Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[AnthonyBacala]

Yes, hard to reconcile Newton's well-organized-and-positively structured world-view of the 'spirit world' between incarnations with multi-life abduction testimonies (of the Chosen Ones) in this thread.

Mountain Jim, I agree. As much as I was originally affected in a positive way upon reading Newton's work, this thread has forced me to go back and reanalyze every facet of information I have taken in over the years...realizing more of it than not was nothing more than false-positives and wishful thinking, and in some cases, complete and utter BS.

But boy does that New Age material feel so good! Ha, now I see why so many(including myself for quite a while) are duped. We would rather have someone save us than accept the fact that there are things in our world as negative as the material discussed on this forum. But at the end of the day, I would rather swallow the truth, stand my ground, and make plans to change this world...much more than wishfully waiting for someone to save me who really doesn't have my best interest at hand.

Let's keep looking further into this Newton work. Discernment is key!

[Daughter of Time]

Malanca's film, posted by G. DeLuca above, is is a very good film. I'm sure everyone following this thread would like to watch it if they could understand Italian or Spanish. I am fluent in both and I wish I could translate it for you, but since I can't, I will give you a brief synopsis.

Saturnia is the young abductee. She then becomes possessed by the abductor. They think she's schizophrenic. Eventually the abductor whose name is Hexabor, takes her over completely.

Dr. Davide has been hypnotizing her. Under hypnosis Hexabor reveals some information, namely:

His kind don't like Reptilians because Reptilians are stupid since their only purpose is to feed. Hexabor's kind are intelligent because their prime purpose for abduction is mind control. Women are sexually assaulted and implanted. In men, they insert microchips in their heads in order to monitor their activities. They normally abduct young people with high potential which they use for themselves until the host is all used up.

Hexabor informs Davide that there are 13 alien races on earth. They will start a major war and take over the planet. He gives hints that all the major groups that control the planet now are alien races.

Saturnia is taken to the best exhorcist who is utterly impotent in this case as possessions are not demonic but alien.

Davide believes that aliens have no souls which explains why they abduct and possess people with highly developed souls because we have something they lack and want.

Through research Davide finds that it's all in the frequencies. -6.66 herz is the frequency which imprisons the soul. 666 herz is the frequency that liberates it.

Saturnia, who is hosting Hexabor has escaped her confinement and has wondered amongst a group of young people. David finds her and organizes a party of lights and sounds for them to dance and party to. The sound is then lowered to -6.66 herz. This is intolerable for Hexabor because there is nothing to gain at this level because his host has nothing to give at this level. Hexabor then leaves his host. Saturnia is re-united with her parents who are, unfortunately, alien hybrids.

In Davide's final speech to his audience, he tells them that the secret is in the frequency and by manipulating frequencies is how the human race will survive.

[AnthonyBacala]

From Michael Newton's Destiny of Souls:

When a soul joins with a new baby, 1 can be fairly sure the partnership will address both the soul's shortcomings and a body-mind who needs this particular soul. The planners choose bodies for us which are intended to combine our character defects with certain body tempera- ments to produce specific personality combinations. From clients who are medical doctors and physiologists, I have been given brief anatomical glimpses about souls entering the developing brain of a fetus. Case 66 is an example. Posthypnotic suggestions have enabled subjects in these professions to sketch out simplified diagrams of what they were trying to say about these linkages while under hypnosis. This has helped my understanding.

Case 66
Dr. N: I would like to know if the initial transition into the fetus is always about the same for you?
S: No, it is not. Even though I might have had x-ray vision into the mind of the child during life selection, my entry can still be ragged.
Dr. N: Give me your most recent example of a difficult entry.
S: Three lives ago, 1 joined with a very stiff, unreceptive brain. It felt my presence was invasive. This was unusual because most of my host bodies accept my presence. I'm ordinarily considered to be a new roommate.
Dr. N: Are you saying this particular host body felt you were an alien
presence that it should reject?
S: No, it was a dull mind of dense energy pockets. My arrival was an intrusion on its lack of mental activity ... there was ... isolation
between compartments of the brain ... creating resistance to ...
communication. Lethargic minds require more effort on my part. They resist change.
Dr. N: Change of what?
S: Of my being in its space, requiring some reaction to deal with this fact. I caused this mind to think and it was not a curious mind. I began pushing buttons and found it did not want to be summoned by me.
Dr. N: What did you expect?
S: From my review in the sphere (the Ring), I saw the end result of an adult mind but I didn't see all the difficulties with the baby's mind ... when it was new.
Dr. N: I see, and you are saying this mind considered your intrusion as a threat?
S: No, only a nuisance. Eventually, I was accepted and the child and I adapted to each other.
Dr. N: Let's go back to your statement about pushing buttons. Please explain to me what this means to you with a standard entry into the fetus of your choice?
S: When I enter a developing brain 1 am accustomed to joining around the fourth month—our guides give us some latitude here—but I never enter after the sixth month. When I enter the womb of the mother I create a red light of tight energy and direct it up and down the spinal column of the baby—following a network of neurons to the brain.
Dr. N: Why do you do that?
S: This tells me about the efficiency of thought transmission—the sensory relays ...
Dr. N: Then, what do you do?
S: Play my red light around the dura mater—the outer layer of the brain ... gently ...
Dr. N: Why red light?
S: This allows me to be ... especially sensitive to the physical feelings of this new person. I meld my energy warmth to the gray-blues of brain matter. Before I get there, the brain is simply gray. What I am doing is turning on the lights in a dark room with a tree in the middle.
Dr. N: You lost me. Explain about the tree.
S: (intensely) The tree is the stem. I park myself between the two hemispheres of the brain to get a ringside seat as to how this system will function. Then I move around the branches of the tree to
investigate the circuitry. I want to know how dense the energy is in the fibers around the wheel of the cerebral cortex folding around the thalamus ... I want to learn how this brain thinks and senses things.
Dr. N: How important is energy density or the lack of it in the brain?
S: A mind that has excessive density in certain areas means there are blockages which inhibit the bridges between efficient neuron activity. I want to make some adjustments in these road blocks with my energy if I can—you know—while the brain is still forming.
Dr. N: You can make a difference in how the brain develops?
S: (laughs at me) Of course! Did you think souls are passengers on a train? I stimulate these areas ever so slightly.
Dr. N: (deliberately obtuse) Well, 1 thought you and the baby ... are both in miniature by the way you exhibit intelligence in the beginning.
S: (laughs) Not until birth.
Dr. N: Are you saying that you can improve brain wave function with all (hese activities you have described?
S: That is our expectation. The whole idea is matching your vibra- tional levels and capabilities with that of the natural rhythms of the child's brain waves—their electrical flow, (with exuberance) I think my host bodies are grateful for my assistance in improving the speed of thought over bridges, (stops and then adds) Maybe this is wishful thinking.
Dr. N: What do you see in the future for the brain with continued evolution and the influence of souls as a stimulus?
S: Mental telepathy.

[tonius]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Ultimately, the four videos I have watched of Malanga's describe how these aliens look, but almost nothing about what they do to the abductees.
I imagine there must be other Malaga videos out there. If I find them and they describe different alien actitivities from the above descriptions, I will translate/paraphrase his words here.

Daughter of Time thanks for your contibution, i would like to explain further some of the work of this man. I will do it with my words,from what i have understood from him ,after having seen almost every video thats out there about his work. What is interesting is that malanga is not an abductee himself, and this fact in combination with his scientific aproach is an advantage, from the ''being more'' objective point of view. He is a professsor of chemistry in the university of Pisa, he has also published works in his area, many years ago he was part of the ''classic'' ufo studing community, the same like many in other countries, amatuers who study photos all their life without going further. He saw that something was wrong in their aproach, and things seemed to go much deeper. He got away and begin his own research.

There is a great combination of scientific mind, curiosity,courage, humility in this man, thats why from what i have learned from many sources ,like avalon, other reserches i still consider his work one of the most complete and most ''scientific'' as it can go. With scientific i dont mean the classical way, its more in the sense of a great tool if used the right way, with the only purpose being : discovering the truth in whatever form it comes. He had to learn hypnosis, and later use the nlp concepts adapted to his needs to ''communicate'' with what is deep in each of us,and its not so easy. In their sessions with hundreds of abductees all over italy, he (and his assistants) began noticing the same patern everywhere, with little changing deatils ( its understandable that when you go into the subconcious af a person whose memory has also been erased from alien technology, to have slightly different interpretations, even two persons fully awake see the same thing as different based on their interpretation of it. But the things that happened to these people during abductions were the same in core, and after so many sessions things began to be clearer.

Its interesting when he says : Its not about what you and me want or not to belive, its about the fact that something big is going here under our noses and few are willing to see what it is.

I find his work interesting because i was always interested on the bigger picture, for what is at the top of the pyramide, as far as we can see of it. What is the main result of his work , if it could be told in one sentence? : They are interested esclusivly in what we call Soul, Soul energy, that connection we have with the source of all. Everything else they do, the physical effects ,the studies of our bodies etc... are just a result of their main purpose. As now its clear, some of these beings are not physical at all, and even if the ''reptilians'' seem to at the top some of these pyramid, the pyramid seems to go further up. Its like the less you see or can understand of these beings the more dangerous ( for us ) they are, as the now famous ''ra'' seems to be. But this comes out from many other sources too.

Returning to what happens to the abductess in this process , they all talk about the same things, they see themself in kind of cylindrical conteiners and frequently nearby there is usually an alien being ,in another conteainer, usually reptilian form where they test their latest advancments in soul energy transfer, like we were batteries to them, batteries for their survival and also for their pleasure, when we say we are ''food'' to them seems literally true, although their foood has less to do with physical matter. Sometimes the abductees see a copy of them in the other cylinder, this is in the cases when more work has to be done so they have to send someone ''down'' not to arise suspicion, and these are very good copies , with the abducties memories and everything exept the soul part. Only a close person may notice the ''coldness' in the copy, but without this knowlegde its difficult to understand whats happening. What Malanga does to help abductees in this process is to connect to their soul, and make it aware of whats happening, how this beings are taking advantage of her container ( the physical body and other parts of our rapresentation in this reality) and once the soul understands whats happening there is no alien that can stand in the way.

I want to add some words of mine, my take on this :
When malanga talks about these aliens as a dying race ,with no soul connection trying desperatly to find a way to survive , at least the lower parts of this pyramid, i interpret the ''dying'' part as a price to pay for not willing to go further in the spiritual evolution, the road to the source of all, this in the bigger picture, if you try for to long to stick to a certain pradatory way of existing you are missing the point, that phase was ment to make you understand you what you really are , and ''who'' started the process shurely had a backup plan in case any ''part'' of the consciousness took this wrong direction, wrong because they know more than we do what its all about, they just like too much existing for eternity in this way. They dont accept they are part of a bigger project, like a drug addict ( their drug is negativity, thats what they are) they pretend to have the benefits of the drug while expecting to have the life span other people do. This is an analogy, as it seems, its like whent a part of our body isn't used for a long time, or not needed anymore ceasses to be alive. In this analogy the body being ''all there is''.

Having advanced technolgy doesn't mean anything what we talk about consciousness, as it itself is just an illusion, a tool that symbolicly rappresents what to that ''part'' of counsciosness is ''allowed'' to do, manifest at a certain point of its spiritual evolution, what counts is the intention,particular to each part of consciousness, in our case this group of alien races are a part of consciousness ( with part i mean a certain rapresentation of it through their intentions). No one really dies, but for them going on in the spiritual evolution is not an option, its like dying, they had all the ''time'' to ''get'' it , thats why their technology is so advanced but their spiritual understanding is not. They are addicted to the game they created (as they like us are a manifastitation of consciousness), and you cant pretend living a healthy life going against your body , snifing drugs all day (analogy).

As nothing really dies , the part that started all this game knows this ( call it god, source... doesnt matter ) so ,like in a chess game it knows the game cant go on if any piece ''refuses'' to follow the rules, and if for the piece living the game , means dying, the end of it, too much addicted to that chesboard, than of course it will do anything to stay on it, even praying on other pieces it still belives there is a way to stay more. Peices must leave for the game to go on, and all the frustration of a piece leaving is that it sees itself just a separate entity, with its unique form, forgetting its just a creation of the two players for the sake of playing, in fact it forgets its the player himself as it was the intetion of the player moving it, ''using'' it, that gave a sense to its existence to begin with. Being in the chesboard or not doesnt matter at all if there is no players moving it with an intetion, and in this anlogy what we call ''SOUL'' is the presence of this intetion, otherwise its are just a piece of wood or plastic without a purpose. And these alien beings have lost the support of the ''players'' who created them, there is no intention anymore in their movement, they are just ''fighting'' with other pieces , changing the nature of the game they wre creted for campletely,and thats whats ment by : they need our soul energy, it means they lost the support of their creator, there is no more intention behind their movements, they are ''dead' just like chess pieces without anyone playing are usless, just a decoration.

Thats how its explained how its possible that apperantly ''less evolved'' beings like us have something this ''more evolved'' beings would die for, they are just better shaped , looking chesboard pieces, they had all the time to perfect their outer look, their appereance ( analogy for their technological advancement) but they know that it doesnt matter until they are part of a real chess game with real players, and thts what we have ,''reason to be'', we are the ney players. And they will do anything to have some of this energy, this intention coming from the source, and this source doesnt care what you look like, what is worth is your moves, moves that from this alien group (alien to us) have become boring a long time ago, time for them to leave .

I know i got far but for me these is the most important part , understanding what makes us so special to them, at the point where they abduct us, direct our lives through their hybrids and human pupets, and hide us fro the rest of the ''chesboard''. Once understood this, one can go further srtuding the implications ,the effects of this, what we talk about every day, but discussing all day without understanding better the reasons of whats happening is not the way. I am aware that explaining things with words is tough, and they just merely rapresent how things realy look ''out there'' , but i trust ,like i mentioned above that what counts is our Intention to really search the truth, as far as we can, and as no intention gets wasted , eventually will come the moment we will see for what it really is, what we have so much discussed about and tried to figure out with our limited means at the moment. Its like when has has never seen the sea,been there, you can waste all life reding about it, discussing infinitely with others that have not seen it, but it takes just one minute of feeling the waves tickling your foots to have all your questions answered, all that notions, that chaos in your head, speculatins abot these beautiful part of this physical reality disappear, now you really know.

There is much of Malanga's work to talk about ,but for this post i think is enough.He has my full appreciation for what he has done, like may other sincere researchers, he has trully helped us all, not only the people who no more get abducted but even others ,to understand better that the reality we think we are part of is bigger than we imagined, imagine if what he has done alone, was done also by other so called ''scientists'', pseudo intellectuals, if this desire to search the truth became our collective intention, what a different reality we would have here.

[AnthonyBacala]

From the following case presented in Destiny of Souls:

Certainly, I have had younger souls who appear to be more inactive after body entry than case 66. This is a far sight better than agitating the child by ineptness from overzealous, inexperienced souls. The average soul probes their new host for information but in a way that has been described as "tickling the child to give it pleasure." Essentially, this is an important time for integration between body and soul with the mother also mentally entering into this process of getting acquainted. By no means is the seat of the soul limited to the brain. Soul energy radiates throughout the whole body of the child.
Case 66 is a medical doctor. My next case comes from a non-med- ically oriented client about the union of two entities to form one whole as a new life begins. Each soul has its own preferences about when and how they wish to enter the fetus. The following case gives us an indica- tion of the procedures used by a very considerate, evolved soul.
Case 67
Dr. N: Tell me what it is like to enter the mind of a baby and when you usually enter.
S: In the beginning I think of it as a betrothal. I entered my current body in the eighth month. I prefer to enter on the late side when the brain is larger so I have more to work with during the coupling.
Dr. N: Isn't there a downside to entering late? I mean, you are then dealing with a more independent individual.
S: Some of my friends feel that way, I don't. I want to be able to talk with the child when there is more mutual awareness.
Dr. N: (being dense to elicit a response) Talk—talk to a fetus—what are you saying ...?
S: (laughs at me) Of course we interact with the child. Dr. N: Take me through this slowly. Who says what first?
S: The child may say, "Who are you?" I answer, "A friend who has come to play and be a part of you."
Dr. N: (with deliberate provocation) Isn't that deceitful? You haven't come to play. You have come to occupy this mind.
S: Oh, please! Who have you been talking to? This mind and my soul were created to be together. Do you think I am some sort of foreign intruder on Earth? I have joined with babies who welcomed me as if I were expected.
Dr. N: There are souls who have had a different experience.
S: Look, I know souls who are clumsy. They go in like bulls in a china shop with their over-eagerness to get started with an agenda. Too much frontal energy all at once sets up resistance.
Dr. N: In your current lifetime, was the child at all anxious about your entry?
S: No, they don't know enough yet to be anxious. 1 begin by caressing the brain. I am able to immediately project warm thoughts of love and companionship. Most of the babies just accept me as being part of themselves. A few hold back—like my current body.
Dr. N: Oh, really? What was unusual about this fetus?
S: It wasn't a big deal. Its thoughts were, "Now that you are here, who am I going to be?"
Dr. N: I think that's a very big deal. Essentially, the child is acknowl- edging that its identity depends on you.
S: (patiently) The child has begun to ask itself, "Who am I?" Some
children are more aware of this than others. A few are resistant because, to them, we are an irritation to their inert beginnings— like a pearl in an oyster.
Dr. N: So you don't feel the child senses it is being forced to give up something of its individuality?
S: No, we have come as souls to give the child ... depth of personality. Its being is enhanced by our presence. Without us they would largely function as unripened fruit.
Dr. N: But does the child understand any of this before birth?
S: It only knows that I want to be friends so we can do things together. We begin by communicating with each other with simple things such as an uncomfortable body position in the mother's womb. There have been times when the umbilical chord was wrapped around the neck of the baby and I have calmed the child where otherwise it might have squirmed and made things worse.
Dr. N: Please continue with how you assist the baby.
S: I prepare the child for birth, which is going to be a shock when it happens. Imagine being forced out of a warm, comfortable, secure womb into the bright lights of a hospital room ... the noise ... having to breathe air... being handled. The child appreciates my help because my primary goal now is to combat fear by soothing the brain with assurances that everything will be fine.
Dr. N: I wonder what it was like for children before souls came to help them?
S: The brain was too primitive then to conceptualize the trauma of birthing. There was little awareness. (Laughs) Of course I wasn't around in those days.
Dr. N: Are you able to calm anxious mothers in any way?
S: We must be proficient. During much of my existence I had little or no effect on my mothers if they were frightened, sad or angry during pregnancy. You must be able to align your energy vibrations with both the child and the mother's natural body rhythms. You have to harmonize three sets of wave levels—which includes your own—to soothe the mother. I might even have the baby kick the mother to let her know we are all right.
Dr. N: Then at birth, I supposed the hard work of the merger is over?
S: To be honest, the merger isn't complete yet for me. I talk to my body
as a second entity up to the age of six. It is better not to force a full meld right away. We play games as two people tor a while.
Dr. N: I have noticed a lot of young children talk to themselves as if they were with an imaginary playmate. Is that their soul?
S: (grinning) That's right, although our guides enjoy playing with us as young children too. And have you also noticed the elderly talking to themselves a lot? They are preparing for separation at the other end in their own way.
Dr. N: In general how do you feel about coming back to Earth in life after life?
S: As a gift. This is such a muhifaceted planet. Sure, this place brings heartache, but it is delightful too and incredibly heautiful. The human body is a marvel of form and structure. 1 never cease to be awed by each new body, the many different ways I can express myself in them, especially in the most important way—love.

[Chester]

I have an interesting consideration regarding the difference between the picture we might get from Newton's work as opposed to Dr. Malanga's work.

The role the observer plays cannot be disregarded. No matter what techniques are used, the observer, because of the focus of their attention, is going to influence the appearance of the observation.

Then when we third party observers read the accounts presented by Newton and Malanga, we cannot help but see differences (and some quite significant) between the two data sets and that causes the logical mind to question one or the other or both as to the veracity or perhaps better stated, the believability.

It's possible both are true. What I mean by that is that if both Newton and Malanga have only good intentions in what they are hoping to accomplish - which is helping the individual undergoing the process, then in that sense it seems to me that the results are true for both practitioners.

What a mystery this all is.

It is finally dawning on me the immense personal responsibility I have (I assume we all have) in the reality we experience - specifically in relation to how this effects others.

Thank you, Houamn, AnthonyBacala, mountain_jim, Daughter of Time, G. Deluca and tonius for your recent posts. Thank you especially for the much needed translation of Dr. Malanga’s works/videos as many of us here on Avalon do not speak Italian.

[Daughter of Time]

One thing I forgot to mention about the Malanga videos is that Dr. Malanga is fully convinced that nightmares, phobias, anxiety and panic attacks, split personality and such occurrences are mostly the result of abductions and alien visitations as one is not always abudcted. One could be visited and implanted in one's own bed.

[Hervé]

Remember these?:

Posted by Houman (here)
The following posts come from themilababductions.blogspot.com
the website no longer exists, so this is from Google Cache

Keep in mind that the following posts are from a single abductee (Kiya) and that he was never in control of his experience and that some of his memories could have been altered and he might have been experiencing the VRT (Virtual Reality Technology) mentioned by Dr Karla Turner


Kiya
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from http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

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The tube closest to me held a little brown-haired boy of perhaps 8-10 years old. His eyes were missing as was his left arm. It was the most vile thing I've ever seen and it sickened me to the core. I didn't want to look at these hacked up humans and tried to escape. I found I was paralyzed and couldn't move so I stared at my feet so I wouldn't have to look at these stasis tubes. I was standing on a metal grate catwalk. To my left was a short ladder leading to yet another level of these stasis tubes.

I was given the telepathic message to stop working these Illuminati abduction cases or "You'll end up in one of these tubes!"

From my sketchbook: The Stasis Tubes


[...]

Other Milabs have made sketches of these same stasis tubes they have seen.



Clearly, there is ample evidence of the existence of these stasis tubes.

[...]

I am glad these "memories" are finally surfacing all over the place in which abductees often run into their "clone(s)" in one or more of these "stasis tubes".

Well, there is a slightly different perspective on these containers and their uses.

A perspective that has been ridiculed, trampled with scoffing criticisms; in short cointelpro-ed by any and all means available to the letter agencies and others when the truthful reality of something is closely approached, as exhibited with whistle blowers or the battles of debunkings / counter-debunking displayed all over the world-wide-web.

Keep the above in mind when running into the name of the author of the following first published in 1952!:

Bodies in pawn

Bodies in pawn result from an ancient "very gruesome experience" in which:

a fellow is grabbed, hypnotized, shoved into an electronic field, and then told he is somewhere else. And so he departs—most of him—and goes to the new location while still being under control of the implanters. He picks up a MEST [Matter-Energy-Space-Time = physical] body in the new location and starts living a life there, while still having a living body somewhere else. The implanters can keep his original body alive indefinitely, and control the thetan through it. If the thetan tries to flee, the hypnotizers simply cause pain to the original body, still alive in a vat of fluid, and he is immediately recalled. That's a BODY IN PAWN. It's a second body you may have, living somewhere else, right in present time. But the second body is not under YOUR direct control.
(Source magazine #105, pg.39, 1997; see also Hubbard, Research and Discovery Series vol. 10)

They can apparently cause major problems for people undergoing medical operations, as "pain, an anaesthetic or a serious accident cause him to change to the other area with a shocking impact on the other body. The other body quite commonly dies or is deranged by the sudden impact." This gives the patient a repressed feeling of having died and leaves him "very, very badly disturbed." (Scientology: A History of Man)

Now, that perspective gives off a wealth of clues regarding:

• Voodoo
• Parallel universes
• NDEs
• Time lines
• Soul transfers
• Add your own...

Voodoo: Where would one think the idea of pocking needles and nails into a substitute body to keep the intended recipient in line comes from?

Parallel universes: Having memories of living in two or more places at the same time.

NDEs: "Sorry pal, you've got to go back to that messed up body of yours because something happened to the one we had here... the container broke...."

Soul transfers: Easy as pie: Standard Political Operating Procedure... with post-hypnotic commands of misbehaving with the new walk-in body: "Go take control of the body of that president's wife and get her to like having s&x with little boys and girls and we'll get your husband from here to do the same with your new husband over there so we can blackmail them all." The internecine battles of secret societies....

Sci-Fi? Think again! Where do you think most of these Sci-Fi writers get their "inspirations" from? Particularly the popular ones, since they strike a few resonant chords in most people long memory.

Think of the many "super-soldiers" now coming out from under the woodpile and recounting their "dream-state" intense training in which there is no fear of anything whatsoever.

It seems to me that that's the technology that was imparted to the militaries of this planet, the ones dreaming of perfect robotic soldiers with no fear to die... hey, they've got a spare body somewhere!


Now, for the main difficulty most researchers in that field are unaware of.

The major difficulty, apart from screen memories, is that similar experiences get all lumped up together in one individual's mind. Hence there might be an actual current happening of abductions getting mixed up with past ones as recounted by Truman Cash... or not. But the now widespread reporting of UFO and abduction occurrences may be enough to strike those resonant chords of past long memories and bring them to the here and now for the individual, triggering them into enactment of past traumas.

So, for those following this thread, welcome to the mind's mine field!

[Houman]

Tonius and DaughterOfTime: Thanks for the posts (keep them coming).

It is no coincidence that Satanists are going down the same road as these entities (in their "world", they strive for a separation from the "source" by focusing the "self", they call this act "Xeper")...

from "The Dark Lord", P. Simpson

"So if Nirvana is a diffusing of self, then Xeper is a focusing of self?" "In a way, yes."

from https://xeper.org/maquino/nm/BlackMagicRL.pdf


...The Setian sees before him none of this. His initiation unfolds him into
a god - a creator of universes, not their servant, pet, or otherwise-
component. While still in physical incarnation, he distinguishes and
distances himself ever further from the OU; upon his final separation from
it he becomes fully, permanently, and immortally the font, source, primum
movens of what was formerly his SU - and now his own OU. This is a
formidable, even terrifying anticipation for non Setian intellects; their
literature abounds with warnings of the dire fate and punishment awaiting
those who, like Icarus, dare to approach, much less become gods
themselves.
But to the Setian this Xeper, this full Coming Into Being, is the ultimate
affirmation, manifestion, and fulfillment of one's conscious existence. Its
culmination is implicit and foreordained in one's very first step into the
Temple of Set.


Note: OU= Obective universe, SU= Subjective universe

Posted by tonius (here)

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
Ultimately, the four videos I have watched of Malanga's describe how these aliens look, but almost nothing about what they do to the abductees.
I imagine there must be other Malaga videos out there. If I find them and they describe different alien actitivities from the above descriptions, I will translate/paraphrase his words here.

Daughter of Time thanks for your contibution, i would like to explain further some of the work of this man. I will do it with my words,from what i have understood from him ,after having seen almost every video thats out there about his work. What is interesting is that malanga is not an abductee himself, and this fact in combination with his scientific aproach is an advantage, from the ''being more'' objective point of view. He is a professsor of chemistry in the university of Pisa, he has also published works in his area, many years ago he was part of the ''classic'' ufo studing community, the same like many in other countries, amatuers who study photos all their life without going further. He saw that something was wrong in their aproach, and things seemed to go much deeper. He got away and begin his own research.

There is a great combination of scientific mind, curiosity,courage, humility in this man, thats why from what i have learned from many sources ,like avalon, other reserches i still consider his work one of the most complete and most ''scientific'' as it can go. With scientific i dont mean the classical way, its more in the sense of a great tool if used the right way, with the only purpose being : discovering the truth in whatever form it comes. He had to learn hypnosis, and later use the nlp concepts adapted to his needs to ''communicate'' with what is deep in each of us,and its not so easy. In their sessions with hundreds of abductees all over italy, he (and his assistants) began noticing the same patern everywhere, with little changing deatils ( its understandable that when you go into the subconcious af a person whose memory has also been erased from alien technology, to have slightly different interpretations, even two persons fully awake see the same thing as different based on their interpretation of it. But the things that happened to these people during abductions were the same in core, and after so many sessions things began to be clearer.

Its interesting when he says : Its not about what you and me want or not to belive, its about the fact that something big is going here under our noses and few are willing to see what it is.

I find his work interesting because i was always interested on the bigger picture, for what is at the top of the pyramide, as far as we can see of it. What is the main result of his work , if it could be told in one sentence? : They are interested esclusivly in what we call Soul, Soul energy, that connection we have with the source of all. Everything else they do, the physical effects ,the studies of our bodies etc... are just a result of their main purpose. As now its clear, some of these beings are not physical at all, and even if the ''reptilians'' seem to at the top some of these pyramid, the pyramid seems to go further up. Its like the less you see or can understand of these beings the more dangerous ( for us ) they are, as the now famous ''ra'' seems to be. But this comes out from many other sources too.

Returning to what happens to the abductess in this process , they all talk about the same things, they see themself in kind of cylindrical conteiners and frequently nearby there is usually an alien being ,in another conteainer, usually reptilian form where they test their latest advancments in soul energy transfer, like we were batteries to them, batteries for their survival and also for their pleasure, when we say we are ''food'' to them seems literally true, although their foood has less to do with physical matter. Sometimes the abductees see a copy of them in the other cylinder, this is in the cases when more work has to be done so they have to send someone ''down'' not to arise suspicion, and these are very good copies , with the abducties memories and everything exept the soul part. Only a close person may notice the ''coldness' in the copy, but without this knowlegde its difficult to understand whats happening. What Malanga does to help abductees in this process is to connect to their soul, and make it aware of whats happening, how this beings are taking advantage of her container ( the physical body and other parts of our rapresentation in this reality) and once the soul understands whats happening there is no alien that can stand in the way.

I want to add some words of mine, my take on this :
When malanga talks about these aliens as a dying race ,with no soul connection trying desperatly to find a way to survive , at least the lower parts of this pyramid, i interpret the ''dying'' part as a price to pay for not willing to go further in the spiritual evolution, the road to the source of all, this in the bigger picture, if you try for to long to stick to a certain pradatory way of existing you are missing the point, that phase was ment to make you understand you what you really are , and ''who'' started the process shurely had a backup plan in case any ''part'' of the consciousness took this wrong direction, wrong because they know more than we do what its all about, they just like too much existing for eternity in this way. They dont accept they are part of a bigger project, like a drug addict ( their drug is negativity, thats what they are) they pretend to have the benefits of the drug while expecting to have the life span other people do. This is an analogy, as it seems, its like whent a part of our body isn't used for a long time, or not needed anymore ceasses to be alive. In this analogy the body being ''all there is''.

Having advanced technolgy doesn't mean anything what we talk about consciousness, as it itself is just an illusion, a tool that symbolicly rappresents what to that ''part'' of counsciosness is ''allowed'' to do, manifest at a certain point of its spiritual evolution, what counts is the intention,particular to each part of consciousness, in our case this group of alien races are a part of consciousness ( with part i mean a certain rapresentation of it through their intentions). No one really dies, but for them going on in the spiritual evolution is not an option, its like dying, they had all the ''time'' to ''get'' it , thats why their technology is so advanced but their spiritual understanding is not. They are addicted to the game they created (as they like us are a manifastitation of consciousness), and you cant pretend living a healthy life going against your body , snifing drugs all day (analogy).

As nothing really dies , the part that started all this game knows this ( call it god, source... doesnt matter ) so ,like in a chess game it knows the game cant go on if any piece ''refuses'' to follow the rules, and if for the piece living the game , means dying, the end of it, too much addicted to that chesboard, than of course it will do anything to stay on it, even praying on other pieces it still belives there is a way to stay more. Peices must leave for the game to go on, and all the frustration of a piece leaving is that it sees itself just a separate entity, with its unique form, forgetting its just a creation of the two players for the sake of playing, in fact it forgets its the player himself as it was the intetion of the player moving it, ''using'' it, that gave a sense to its existence to begin with. Being in the chesboard or not doesnt matter at all if there is no players moving it with an intetion, and in this anlogy what we call ''SOUL'' is the presence of this intetion, otherwise its are just a piece of wood or plastic without a purpose. And these alien beings have lost the support of the ''players'' who created them, there is no intention anymore in their movement, they are just ''fighting'' with other pieces , changing the nature of the game they wre creted for campletely,and thats whats ment by : they need our soul energy, it means they lost the support of their creator, there is no more intention behind their movements, they are ''dead' just like chess pieces without anyone playing are usless, just a decoration.

Thats how its explained how its possible that apperantly ''less evolved'' beings like us have something this ''more evolved'' beings would die for, they are just better shaped , looking chesboard pieces, they had all the time to perfect their outer look, their appereance ( analogy for their technological advancement) but they know that it doesnt matter until they are part of a real chess game with real players, and thts what we have ,''reason to be'', we are the ney players. And they will do anything to have some of this energy, this intention coming from the source, and this source doesnt care what you look like, what is worth is your moves, moves that from this alien group (alien to us) have become boring a long time ago, time for them to leave .

I know i got far but for me these is the most important part , understanding what makes us so special to them, at the point where they abduct us, direct our lives through their hybrids and human pupets, and hide us fro the rest of the ''chesboard''. Once understood this, one can go further srtuding the implications ,the effects of this, what we talk about every day, but discussing all day without understanding better the reasons of whats happening is not the way. I am aware that explaining things with words is tough, and they just merely rapresent how things realy look ''out there'' , but i trust ,like i mentioned above that what counts is our Intention to really search the truth, as far as we can, and as no intention gets wasted , eventually will come the moment we will see for what it really is, what we have so much discussed about and tried to figure out with our limited means at the moment. Its like when has has never seen the sea,been there, you can waste all life reding about it, discussing infinitely with others that have not seen it, but it takes just one minute of feeling the waves tickling your foots to have all your questions answered, all that notions, that chaos in your head, speculatins abot these beautiful part of this physical reality disappear, now you really know.

There is much of Malanga's work to talk about ,but for this post i think is enough.He has my full appreciation for what he has done, like may other sincere researchers, he has trully helped us all, not only the people who no more get abducted but even others ,to understand better that the reality we think we are part of is bigger than we imagined, imagine if what he has done alone, was done also by other so called ''scientists'', pseudo intellectuals, if this desire to search the truth became our collective intention, what a different reality we would have here.

[Houman]

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Not sure if this will help all of those curious about Newton's work, but I just found this. Houman, what do you think about this material?

I am not familiar with it (I have to look into it) but it would seem that you and mountain_jim are doing a good job at investigating it...

[Daughter of Time]

In Dr. Malanga's film, Hexabor, the alien who possessed the young woman, states that Satanic cults were started by an alien race and all their high priests are aliens as well as most of the members. Hexabor also informs that the reason for altering our DNA a very long time ago was so that we could look more like them, therefore they can live amogst us undetected.

In his videos, Dr. Malaga states that once abducted, there is not need to re-abduct you unless they wish to implant you with something new or do something to you that they didn't do the first time. A mere visit to your bed will re-inforce the initial programming and implant.

[Chester]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
One thing I forgot to mention about the Malanga videos is that Dr. Malanga is fully convinced that nightmares, phobias, anxiety and panic attacks, split personality and such occurrences are mostly the result of abductions and alien visitations as one is not always abudcted. One could be visited and implanted in one's own bed.

Amazing... two nights ago, about 2 hours after I went to sleep, I awoke from a vivid dream. This is the first time I have ever had a dream like this that I recall (I am 54). In the dream, aliens had me somewhere where I am going to have an object inserted into me. The object appeared to be glass and was shaped like an arc and was about 3/4 of an inch long and was shiny black.

Let me add this to, in the dream were 4 or 5 of these beings that were working on me. It was like we were friends. I wasn't afraid of them. They were similar to one of the grey groups but these seemed to have souls... they felt very alive. We were connected and I had no fear of them. Still, something in me made me wake up.

Then last night about 1.5 hours after I went to sleep, I had another vivid dream and the first time I ever had this but now that I have, I "know" what it feels like to have an out of body experience. In my dream I vividly felt "me" leaving my body. I was standing in a room and "I" departed my body to my direct left. To my left was a white plaster wall only about 3 to 5 feet from my physical body. When "I" came to the wall, I had a strange sense that I was to go through the wall and "I" started to move through the wall but "I" became very afraid... I had a feeling that if I went through the wall, I might not be able to get back to my body and so I did what i always do when I get scared in a dream, I woke up.

That these two dreams come at this time in light of all the postings I have been making and revelations about my personal story and all... these two experiences which were dreams but very very vivid, is no surprise and then I read this post I quoted here.

In addition, and because I am determined to get to the bottom of all this (as if I ever will), and because of the several mentions of the work of Dr. Michael Newton I went to his website -

http://www.spiritualregression.org/

Went to the contact TNI page - then found a link called "Find a Therapist." Did a search for my area and found a gentleman named Mark V. Johnson and e-mailed him about an appointment and costs. He e-mailed me back and suggested I call instead. I called today at around 11:30 AM and we talked for over 2 hours!

He has training from both Deloris Cannon and Dr. Newton but mentioned he has incorporated his own techniques, etc. and well, to make a long story short (hard for me... I know), I have scheduled to meet with him and undergo a multi-hour session - past life regression and have plans to go for the LBL afterwards. My appointment is for June 4th. This should be interesting.

I will report whatever I can, and he does record the sessions. It will be interesting to see what comes out based on all the nutty stuff I have posted about (which is only about 1/4th of my story... just haven't been able to bring myself to cover some of the other though I believe I will reveal it all on Avalon by the end of the next few months).

Man... am I glad I found this site. You folks are amazing. Thanks for putting up with my BS when I get that way.

justone

[Daughter of Time]

justoneman, for your sake, I hope that what you reported above is only dreams - it could be only dreams. It could also be memories of a previous abduction. Reading and contributing to this thread might have triggered memories that were buried in your subconscious.

When they abduct you from your bed, it's not just the non physical essence that they take, they actually manage to de-materialize the body so it can go through walls and then re-materialize it once it is out of your home! I don't know how they do that, but it has been reported by Dr. Malanga and other experts that this is what happens.

There is a film called "The Fourth Kind" which is actually a documentary of UFO abductions in a small town in Alaska. It is extremely frightening. The footage is not dramatized, but real - abductions and possessions caught on camera! I recommend that you watch if you haven't done so yet. It is frightening. But knowledge is power. It is better to know and be frightened than to remain ignorant. The more ignorant we are, the easier it is to become and remain prey.

I personally have had many experiences like the ones you reported above. I could fill a book about my personal experiences. You are not alone.

Those beings have been preying on us for probably nearly a million years. They are very clever. But we are starting to awaken and to remember. I'm sure they don't like this because it's so much easier to prey on someone who doesn't believe they exist. This kind of communication is very important because most of the humans on this planet are still very much asleep.

As a group, we are stronger than alone. We will get to the bottom of it somehow and find a way to keep them away.

[Hervé]

Found this which is said to be actual footage not part of the movie:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DnH45syvnbk

Comments:

Uploaded by jasperfinch on Mar 14, 2010
This video is case footage not recreated for the movie.
This movie is copyrighted by Universal Studios and I have nothing to do with them. This is not my video.

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• I had a weird experience as a child where I awoke to a smell I'd never experienced and still haven't I couldn't open my eyes or move my arms and legs could only shout, I freaked out and my body started shaking and I blanked out, when I finally came to again I was in my bed,since I was a child I'd never thought much of it, I can't explain anything from the experience, but it was definitely a weird experience
  
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Sorry but this isnt fake maybe that actress that played her was fake but all this really happened in nome, Alaska.... all real events.... i know "just cause its a movie" its realy not faked in real life..... If you really looked hard enough for the cases on the internet but i don't believe you can because our goverment wants it to be a secret .... yes i believe in aliens :D

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All of these little babies absolutely horrific.
This thread has been very difficult to read, but I am grateful to it and all who have contributed.
I have had to stop and go do other things or read another thread that is lighter in nature.
This is a much needed thread and I hope a lot of people will read it and see the reality of it all
and take some action in their lives or help another person(s).

Yes there are a lot of parallels in my own life.

Here are a couple of links to other threads on the same topic.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...soul+harvester

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ohawk+children


Love

Nora

[Daughter of Time]

Amzer, thank you for posting the footage above. There are other cases in the film very similar to that one. From what I remember, all abductors spoke in Sumerian.

Dr. Nora Tyler video taped her cases. These beings killed her husband in bed next to her and they abducted her young daughter by levitating her right through the ceiling. The worst thing is that they blamed her for the deaths. But the abductors didn't kill her. They just drove her insane. At the end of the film she is interviewed - a very broken woman. Her daughter was never returned and her son blamed her as well. The film haunted me for days. It still does when I think about it.

Nora, I know how difficult it must be for you to read and watch these things. But the more people become aware of this reality, the greater the chance of finding a solution. There is strength in numbers.

Love and light (we need it)

[Chester]

Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
justoneman, for your sake, I hope that what you reported above is only dreams - it could be only dreams. It could also be memories of a previous abduction. Reading and contributing to this thread might have triggered memories that were buried in your subconscious.

When they abduct you from your bed, it's not just the non physical essence that they take, they actually manage to de-materialize the body so it can go through walls and then re-materialize it once it is out of your home! I don't know how they do that, but it has been reported by Dr. Malanga and other experts that this is what happens.

There is a film called "The Fourth Kind" which is actually a documentary of UFO abductions in a small town in Alaska. It is extremely frightening. The footage is not dramatized, but real - abductions and possessions caught on camera! I recommend that you watch if you haven't done so yet. It is frightening. But knowledge is power. It is better to know and be frightened than to remain ignorant. The more ignorant we are, the easier it is to become and remain prey.

I personally have had many experiences like the ones you reported above. I could fill a book about my personal experiences. You are not alone.

Those beings have been preying on us for probably nearly a million years. They are very clever. But we are starting to awaken and to remember. I'm sure they don't like this because it's so much easier to prey on someone who doesn't believe they exist. This kind of communication is very important because most of the humans on this planet are still very much asleep.

As a group, we are stronger than alone. We will get to the bottom of it somehow and find a way to keep them away.

Well, I am certain these two experiences were dreams but they were quite vivid and that makes me consider they could be very real experiences within the astral realm.

But hey, I am way past being afraid of these beings. There's nothing they can do to me anymore. Men in Black? Bring 'em on. I mean it. I may change my mind afterwards but for now, bring 'em on.

Last night I had a very vivid dream with George W. Bush. He even addressed me by name. It was a very positive dream. This is perhaps the 4th or 5th George W. Bush dream I have had. I have also had at least 4 Bill Clinton dreams. I have only had 1 Barack Obama dream. Anyways, they were always good dreams... like they knew me and for some weird reason seemed to respect me. Last night's dream was the first time I ever got addressed directly by name by any of the presidents. What's funny too is that I met with a cousin of mine today I have not seen in 35 or so years. He mentioned he has played golf a few times recently with "W" and said he is a really nice guy, and can be quite funny.

justone

[Houman]

From http://www.henrymakow.com/subterrane..._by_fritz.html


"Not only is our government focused on building deep secret cities, but so are Illuminati families."



by Fritz Springmeier
(henrymakow.com)


The beautiful artwork in ancient Spanish caves, or the catacombs in Rome remind us that man has always had an underground presence.

During the 1990's, my research repeatedly brought me in contact with individuals who stated that they had been in deep underground military bases.


Of course a number of these are openly admitted by the American government, for instance Cheyenne Mountain.

And many are not. I discovered that not only was our government focused on building deep secret cities, but the Illuminati families were also.

Furthermore, they were using technology that the public was unaware existed. The idea behind it all was to create safe and secret places for themselves.

Witnesses have described elevators going miles down, super-fast trains, back-up government agencies, genetic experiments, warehouses of stock piled materials, and a non-human human hybrid project.

But what continues to haunt me was the look one eyewitness gave me when he said, "Fritz, you don't have a clue. What is going on is beyond all you have thought of." And after that, there was a stoned-faced mask on his countenance.


DIAMOND HEAD

My first experience with this subject was when I was a fifth grader in Hawaii. On one field trip we were taken inside the iconic Diamond Head volcano where the government of Hawaii had an unused facility in case they needed to flee a nuclear holocaust.

I realized the government had placed their survival on a higher priority than the people they supposedly served. The rest of us sheeple were to be left to die. Your tax dollars at work.

The American government secretly received a boost in their abilities to build underground when they brought over Xaver Dorsh in Operation Paperclip. He was head of the Nazi's Todt Organization which built some incredibly sophisticated underground cities for the Nazis.

Bear in mind this organization had built the Autobahn for the Nazis far in advance of our Interstate system. The American and Russian governments have kept secret how sophisticated these underground Nazi cities were.



For years, I had tried to track these Deep Underground Military Bases and their purposes, doing such things as traveling to Dulce, NM. When I met Phil Snyder (left) who had worked on these bases, I was excited to compare my discoveries/info to his firsthand knowledge.
We were able to share information several times until he was suicided the day before we were to meet again. Afterwards, I placed my information on the 140 American DUMB bases in my Deeper Insights book in the middle of book between part 1 and part 2.

Different agencies have their own underground installations. That explains why there are so many.

The NSA, CIA, FEMA, Naval Intelligence, the Air force NORAD and others all need their own secret underground bases. Some of the work with strategic reserves, nuclear activities, secret weapons, communications and computers, and hardened defense structures are legitimate activities for underground bases.

And others, genetic manipulation (like cloning), individual mind control, population control, and lethal ways to kill populations, are not. We have truly lost control over our government. If you'll pardon the pun, it is truly out of oversight.


BLACK OPS

Area 51, NV (left) and White Sands Missile base, NM have been large tracts of land where underground installations have allowed for exotic black ops research. Unfortunately, the information that leaks out does not sound good.

These black ops are not projects for the public good. Many of them are downright scary. Some are bizarre like keeping a severed human head alive. And instead of being U.S. government projects, many of the levels on these bases actually belong to the Illuminati and their secret world government, which has been operating since 1954.

Besides vast tracts of land in sparsely populated regions, the ocean has become a grand place to locate secret bases.

What are some of these bases like? Some have facilities for growing food. Many are connected. Spokes link areas to other areas. Hi-tech camouflage and quick shutting entrances conceal the entrances. Witnesses claim non-human species inhabit the lower levels.

My personal take on these things is that this is a modern-day example of the Nephilim that were created by interbreeding in ancient times. So we are witnessing more apocalyptic signs.

The same shivers that ran down my spine as a ten year old student when I went into the underground city at Diamond Head volcano near Honolulu continue today when I contemplate these bases and their uses.

These bases are designed so the elite could survive a nuclear war or world-wide epidemic, or a natural disaster like an asteroid hit, reversal of the earth's pole, or a galactic dust cloud which they allow us to endure while they live in safety.

Whatever disaster they see coming, they are prepared.

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[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by Houman (here)

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)
Not sure if this will help all of those curious about Newton's work, but I just found this. Houman, what do you think about this material?

I am not familiar with it (I have to look into it) but it would seem that you and mountain_jim are doing a good job at investigating it...

Thank you, it is interesting how things appear when you shed new light on them. Looking at this material and being able to decipher, or read between the lines of these personal cases could be another piece to this puzzle.

Case 61
Kanno is a Japanese scientist who, years ago, came to the U.S. for his advanced education. Today he prefers a life of relative isolation in labo- ratories. He suffers from a poor immune system, a common complaint among hybrid soul clients. These people are negatively influenced by too-little experience with the human body and too many alien imprints carried over from their former existences. As I have said, it may take the hybrid soul many generations of earthly incarnations before a complete memory cleansing of old body energy patterns will take place. I began our session in my customary fashion, by regressing Kanno to the time when he was inside his mother's womb. This is a good place for a spiritual regressionist to start interacting with a client's soul. While inside his mother, my subject reported that he had trepidations about his coming birth stemming from his one prior life on Earth some 300 years ago in India. I continued the regression to Kanno's death scene in India and then we crossed into the spirit world. I will pick up the dia- logue with Kanno when he meets his guide, Phinus.

Dr. N: What does Phinus say to you?
S: She says, "Welcome back, how did you like the ride?" Dr. N: And what is your response?
S: Did it have to be so terrible?
Dr. N: Does she agree with your assessment of life in India?
S: Phinus reminds me that I volunteered to have a difficult opening life on F.arth because I wanted to receive the full impact of a dis- ruptive planet. I was the poorest of the poor in India and lived in squalor .
Dr. N: Did you want to suffer this much in your initial life?
S: The life was terrible and I didn't handle it well. When a childless family took my daughter against my will by paying the owner of the shack where I lived, I became so distraught I could not function. (Kanno jerks in his chair and emotionally relives the moments after his last death) WHAT KIND OF A PLANET IS THIS ANYWAY? PEOPLE SELLING CHILDREN!
Dr. N: (at this point I do not yet know about Kanno's hybrid origins and I make a wrong assumption) This does seem as though it was a very difficult first incarnation for a new soul on Earth.
S: Who said 1 was a new soul?
Dr. N: I'm sorry, Kanno. 1 just assumed that right now you are only in your second incarnation on Earth.
S: That's true, but I'm from another dimension.
Dr. N: (startled) Oh, then what can you tell me about this other dimension?
S: We had no physical worlds as you have in this dimension. My incarnations were on a mental world.
Dr. N: What did you look like on this world?
S: I had an elongated, flowing body—spongy, with no skeletal structure. We were rather transparent forms of silvery light.
Dr. N: Did you prefer a certain type of gender?
S: We were all hermaphrodites.
Dr. N: Kanno, please explain the difference between traveling to the dimension of your origins from the spirit world as opposed to coming into our universe.
S: In my dimension movement is like going through soft, translucent filaments of light. Coming into your universe is like plowing through thick, heavy, moisture-laden fog.
Dr. N: And being on Earth for the first time—what was that like compared to your home world?
S: Having concrete tied to your feet. The first thing you notice is the heavy weight of the dense energy here compared to a mental world, (pause) It isn't just heavy—it's coarse ... severe ... I was really jolted in that life in India.
Dr. N: Is all this a little better now—are you becoming acclimatized?
S: (without confidence) To some extent. It's still pretty difficult...
Dr. N: I can see that. Kanno, what is the most troubling aspect about the human brain for you?
S: (abruptly) Ahh—it's the impulsive behavior—the physical reaction to things—without analytical thought. There is danger in connecting with the wrong kind of human being, too ... treachery ... I can't deal with this.
Dr. N: (Kanno is sweating profusely and I quiet him now a bit before continuing) Tell me about your mental world. Does it have a name?
S: (pause) It's a sound which I can't re-create with my voice, (begins reminiscing) We float in a sea of gentle mental currents ... soft... playful... so unlike Earth.
Dr. N: Then why come here?
S: (with a deep sigh) I am studying to be an Explorer-teacher. Most of my associates are satisfied to confine their efforts to one dimension. I finally told Phinus I wanted broader experience with a hard world in a completely different zone of existence. She told me she had a senior colleague who recommended another dimension with a strenuous physical world that had a reputation for producing vigorous, insightful souls (with a gallows laugh)— once you survive the lessons. This was Earth.
Dr. N: Did you get the impression there were other choices open to you?
S: (shrugs) Guides don't give you many choices in such situations. Phinus said that when I completed my work on Earth I would be strengthened in ways my friends who refused such assignments would not be. She said Earth would also be quite interesting and I accepted that.
Dr. N: Did any of your friends come with you into our dimension?
S: (flatly) I do not know.
Dr. N: (cautiously) Well, is your home dimension next to ours? S: No, I must pass through three other dimensions to get here.
S: No, I was the only one who elected to go and I almost refused to return again in this life. My associates think I am very brave. They know if I make it, I'm going to be an effective traveler.
Dr. N: Let's talk about travel, Kanno. As an interdimensional traveler, you probably know if there is a finite number of dimensions around our physical universe.
Dr. N: Kanno, it would be helpful if you would try and describe what you see as you pass through these dimensions you are familiar with in your travels.
S: The first dimension is a sphere full of colors and violent explosions of light, sound and energy ... I think it is still forming. The next is black and empty—we call it the unused sphere. Then there is a beautiful dimension which has both physical and mental worlds composed of gentle emotion, tender elements and keen thought. This dimension is superior to my original dimension and your universe as well.
Dr. N: It's now your universe too, Kanno. Tell me, does the trip through the total of four dimensions take long?
S: No, quickly—like air particles passing through a filter.
Dr. N: Can you give me a sense of the structural design between these dimensions in relation to the spirit world? You described the dimensions as spheres. Why don't we start with that.
S: (long pause) I can't tell you much. Everything is ... in a circle around the center of the spirit world. Each of these universes appears to me to be an interlocking sphere with the next, as in a chain.
Dr. N: (after failing to gain more information) How are you getting on in our universe now, Kanno?
S: (rubbing his hand on his forehead) Better. I am learning how to discharge my energy in a steady, positive stream without depleting my reserve. It helps me to be away from people for long periods. I expect to really improve after a few more lives, but I am looking forward to completing my time here on Earth. Before leaving the realm of the Explorer Soul, I should add that this sort of training involves learning about the texture of intelligent energy. I am frustrated in not being able to discover more about the properties of this energy in motion on mental worlds. Some information comes to me from those souls who have had experience on physical worlds which are also considered mental, as demonstrated by the following condensed quote:
We visit the volcanic gas world of Crion to learn by assimilation. It is a mental world with outward physical attributes. Our group of Explorers float as blobs of fluid energy in a sea of gaseous substances. We are metamor-phic and able to change shape and form into the tiny beings whose life is centered around pure thought. There is absolute vibrational uniformity here, unlike Earth.

Souls who travel interdimensionally explain that their movements appear to be in and out of curved spheres connected by zones that are opened and closed by converging vibrational attunement. Explorer trainees have to learn this skill. From the accounts 1 have heard, the interdimensional travelers must also learn about the surface boundaries of zones connecting universes as hikers locating trailheads between mountain ranges. Souls speak of points, lines and surfaces in multi- space which indicate larger structural solids, at least for the physical universes. I would think dimensions having geometric designs need hyperspace to hold them. Yet Explorer Souls travel so fast in some sort of hyperspace it seems to me the essence of speed, time and direction of travel is hardly definitive. Training to be an Explorer must indeed be formidable, as indicated by this quote from a client who travels through five dimensions between her lives:

These dimensions are meshed with one another so that I have no sense of boundaries except for two elements, sound and color. With sound, I must learn to attune my energy to the vibrational frequency of each dimension, and some are so complex I can not yet go to them. With color, the purples, blues, yellows, reds and whites are manifestations of light and density for those energy particles in the dimensions where I travel.

[Houman]