Jesus the man / JESUS the Archon – inspired by Houman’s Horus-Ra thread

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by Houman (here)


In Dr Turner's research there are also many examples where these entities appear as Jesus or the Virgin Mary to manipulate the abductees and/or "calling his name" (as Christians do) doesn't appear to be effective (Ted Rice story)...

See also http://janetkatherinesmith.blogspot....y-part-ii.html

"Due to the regression of others, Ted also learned that 'aliens' can simulate Jesus Christ or other religious figures."

Houman. I find this subject extremely interesting. For a while Ive been

pondering over this that the christian church is full of images of this so

called christ. Why? And why is it strict forbidden in Islam to make

images of Muhammed?

Six months ago I had a vision of happenings beyond the Archons.

I had a discussion with my good friend John Lamb Lash about this

vision and he didnt like this jump outside the Sophia-myth. But

still, I had the vision and I didnt choose wot I saw. LOL

More pieces are coming in all the time. And now Im fishing for

more informations to produce a picture where all the dots can be

connected. Maybe we are about to put one of the best kept secrets

in the christian church on the table. We´ll see. LOL

Maybe I should start a new thread on this and let Jesus RIP.

We will see how this rolls out.


All is well


Jorr

[9eagle9]

And why is it strict forbidden in Islam to make

images of Muhammed?

It goes back a rather sound spiritual principal of not making graven or false images of god (make god into an archon--an image, an illusion of God). Which is exactly what archons do. And people of a certain persuasion with their paintings of Jesus and having mad dog Jesus's (like the one I most recently witnessed) hanging around their neck demonstrate how they engage in this sort of thing. Its not limited to making visual images but making linguistic ones as well. Like some who roam around proclaiming what Muhammed and Jesus will do, etc etc.

Christianity has the same interdiction that has obviously been ignored.

[9eagle9]

Archonically speaking humans are persecuted for being humans.

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
There are no christians, have never been, will never be. The idea

of being a christian is not even an illusion. its wots called Maya,

ie christians never existed in the first place

. The idea of being a christian is just

putting a label on oneself believing that the label will will change

the content of that being labelled...

for all political practical purposes race and religion matters

and people are not usually persecuted for being human

but because of race or religion

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And why is it strict forbidden in Islam to make

images of Muhammed?

It goes back a rather sound spiritual principal of not making graven or false images of god (make god into an archon--an image, an illusion of God). Which is exactly what archons do. And people of a certain persuasion with their paintings of Jesus and having mad dog Jesus's (like the one I most recently witnessed) hanging around their neck demonstrate how they engage in this sort of thing. Its not limited to making visual images but making linguistic ones as well. Like some who roam around proclaiming what Muhammed and Jesus will do, etc etc.

Christianity has the same interdiction that has obviously been ignored.

Thank you Eagle for this piece. This is a fat piece in the stew Im boiling. LOL

Ignoring the interdiction in christianity is not by mistake I presume. LOL


All is well


Jorr

[9eagle9]

That sort of Christianity has very selective thinking --self indulgence.

" I'll beat you over the head with Jesus when it serves my purpose but ignore the sorts of wisdoms that require a bit of self restraint."

[Chester]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by Houman (here)


In Dr Turner's research there are also many examples where these entities appear as Jesus or the Virgin Mary to manipulate the abductees and/or "calling his name" (as Christians do) doesn't appear to be effective (Ted Rice story)...

See also http://janetkatherinesmith.blogspot....y-part-ii.html

"Due to the regression of others, Ted also learned that 'aliens' can simulate Jesus Christ or other religious figures."

Houman. I find this subject extremely interesting. For a while Ive been

pondering over this that the christian church is full of images of this so

called christ. Why? And why is it strict forbidden in Islam to make

images of Muhammed?

Six months ago I had a vision of happenings beyond the Archons.

I had a discussion with my good friend John Lamb Lash about this

vision and he didnt like this jump outside the Sophia-myth. But

still, I had the vision and I didnt choose wot I saw. LOL

More pieces are coming in all the time. And now Im fishing for

more informations to produce a picture where all the dots can be

connected. Maybe we are about to put one of the best kept secrets

in the christian church on the table. We´ll see. LOL

Maybe I should start a new thread on this and let Jesus RIP.

We will see how this rolls out.


All is well


Jorr

Hi Jorr - I recently thought I had a solution to the archontic problem (I actually did not as I found out and it almost cost me my life) but I did contact John Lash and came away from my communications with John with a sense of futility and that the only thing a living human being can do is accept the situation and make the best of it by reverting back to the pagan lifestyle. That feels like a western medicine approach - treat the symptom so that it appears the illness has gone away. Something does not feel right about that to me.

I do not want to accept that there's no solution and I will continue to search for a solution and I do so not solely for myself, in fact, my primary motivation stems from my fatherly instinct towards my three sons and the love for my wife and her daughter. And then it stems out to those close to me in my life.

It's not a save the world thing (as it was when the archons had the upper hand with me) but like an alcoholic can never drink successfully, I am of the opinion I must be very cautious of that savior complex.

Anyways, I happen to be reading John's "Not in HIS Image" at the moment so was glad to read your post.

take care... justone

[9eagle9]

I'm curious as to what reverting back to a pagan lifestyle entails? From the perspective of others.

A naturally occuring life versus and artificially enforced one? If the bricks keep falling the way they are we may all be per-emptively leading a pagan lifestyle....lol.

If should events come to pass that is where the wheat and the chaff will be separated. those who continue to wait for someone to save them (including a Fema workcamp officials) and those who have a naturally occurring ability to look after one's self. Trust me my arse likes modern convenience as much as the next person but I admit I've made due nicely without it. Missing it is not the same as needing or depending on it.

In fact as I finally laid the last few end pieces of a long term flooring project in the house a few weeks ago I found myself thinking "If the end is near why are you installing a new floor?"

Why not?. The end will be no better or worse because I did not.

Or people extolling that I should live with them because 'something is about to happen'.

Okay so I can live here as well 'when something happens' than living with others, finally figuring out they were dependent on me for their survival if something 'should happen'.

Oh yay. So after years of warning of imminent collapse moi needs to come babysit your big dumb fat ass?!!! Messiah complex everywhere!!
Pagan is then often used as much as a label as 'Christian' .

I read an excellent book called Pagans and Christians a number of years back that exhibits about zero difference between the two when paganism is viewed as a religion.

As the way the word is actually intended pagan would be more geared towards living naturally--not necessarily out froliking naked in the woods (I know a great many pagans who force themselves to do this to fit in and it sort of defeats the purpose of natural living) .

Anything that is forced is not really natural.

[Chester]

The eagle pounces! Anyway, thanks 9eagle9, I used a poor choice of words when I said "reverting back" as that sounds like a negative view of the pagan lifestyle.

If someone had to label me, they probably would consider "pagan" amongst a few others.

And I do not mean the watered down, popular and/or neo religious pagan... I mean like you state - "pagan would be more geared towards living naturally"

[9eagle9]

The old mother church sure hated the fact there were a bunch of farmers and natural living people still scurrying just beyond the reach of Her sword.

One wonders why such a universal and powerful institution would be so threatened by such a simple sort of folk.

[Hervé]

Greyhound killer believed man he beheaded was an alien

By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: May 22, 2012 8:16 PM


Vince Li, who beheaded a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba nearly four years ago, believed he was chosen by God to save people from an alien attack.

In an interview granted to Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, Li talks about his struggle with the voices that led to the fatal encounter with fellow bus passenger Tim McLean near Portage la Prairie, Man., on July 30, 2008.

Li, who only later understood the voice as schizophrenia, was convinced he was leading the third story of the Bible and "that I was like the second coming of Jesus."


Full article: http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/g...was-an-alien-1

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
[...]

One wonders why such a universal and powerful institution would be so threatened by such a simple sort of folk.

A possible answer to that at this post.

[9eagle9]

People have evolved since then Tarka and are cutting their own heads off now.

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
People have evolved since then Tarka and are cutting their own heads off now.

Must have been imitating the walking, quacking, etc... to that high flying bird....

[RedeZra]

it is Jesus who comes through to heal and help people under archonic influence

not Krishna Buddha nor Allah


so the question for the serious truthseeker is

was Buddha a bull****ter Krishna a kosmokrat and Allah an archon ?


and why is the so-called eastern enlightenment linked with kundalini snake or serpent spirit



For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities [arche] , against powers [exousia], against the rulers [kosmokrator] of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places - Ephesians 6:12



what kind of being can withstand an Archangel ?


"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me [Archangel Gabriel] twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia. - Daniel 10:13



humanity has some powerful enemies

and some are waking up to this fact

but many choose the side of the foe

against God


and to be an enemy of God is not good lol

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Greyhound killer believed man he beheaded was an alien

By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: May 22, 2012 8:16 PM


Vince Li, who beheaded a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba nearly four years ago, believed he was chosen by God to save people from an alien attack.

In an interview granted to Chris Summerville, CEO of the Schizophrenia Society of Canada, Li talks about his struggle with the voices that led to the fatal encounter with fellow bus passenger Tim McLean near Portage la Prairie, Man., on July 30, 2008.

Li, who only later understood the voice as schizophrenia, was convinced he was leading the third story of the Bible and "that I was like the second coming of Jesus."


Full article: http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/g...was-an-alien-1

I remember this story well. I went through the same thing and almost ended my life because of massive synchronicities and then the voices - the reason I had to do it "was to save the world." Same exact type of psychosis, with one exception, never received any instructions to harm another... not once. Anyways, I have ramped up like that over a dozen times.

In my case, this only happens to me with long term, heavy usage of high quality marijuana, but this can happen to people even without any drugs, though rarer. Please, note the significant difference, all my violent actions were always and only directed towards myself and only occurred in two of those over one dozen episodes.

If these experiences are indeed in part due to intrusion of alien mind parasitic beings or something along those lines, it seems that if (I know this is way too idealistic) we could bring this possibility forth into mainstream consideration, and develop techniques like those of Dr, Malanga for example, maybe we can rid our world of these beings.

Again, just a dream but wow... imagine if we could?

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
[...]

One wonders why such a universal and powerful institution would be so threatened by such a simple sort of folk.

A possible answer to that at this post.

WoW Zo - you always got the good stuff. I checked out your post... and now will read Penetration. Thanks justone

[jorr lundstrom]

About John Lash, I would like to say that he has done an XLNT
work with the translation of Nag Hammadi. Before that it had
been translated by some "christians" who all tried to project
a christimage into the prechristian visions of the gnostics.
Not in his image, is worth reading, for anyone, maybe even
those fanatics that are screaming "Jiiizus" from the top of their
unsustainable house of cards. But it takes the courage to ****
your own pants.
When I read it I was confirmed for truths Ive known since I was
fifteen, trying to handle during my engagement in this insane
society. I would like to give the book a subtitle: " Freedom from
beliefs". LOL


All is well


Jorr

[RedeZra]

One of the Dead Sea Scrolls (4Q535, Manuscript B) is written from Amram's point of view, and hence has been dubbed the Testament of Amram. The document is dated to the 2nd century BC and, in the form of a vision, briefly discusses dualism and the Watchers:

I saw Watchers in my vision, the dream-vision. Two men were fighting over me...holding a great contest over me. I asked them, 'Who are you, that you are thus empowered over me?'

They answered, 'We have been empowered and rule over all mankind.'

They said to me, 'Which of us do you choose to rule you?'

I raised my eyes and looked. One of them was terrifying in his appearance, like a serpent, his cloak, many-colored yet very dark....And I looked again, and in his appearance, his visage like a viper....I replied to him, 'This Watcher, who is he?'

He answered, 'This Watcher...his three names are Belial and Prince of Darkness and King of Evil.'

I said (to the other Watcher), 'My lord, what dominion (have you?)'

He answered, 'You saw (the viper), and he is empowered over all Darkness, while I (am empowered over all Light.)...My three names are Michael, Prince of Light and King of Righteousness.

[kreagle]

Posted by justoneman (here)
It is clear to me that one of the most favorite tactics of archonic forces is that when someone earnestly investigates deeper truths that challenge the security of religious dogma and ridiculous fanaticism, out of the woodwork come their minions armed with pages of supposed scripture that by their very words shuts down the evil heresies! what a joke - no wonder the illuminati are laughing and have no fear of humanity.

These clowns don't even realize they are being heavily influenced by the very satanic forces from which they think their messiah is saving them.

justoneman,

I "thought" that this was a topic about Jesus.

I "thought" that I would share some "facts", concerning Him, from "His Word".

This is not the "first" time that I've been made aware that "His Word" offends! You see, the "Word",.....uncovers,.....exposes,......and cuts deeply,.....into all of the hidden crevices of man's soul!

Hebrews 4:11-13
King James Version (KJV)

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

(in closing)

You, justoneman, have "laid open" your life before us, here at Avalon, in a very graphic and heart-rending way.

My heart truly bleeds and aches for that which you have endured in your past. I mean this with all the sincerity that I can possibly relate to you!

Don't confuse "God's Word" as your "enemy"!

When "God's Word",....uncovers,...exposes,....and cuts deeply,...into your life, (just like He did in mine, too!),.....it's simply Him prodding us to "come to terms" and "deal with" the "sinful nature" that we are "all" born with.

As I began with,.....I "thought" this topic was about "Jesus"

Was I "wrong"?

Love and Peace,......kreagle

P.S. I also have come to realize that you have started a "new thread" along the same basic topic,....titled "An exploration of Jesus, could he have been influenced by extra-dimensionals?"

Your "instructions" clearly indicate that I'm not currently welcomed there. I will abide by your wishes, as I currently see them for that particular thread.

Love and Peace,......kreagle

[9eagle9]

God's ' word' is only the tool the enemy uses.

Language. It's how everyone is programmed. All Script(ures) are written in language, all doctrines, all philosophies all the little jiggly catch phrases like 'love and light'.

One notices that those who copy and paste from those sorts of sources are unable to arrange original expression on the topic . They are not able to. So are reduced to quoting, 2nd and 3rd parties.

Resistance to the program causes anger. The program wasn't designed to be challenged (Don't question God's word).