Jesus the man / JESUS the Archon – inspired by Houman’s Horus-Ra thread

[Chester]

Posted by kreagle (here)
9eagle9,

You know, the title of this thread has been "very misleading", to say the least.

"If it had said,......."Charles the man/ CHARLES the Archon",.....or........"Billy the man/ BILLY the Archon",.......then I wouldn't have given this OP a "second thought."

I "thought" it had something to do with the "Jesus I knew",......and wanted "others" to know about also!!!

It didn't take long to find out that "this" OP, and the majority of the responses,.....have "very, very, little,......if anything to do with the "Jesus I know"!!
...

This thread has everything to do with Jesus as he is commonly and more fully known as Jesus Christ. I found many dozens of posts that were filled with Christ consciousness expressed individually. I am sorry that you seemed to miss those posts.

Anyways, the title of the thread is restricted by title length. If I had more room I may have included "Jesus the Christ example." Perhaps I left that one out hoping the thread will fill that hole without prompting (which it seems to have done dozens of times).

One thing that this thread succeeded in doing was to bring out the JESUS the Archon folks.

Another interesting possibility that has been explored in this thread is the - Yeshua the possible hybrid alien.

I already see this thread as quite successful and I have received several PMs of appreciation and additional information some are perhaps hesitant to post as it just seems to excite the archontically influenced posters.

justone

[Chester]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Then it just reduced down to me being an enemy of Jesus in THEIR book.

Archonic energies are only enemies if one doesn't understand the nature of how they operate. Understanding the psyche nature of how we operate certainly helps us to understands how they operate and thus can be avoided.

Its rather like avoiding the cops. If you want to avoid the cops don't drive 120 miles an hour through their speed traps.

my problem is I like driving 120 hahaha and I like kicking archontic butt too.

[observer]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by observer (here)
Jay Weidner speaks of an alchemical technique for avoiding the archons in the after death experience. The technique is referred to as, creating a light body and, according to Weidner, has been practiced by alchemists for eons of time.

There is much insight into the archon phenomenon in this William Henry interview with Jay Weidner:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oEVo2dddB_U

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oEVo2...ure=plpp_video

Hi observer - I saw your post last night... I began to listen to the interview quite late. I got interrupted several times and was unable to finish listening to the interview.

I went to sleep. Early in the morning I had a vivid dream where I saw someone handing me a glass of what appeared to be very thinned down blood perhaps. Then suddenly I realized it was actually urine that strangely had the component to blood in it. The urine was coming from me and I was either drinking it or supposed to drink it.

Just now I discovered the browser where I had been listening to the Jay Weidner interview and noticed I had not finished. I was at about 23:30 so I just now began to listen to the rest. At around 24:30 Jay begins to talk about the Light Body (that can be produced from an alchemical transformation) and that a particular ingredient is part of the formula - that ingredient being urine. The Light Body being the body we can transform into via the alchemical process which can overcome the archons.

Jay had just previously stated the Archons to be the very most serious problem humanity is facing. Houman's Horus-Ra thread seems to suggest this same thing and Bill Ryan has emphasized how critically important Houman's thread is. Now perhaps we can attain the Light Body through an alchemical process that includes the actual consumption of something we can ingest physically but my gut tells me that just as important (perhaps even more important) is an individual's ability to raise their consciousness.

Anyways, whenever I have experiences of highly unlikely probability such as my dream, the Weidner interview and the location I picked up again (about 1 minute prior to the discussion of the alchemical formula), I pay attention. Having said that... it is my suspicion that synchronicity has been used by archontic forces to mislead me as well. Whichever way it may be will be for me to find out, right? I just can't see playing safe... how boring.

It has long been my personal conclusion, justoneman, that the process of reincarnation, otherwise known as that ass-biting loop of birth-death-rebirth, is nothing more than a Soul Harvesting operation. I base this conclusion on the fact that very few of us recall a single thing of any former lifetime, yet the fact that most of us were here before is undeniable. The evidence for this is overwhelming.

That which is recognized as our eternal soul is harvested for the essence we have nurtured over the course of our lifetime, and a seed of our former soul is replanted in a new body to grow a new essence.... all for the reptilian life forms that control this prison planet as a soul farm.

I have dedicated my entire adult life to gaining an understanding of how this particular reality works, and this is my conclusion to date. I could bore the readers with thousands of hours of documentation, but for the sake of this dissertation, I'll forgo the links.

Throughout our known history, the Light of Love has been depicted as golden. There are many examples of this, but suffice it to mention here, halos, and sun gods.

It's my conclusion that the white light, and blue light, and indigo light so many archonic/reptilian influenced dogma refer to, is a false light and part of the soul-trap.

I believe the 'Light Body' that Weidner is referring to is golden in color. These are my conclusions, alone. I'm not presenting this as any sort of expert on this subject. Do with this information what you will....

-update-
Many years ago I read that the Philosopher's Stone was made by dehydrating urine into a white powder.

There is also the possibility that the white powder of monatomic gold is the Philosopher's Stone.

These are just two possibilities....

[9eagle9]

With the intention of writing a futuristic novella that was scientific in nature,I stumbled across the very thing that you did Observer.

Souls that were harvested to run a planet, a orbiting space station. The critical piece that arises from the varied details is that has been done with our agreement. Not conscious agreement perhaps but by making that agreement.

[heyokah]

It's interesting to read how Gurdjeiff thought about "soul harvesting"

From Lunacy & Feeding the Moon

“The moon at present feeds on organic life, on humanity ... this means that humanity is food for the moon. If all men were to become too intelligent they would not want to be eaten by the moon.” (Gurdjieff, in Ouspensky, 1949, p. 57)

The term soul is used here to refer to the fine matter/energies that serve as the vital or animating principle within the body. In a human, the soul may be highly underdeveloped, in which case it has few psychic properties. Gurdjieff portrays the fate of such souls eaten by the moon:

“The souls that go to the moon, possessing perhaps even a certain amount of consciousness and memory, find themselves there under ninety-six laws, in the conditions of mineral life, or to put it differently, in conditions from which there is no escape apart from a general evolution in immeasurably long planetary cycles. The moon is ‘at the extremity,’ at the end of the world; it is the ‘outer darkness’ of the Christian doctrine ‘where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’” (1949, p. 85)
In Beelzebub’s Tales, G. explains that many of the woes which have befallen humanity, relate to an early cosmic catastrophe which occurred when a comet collided with the earth and broke off two fragments, the moon and a secondary moon unknown to us. After this, the sacred vibrations Askokin were required to be sent to the moons in order to maintain them. However, as humans developed, the possibility was raised that they might attain Objective Reason, as usually occurs among three-brained beings within other solar systems. In this case, they would realize the “stupendous terror” of their position–that by their existence, their lives and death, they are simply maintaining the moon. If humans realized the horror of the situation and their slavery to the moon, they might “be unwilling to continue their existence and would on principle destroy themselves.” (1950, p. 88) It was for this reason, that the accursed organ Kundabuffer was implanted in humans, so that they would perceive reality topsy-turvy and be conditioned simply by sensations of pleasure and enjoyment.
Although the organ kundabuffer was latter removed, its effects on humankind’s psyche had become crystallized in their presences, and passed from generation to generation. A number of particularly destructive processes were then observed on planet earth, including increases in the birthrate and the emergence of warfare–the process of reciprocal destruction. Beelzebub describes this horror to his grandson:

“... it was possible sometimes to observe very strange manifestations of theirs, that is, from time to time they did something which was never done by three-brained beings on other planets, namely, they would suddenly, without rhyme or reason, begin destroying one another’s existence. ... from this horrible process of theirs their numbers rapidly diminished ... .” (1950, p. 91)
Wars and animal sacrifice are particularly horrific processes which produce a surplus of the Sacred Askokin vibrations, threatening not only the evolution of the moon and its atmosphere, but also, the broader cosmic harmony.
Beelzebub explains that although the moon eventually became stabilised, varied Most High Sacred Individuals then made other cosmic adjustments in order that the Sacred Askokin be produced through other means. In particular, this sacred substance exists in a state blended with two other sacred substances “Abrustdonis” and “Helkdonis,” but must be released in order to feed the moon. These substances are in fact those substances by which the Kesdjan (or astral) body and the mental body (or the body of the Soul) are formed and perfected. Unfortunately again, these sacred substances are only separated through being efforts–conscious labours and intentional sufferings, or being Parktdolg duties, which are seldom fulfilled given the general degradation of the human psyche and the deterioration of the quality of vibrations given off by humankind.

And so, woe to humanity, through the processes of reciprocal destruction, declining longevity and death, the poor souls produce the vibrations required to maintain the moons. The souls feed the moon and the nuts become fertilizer. The inner cosmos of a human being is intimately connected with the larger cosmos of the solar system and even the universe.

[RedeZra]

Posted by justoneman (here)
What saddens me is that I would bet both of these posters are good folks but sadly are so heavily under the archontic spell, "they know not what they do" so I suggest we not only forgive them but that we kindly point out the likelihood they are not only not helping others, they are actually one of the rank and file prison guards that have humanity trapped in this mind prison.

buddy have you broken the archontic spell and now feel free to tell who is under the spell

do you know the meaning of life ?


the Bible provides a coherent explanation about the Creator and the creation

backed up by facts artifacts and testimonies


God did not leave us in the dark but spelled it out for us in the Scripture

[heyokah]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
What saddens me is that I would bet both of these posters are good folks but sadly are so heavily under the archontic spell, "they know not what they do" so I suggest we not only forgive them but that we kindly point out the likelihood they are not only not helping others, they are actually one of the rank and file prison guards that have humanity trapped in this mind prison.

buddy have you broken the archontic spell and now feel free to tell who is under the spell

do you know the meaning of life ?


the Bible provides a coherent explanation about the Creator and the creation

backed up by facts artifacts and testimonies


God did not leave us in the dark but spelled it out for us in the Scripture

Dear brother,

Isn't it the meaning of life, at this very moment, for you to go on a holiday again, for at least a month?
You could take a good book with you perhaps.

Love,
Sister heyokah

[observer]

Posted by heyokah (here)
It's interesting to read how Gurdjeiff thought about "soul harvesting"

From Lunacy & Feeding the Moon

“The moon at present feeds on organic life, on humanity ... this means that humanity is food for the moon. If all men were to become too intelligent they would not want to be eaten by the moon.” (Gurdjieff, in Ouspensky, 1949, p. 57)
[....snip]

Thank you heyokah for pointing-out that Gurdjieff was reporting soul harvesting activities on the moon.

This is collaborating evidence to what John Lear is reporting regarding the "Soul Catcher" on the Moon. John has said in several interviews there is a 5 mile high tower in Sinus Medii (LO-3-84M) on the Moon that always points directly at the Earth.

Nigel Kerner is another researcher who speaks of the soul harvesting operation on the Moon.

Both John and Nigel attribute the operation to the grays, but we are all aware these gray aliens are merely biological robots under control of the reptiles/archons.

[9eagle9]

Yeah really JustOne, its not like you have to tell us; we can see it for ourselves!

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
What saddens me is that I would bet both of these posters are good folks but sadly are so heavily under the archontic spell, "they know not what they do" so I suggest we not only forgive them but that we kindly point out the likelihood they are not only not helping others, they are actually one of the rank and file prison guards that have humanity trapped in this mind prison.

buddy have you broken the archontic spell and now feel free to tell who is under the spell

do you know the meaning of life ?


the Bible provides a coherent explanation about the Creator and the creation

backed up by facts artifacts and testimonies


God did not leave us in the dark but spelled it out for us in the Scripture

[observer]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
[....snip]
the Bible provides a coherent explanation about the Creator and the creation

backed up by facts artifacts and testimonies (emphasis added by observer)


God did not leave us in the dark but spelled it out for us in the Scripture

Dear Red, my brother,

I have been following your threads all the way back to the Old Avalon Forum. I have offered you many opportunities to seek a better understanding of Biblical History with many hours of links to theologically sound Biblical interpretations for your review, as have many others on this forum. Your response has regularly been that you don't bother to read alternate Biblical interpretations.

• The record available to anyone living within this reality validates not one single "fact" found in the Bible.
• In all you have commented, in all the threads in which you participate, you have not offered one single credible "artifact" that in any way validates YOUR fundamentalists interpretation of the Bible.
• And the "testimonies" you refer to are all based in faith, not in fact.

As cloudno7 so eloquently pointed-out in your Bible Thread, "it's just a book"

Posted by cloudno7 (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GBLyvp0_00w

So, from the depth of my heart, and with all the love I can express,
please, "sit-down, it's just a book".

[RedeZra]

Posted by heyokah (here)
Dear brother,

Isn't it the meaning of life, at this very moment, for you to go on a holiday again, for at least a month?
You could take a good book with you perhaps.

Love,
Sister heyokah

i would love to break your brainwashing

but the devil has done a good job

so i don't think i can


and i don't think you will

[9eagle9]

Your god then isn't as all powerful as you'd like to 'think' then eh?

Devil wins again.

This is what we get for thinking....

[Hervé]

As for the Moon, who knows if many of the "DUMBs" are not in fact located THERE?

Especially when considering that one just needs to step into an "elevator" to find oneself stepping out of it at Pine gap or somewhere on Mars....

Here, from someone who "visited" there:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

From someone who's been there, done that... Ingo Swann in his book "Penetration":

As I have discussed in other writings, I have always been interested in Psi phenomena, and beginning in 1970 it chanced that opportunities to extend that interest in depth were made available. Anyone with more than a mere superficial interest in Psi phenomena must of course encounter the rather smelly morass of social resistance whereby the authenticity of those phenomena are methodically deconstructed, thus suspending them in doubt.

This social resistance, even if smelly, has largely been successful in destroying all concerted approaches to Psi phenomena. This success is specifically active within high strata of societal power, and which strata are otherwise entirely disinterested in what lesser mortals DO experience along these lines. Why it is that governing societal factors need to deconstruct the provable existence of at least some vital Psi phenomena is therefore something that needs to be examined and understood.

Along these lines of inquiry, the existence and methods of the machinations against Psi development can easily be brought to light. But the reasons that govern the implementation of the machinations none the less remain obscured.

Thus, the societal resistance to Psi breaks neatly into two aspects:

· to prevent Psi development
· to keep obscure the actual reasons for doing so

One reason for the blanket suppression which has been offered up by many before me is that effective formats of Psi would disturb any number of social institutions. Those institutions would feel “threatened” by developed formats of, say, telepathy, which might thereafter be utilized to penetrate their secrets.

[...]

As it happened, however, the events described in Part One of this book occurred beginning in 1975. These are the events I can’t prove. None the less they made somewhat visible another possible aspect that might be factored into the odiferous suppression of Psi that was already familiar to me.

This aspect required that I introduce two unusual terms: Earth-side and Space-side.

These refer, of course, to Earth-side intelligence and Space-side intelligence. The central hypothesis of this book is that if developed Psi potentials would be an invasive threat to Earth-side intelligences, then developed Earth-side Psi would also be a threat to Space-side intelligences. After all, in that telepathy, for example, is invasively defined as reading minds, the distinction between reading Earth-side minds and Space-side minds would be very narrow.

The only real problem in considering this is whether or not Space-siders exist.

[...]

In accumulating this information package, it became possible for me to make the following and quite basic observation, an observation that is easy enough to substantiate.

Telepathy is the most forbidden element of Earth-side consciousness. Indeed, so forbidden that Science would rather accept reincarnation, the existence of the soul, and life after death - PROVIDED those situations DID NOT include any telepathic possibility.

[...]

The work (in developing remote viewing) was largely funded by the U.S. intelligence agencies. Because of this, many Washington types and many noted scientists visited SRI. Very many of them met only with my colleagues, and refused to meet little Moi, so much so that they would not even take lunch with me.

The reason: “Jesús, he can read my mind! I can’t let him get anywhere near me.”

This quote is NOT paraphrased. One of the amusing aspects of this is that IF telepathy is what it is, then one not needs to be in the proximity of a telepath in order to have their mind penetrated. Another amusing aspect is that the funding agencies did sponsor the secret developmental work in remote viewing - somewhat on the grounds that it penetrates things, not minds.

This is to say that remote viewing pertains to penetration of “physicals,” not to penetration of “mentals.” In any event, the principal reason why ALL formats of Psi research are marginalized, treated to energetic diminishment, or suppressed altogether is that those formats do include potentials too near the hated and unwanted telepathic faculties. So, the whole barn of psychic research must be burnt down as quickly as possible, making sure that the telepathic horses don’t escape.

There is one notable exception to this, and one utilized for creative cover-up purposes. This exception involves the discovery of approaches to telepathy most noted either for the fact that they DO NOT work, or because they serve to disorient and defeat approaches that MIGHT work. Thus, the concept that telepathy is a mind-to-mind thing involving a sender and a receiver has been given extraordinary publicity - and has in fact become the principal Earth-side cultural model for it.


Intellectual phase-locking into this non-productive model is so intense and so widespread that Earth-siders literally cannot think of telepathy in any other way. With the exception of some few experiments in the former Soviet Union, and in the Peoples Republic of China, the sender-receiver model has not yielded anything more than slightly above-chance results.

[kreagle]

Posted by Katari Rose (here)
jesus Christ is the most powerful symbol on earth for what we are capable of as humans, given grace by God. How could such a profound symbol exist in teh human psyche the world over if it was never an actual reality at some time? Words, documents and evidence can be dstroyed and altered, knowing about Christ from personal experience is the only thing which will cease your need to prove him from a book

Katari Rose,

I couldn't agree with you more.

We also would not have seen such "vicious and prolonged" attacks on His Word,.....if It wasn't as "factual" and "Heavenly Inspired" as It has always been! If it were,....."just another book",......It would have been destroyed and buried forever from the "memories of mankind". Has mankind,.....by satanic means,....endeavored to "change it",...."water it down", etc.? Yes,.....yes,.....and again,....yes, indeed. Thanks to God,.....He has still given us a "pure version",.....available to the "hungry",.....despite the best efforts of the Vatican and other evil forces.

Love and Peace,......kreagle

[Hervé]

As for "soul harvesting" there is a handy-dandy way of achieving it (see this post):

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Remember these?:

Posted by Houman (here)
[...]

From my sketchbook: The Stasis Tubes


[...]


Clearly, there is ample evidence of the existence of these stasis tubes.

[...]

I am glad these "memories" are finally surfacing all over the place in which abductees often run into their "clone(s)" in one or more of these "stasis tubes".

Well, there is a slightly different perspective on these containers and their uses.

A perspective that has been ridiculed, trampled with scoffing criticisms; in short cointelpro-ed by any and all means available to the letter agencies and others when the truthful reality of something is closely approached, as exhibited with whistle blowers or the battles of debunkings / counter-debunking displayed all over the world-wide-web.

Keep the above in mind when running into the name of the author of the following first published in 1952!:

Bodies in pawn

Bodies in pawn result from an ancient "very gruesome experience" in which:

a fellow is grabbed, hypnotized, shoved into an electronic field, and then told he is somewhere else. And so he departs—most of him—and goes to the new location while still being under control of the implanters. He picks up a MEST [Matter-Energy-Space-Time = physical] body in the new location and starts living a life there, while still having a living body somewhere else. The implanters can keep his original body alive indefinitely, and control the thetan through it. If the thetan tries to flee, the hypnotizers simply cause pain to the original body, still alive in a vat of fluid, and he is immediately recalled. That's a BODY IN PAWN. It's a second body you may have, living somewhere else, right in present time. But the second body is not under YOUR direct control.
(Source magazine #105, pg.39, 1997; see also Hubbard, Research and Discovery Series vol. 10)

They can apparently cause major problems for people undergoing medical operations, as "pain, an anaesthetic or a serious accident cause him to change to the other area with a shocking impact on the other body. The other body quite commonly dies or is deranged by the sudden impact." This gives the patient a repressed feeling of having died and leaves him "very, very badly disturbed." (Scientology: A History of Man)

Now, that perspective gives off a wealth of clues regarding:

• Voodoo
• Parallel universes
• NDEs
• Time lines
• Soul transfers
• Add your own...

Voodoo: Where would one think the idea of pocking needles and nails into a substitute body to keep the intended recipient in line comes from?

Parallel universes: Having memories of living in two or more places at the same time.

NDEs: "Sorry pal, you've got to go back to that messed up body of yours because something happened to the one we had here... the container broke...."

Soul transfers: Easy as pie: Standard Political Operating Procedure... with post-hypnotic commands of misbehaving with the new walk-in body: "Go take control of the body of that president's wife and get her to like having s&x with little boys and girls and we'll get your husband from here to do the same with your new husband over there so we can blackmail them all." The internecine battles of secret societies....

Sci-Fi? Think again! Where do you think most of these Sci-Fi writers get their "inspirations" from? Particularly the popular ones, since they strike a few resonant chords in most people long memory.

Think of the many "super-soldiers" now coming out from under the woodpile and recounting their "dream-state" intense training in which there is no fear of anything whatsoever.

It seems to me that that's the technology that was imparted to the militaries of this planet, the ones dreaming of perfect robotic soldiers with no fear to die... hey, they've got a spare body somewhere!


Now, for the main difficulty most researchers in that field are unaware of.

The major difficulty, apart from screen memories, is that similar experiences get all lumped up together in one individual's mind. Hence there might be an actual current happening of abductions getting mixed up with past ones as recounted by Truman Cash... or not. But the now widespread reporting of UFO and abduction occurrences may be enough to strike those resonant chords of past long memories and bring them to the here and now for the individual, triggering them into enactment of past traumas.

So, for those following this thread, welcome to the mind's mine field!

So... soul havesting doesn't seem to be a problem since one is automatically drawn back to that other "body" or piece of possesion and manipulated through it.

Probably the origin of that "detachment" philosophy advocated to end the endless cycle of birth-life-death... rinse memory / repeat.

Technological voodoo if you ask me.

[observer]

It's almost as if we were in a Monty Python sketch. We're trying our best to have a rational discussion regarding archons, and a gaggle of Vikings keep piping-in, spam, spam, spam:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

https://youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

My sentiments go with the waitress behind the counter....

[jorr lundstrom]

There seem to be humans who experience divinity without any

religious hero to give the credit for the experience. And there

seem be those who cant even imagine divinity without a perso-

nality. Ive only expeienced divinity as an unpersonal tremendous

field. Im very glad that I have no image of a person to project

into my experiencing. There seem to be a basic idea that you

dont create images of the divine, even if its common in many

religions. Some buddhist have a saying: "If you meet buddha

on the way, kill him immedeatly, otherwise he will kill you.

In christianity it seems to be very important to have a strong

image of Jesus as there are images all over. This is very

dangerous as when you die, and leave the physical body you

take that image with you. Any being you meet can mirror

that image and capture you. Jesus is only a pawn in the game.

The schamans know this and

give the identity they have created themselves from their

imagined lifestory to consciusness instead of their awareness

and transcend consciousness into infinite freedom.

I think this is one of the best kept secrets in christianity, kept

secret for obvious reasons for those who knows ie those who

have made the journey into infinity with their awareness not

polluted with any images.


I did like Dylan in his early years, when he didnt have a clue

wot he sang about. LOL

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FEAV6KeI-oo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FEAV6KeI-oo


All is well


Jorr

[heyokah]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by heyokah (here)
Dear brother,

Isn't it the meaning of life, at this very moment, for you to go on a holiday again, for at least a month?
You could take a good book with you perhaps.

Love,
Sister heyokah

i would love to break your brainwashing

but the devil has done a good job

so i don't think i can


and i don't think you will

OK, here we go, for the last time.

I will follow my own advice

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Na675QXAtS4

[observer]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
As for "soul harvesting" there is a handy-dandy way of achieving it (see this post):
[....snip]

Not only what Houman posted, Amer Zo, but how about the embalming and burial process required by law here in most of the U.S. And, what do you think the mummification process of the Egyptians (and many other ancient civilizations) was all about.

The bodies in containers found in the hives of those archons are just another example of how our souls are trapped in this particular reality.... some by choice, others by circumstance.

It's all different perspectives on the same phenomenon.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
fine i have said what is in my heart so i leave this thread to you

Good idea .

Different threads examine different view points ... you've posted some 35 posts on this thread with your alternative view point. That's quite enough I think. Thanks.