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    Default Re: Obama Praises JP Morgan

    $3 Billion and Counting: JP Morgan's Loss Grows by 50% in 5 Days
    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...5-days/257312/

    But wait, how can this be happening if they are one of the best managed banks?!?!

    I suppose it's time for Jamie Dimon to step down and take a job as a financial adviser for the Obama Administration! or perhaps a position at the Federal Reserve Bank instead since he's so smart....I'm being sarcastic but that's probably what'll happen, there's no accountability.

    Hypocrisy has no bounds.....
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    Default Re: Obama Praises JP Morgan

    Quote Posted by DreamsInDigital (here)
    Well gee, if this doesn't further affirm that Obama is a Cabal Shill...
    I agree with you DID. But then what's up with bill wood saying he is a white hat? Has bill wood just completely lost his marbles? Just interested in your take on this.

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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    Truth is, even it were true, and it may very well be true, the articles of evidence keep popping up, I don't see anything happening till he is well out of office,.
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    Somehow my "inner knowing" is telling me this JP Morgan fiasco is somehow related to their closing their Vatican account for some reason. It relates to this thread I started some days ago, perhaps not so much concerning the alien connection, but surely the global financial connection of these big players.

    Thread:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...can-Connection

    My gut tells me this move they (JPMORGAN) did with the Vatican is directly connected to what we see happening right now with them, I'm curious to how Obama is gonna back peddle out of what he said about JP Morgan being one of the best managed banks?

    Perhaps he is so arrogant that'll just be his story and he's sticking to it
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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    ah yes just a misprint .....here you go
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/b...214423507.html

    Obama's former literary agency misidentified his birthplace as Kenya while trying to promote the then-Harvard Law grad as an author in 1991.


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    I'm sure it's just a miss-print and or forgery....just wait for a few days, the Whitehouse will come out with the "real" copy.

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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    Quote Posted by Oouthere (here)
    This reminds me of a colleague at work. He is a very well respected and religious man, but when asked if he would stand-up to an invading military he said no. He stated that someone else would. Tell that to the WWII Jews.

    Rich
    "Someone else will" is a despicable attitude. In other words, rather than get his own hands doing what was necessary, he'd let somebody get theirs dirty all to keep his smug pacifism. I would struggle to muster up any respect for him.

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    Default Re: Obama Praises JP Morgan

    JPMorgan Shareholders File Suit Against Dimon in NY Federal Court
    http://www.activistpost.com/2012/05/...t-against.html

    What good is this really going to do?
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    Default Re: Obama Praises JP Morgan

    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)

    Anyway, I´ve found out that my family name comes from other branch, the pirate branch of the Morgans, which is really cool.

    Hey Raf, buddy,


    Actually, the pirates were financed by the Illoonynaughties -- including the JP Morgan family -- in their efforts to rule the seas, both by legal and illegal means, so if you are from the "pirate" side, you may well still be related to the JP Morgan side of the family.

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    Default Re: Obama Praises JP Morgan

    Quote Posted by Mozart (here)
    Quote Posted by RMorgan (here)

    Anyway, I´ve found out that my family name comes from other branch, the pirate branch of the Morgans, which is really cool.

    Hey Raf, buddy,


    Actually, the pirates were financed by the Illoonynaughties -- including the JP Morgan family -- in their efforts to rule the seas, both by legal and illegal means, so if you are from the "pirate" side, you may well still be related to the JP Morgan side of the family.
    Holly crap!! So things are pretty bad!

    I hope those guy´s blood got pretty much diluted before arriving in my veins!

    Anyway, I feel much better being a pirate!

    Cheers,

    Raf.

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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    I might be wrong but did the US not already in the past have a president as non US native?
    Like Dad Bush (Germany)
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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    Quote Posted by Earth Angel (here)
    ah yes just a misprint .....here you go
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/b...214423507.html

    Obama's former literary agency misidentified his birthplace as Kenya while trying to promote the then-Harvard Law grad as an author in 1991.


    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    I'm sure it's just a miss-print and or forgery....just wait for a few days, the Whitehouse will come out with the "real" copy.
    You guys seem to forget that obama himself, vetted the book before it was published,
    so everything in the book must be true...

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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    Quote You guys seem to forget that Obama himself, vetted the book before it was published,
    so everything in the book must be true...
    It was not a missprint in the book but in a publicity booklet.

    That's the thing about mob justice - there is no reasoning with those who display high emotion, make loud accusations, stating them as if they are absolute truth, and who haven't two brain cells to rub together.

    Come on - surely you aren't that stupid?
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    Post Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...donesia-Hawaii

    Shocker! Obama was still 'Kenyan-born' in 2007
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-o...-born-in-2003/

    'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.T7aAYlIQSmw

    Obama's literary agent says he was 'born in Kenya'. How did the mainstream media miss this?
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ti...o-be-a-kenyan/

    Arizona Secretary of State Threatens to Remove Obama from Ballot
    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...-obama-ballot/

    Arizona official to Hawaii: Show birth verification of Obama
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/arizona-o...-verification/

    Clintons knew obama ineligible & dnc primary fraud - claims hollywood producer
    http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...102969264.html

    Ron polland: i created obama's certification of birth
    http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...-81294731.html

    hawai official: no obama birth certificate
    http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/

    Obama to Ignore Order to Appear in Atlanta Court for his birth certificate
    http://www.whitehousedossier.com/201...atlanta-court/

    Obama eligibility challenges spread to 6 states
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/obama-eli...d-to-6-states/


    Source: http://revivall.over-blog.com/articl...105401363.html
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    Default Exclusive 'The Breitbart Vetting': Obama 'Born in Kenya & raised in Indonesia..!!!

    The Vetting – Exclusive – Obama’s Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: ‘Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’



    18th May, 2012

    Note from Senior Management:

    Andrew Breitbart was never a "Birther," and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of "Birtherism." In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961.

    Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama's ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him.

    It is for that reason that we launched "The Vetting," an ongoing series in which we explore the ideological background of President Obama (and other presidential candidates)--not to re-litigate 2008, but because ideas and actions have consequences.

    It is also in that spirit that we discovered, and now present, the booklet described below--one that includes a marketing pitch for a forthcoming book by a then-young, otherwise unknown former president of the Harvard Law Review.

    It is evidence--not of the President's foreign origin, but that Barack Obama's public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times.

    ***

    Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

    The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.

    It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

    Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows (image and text below):



    Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.

    The booklet, which is thirty-six pages long, is printed in blue ink (and, on the cover, silver/grey ink), using offset lithography. It purports to celebrate the fifteenth anniversary of Acton & Dystel, which was founded in 1976.



    Front cover (outside) - note Barack Obama listed in alphabetical order





    Front cover (inside)

    Jay Acton no longer represents Obama. However, Jane Dystel still lists Obama as a client on her agency's website.

    According to the booklet itself, the text was edited by Miriam Goderich, who has since become Dystel's partner at Dystel & Goderich, an agency founded in 1994. Breitbart News attempted to reach Goderich by telephone several times over several days. Her calls are screened by an automated service that requires callers to state their name and company, which we did. She never answered.

    The design of the booklet was undertaken by Richard Bellsey, who has since closed his business. Bellsey, reached by telephone, could not recall the exact details of the booklet, but told Breitbart News that it "sounds like one of our jobs, like I did for [Acton & Dystel] twenty years ago or more."



    The parade of authors alongside Obama in the booklet includes politicians, such as former Speaker of the House Tip O’Neill; sports legends, such as Joe Montana and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar; and numerous Hollywood celebrities.

    The reverse side of the page that features Barack Obama includes former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader and early-1990s "boy band" pop sensation New Kids On the Block.





    Acton, who spoke to Breitbart News by telephone, confirmed precise details of the booklet and said that it cost the agency tens of thousands of dollars to produce.

    He indicated that while "almost nobody" wrote his or her own biography, the non-athletes in the booklet, whom "the agents deal[t] with on a daily basis," were "probably" approached to approve the text as presented.

    Dystel did not respond to numerous requests for comment, via email and telephone. Her assistant told Breitbart News that Dystel "does not answer questions about Obama."

    The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii.

    The biography does, however, fit a pattern in which Obama--or the people representing and supporting him--manipulate his public persona.

    David Maraniss's forthcoming biography of Obama has reportedly confirmed, for example, that a girlfriend Obama described in Dreams from My Father was, in fact, an amalgam of several separate individuals.

    In addition, Obama and his handlers have a history of redefining his identity when expedient. In March 2008, for example, he famously declared: "I can no more disown [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother."

    Several weeks later, Obama left Wright's church--and, according to Edward Klein's new biography, The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House, allegedly attempted to persuade Wright not to "do any more public speaking until after the November [2008] election" (51).

    Obama has been known frequently to fictionalize aspects of his own life. During his 2008 campaign, for instance, Obama claimed that his dying mother had fought with insurance companies over coverage for her cancer treatments.

    That turned out to be untrue, but Obama has repeated the story--which even the Washington Post called "misleading"--in a campaign video for the 2012 election.

    The Acton & Dystel biography could also reflect how Obama was seen by his associates, or transitions in his own identity. He is said, for instance, to have cultivated an "international" identity until well into his adulthood, according to Maraniss.


    Regardless of the reason for Obama's odd biography, the Acton & Dystel booklet raises new questions as part of ongoing efforts to understand Barack Obama--who, despite four years in office remains a mystery to many Americans, thanks to the mainstream media.


    Larry O'Connor contributed to this report.

    ON BREITBART TV



    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...donesia-Hawaii

    PS - In in all Honesty I really don't know what more Proof the (SHEEPLE) need...!
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    Default Re: Exclusive 'The Breitbart Vetting': Obama 'Born in Kenya & raised in Indonesia..!!

    Right, I only just saw this one...



    Thing is though, no matter where he was born, because his mother was an American citizen, B. Obama will be considered an American citizen born abroad...isn't that correct?

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    Default Re: Exclusive 'The Breitbart Vetting': Obama 'Born in Kenya & raised in Indonesia..!!

    Hey Jack,

    Please, allow me to ask something, since I´m not a US citizen.

    Since Obama is the son of a US citizen, he´s also considered a US citizen, right?

    To become president of the US, someone actually needs to be born in US territory?

    Cheers,

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    PS: Sorry for asking the same question. I didn´t see the above thread.

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    Default Re: Exclusive 'The Breitbart Vetting': Obama 'Born in Kenya & raised in Indonesia..!!

    Since the mother's age and US residency were the key factors (she would have to have lived ten years in the U.S., with five of those years occurring after the age of fourteen), he wouldn't have been a citizen -- his mother was only eighteen when he was born, and she would have had to have been nineteen or older for his automatic citizenship.

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    Quote Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
    Thing is though, no matter where he was born, because his mother was an American citizen, B. Obama will be considered an American citizen born abroad...isn't that correct?
    Yes, since Obama was born of an American citizen, his mother, therefore he is an American citizen.

    The question is whether he is a "natural born citizen". The meaning of that term is subject to some debate. See for example: http://www.theobamafile.com/obamanaturalborn.htm and http://uspolitics.about.com/od/polit...al_citizen.htm .

    ===

    P.S. -- I just read the post of Dark, above this post. He may well be right Obama is not even a citizen, for the reasons he provides.
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    Default Re: Obama Booklet Found from 1991, States "Born in Kenya"

    To me, this shouldn't matter. The man was clearly not born on American soil, but his mother is American, and he grew up in America. To me, he is 'American' as it gets. Whatever that means, policies disregarded. Really, all I see is a technicality, and a loophole in the American constitution which is archaic and doesn't really embody what it is to be American. To be born in America is not to be American and vice versa. Nor is the same true of any territory.

    However, we use this 'technicality' as a tool because we deplore his policies.

    What if he had been the greatest president in history, and had truly changed the world in the way that we at Avalon envisage? Would we want him out then because he wasn't actually born in America?

    The dreams of a man should not be bound by his circumstance. Allegiances are not determined by birth, and yet the one thing in which we have no say decides ultimately to whom we will bear our patrimony.

    Anyone in the world should be allowed to be president of the United States of America. If it is their conscious choice to become American, and they successfully become a citizen, they are no different to an American born.

    That is not to say that presidential candidates shouldn't be forthcoming about their real identity. A candidates suitability and 'Americanness' can be assessed by the public in an honest election (ideal I know), regardless of where the candidate was born, as long as they are a citizen. Obama is committing identity fraud and that is an inescapable fact. He should tell the truth, but at the same time we must forgive him for not adhering to what is in my opinion a ridiculous rule.

    We can focus our energy on this 'loophole', just to get one bad president out of the oval office, but there are certainly bigger problems to be addressed in American politics.
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    Default Re: Exclusive 'The Breitbart Vetting': Obama 'Born in Kenya & raised in Indonesia..!!

    TODAY ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW

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    On the Friday, May 18 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with investigative journalist Jon Rappoport. Jon's areas of expertise include deep politics, conspiracies, alternative health, the potential of the human imagination, mind control, the medical cartel, symbology, and solutions to the takeover of the planet by hidden elites. He is the author of AIDS Inc.: Scandal of the Century and The Secret Behind Secret Societies: Liberation of the Planet in the 21st Century. Alex runs down the news, including the latest revelations that Obama was born in Kenya, the ongoing fight against water fluoridation, and the upcoming NATO meeting in Chicago, which has been converted into a police state.
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