we should make what we have the best we can be and be thankful we can read the stories of the life of such a remarkable man .

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    You have pretty much described the potential of mankind if they choose to accept it.

    Not that it makes that potential true simply because the Bible states it but it is a just description of mankind's potential so I'm not sure what your point it.

    People like to believe , rather than to know. That is what prevents them from fulfilling their potential.

    I for one am the first person who wants to be at the throne when Jesus asks his sheep why they didn't try to be more like him ....




    Quote Posted by kreagle (here)
    Jesus was, and is,.....more than a man!

    Jesus was, and is,.....more than an Archon!!

    and by no means is "this",.......inspired by Houman's Horus-Ra thread!!!


    Opinions and theories seem to be "very diverse" on this extremely important topic!

    Was He a "man" at one time?,.....the Scriptures certainly say that He was!,...but "also" that He was much, much more than that!

    1 Timothy 3:16
    King James Version (KJV)

    16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


    Who was "this One" that was,.....manifest in the flesh,.....justified in the Spirit,....seen of angels,.....preached unto the Gentiles,.....believed on in the world,...and then,.....received up into glory?,.......the Scripture says,......JESUS!! (note: this Scripture, along with many others, is giving us all a "very strong hint" that He was certainly "more than a man"!) (hint:.....I believe "IT" called Him God,.....didn't "IT"?)

    Was He an Archon?,....let's look, first, at what Merriam-Webster says about "archon"

    ar·chon noun \ˈär-ˌkän, -kən\
    Definition of ARCHON
    1: a chief magistrate in ancient Athens
    2: a presiding officer
    3: any ruler

    (note: in all "3" definitions above,.....Jesus surpassed these "roles" by a land-slide,....as fully indicated by the Scriptures,....once again!!)

    1 Timothy 6:14-16
    King James Version (KJV)

    14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

    16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


    Folks, the above referenced Scripture contains no typo-graphical errors, in that it plainly tells us, correctly, that Jesus will one day,....once and for all,....show the entire World that He is the....."only Potentate",....the King of kings,.....and the Lord of lords.

    "Only" means "one" and "one, alone". It, at no time, has indicated a "plurality", regarding specifically a "plurality of Deities."

    Once again, Merriam-Webster reveals,......

    po·ten·tate noun \ˈpō-tən-ˌtāt\
    Definition of POTENTATE
    : ruler, sovereign; broadly : one who wields great power or sway

    (note: If He is the "only" Potentate,.....the "only" one who wields great power or sway,....I ask you,....is the Bible not, once again, giving us all "another great hint", at just "who" this JESUS was, in actuality?)

    Jesus was, and is,........more than a man!
    Jesus was, and is,........more than an Archon!!!

    Do you know "who" this Jesus really was,.....and is today?

    .......to be continued,......


    Love and Peace,........kreagle

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