FUKUSHIMA - Gen. Bert Stubblebine's Personal Estimate of the Situation - IMPORTANT

[RMorgan]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Some think that sinking Japan might make it worse. I don't know. I just dont really know what type of technology is available to do a good job of it. If we leave it to fate, another earthquake and tsunami could it be any worse? Is there any possibility that being proactive might save us?

Its hard to say what the PTB will do once they realize imminent danger.

How much is the airfare to Brazil these days?

Hey Arrowwind,

If Cayce is correct, a huge, I mean HUGE, earthquake could indeed swallow Japan, but the radiation would still be a problem, since there can´t be any life on Earth if the oceans are dead.

Radiation is a very serious problem. We should have learned our lesson back then with Chernobyl. Now, maybe it´s too late.

However, Cayce was right many times, but was wrong many times as well.

Well, the airfare to Brazil is not expensive at all these days.

By the way, I believe Brazil would be a perfect refuge in case some very serious nuclear accident happens, specially the central part of Brazil.

We´re above a single tectonic plate, so we don´t have quakes. We don´t have hurricanes or volcanoes as well. We also have all necessary natural resources to supply ourselves with anything. Land here is still relatively very cheap and you can buy a big piece of paradise, with an already built house and structure, for less then U$80.000,00.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Hervé]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Egar Cayce said the following:

Portions of the New York, or New York City itself, will disappear as well as the
southern portions of Carolina, ... The greater portion of Japan must go into the
sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in thetwinkling of an eye.

I wonder why he chose the word MUST. Could a calculated sinking of Japan bury this mess deep enough to save our planet, our people, our culture?

There is currently a tectonic incompatibility for Japan to sink: see this post.

Accordingly the "MUST" would fit my assumption that what Edgar Cayce was referring to was the tsunami.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Some think that sinking Japan might make it worse. I don't know. I just dont really know what type of technology is available to do a good job of it. If we leave it to fate, another earthquake and tsunami could it be any worse? Is there any possibility that being proactive might save us?

Its hard to say what the PTB will do once they realize imminent danger.

How much is the airfare to Brazil these days?

Hey Arrowwind,

If Cayce is correct, a huge, I mean HUGE, earthquake could indeed swallow Japan, but the radiation would still be a problem, since there can´t be any life on Earth if the oceans are dead.

Radiation is a very serious problem. We should have learned our lesson back then with Chernobyl. Now, maybe it´s too late.

However, Cayce was right many times, but was wrong many times as well.

Well, the airfare to Brazil is not expensive at all these days.

By the way, I believe Brazil would be a perfect refuge in case some very serious nuclear accident happens, specially the central part of Brazil.

We´re above a single tectonic plate, so we don´t have quakes. We don´t have hurricanes or volcanoes as well. We also have all necessary natural resources to supply ourselves with anything. Land here is still relatively very cheap and you can buy a big piece of paradise, with an already built house and structure, for less then U$80.000,00.

Cheers,

Raf.

OH! I hadn't noticed that you are in Brazil.
I doubt my husband would be into fleeing... we have met most of our life goals
and we are in the middle of builing a house right now. Difficutl to sell at this point.
but I think that if we went and had a place the children might follow.
My primary concern is perpetuating our family.

I was just thinking that if the PTB get too freaked they might sink the island.
It could be foolery but they may consider it a calculated risk. Certainly a regular
earthquake or tusanmi might be considered of much more risk... trying to look at it
through the perspective of military and scientists.

I will remember to contact you if fleeing should become necessary.
the prices sure sound right. We like to do sustainable gardening
and im sure the weather is a dam site better than our zone 3
and that in and of itself is quite attractive.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Egar Cayce said the following:

Portions of the New York, or New York City itself, will disappear as well as the
southern portions of Carolina, ... The greater portion of Japan must go into the
sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in thetwinkling of an eye.

I wonder why he chose the word MUST. Could a calculated sinking of Japan bury this mess deep enough to save our planet, our people, our culture?

There is currently a tectonic incompatibility for Japan to sink: see this post.

Accordingly the "MUST" would fit my assumption that what Edgar Cayce was referring to was the tsunami.

Hmm, I read that thread you offered. Will have to chew on it.

[Siberia9]

Man you guys sure can put up massive amounts of information on a subject, I wish I had the time to read it all. Well here is some more sand for the heap, Alex Jones just put up something unsettling. If this info is correct that is, then the situation is even worse than I realized. Kurt Nimo wrote it and he usually gets about right so...
http://www.infowars.com/cesium-in-fu...acuation-zone/

[Hervé]

Thanks Siberia9.

I wish there was an easy way to trace where the cesium134/137 is coming from...

Here is the reported content of chemtrails as another source of contamination:

From: Stop Spraying California!

Toxic Chemicals & Metals in Chemtrails Aluminum Oxide Particles Arsenic Bacilli and Molds Barium Salts Barium Titanates Cadmium Calcium Chromium Desiccated Human Red Blood Cells Ethylene Dibromide Enterobacter Cloacal Enterobacteriaceae Human White Blood Cells-A Lead Lithium Salts and Chemtrails Mercury Methyl Aluminum Mold Spores Mycoplasma Nano-Aluminum-Coated Fiberglass Nitrogen Trifluoride Nickel Polymer Fibers Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Pseudomonas Florescens Radio Active Cesium Radio Active Thorium Selenium Serratia Marcscens Sharp Titanium Shards Silver Streptomyces Stronthium Sub-Micron Particles Sulfer Dioxide Unidentified Bacteria Uranium Yellow Fungal Mycotoxins

[Siberia9]

Holy crap I didnt even know about that one. Well, sure why not, its hard to kill people, it takes a lot when you use this type of slow process. Geez man,,, we have to get a handle on this or we are all dead.

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Thanks Siberia9.

I wish there was an easy way to trace where the cesium134/137 is coming from...

Here is the reported content of chemtrails as another source of contamination:

From: Stop Spraying California!

Toxic Chemicals & Metals in Chemtrails Aluminum Oxide Particles Arsenic Bacilli and Molds Barium Salts Barium Titanates Cadmium Calcium Chromium Desiccated Human Red Blood Cells Ethylene Dibromide Enterobacter Cloacal Enterobacteriaceae Human White Blood Cells-A Lead Lithium Salts and Chemtrails Mercury Methyl Aluminum Mold Spores Mycoplasma Nano-Aluminum-Coated Fiberglass Nitrogen Trifluoride Nickel Polymer Fibers Pseudomonas Aeruginosa Pseudomonas Florescens Radio Active Cesium Radio Active Thorium Selenium Serratia Marcscens Sharp Titanium Shards Silver Streptomyces Stronthium Sub-Micron Particles Sulfer Dioxide Unidentified Bacteria Uranium Yellow Fungal Mycotoxins

[GoodETxSG]

Lots of talk and speculation here people... VERY good info with some VERY smart people, pieces of the puzzle scrambled here and there…

I got this idea on another thread where someone made light of the tragedy. Is anyone serious about doing some extremely high level research to prove to ourselves what is really happening?

I wish we could get a daisy chain of people who have the knowhow to release equipped weather balloons from Japan to all of the Pacific Islands in the path of the Gulf stream at varying altitudes with the instrumentation to measure the types of radiation and their levels and build a grid/map that is civilian lead and data spread to get some truth, Across the pacific, past Hawaii, all the way up and down the west coast depending where the stream oscillates from Cali to Oregon all the way through the Mid West...

Then post REAL data online with some graphics, then cross reference some reported health effects that could be related to exposure to varying levels and types of each of the types of radiation. I have access to a STATE of the art LAB, the kind Gov work can be done in. My friend that owns it is a freaky genius with 5 degrees who owns a HUGE State of the art metallurgical engineering lab with all kinds of mass spectrometers and the newest SEM's and other cool stuff. We have made offers to test slag and other possible unknown items that people have claimed are non terrestrial.

They always seem to go to the labs with large Gov. Ties and funding... thus skewing the data, and in some cases their data disappears or is substituted... Anyway. If we could organize such a venture we have the technology to analyze every aspect... My friend’s Tech can ID isotopes and tell where it was refined etc. Also obtain some core soil and plant samples from some high ground to test.

If that was something someone could help organize and help fund, it would be an interesting way to display the validity of the info coming from the world scientists who claim there is nothing to worry about. So, is anyone game for such a project?

Let me know via my Private Email or Skype posted on my profile. We can make it happen if we can organize it, If we could get some Universities or amateur astronomers and weather people to assist for some kind of school credit or prestige by having their name on the research it would be a possible good way to get the infrastructure going.

Ping me and let me know,
CoreyG/Texas

[MacStar]

Just in case anyone hasn't listened to this yet from Red Ice Radio:
(Kinda mixed bag but resonates with me personally)

Synopsis:
"Clif High - Hour 1 - The "Mass Arrests" Claim, Fulford & The White Dragon Society
May 10, 2012
Clif High, along with his associate George Ure, developed the Web Bot, or the Web Bot Project in the late 1990s. It's an Internet bot software program or a web spider that originally was designed to predict stock market trends. Eventually it developed into something different. Now it's claimed to be able to predict future events by tracking keywords on the web. In the first hour of the program Clif gives his take on a story of coming "mass arrests" being told about by author and speaker David Wilcock and whistleblower and alleged insider "Drake." They say that top military brass in the Pentagon have secret plans to arrest people in high places. This means corrupt politicians, bankers and those who have subjected people to financial tyranny. Connected to this story is also Benjamin Fulford, a former writer with Forbes magazine. From Japan, he's been reporting and writing about the Yakuza and the "White Dragon Society" and their supposed opposition to the western royal families and the Illuminati. Tied into this is also material about how the severity of the Fukushima nuclear disaster is being downplayed. Listen to this program to hear Clif High's opinion on these things and much more.

Listen here:
http://rediceradio.net/radio/2012/RI...-chigh-hr1.mp3

[wynderer]

'The draconian body-DNA function needs radiation to sustain consciousness like humans need air to breathe. '

'The various produced beings, through hybrid bodies, are altered outside the womb during the embryonic stage for other things as well, such as functioning in a different kind of environment, and they have higher tolerance for radiation as well. The radiation itself is not poison to some ET races at all. '(EL-This was shared with me BEFORE the Japanese nuclear incident on 3/11/011 at Fukishima)

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/mil...ilab/#more-534

[GoodETxSG]

lizards again? A lil off topic... but okay... Back to Science and all the brilliant info that is coming in from all of the great minds in this forum and their research... It is reaping hell on us, that is for sure. I would be very interested to get a scientific study together like the one discussed above to chart the exact trace amounts in the air, soil and plant life along the Gulf Stream.

[UnrealDreams]

The Obama administration is complicit in the radiating of America. The latest from Natural News:
http://www.naturalnews.com/035847_pl...radiation.html


Plume-gate: Secret documents prove global cover-up of continued Fukushima radiation pollution

(NaturalNews) A Freedom of Information Act(FOIA) request filed by Friends of the Earth (FoE), Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), and the Nuclear Information and Resource Center (NIRS) has unearthed a shocking series of new evidence proving a deliberate, global cover-up of the true severity of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster. And the unfortunate reality is that the mainstream media continues to blatantly ignore this colossal scandal.


Private emails, meeting transcripts and other key documents reveal that both the Obama White House and the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission(NRC) were well aware of just how bad things really were with Fukushima from the early days of the disaster, but did nothing to warn the public about it.

In fact, NRC and the White House purposely did not warn Americans about a massive radiation plume that struck the West Coast just days after the massive earthquake and tsunami hit Japan's eastern coast.

According to information gathered from hundreds of pages worth of private NRC emails, conference calls and secret meetings, key players in the Fukushima whitewashing campaign, including the NRC's David McIntyre and Elliot Brenner, were hard at work in the days following the disaster distracting public attention away from it. By pretending that a radioactive plume did not exist while simultaneously sending out misinformation to the media, these two, in conjunction with White House officials, actively participated in a criminal cover-up of the truth.

You can read key portions of these criminal dealings at the following link:
http://theintelhub.com


A situation that is now being dubbed "Plume-gate," this massive cover-up of critical information about Fukushima could have saved thousands of lives, including the more than 14,000 individuals, many of whom were babies, that died in the weeks following the disaster. http://www.naturalnews.com/034586_Fu...atalities.html

And yet to this very day, the federal government's cozy relationship with the nuclear industry has allowed the injustice to continue, as no proper investigation into this dastardly crime has yet taken place.

"The executive branch and multiple federal agencies, agencies tasked with keeping the American public safe, did their best to hide and to cover-up information about a deadly radioactive plume and ensuing fallout that was headed for the West Coast of the United States from Japan," writes Tony Muga from The Intel Hub about the situation.

Not only did these government agencies hide the truth and deliberately deceive the public, they also used other events, including the infamous Qur'an burning in Afghanistan, as a distraction to divert public attention away from Fukushima, and away from the 104 nuclear reactors in the U.S. that are of a similar age and vulnerability as Fukushima.

So why is the federal government getting away with all this? It is for the same reason that it gets away with most of its other crimes against humanity: corporate fascism. And sadly, corporate fascism is a bipartisan problem, as both Republicans and Democrats today are slaves to it, representing opposite but identical sides of the same coin.

"It seems that the fundamental problem with what Americans are experiencing is not just radioactive fallout but Fascism, the merging of the corporate and the state," adds Muga. "In a fascist state, there is little or no responsible action from the corporations for there is little or no promotion of accountability from the state. The corporations, for all intents and purposes, control the state."

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035847_pl...#ixzz1v7TF51Fz

Thanks to Macstar for linking the previous narturalnews links..

[wynderer]

Eve Lorgen, the interviewer of Maarit here -- some other info from these 2 women gave the title & start to Houman's Horus-Ra Archon thread, recently approved via thread post by your leader Bill Ryan

dot connector --why Bush & Obama & top scientists & other world 'leaders' w/children & grandchildren are complicit in making Earth into a highly radioactive, toxic, barren sterile planet, devoid of any biological life

Posted by wynderer (here)
'The draconian body-DNA function needs radiation to sustain consciousness like humans need air to breathe. '

'The various produced beings, through hybrid bodies, are altered outside the womb during the embryonic stage for other things as well, such as functioning in a different kind of environment, and they have higher tolerance for radiation as well. The radiation itself is not poison to some ET races at all. '(EL-This was shared with me BEFORE the Japanese nuclear incident on 3/11/011 at Fukishima)

http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/mil...ilab/#more-534

[GoodETxSG]

Soooo no then, Lizards are the root of all issues and is on topic on any thread... got it.

[wynderer]

the only hope for the survival of all that is good about Earth Humans, imo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uXZistami3c

[MacStar]

Hmm anyone heard of Lauren Moret?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zZzw7PNsn_Q

"Published on May 15, 2012 by ExopoliticsTV

Leuren Moret: Fukushima-depopulation update; exposes Gen. Albert Stubblebine; offers solutions

In this exclusive wide-ranging May 15, 2012 interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre, independent scientist Leuren Moret, MA, PhD (ABD), updates the viewing audiences on the status of the ongoing Fukushima radiation-depopulation rollout, stating that "Fukushima radiation has taken over our planet." Leuren Moret also exposes inaccuracies in a recent Fukushima "Estimate of the Situation" video by former Gen. Albert S. Stubblebine (U.S. Army, Ret.). Stubblebine has publicly denied his involvement in a secret 1968 - 73 DARPA time travel and teleportation program despite direct eye witness whistleblower testimony to the contrary by Washington State attorney Andrew D. Basiago. Leuren Moret also offers solutions on how humanity can adapt positively to the challenges of this Fukushima radiation false flag depopulation plan, instigated by an international war crimes racketeering organization led by the Dutch and British Monarchs and City of London bloodline families including the Rothschilds.

For updates on Fukushima radiation, see:

EcologyNews: www.ecologynews.com"

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and also this from FreedomlinkRadio:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_vLRYtdt4

Links from the Youtube page as listed there:
http://www.oriontalkradio.com
http://www.fukushimafacts.com
http://www.federaljack.com
http://www.theintelhub.com

I have only just spotted these and haven't watched them yet as it's late here,so please post back.
I will endeavour to watch these when I can.
Just putting more chips on the table as I'm also doing on another Forum unrelated to what we do here, but in the off topic section as I believe it is well worth discussing considering the many viewpoints and the lack of MSM coverage.
I have posted all I have been able to find plus the info gathered here and there are a lot of people who are really finding this hard to believe.

All in all I feel that there is an Op going on and we are quite possibly in a lot of **** worldwide.

Getting substantial evidence that #4 is as unstable as we think and reliable,accurate readings of Cesium 134-137 etc are what the folks are wanting to know.

Most there think I'm a Conspiracy Nut LOL, but hey....you get used to it

I have turned a 100% skeptic on that Forum to questioning Chemtrails,Fluoride and now this.

Tis hard work and I won't give in because of the many attacks,name calling and demand for Scientific Proof.

It's all information....it's how far you take it that reveals the nooks and crannies.

Some days I think of the blue pill scenario and it looks appealing...for a moment LOL.

Must be my Sagittarius/Ophiuchus nature,possibly my rare blood type and of course my beautiful Partner and 2 Year old Daughter that keeps me going

I dunno about anyone else here, but I Love this place we call home and everybody who has the birthright to live free from fear.

Big Pharma has tried to screw me over,and I'm battling that too atm....sometimes I wonder how I can feel so hopeless, yet keep going.

I'm blessed my Partner chose to stick by me on this ride.If it wasn't for Her,I doubt anyone here would be reading this.

Sorry for the rant..it gets lonely searching for the truth at this hour of the night and I feel like I'm talking to someone.

It helps

Anyhoo as we say in Aus, stiff **** and on with the show...I'm off to bed.

Keep the info rollin in.

No probs UnrealDreams,thanks for the thanks

EDIT:One more link to maybe check:
https://youtube.com/blogs/id/S6Gax5gwhz8

EDIT AGAIN:
Anyone watched this?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ItPra2Y0M7Q

I take it this is the cut down version.

This I take it is the full version:
http://youtu.be/8Z5J1eVCt_w

Night.

Night.

[UnrealDreams]

Posted by Rozzy (here)
Wilhelm Reich believed that he could neutralize atomic radiation thereby rendering much of the impact of a nuclear bomb of non effect, he coincidentally died just before his release from prison. TPTB had him incarcerated on an obscure labeling law.

Reich was in the Arizona desert on a greening mission with his "cloudbuster" when he came under attack from non-benevolent ET's. The same ET's he has blamed for causing deserts on Earth with their "poisonous Orgone". Here is what transpired when the ET's attacked from his book "contact with space":

"A tremendous black cloud looking like smoke from a huge fire" covered Tuscon. Reich had readings of 100,000 counts per minute on his geiger counter.

Reich countered this with Radium infused with Orgone used in combination with his cloudbuster. He began firing away at the cloud with this combination and within 20 minutes the cloud had dissipated and his geiger count returned to normal.

[Raven]

this is the latest interview of Arnie Gunderson by Dr. Helen Caldicott - found the link at fukushima-diary.com - post is dated May 19th

http://www.radio4all.net/files/jazzw...P_20120508.mp3

[Rocky_Shorz]

more people have gotten sick and passed since Fukushima then any other time I can remember, there is no question it is affecting health...

tumors growing to 5 inches in under a month...

I would like info, we have sensors on ships in the area that could be giving details of how bad it is...

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
more people have gotten sick and passed since Fukushima then any other time I can remember, there is no question it is affecting health...

tumors growing to 5 inches in under a month...

I would like info, we have sensors on ships in the area that could be giving details of how bad it is...

Wot do you think would happen if we have an economic collapse

and the electric grid produces zero electricity? Wot will happen to

the fuel pools when the water pumps stop worldover? I think they

go off like popcorn. And thats it................period. Same with an EMP.


All is well


Jorr 2.0