How do you feel about the Vatican, Politicians and Illuminati?

[IndigoStar]

I read a lot of threads on here about the above mentioned (and others) and there is a lot of negative energy and commenting related to them. I would like to propose a new way of thinking.

Based on the scientific proof (see heart math institute) that we are all connected, every negative thought we have about others (sick people, evil pieces of work etc) directly affects the planet and ourselves.

If we want to heal the planet we must send them love. We must move from a viewpoint of division (us/them - good/bad) to one of unity.

They are merely the physical manifestation of the collective shadow self of humanity. When each one of us heals our individual shadow the common vibrational projection we see will be altered.

Posting and complaining about the evils of any group will not change the situation. It is contributing to the playing out of a drama by the egoic mind. To acknowledge them is to actually give them more power.
To harmonize we must transcend this by finding the space behind the drama where peace lies. When we live in this space there is no need to criticize others.

When atoms are presented with thoughts, emotions and words of positivity they open up. When they are shown the opposite they close down. Atoms are inter-connected at a quantum level. Thus, everything you say, think and feel about others affects the atoms of your very being.

I propose that we send love to the pope. We send positive thoughts to the illuminati. We thank them all for providing us with this wonderful opportunity to break free from oppression. They have taught us a lot. They have allowed us to grow spiritually from this challenging situation we have found ourselves in. As a result, the universe has expanded.

Gratitude. Love. Compassion. Understanding. Everything is for a reason. It is all perfect the way it is.

What you resist persists. What you fight, you strengthen.

[Eram]

Hi IndigoStar,

I think you said it beautifully there.

In an attempt to widen the view of this concept

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
What you resist persists. What you fight, you strengthen.

I would like to show a story that inspired me deeply:

A Native American grandfather
Found his grandson crying after school
And discovered from the sobbing child
That a playgound bully had been cruel

I wish that I could hurt him said the child
And when I get big that's what I'll do
That would make me sad said the grandfather
Then I'll know the dark wolf is taking you

(Chorus)
There are two wolves
There are two wolves
And within each heart these two wolves fight
One is hatred
Rage and darkness
And the other wolf is love and light

The old man put his arms around the child
Said the thing you want is called revenge
But when you try to hurt the one who's hurt you
That's the momment you become like them

The old man said I know what you are feeling
Being human I have felt it too
The child looked into the ancient eyes then
Said gradfather tell me what to do

(Chorus)
There are two wolves
There are two wolves
And within my heart these two wolves fight
One is hatred
Rage and darkness
And the other wolf is love and light

The Old Man said child do not fear this battle
Though each Wolf will make the other bleed
It is in your power to choose the victor
The Wolf that wins will be the one you feed

(Chorus)
There are two wolves
There are two wolves
And within each heart these two wolves fight
One is hatred
Rage and darkness
And the other wolf is love and light

One is hatred rage and darkness
And the other wolf is love and light

~John Flynn Two Wolves Lyrics~

[IndigoStar]

Thanks wakytweaky. I LOVE that! Exactly the concept I wanted to express

The level of consciousness of the awakened humans on earth right now can be directly measured (imo) by the quality of posts on PA.

I hope we will see a decrease in the posts highlighting the 'evils' of the NWO, Illuminati etc etc and an increase in posts of an uplifting nature because we are ultimately trying to raise our vibration and that of the planet, are we not?

[Earth Angel]

excellent posts~!! I agree IndigoStar, if we want them punished or hate them we are no better than they are, we really need to get the point where we understand there there is only US.....we are ONE, hating someone, or wishing them harm in any way is like picking up a burning coal to throw at an enemy, you get burned !!

Love the two wolves story too!

[SKAWF]

i see what you're saying...

but like our immune system, i reject them.
in the same way, i wear rubber gloves when i do the dirtier jobs around the house.
otherwise i'm exposing myself to something that might do me harm.

polititions are merely the officers of the control. minions.

but the catholic church is a disgusting, perverse organisation which is responsible for theft, lies, child abuse, murder, spiritual starvation, and so many other things,
that if i dont at some point stand up and say ENOUGH!, if i dont reject it outright, when i realise what it is, then i am giving it tacit consent to carry on.

it thinks it owns the world, all property and all souls on the planet.
it sexually abuses little children all over the world.
children that carry that trauma around with them for the rest of their lives.
it is the epitome of evil.

i look at it like this, i dont like violence. it has a negative long term effect on me. i know that.
but if i'm threatened by something that is hell bent on harming me in far greater terms,
i will employ violence on an event basis until the fight is over,
and i can go back to living my life.
all that has to happen for evil to triumph, is that good people do nothing.

steve

[Maia Gabrial]

Regarding my feelings about the Vatican, Politicians and Illuminati: Icky, yucky and pooey!

[IndigoStar]

When you project negative emotions onto others YOU ARE HARMING YOUR OWN DNA! You are actually damaging youself, so the ones you are hating on 'win'!
The solution is to send them love or not focus on them at all.

Not only that, dna affects other dna so when you project negative feelings onto them, their dna deforms and so does yours.

I am proposing a SOLUTION to the current situation we see. Otherwise you are trapped in a vicious cycle of negativity. Who is going to break us free from it if not us?

Scientific proof:
Human placenta DNA (the most pristine form of DNA) was placed in a container from which they could measure changes in the DNA.

Twenty-eight vials of DNA were given (one each) to 28 trained researchers. Each researcher had been trained how to generate and FEEL feelings, and they each had strong emotions.

What was discovered was that the DNA CHANGED ITS SHAPE according to the feelings of the researchers:

When the researchers FELT gratitude, love and appreciation, the DNA responded by RELAXING and the strands unwound. The length of the DNA became longer.

When the researchers FELT anger, fear, frustration, or stress, the DNA responded by TIGHTENING UP. It became shorter and SWITCHED OFF many of our DNA codes!

If you've ever felt "shut down" by negative emotions, now you know why your body was equally shut down too.

The shut down of the DNA codes was reversed and the codes were switched back on again when feelings of love, joy, gratitude and appreciation were felt by the researchers.

This experiment was later followed up by testing HIV positive patients.

They discovered that feelings of love, gratitude and appreciation created 300,000 TIMES the RESISTANCE they had without those feelings. So here's the answer to what can help you stay well, no matter what dreadful virus or bacteria may be floating around. Stay in feelings of joy, love, gratitude and appreciation!

These emotional changes went beyond the effects of electromagnetics.

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Individuals trained in deep love were able to change the shape of their DNA. Gregg Braden says this illustrates a new recognized form of energy that connects all of creation. This energy appears to be a TIGHTLY WOVEN WEB that connects all matter.

Essentially we're able to influence this web of creation through our VIBRATION.

In a 1993 study reported in the Journal Advances, the Army performed experiments to determine precisely whether the emotion/DNA connection continues following a separation, and if so at what distances?13 The researchers started by collecting a swab of tissue and DN from the inside of he volunteer’s mouth. This sample was isolated and taken to another room in the same building, where they began to investigate a phenomenon that modern science says shouldn’t exist. In a specially designed chamber, the DNA was measured electrically to see if it responded to the emotions of the person it came from, the donor who was in another room several hundred feet away.

In his room, the subject was shown a series of video images. Designed to create genuine states of emotion inside of his body, this material ranged from graphic wartime footage to erotic images to comedy. The idea was for the donor to experience a spectrum of real emotions within a brief period of time. While he was doing so, in another room his DNA was measured for its response.

When the donor experienced emotional “peaks” and “dips”, his cells and DNA showed a powerful electrical response at the same instant in time. Although distances measured in hundreds of feet separated the donor and the samples, the DNA acted as if it was still physically connected to his body.

This experiment has been repeated on different sides of the earth and results were the same - INSTANT!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Ultimately, the only way for us to move forward as a species is for those among us who have evolved to take the darkness into themselves and dissolve it. Tonglen practice. Opposing it only perpetuates it. Accept and transform. That's what Neo was trying to show you at the end of the Matrix. We have to accept our shadow as part of ourselves. Welcome it home. And then, as a part of ourselves, we can transform it. Ice to water. Water to gas.



This human being is a guest house,
every morning a new arrival.
A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.
Welcome and attend them all!
Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house empty
of its furniture...
The dark thought, the shame, the
malice, meet them at the door
laughing.. be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond

- Rumi

[pugwash84]

That may be why, when I sit down moaping when I'm ill I feel worse. I think this may count when holding grudges aswell, or not forgiving yourself aswell as forgiving others.

[SKAWF]

okay, so let me put this to you....

lets say we are a small collective of about 50 people.
men women and children.
everything is good. we are free, we work together,
we look after each other though the good times and bad, and we have a strong bond.

then one day, man comes along claiming to be spiritual, so we take him in.

he then begins to divide us,
he lies to us,
he abuses our children,
he murders anyone that opposes or threatens his control,
and our collective is bathed in misery.

what would you do?

let him carry on?
do nothing?
not even reject him?

as i say, i know that carrying out acts of violence harm me long term (harming my DNA as you put it)
but i would still be inclined to crack him around the back of the neck with a big stick.

i would take the risk of harming myself through acts commited upon him,
but that would be nothing to the price we would all pay if no one did anything.

so you just sit there while he destroys our lives, and i'll take care of the problem.

i really think you should delve deeply into finding out what these monsters actually do to people.
talk to some who have been abused, or relatives whose family were murdered.
have a look into the spanish inquisition, and the looting of treasures from south america.
the catholic church have been at it for centuries.

crikey, i'm a bit wound up!

i dont hate them though.
i dont hate the germs on my kitchen work surface either,
i still get rid of them though.
because it falls upon me, if i knowingly expose those in my care to things that harm them.

and with that, i'm going to have a cup of tea.

ciao

i will add, that i saw a tear roll down the face of a man in his 50's, because of what the church did to him. i will never forget that.

[gypsybutterflykiss]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
Regarding my feelings about the Vatican, Politicians and Illuminati: Icky, yucky and pooey!

Yea, I just can't send the Vatican, politicians and the illuminuti and all it's ickiness love. It's kind of the same way as dealing with a sociopath, in my opinion.. It just sucks you dry of energy. Hats off to all you though that can actually do that.

It's one thing to forgive, I can do that, but embrace with love, I just can't.. Sorry

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I posted this a few weeks ago in another thread. I invite you to consider it-

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
So my teacher sat me down and told me a story. Another student of my teacher, whom we will call Lisa, had died the year earlier. She was someone I knew and had spent time in practice with. I knew that Lisa and my teacher were very close and had been for years. My teacher had been working with Lisa closely to help her overcome ritual satanic abuse that she had endured as a child and they had made a lot of progress over the years. But thousands of years ago, they had been mortal enemies. Long story short, Lisa had caused my teacher to be tortured and raped to death. And when she died, my teacher said "I hope someday you know what this feels like". When Lisa died, my teacher wept. Lisa and she had meant so much to each other and taught each other so much. They loved each other.

"And so", she said, "Do you understand? It's all an illusion. None if it is real."

It's appropriate to feel outrage and anger when we see a child harmed. It is very appropriate to take action when we can. But do not take into yourself. Do not make it personal. See the greater picture. Understand that this is all an illusion. Our feelings about this can pull us into the duality that perpetuates the violence if we allow it. These triggers are like the woman in the red dress in the Matrix.

And the other thing is that my teacher told me that in order for her to really spiritually heal this whole situation with Lisa's abuse, she had to be able to see everyone involved in the abuse as divine and perfect in their own right. That was a real challenge. But it was the only way to dissolve it completely.

[enfoldedblue]

Hi,

I definitely agree with the OP. Though I understand how difficult it can be to grasp this perspective. What has been said here represents a choice between dualistic type thingking and oneness type thingking. In duality we have 'us and them'. We have parts that we reject.

In oneness there is no 'other/them' there is just US.

The only way to heal the whole is to recognize EVERYTHING as a part of the whole.

Evil arrises from lack of love. When you research the people who are commiting horrificly evil acts on the planet the one commonality is that they are raised with a lack of real love. Members of the illumnati etc are victims of their own games in sense. The don't just create suffering for the masses they also subject their children to horrific ritual abuse (just as their own parents did).

WE as a whole are sick and the illuminati (or whatever) are the mannifestation of this sickness. Punishing, torturing, bannishing, etc is just more of the same old energy that got us where we are today.

Only by loving and healing the whole (which obviously includes EVERYONE) will we be able to stop the viscious cycle of abuse.

P.S. To the people who are able to commit horrific acts love is like kryptonite to super-man. It is their only weekness. They will never be beat by force...they are masters of that domain. They have errected huge walls within stop them from feeling love. If they ever did feel true love they would fall to their knees and cry as, feeling love would wake up their heart, and require them to actually FEEL what they have done to others.

So yes I say let's HEAL.....let's send love to everypart of the whole...they can only resist the power of love for so long, and the more love is directed their way the quicker we will heal.

Thanks

[Mozart]

Yes, ultimately, love is the solution when it comes to these lying, scheming and pedophilia-prone bastards.


Would you react with love and embrace the bastards if they ripped your child from you and tried to rape/kill your child right in front of you? Would you just allow that kind of **** to happen in your life? Hell, no. The vast majority of people would react with strength that they did not know that they had to protect their child. That power is also love.


Love is not just sending those bastards love/light energy; it not just accepting their roles that they play in tricking you into awakening by causing you to react to the sheer depravity of evil that the perpetuate in the world; it's not just being a pacifist to the point of allowing the bastards to exist and function in this world and to dominate our lives ... a domination that includes the kidnapping and molesting hundreds of thousands of children in the world every year, if not millions. Based on detailed information out there, the number of children who have been sexually molested by these dark bastards is in the millions.


Love is also firmly and strongly stopping those bastards in their tracks and stopping them from fvcking with our children. It's bad enough when the bastards do what they do to destroy our world -- but it's beyond the pale of what they do to our children. I would not hesitate to kill any of those bastards on the spot to protect our kids. Eff 'em! I do not want those dark bastards effing with us anymore!


Enough is enough. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! NO MORE!


So if it takes stomping one's boot on their throats and stabbing them in their hearts with pitchforks to stop them, then that's what it takes, and by God, we'd better have the courage to do that ... and that's what the damn mass arrests are all about. Stopping those bastards once and for all.


Will we do that? I dunno? Would you?


~Mozart

[spiritwind]

My motto is walk softly but carry a sharp stick. Yes I pray for those who oppress others, knowing this is but a grand drama we have all chosen to be a part of and I believe is soon coming to an end, but if they were at my doorstep I would make every effort to stop them from coming in the door to harm my family.

[danceblackcatdance]

totally get the sentiment but at the same time there are enough people out there that love those evil wolves already... if its about not poisoning oneself with hatred, i can do that just don't feel like actually giving them love ...

[IndigoStar]

Posted by danceblackcatdance (here)
totally get the sentiment but at the same time there are enough people out there that love those evil wolves already... if its about not poisoning oneself with hatred, i can do that just don't feel like actually giving them love ...

The love I am describing is very different from the egoic kind of love that their worshippers give them. It is a love that comes from beyond physical form. It is a love that has no identification with the self-created image of reality. It is the energy that is all that is. It is impossible to understand what I am talking about from a mental or logistic angle. It can only be felt.

The key to sending them love is to realise that you and them are one and the same. Let me try and explain in a different way.

Imagine the universal energy is a big ball (for the sake of simplicity) of light. It can create form in any way it pleases. It moves outward from its centre and on the outer edge of the ball it makes an earth. Then it pushes some bits of the light through that and makes trees and then pushes bits of light through and creates the forms that are people. It does all this to experience different things. The little bits of form all have their own egoic minds. That part of them thinks that they are disconnected from the others because it can't physically see the light that goes down into the ball beyond the physical form.

Wow its hard to put this concept into words!

Ok let me try a different way!

You know those kaleidoscopes you look through when you are a kid and its made up of different bits? It's a bit like that. It's like we are all different bits and we're divided up into smaller and smaller pieces. That's why the macrocosm always reflects microcosm. Because it's all the same. It's like we are different pieces of the same thing. Each person is the centre of their own world and has their perspective but if you were to go inside someone else's body you would see the same world but from a different central perspective.

Oh, maybe I can explain like this...there is one big monster with lots of arms and legs and eyes everywhere on it. You live inside one of the eyes and you can see all the other arms and legs and body parts of the monster. But you think that every other eye belongs to a different being. And some of those eyes are what you might like to call idiots. So let's say you are an aggressive person and you want to show that eye what an idiot it is. So you stab the leg where it sits. You can't feel that pain physically due to the make up of this monster. (It can only feel pain within each limb that is hurt) but it destroys your dna too because you are the creature you stabbed. If you could view the monster from a higher perspective you would see the whole being and realise that all the eyes belong to the same creature and then you wouldn't harm it because you'd realise you'd harm yourself.

That is kind of a crude description. I'm trying to simplify the concept but it's so hard to put it into words. I'm sure there are more eloquent people here that can do a better job...help me out?
For me this realisation is vital if mankind is to evolve past our current state of consciousness which is like a cancer on the earth, killing each other and killing ourselves.

But danceblackcatdance - if you do what I describe for the reason of not poisoning yourself, it's a start!

[IndigoStar]

Posted by pugwash84 (here)
That may be why, when I sit down moaping when I'm ill I feel worse. I think this may count when holding grudges aswell, or not forgiving yourself aswell as forgiving others.

Yes that is right. It's also because when you mope you are identified with the egoic mind and you are reliving the past and contemplating the future. When you give all your attention to the now it is impossible to feel bad. Teachings from Eckhart Tolle - the power of now.

[IndigoStar]

Posted by SKAWF (here)
okay, so let me put this to you....

lets say we are a small collective of about 50 people.
men women and children.
everything is good. we are free, we work together,
we look after each other though the good times and bad, and we have a strong bond.

then one day, man comes along claiming to be spiritual, so we take him in.

he then begins to divide us,
he lies to us,
he abuses our children,
he murders anyone that opposes or threatens his control,
and our collective is bathed in misery.

what would you do?

let him carry on?
do nothing?
not even reject him?

as i say, i know that carrying out acts of violence harm me long term (harming my DNA as you put it)
but i would still be inclined to crack him around the back of the neck with a big stick.

i would take the risk of harming myself through acts commited upon him,
but that would be nothing to the price we would all pay if no one did anything.

so you just sit there while he destroys our lives, and i'll take care of the problem.

i really think you should delve deeply into finding out what these monsters actually do to people.
talk to some who have been abused, or relatives whose family were murdered.
have a look into the spanish inquisition, and the looting of treasures from south america.
the catholic church have been at it for centuries.

crikey, i'm a bit wound up!

i dont hate them though.
i dont hate the germs on my kitchen work surface either,
i still get rid of them though.
because it falls upon me, if i knowingly expose those in my care to things that harm them.

and with that, i'm going to have a cup of tea.

ciao

i will add, that i saw a tear roll down the face of a man in his 50's, because of what the church did to him. i will never forget that.

Firstly as a group we would each have to take personal responsibility for taking in this fraud. We all accepted and believed him so we are to blame for the mess that we created by doing so. That is the first step to changing the situation. Not tell ourselves we were dumb, not tell ourselves we should feel bad for being stupid and believing him. Telling ourselves that we did the best we knew at that time and our intention was good and we are glad this happened because it taught us a valuable lesson and in future if it happens again we'll be much wiser.

Then we stop focusing on all this man did in the past. We all focus our intention on the present moment. In that instant our consciousness will begin to shift. We will no longer be thinking about the hurt this man caused because it was all done in the past. The thoughts that we create at any given moment are like radio signals. They send out an energetic vibration that creates the future. So if we continue to focus on the horrid things he did (and intensify that by feeling anger along with the thoughts) we will create more of the same. The universe doens't have a concept of positive/negative, it just manifests whatever signal you send it. The only way to change the future situation is to change the now. So when we focus on the present moment it is impossible to focus on that bad stuff. We start to hear the birds that we thought had stopped singing because of his horrific ways. We start to see the colours around us that seemed to have become dull and grey. The world starts to come alive again. That man that lied starts to feel the energy emanating from our group. He doesn't like it because it's so different from his own energy. In fact it starts to make him feel a bit sick. It's taking away his identity. He no longer has power over us to make us feel negativity. He is no longer able to feed off us. He starts to shrink away, withering, aging and very soon he dies.

The reason you felt wound up when you were writing the post was because my concepts have challenged your egoic mind. That is the part of you that identifies who you are (it isn't really you but it's in control). The egoic mind doesn't like to be challenged because it fears losing power. You may start to feel annoyed again when you read this. As you do, observe the part of you that is annoyed. If you can do that you'll will find your true self. The observer.

I hope you enjoyed your cup of tea!

With regard to the man that cried....we can't change the past. We can only move on. We can only change the future so that it doesn't happen to others. I propose we stop focusing on the hurt of the past and shift our awareness to the present in order to change the future.

Ps. If anyone has read the works of Eckhart Tolle you will realise that I am referring to his teachings a lot.

[IndigoStar]

Posted by gypsybutterflykiss (here)

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
Regarding my feelings about the Vatican, Politicians and Illuminati: Icky, yucky and pooey!

Yea, I just can't send the Vatican, politicians and the illuminuti and all it's ickiness love. It's kind of the same way as dealing with a sociopath, in my opinion.. It just sucks you dry of energy. Hats off to all you though that can actually do that.

It's one thing to forgive, I can do that, but embrace with love, I just can't.. Sorry

Yes it would suck you dry of energy if the love came from the ego. This kind of love can only come from the place of oneness which is beyond the veil. If you haven't experienced it you won't be able to understand it on an intellectual level because it can't be intellectualized.

Forgiveness is a good start but there is no need to apologize. You haven't done anything 'wrong.' But consider that good and bad don't exist. Every situation that we encounter is purely for development on a soul level. So we incarnate with different roles, some choose to play a goody, some play a baddy and we make complicated situations and the game is to figure out how to make things harmonious again. Every 'baddy' that you meet is there to teach you a lesson. So when you meet a person that seems out of balance (I'll explain that in a minute) ask yourself what you are learning from this situation. Once you realise that, very often the 'baddy' goes away because he no longer has a purpose in your life.

Balance: We are all beautifully, centred, loving beings. We are all born that way. You only have to look into the eyes of a baby to see its innocence and purity. What happens to us as we get older affects our inner balance. This starts at birth. Some children are born into bright, hospital lights, having their limbs yanked by nurses and drops put into their eyes. Immediately they get a tiny, bit unbalanced. Something doesn't feel right to them. Their centre point gets pushed out of line, just a tiny bit. Then more and more things happen to them in their life and their view of reality becomes obscured. They can't see how things really are anymore. They've forgotten. They can't feel the purity and love they felt as a child. It has turned into more negative emotions.

If this unbalanced person did a lot of meditation, spent time in nature, eat pure foods, did yoga etc etc they would once again start to return to their original energy and re-balance.

If this unbalanced person (who has already done 'bad' because they are lost) experienced lots of people hating them, telling them they are evil, with their obscured view of life they would get futher and further away from their centre and start to do 'evil' things because that's all they would know and understand.

So the question is, do we want to push these people further from their centre of balance and make them into bigger monsters, or can we recognise how sad it is that they have forgotten their true nature? That they are no longer able to feel love. How awful it must be to be inside their bodies and minds and feel that obscurity, feel that pain that they are inevitably carrying around. And not know how to get out of that situation. They have trapped themselves. To us it's obvious what they must do - just start being kind, but when you are so far from your centre, your view of reality so obscured, it is impossible to see clearly. They are unable to discern as we are. It's very sad.
They can only return to their centr