Jesus the man / JESUS the Archon – inspired by Houman’s Horus-Ra thread

[Lettherebelight]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
This thread has turned into crap. And all of us have shown how religion creates war, micro here -- macro in the world of lies and lies no one has the truth, there is no truth, only the universe, nature and the ( is ) humans have left themselves out of the equation by to much thinking and no breaks to stop it with. And so nature and the universe will continue to walk away from our noise. Bla bla bla bla bla.

Way do we have to cross over each others back yard fence anyway simply stay in your own back yard, and put your noses back in your pants were they belong. I’m sorry but you people love to here yourselves talk when no ones listening to you any way or will it change the color of your skin. Or mine. I still wipe my but the same way I learn years ago, and dammed if I’ll let anyone show me how to do it any different-- it’s my but and personal, wipe your own. Or shoot me in the next war your starting at the moment.

Who ever lays the sword down will live, it would be a better world if we were all deaf mutes at this point, instead of intellectual idiots over meaningless words of what end you crack a stupid boiled egg from, methinks.

We are all looking like a bunch of ring ling circus clowns going on like this for thousands of years bla bla bla then it turns into shoot shoot die you infidel die. And if no one reads this --- its no different than a tree falling in the woods and no witness to it's fall anyway. And no one gets upset.

6 pages of pointlessness and growing still. Some one has to stop going after the pointless last word for war’s to end and to get back to breaking bread together.

Is anyone here still awake or have we all gone made, and fallen back into our old ways of blindness? rolling eye's and backing away, lets all have a nice day anyway> John XXX

Couldn't agree with you more, friend, dissing of beliefs without full understanding, pretty pointless.

This is the UFO and extraterrestrial sub forum, not my belief is right and you're wrong section...

[9eagle9]

Then you and wheat are missing the entire point of the thread . Beliefs are what get people into the situation that mankind has gotten into.

You're not happy with the state of the world. Examine your beliefs. Because half this thread is talking about evidence and the others about they think they believe in.

Beliefs that cause so much bloodshed and hatred are not going to be respected by living human compassionate beings. You don't like your gonna bite it. NMP.

You want to get out of the matrix quit babysitting those who build it. Pick up a brick and build it or tear it down but don't think that which has contributed to the essential separation between God and man is going to venerated out some ****ed up since of new age social conditioning. If people's beliefs fail them so badly and can't hold water maybe its the faulty belief that betrays them and not those noticing how their beliefs fail them.

Christianity has not existed in 1, 940 years. Biblanity has. There are those who can tell the difference and those who cannot.

[Houman]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Beliefs are what get people into the situation that mankind has gotten into.

Yep... discussing beliefs leads nowhere but discussing "why people believe what they believe" (i.e. the "engineering" of some of these belief systems) could lead somewhere... I will leave that for another time...

[Chester]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by kreagle (here)
and by no means is "this",.......inspired by Houman's Horus-Ra thread!!!

I must agree with this, the problem with this thread lies in the fact that its title sounds like a conclusion...

My improper thread title - regarding Houman’s comment that the title implied a conclusion - It was not my intent (though perhaps Houman revealed a subconscious possibility which I have taken to heart) –

I feel I need to state my actual intentions for this thread.

I have no attachment to any idea regarding Jesus other than I am not at all open to the possibility that I could be the reincarnation of jesus. I believe this is a healthy way of viewing my current status in relation to the massive messiah complex that I have experienced since I was a child and which I now view as possibly the result of both archontic influences and something within my personality that is open to such a complex.

The purpose of my thread title was to excite an exploration of who Jesus may really have been hoping that the Avalon community would weigh in with sound minded considerations as opposed to hopes and fantasies derived from a fear of death.

What I wished to avoid but predicted to 9eagle9 would happen is that the more zealous, fundamentalists would start pounding the thread with scripture quotes and “testimony” and that it would be difficult to keep the thread from degrading in that direction knowing it would split the thread into two camps, descend into childishness and the thread's intention would be lost. Stupidly, what I also did (which I now see as feeding the wild animals) was to engage these types of posts and thus I threw fuel on the very fire I had hoped to avoid breaking out.

For this reason, I am going to start a NEW thread which I am going to ask that those who wish to use scripture and/or testimony to support their view of Jesus please do so in your own thread.

Thank You in advance for honoring my request.

I will title this thread – An exploration of Jesus, could he have been influenced by extra-dimensionals?

justone

[Chester]

It is clear to me that one of the most favorite tactics of archonic forces is that when someone earnestly investigates deeper truths that challenge the security of religious dogma and ridiculous fanaticism, out of the woodwork come their minions armed with pages of supposed scripture that by their very words shuts down the evil heresies! what a joke - no wonder the illuminati are laughing and have no fear of humanity.

These clowns don't even realize they are being heavily influenced by the very satanic forces from which they think their messiah is saving them.

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
I have to admit that the price of fish got lost somewhere in there...

Justoneman: thank you for bringing up that "sworn-by" subject of synchronicities as the controlling master manipulation!

Here is an excerpt from "Riding the wave" by Laura Knight Jadczyk:

I will say that some of the things you have found are fascinating and I am convinced that there is some purpose and reason, and maybe even your ultimate conclusions are correct - or pretty close... but there are some big gaps in the symbolic appreciation and historical background of same. There are many things to be gone over in a sort of "cold" and analytical way - even including this business of "synchronicity" that we both have experienced in this matter. This "amazing" confluence of "clues and artifacts" tends to convince us that our ideas are correct... but I have found that, often, the matter is much more complicated - like a chess game. Some of these "synchronous" events are like a move on the chess board by these "unknowns" and they are waiting to see if we will see through the ruse... We can either make the mistake of "falling into the trap" of taking the piece "offered" while we are being set up for a swift and stunning mate. NEVER underestimate the cleverness and cunning of the opponent.

Your ideas are framed in much the same terms as the guys who wrote the Holy Grail series and the guy who wrote the Tomb of God... in the sense that all sorts of "synchronous" and "amazing" correspondences were found in response to the various ideas had by all. This should be taken as a warning that it can occur to just about anybody. All of you were convinced that you were "on the right track" because of these things... don't forget that. They, as sincerely as yourself, were convinced of the "rightness" of their "path" and conclusions because of the SAME TYPES OF REMARKABLE SYNCHRONICITIES!!!!

Remember - NEVER FORGET - that the opponent wants us to come to false conclusions... And never forget that he/they are so much more clever and practiced at this deception that we can even imagine. This is NOT a secret of a couple hundred years duration. It is THOUSANDS of years old...

The culprits of such orchestrations... Lizzies.

This one for the pulpit preachers:

But, getting back to the Bible for just a moment: in my reading of years past, I came across several passages that really struck me as curious, considering their "origins." The first is, of course, one that I quote frequently from the Book of Romans in the New Testament. It is generally attributed to Paul, and actually has been computer analyzed and the result of this analysis was that whoever wrote the book of Romans, also wrote the two epistles to the Corinthians as well as the epistle to the Galatians. Internal evidence from these documents indicates that they were written before 70 A.D., probably close to 60 or even 40 A.D. That is to say, they were written BEFORE the Gospels.

These epistles make no allusions to Jesus as a historical figure as depicted in the Gospels. They say absolutely nothing about the parents of Jesus, the virgin birth, a time or place of earthly existence, a trial before the Romans, an execution in Jerusalem, or any of the main characters of the "Jesus story," with the exception of Peter who is referred to as a hypocrite by Paul. If there had been a real incident such as the denial of Jesus by Peter, it is fairly certain that Paul would have brought it up and used it in his "flame war" against "the Rock of the Church." When Paul DOES refer to Jesus' death, he says repeatedly that he was "crucified" or "delivered up" but NEVER that he was killed! And, we know from many ancient sources that to be "crucified" meant an initiatory event rather than being nailed to a wooden cross and dying in a physical sense.

The portion regarding synchronicity - I have concluded that my massive experience of this phenomena and the fact that many of the synchronicities have been the foundation of my personal messiah complex, that two components are to be blamed. The first one must have something to do with my own openness to such a possibility and the other is the opportunity exploited by the archontic forces. Fortunately this candidate held out and discovered the far more likely truth. whew!

[Chester]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
Ritual anointing with sacred oil is documented as fulfilling an important role in the religious ceremonial of Egypt. From Pyramid texts of the early third millenium B.C.E., to Gnostic documents of the Christian era found at Nag Hammadi, anointing can be shown to provide sanctification and give authorization for ascent to the gods and inclusion in their company.
...

perhaps the Egyptians picked up the ritual of anointing from Joseph son of Israel

but i suspect satan is a big copycat of God

it's just that he twists truths

satan is such a good copycat that he actually copies activities that haven't yet occured from "god"

anyways... meeting times for Archonaholics Anonymous will be posted soon in another thread.

The only requirement for membership is a desire to take back your soul.

justone

[Lettherebelight]

There is no doubt that Christianity has been hi-jacked, watered down, twisted etc. This has happened to most (if not all) spiritual disciplines. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't any compassionate, sincere people who connect with the teachings of Jesus. Even people who have been suffered satanic ritual abuse, for example Svali, have found solace and healing in Christianity, and a relationship with Jesus. I agree it is important to recognise the difference in sincerity and hypocrisy (those that talk about compassion, etc but are anything but, or thinking their way of looking at the world is the only way, etc).

One deserves respect, the other needs to be called out. It is imperative to distinguish the two.

There isn't a thinking person in the world who doesn't have some beliefs of their own. Those beliefs may remain steadfast or change throughout life. People will always believe (repose their faith in something) according to their particular nature. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to believe the same thing at all times.

It's not beliefs necessarily that have caused the world's troubles. The world's troubles are caused by the lust for power, desire to control others to suit ourselves; sometimes it hides behind beliefs, sometimes it doesn't, but this is what really separates us from God...unless one doesn't believe in God, which is another type of belief

[Chester]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
This thread has turned into crap. And all of us have shown how religion creates war, micro here -- macro in the world of lies and lies no one has the truth, there is no truth, only the universe, nature and the ( is ) humans have left themselves out of the equation by to much thinking and no breaks to stop it with. And so nature and the universe will continue to walk away from our noise. Bla bla bla bla bla.

Way do we have to cross over each others back yard fence anyway simply stay in your own back yard, and put your noses back in your pants were they belong. I’m sorry but you people love to here yourselves talk when no ones listening to you any way or will it change the color of your skin. Or mine. I still wipe my but the same way I learn years ago, and dammed if I’ll let anyone show me how to do it any different-- it’s my but and personal, wipe your own. Or shoot me in the next war your starting at the moment.

Who ever lays the sword down will live, it would be a better world if we were all deaf mutes at this point, instead of intellectual idiots over meaningless words of what end you crack a stupid boiled egg from, methinks.

We are all looking like a bunch of ring ling circus clowns going on like this for thousands of years bla bla bla then it turns into shoot shoot die you infidel die. And if no one reads this --- its no different than a tree falling in the woods and no witness to it's fall anyway. And no one gets upset.

6 pages of pointlessness and growing still. Some one has to stop going after the pointless last word for war’s to end and to get back to breaking bread together.

Is anyone here still awake or have we all gone made, and fallen back into our old ways of blindness? rolling eye's and backing away, lets all have a nice day anyway> John XXX

I have benefited from this thread. I also am not going to just break bread and avoid engaging folks who are capable of opening their minds and have the capacity to get a clue as to what may be influencing them but prefer to remain in their lala lands.

Wanna know why this is important to me? Because there are folks on this planet who conspire to exploit these "gatekeepers" so that they can continue to twist our world into a direction none of us wish to see. Because my children are having to grow up in this insane asylum. So complain that there's contentious dialogue and miss the points made. Skip over Houman's contributions that happend to shed further light on the matter (at least to this reader).

Skip over the direct comments by 9eagle9.

pass on reading the excellent contributions of Amzer Zo

or maybe look at why perhaps you are uncomfortable and perhaps when you consider the content in Houman's Horus-Ra thread, you might see why this thread can be helpful.

[Chester]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
There is no doubt that Christianity has been hi-jacked, watered down, twisted etc. This has happened to most (if not all) spiritual disciplines. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't any compassionate, sincere people who connect with the teachings of Jesus. Even people who have been suffered satanic ritual abuse, for example Svali, have found solace and healing in Christianity, and a relationship with Jesus. I agree it is important to recognise the difference in sincerity and hypocrisy (those that talk about compassion, etc but are anything but, or thinking their way of looking at the world is the only way, etc). One deserves respect, the other needs to be called out.

There isn't a thinking person in the world who doesn't have some beliefs of their own. Those beliefs may remain steadfast or change throughout life. People will always believe according to their nature.

It's not beliefs necessarily that have caused the world's troubles. The world's troubles are caused by the lust for power, desire to control others to suit ourselves; sometimes it hides behind beliefs, sometimes it doesn't, but this is what really separates us from God.

Going from satanism to fundamentalist christianity is like going from heroin to methadone -

attachments to any belief takes major discernment - I believe my sons love me, my wife loves me... those are pretty safe bets

I believe I will go to heaven for eternity because I have accepted that jesus christ's (supposed) horrific death has removed all my sins ohhh and all I have to do is proclaim jesus christ to be one the one and only son of god. give me a break

Attachment to any religious belief is to ask creation for lessons. Can we, collectively, on this planet continue to keep learning those types of lessons? Its already almost completely locked down folks.

[jorr lundstrom]

Well, as Archons cant be like us even if they would like to, only imitate,

there is another way for them to handle this problem. Being jelous

of humans for humans capabilities, creating beaty, music, poetry,

living in the momment, loving in the moment and so on.

After a couple of thousand years of manipulations of the

perpetrators acting out the archontic forces we are almost

there. Most humans reduced to people with almost no

contact with the body, a lot of technical devices, that only

make them more astray in relation to everything natural.

Gladly paying their life for an artificial existence that only

imitates wot actually living is all about.

Nothing is hijacked along the way in this process, every step

is intended and premeditated. We are almost there, most having forgot

wot life is about. It seems almost impossible to get people who

are totally caught in their programmings to realize that acting out

programs isnt living.





I thank those who havent given in to this stupidity.


All is well


Jorr

[Lettherebelight]

Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

[observer]

I'm a recluse, by nature. I don't socialize well.

This past weekend I was drawn into a series of dinner parties with some old class mates. At each event, the main topic of discussion was, "what is happening on TV".... the score of the big game.... who's winning Dancing With The Stars.... what movies did you see on cable.... all to the point of ad nauseam.

I don't even own a TV. I felt like Debbie-Downer each time I tried to interject something into the conversation that would cause an awakening among this group of old friends.

The world is soooooo hypnotized, and these zombie-brained people, for whom I have a great love, will be the ones fed on by these hyperdimensional archons.

I feel helpless.... like I'm wandering in some desolate landscape.... and, there's nothing I can do to help those souls I love....

I welcome threads like this, where I can come and express the understanding I've come to realize.

[9eagle9]

I wish I had access to information to this when I was younger. All the suffering that could have been avoided not just for myself but for others as well.

I knew there was something wrong but...who the hell did you talk about it with. You would get the same reaction as you do now if not worse .

It is incredulous to me that we , (not them) would allow suffering to continue simply because its not polite to talk about.

[9eagle9]

Psychologocial abuse overcomes any other sort of abuse how, exactly?

Abuse does not overcome abuse, it masks it.

Programming is covert abuse.

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

[Chester]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

and I agree 100% with that and almost posted it, but it is still methadone... now if she could just ween herself off that and get into the mystical components of Christianity, she might begin to reclaim her soul instead of handing it off to a different (albeit in the same camp) caretaker.

[Hervé]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
go to 22:15 and listen to Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, a Finnish physician, explain why Nato's 1964 report on disclosure recommended that there not be disclosure - the # 1 reason is because of what it would do to all the religions - "they would all crumble down"

such is the power of this number 1 vice of humanity

mostly because that came from 1964 - a far greater % of the world's population at that time would have had their world views shattered by such a revelation.

And I agree that the more modern interpretations suggest the god(s) may have been aliens. Houman's thread Horus-Ra suggests the demons are also some of these same aliens.

I am revisiting this because it is widely stated that the illunatics and satanists have been bent on destroying religions yet they would prevent disclosure because that would do it in a blink of an eye... hummmm... wondering why keep disclosure in the deep freeze?

So, for once, it seems they are telling the truth: they are not interested in any disclosure because it would indeed shred all religions to bits... and they are not interested in the results from the latter since they would lose all controls as well as any grip on all these millennia of programming.

Makes sense to me.

Carrying the hypothesis a little bit further... who would be interested in a real disclosure?

That would be the real good guys with the purpose of freeing humanity from these programmings... these very guys that the illunatics would portray as these ETs on the brink of invading us... with that "Blue Beam" thing.

[Houman]

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

This is a very interesting common pattern (John Todd, Svali, Schnoebelen, Winston Pitters and many others share this pattern) this is why this topic deserves close attention (without the emotional charge if possible as it doesn't help and the topic is too important to be based on "belief")

[Chester]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

This is a very interesting common pattern (John Todd, Svali, Schnoebelen, Winston Pitters and many others share this pattern) this is why this topic deserves close attention (without the emotional charge if possible as it doesn't help and the topic is too important to be based on "belief")

its extremely interesting...

from wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Schnoebelen

Rev. William "Bill" James Schnoebelen (born 1949) is an American Messianic Christian apologist, author, teacher and lecturer. He is best known as a strong critic of Mormonism, Freemasonry and Wicca. Once primarily published by Chick Publications, he has authored publications in over 14 countries. He is founder and director of the Christian-based ministry With One Accord Ministries.

William Schnoebelen was born in 1949 and claims to have been raised a Catholic. He released a nine-hour DVD program titled "Interview with an Ex-Vampire: A True Story", hosted by Stephanie Relfe, where he speaks of his claimed involvement in vampirism. He also claims to have been a Satanist for a time before converting to Evangelical Christianity.[1][2] Additionally, Schnoebelen claims[3] to have been made a first degree Wiccan priest in 1968, a Spiritualist minister in the Alliance of Divine Love (1972), a priest in the Alexandrian rite of Wicca (1973), a Druidic High Priest (1973) a Third Degree Alexandrian priest (1973), a priest in the Old Roman Catholic Church (starting his studies for this in 1974-5), a Second Degree member of the Church of Satan (1975), a Master Mason in 1977, a Knight Templar in the York Rite Masonry, a 32nd Degree Mason in the Scottish Rite (1980), a Gnostic Bishop with the Monastery of the Seven Rays (1977-8), a 90th Degree Mason in the Ancient and Primitive Rite of Memphis Misraim Freemasonry, baptized into the LDS church in 1980 and become Elders' Quorum President and Institute of Religion teacher and formally left this church for evangelical Christianity in 1985.

Fascinating - my theory based on my own experiences is that a component of the messianic complex is not a simple "belief" at all - it is a "knowing" based on direct experience - folks like us that have had the actual direct experience of the supernatural try very hard to make sense of it based on everything we know. And that's where the trouble begins because we are clueless about the phenomena and thus create false beliefs based on what we have been exposed to in our lives. Usually its one end of the religious spectrum, either supernatural good or supernatural evil.

I for years thought it was God talking directly to me - then I decided to study about every possible metaphysical, philosophical, religious, mystical thing I could. I spent 10 years doing this. When I studied everything occult I got the same massive synchronicities and the same massive supernatural experiences. I then studied Jung and quantum physics and sought out any human resource I could that could explain the phenomena.

It couldn't be "God" because I always ended up in trouble (meaning if it was God then how could I end up in such trouble??). I never saw visions of angelic beings (only had the one experience where I saw the vertical "reptillian" eyes in people I knew normally had normal eyes). Yet I had developed the ability to generate massive synchronicity experiences that involved (and were acknowledged by) friends and acquaintances. Some people actually got a little afraid of me because I would start talking about synchronicity related to a specific something and they would then go on in their life but would experience the synchronicity and I wasn't even there. I just planted the seed and Bammo - it would happen to them independantly of me.

I told folks synchronicity is the perfect miracle in that it does not have to be attributed to a specific person as in "performing miracles" It could be experienced by a group. I can assure you that there is a component to the phenomena related to enthusiasm and openness to believing in that type of "miracle."

A Doctor Elliot Benjamin wrote several articles in a fairly well known, very mainstream type of e-zine called "Integral World" all about synchronicity.
http://www.integralworld.net/

I began an e-mail relationship with Dr. Benjamin almost 2 years ago and contributed several examples of impossible synchronicities where I supplied artifacts as part of the evidence. he included one particualr synchronicity I experienced in one of his articles which featured the number 23 - oddly just after I had that particular synchronicity, I was told by Peter Moon of skybooksusa who published all the Montauk books and is a friend of mine about Jim Carrey's obsession with the number 23 and that he even made a movie about it as well as named his production company after the number 23. I had no clue of the link of the number 23 when I had my massive 23 synchronicity string.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_enigma

In fact, I shared this story with a lady I am living with just two weeks ago - I swear this is true - the next day she went to the hospital. I received a phone call from her and she said guess what, I just had to take a number... I said what? 23? Yep - ok big deal right? Two days later she went to the hospital again and was given the number 23 again.

Anyways - its that type of thing that has haunted me all my life, has increased over the years and when I focused on one type of religion, I would get massive synchronicities related to that religion. Yet when i would focus on the Kabalah or tarot or Alistair Crowley I would get massive synchronicities.

Thats why I conclude the experience is explainable somehow. I think there may be EDs that manipulate our reality and are able to project thoughts into our heads and able to perhaps be ahead of our experiences as far as time goes so they can create the illusion to their target that the target is receiving some type of special messages (which then of course makes you, the receiver of these messages) a "chosen one" - a special emissary or special messenger see? Remember earlier in Houman's thread here - the Chosen Ones?

I see it as nothing more than winning a lottery you wished you didn't win... Its like you are targeted, but because of the component where the observer affects the reality he is observing, how one deals with this determines the nature of the experience.

If one is in fear, they perceive it is demons or evil aliens or satan. When one may break out of their dark period by somehow contacting folks or a group where they feel safe, their supernatural experiences continue but now take on a positive flavor. Thus they now think WOW! I am saved by God or by Jesus or whatever, and then they simply switch to the new thing with the same zeal they had while under the negative experience never realizing it is they, themselves that are the battery of the whole dynamic and are still giving off all the emotional energy they previously gave ... it is now simply positive where before it was negative.

Its as if the emotional state... when we ramp it up and emote out to the universe... its this universe that eats the emotion regardless of whether it is fear emotion or what we might call positive emotions.

And when we consider that some research I have come upon calls the astral realm the emotion realm, it seems to make strange sense.

Certainly I have to agree positive emotion is far better than negative emotion, but I also put forth this thought. If emotion derived from delusion is created even if it is positive emotion, who or what is actually in control?

Anyways, that's where I am at with it all and my current theory is that EDs are working humanity over and that none of them are any good for us if we are delusional about who/what they are or if we view them as any sort of God or gods or demons or angels or Satan or anything that has any connotation it is any more "powerful" or hierarchically above being (and this means we cannot view any other life as hierarchically below us or we become like the false gods).

ok sorry I went on so long... I hope this post helps.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by Lettherebelight (here)
Not sure what type of Christian she is (fundamental etc), but if it gives her strength to overcome her abuse, then I say go for it, girl.
http://svalispeaks.wordpress.com/cat...ti-in-america/

This is a very interesting common pattern (John Todd, Svali, Schnoebelen, Winston Pitters and many others share this pattern) this is why this topic deserves close attention (without the emotional charge if possible as it doesn't help and the topic is too important to be based on "belief")

what can i say

it is always Jesus who comes through to those who have been victims of demonic oppression

and still you don't get it


but call Jesus virus and methadone

what can i say


i am ashamed