How do you feel about the Vatican, Politicians and Illuminati?

[Earth Angel]

and you IndigoStar are quite amazing!! well done!

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
You are right in everything you say SKAWF. You are a very beautiful, wise soul. Much love and cups of tea to you <3

[SKAWF]

Posted by Earth Angel (here)
and you IndigoStar are quite amazing!! well done!

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
You are right in everything you say SKAWF. You are a very beautiful, wise soul. Much love and cups of tea to you <3

yeah i second that.

[Eram]

This video from BASHAR speaks of the same message indigo is making.

It is all about where we invest our energy in.
When we invest our energy in demonizing the people who are in power, we loose, because we are not in our own power.
When we invest our energy in our own empowerment, we win because we become powerful and free human beings.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5lsfnYm3GbE

Never mind creating fictional scenarios to think about what we should do when someone enters our house with a gun with the intention to shoot our children. 'Should we use violence to protect ourself or not'?
This thread is not about that.

It's about where to focus our energy. How to program our minds. Will we program them with negative fearful emotions, anger, powerless feelings etc, or will we program ourselves to become powerful humans, with feelings of unconditional love, understanding, compassion and truth?

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I redirected the video from this beautiful thread. It felt appropriate here too.

[Camilo]

Posted by IndigoStar (here)

Posted by Camilo (here)

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Posted by Camilo (here)
Why the question?....is there any doubt about it at all for you or any one awake and aware on this planet?

To highlight the emotions that many people are harbouring within themselves, and as a result causing damage to themselves and the whole planet. And also to propose a solution to effectively change this situation.

Nock yourself out.

I think I did already!

PS. The spelling is knock with a silent 'k'

Thanks for the grammar lesson!

[IndigoStar]

Posted by Camilo (here)
Thanks for the grammar lesson!

Anytime!...I'm an English teacher and most of my students say to me "why has nobody ever told me I was saying/spelling that wrong? I've been doing it for years!" I tell them, most people think that would be rude to do correct another person but they always say they wish that somebody had told them...and that's why I correct mistakes for foreigners! Do you think the same way as my students or don't you care about being corrected?

If you ever have any English language questions fire them my way and I'll be more than happy to explain things

[Camilo]

Posted by IndigoStar (here)

Posted by Camilo (here)
Thanks for the grammar lesson!

Anytime!...I'm an English teacher and most of my students say to me "why has nobody ever told me I was saying/spelling that wrong? I've been doing it for years!" I tell them, most people think that would be rude to do correct another person but they always say they wish that somebody had told them...and that's why I correct mistakes for foreigners! Do you think the same way as my students or don't you care about being corrected?

If you ever have any English language questions fire them my way and I'll be more than happy to explain things

I do care about being corrected regarding the use of English, as I myself teach English as a foreign/second language.

[tonius]

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
I propose that we send love to the pope. We send positive thoughts to the illuminati. We thank them all for providing us with this wonderful opportunity to break free from oppression. They have taught us a lot. They have allowed us to grow spiritually from this challenging situation we have found ourselves in. As a result, the universe has expanded.

Gratitude. Love. Compassion. Understanding. Everything is for a reason. It is all perfect the way it is.

Well i guess if you were a child in africa suffering from hunger and diseases you wouldn't be thrilled about these possibilties the illuminati are offering you ? Why, not because you may not know we are all one, but because after many days without food you feel pain, suffering, knowing your oneness wont make it better.And if we are trully one, than every event even if ''illlusion'' in nature, like all this, has its own significance , it depends how you look at it , so i would first try to give something to eat to that child , and after maybe, when we are all ok i might think about thanking any of them.

While i fully understand what you are saying , i have a slightly different opinion. I, like many here i think, day after day become more aware of the fact we are really one, eventhough its not so easy. I always had some difficulties with this, while i deeply felt it was true , still when i looked around , from a practical point of view it seemed confusing. I mean you feeel, know its all a rapresentation of the same ''one'' but still some questions remain unanswered. Maybe because one can really ''get it'', when he/she becomes one again, goes back to the source, until than its just guessing.

What do i mean by guessing ? I don't know why i find the ''love at all cost'' concept so forced, not only here, but wherever there is talk about spirutual matters. I think love should be, or better is, an effect not the cause, is it really called love when you ''do''it , perform it as an action ? Isn't it a kinda of cheating. Should't love be a byproduct, sorry the technical term, and expression of your true understanding , your spiritual understanding at a certain point of its evolution. I mean, wouldn't be it more fair, if at a certain moment,about a certain thing you dont feel love,or maybe feel angry about, try to see it ,explore, understand that expression than rather ''shutting down'' all and trying to ''force'' your love into everything. Its called love with ''interest'', meaning : I know that we are all one, so i have to love everything.

Why not see things as they are, example :
Illuminati . Organisation with not noble intentions, most probably ( for me surely) manuvered by interdeminsional beings (from the knowlegde we have until now), who have traded their fellow humans , souls, for some disgusting, cheap advantage driven by ego,power, ''god coplex''.Now that i know that ,what do i do? I love them, we are all one !?.....Wait a moment, and then, what happens ? You see ,you might as well not love them and it wouldn't matter,they would go on doing what they are doing. And one day , you return back, to source, and there ''happily seated in your comfortable couch'', you review your existence on earth, and ask your self how the f.ck you just stood there , giving ''fake love'' and never thought that maybe some action should have been taken. What do i mean by action : i mean understanding that its true that we are all one , but as long as the ''fake divison'' is in play , you play. If someone is poisoning you and your family,through water,food,air, mind programing you and your family , decepting you from every direction,medicine, religion,educational system..etc , when even your thoughts might not be totally yours, you do what ...you just love. Good luck with that.

More than love i thing its about UNDERSTANDING, accepting things are as they are, and do what you think is best in that situation,without the need even to hate, you just quietly understand that these souls are behaving a ceratain wrong (for you ) way,they are in some way harming you. Knowing they have the free will to do as they please, you understand that, but you too have the free will to take some action and lay your own path. I am sure they have their important role in all this, and when the time comes i might even ''thank'' them, but for the moment i can't ignore whats going one.

When you play chess with your friend you may play to win (like thay do),or for fun, but you dont just ''loose'' on purpose because you love your friend,in fact he would not prefer your surrender,you both understand that its just a game,and whatever the outcome the fun of playing is what remains, the experience of it. In this analogy playing means, being in this illusion, the game , this game is still going on, and unless any of you has a shortcut to go directly to the source,that i haven't heared of, all with wich we are left with is what is here now,of course its just an illusion, a rapresentation but whats the point of being in a game if you didn't want to play at all. And if thats the case, than one begins exploring why he is here uf he doesn't remember anything ar doesn't like it here, maybe something decived into being part of this. Whatever may be your perplexities about all this you have the free will to explore whatever is bothering you, but you cant just say we love them, and that should do it. Do what? Stop them, slow down, weaken them, ar turn them to the opposite direction.
YOU CANT JUST SEND LOVE TO SOMEONE, LIKE YOU CAN SEND MONEY WITH WESTERN UNION, LOVE IS SOMETHING YOU FEEL OR YOU DONT, . You may do more to understand why you have or dont have it, but the moment you ''force'' yourself into sending love you are at that right moment creating a fake version of it, giving power away. And at the moment i am honest with myself when i say i dont feel love for the pope or the illuminati, but i do understand why they do what they do, dont even hate them, i just am not ok with it for obvious reasons and will do my best to change this direction.

I too have my own definition of love, and maybe i misunderstand what others mean by it, it just seems to much forced to me: We have to love more...! How do you do it, i myself think there will come the moment when this love will come more naturally, based on the spiritual evolution, now i stick more with UNDERSTANDING and when waves of love come i am more than happy, but i cant just love for the sake of it, wouldn't be ''true love''.

Its interesting how in one side we know its all an illusion, just experience,no one really dies, but at the other side that same illusion is as much important as being again one, because what remains is the intention, the intention of thanking someone who is responsible for killing millions of people, killing, abusing and torturing children and other crimes we all know. So thank them, love them ?... i have a better idea.....

[mojo]

Based on the scientific proof (see heart math institute) that we are all connected, every negative thought we have about others (sick people, evil pieces of work etc) directly affects the planet and ourselves.

What if all thoughts could be heard/seen? How different each of us would be if everything was exposed. Telepathic beings must surely be more connected...

[tenacity1]

Posted by SKAWF (here)
okay, so let me put this to you....

lets say we are a small collective of about 50 people.
men women and children.
everything is good. we are free, we work together,
we look after each other though the good times and bad, and we have a strong bond.

then one day, man comes along claiming to be spiritual, so we take him in.

he then begins to divide us,
he lies to us,
he abuses our children,
he murders anyone that opposes or threatens his control,
and our collective is bathed in misery.

what would you do?

let him carry on?
do nothing?
not even reject him?

as i say, i know that carrying out acts of violence harm me long term (harming my DNA as you put it)
but i would still be inclined to crack him around the back of the neck with a big stick.

i would take the risk of harming myself through acts commited upon him,
but that would be nothing to the price we would all pay if no one did anything.

so you just sit there while he destroys our lives, and i'll take care of the problem.

i really think you should delve deeply into finding out what these monsters actually do to people.
talk to some who have been abused, or relatives whose family were murdered.
have a look into the spanish inquisition, and the looting of treasures from south america.
the catholic church have been at it for centuries.

crikey, i'm a bit wound up!

i dont hate them though.
i dont hate the germs on my kitchen work surface either,
i still get rid of them though.
because it falls upon me, if i knowingly expose those in my care to things that harm them.

and with that, i'm going to have a cup of tea.

ciao

i will add, that i saw a tear roll down the face of a man in his 50's, because of what the church did to him. i will never forget that.

it's so cool when someone posts excatlly what I was thinking.. Yes we shouldn't give energy to negatives..However, the rape of children by priests .. well let's just say I feel that those who ignore evil are simply endorsing it by complacency.. There is good and evil.. it's no coincidence that evil spelled backwards is LIVE... To not defend the weakest people, children , and to allow what has gone on for 1000's of years.. is simply put WRONG>I'm a survivor... I'll never support the Catholic Church and hope the place falls down around their ears..