Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

[Chester]

Just imagine a center created by some of the "clued in" where a practicing satanist could go to get off the sauce - imagine if one at a time, they stop "drinking"... but that is just the first step, they then begin a program where they can reclaim their soul which allows them to reclaim all four primary components of a mortal being which is spirit, mind, soul and body. I would quit everything in my life to go live at that center and help those folks. I am certain many others would too.

They could remain anonymous... just have a desire to stop.

Imagine if by doing so, the food supply on earth becomes no longer palatable to the non earthly beings that consume our "loosh" - perhaps they go elsewhere... or perhaps even they themselves have to consider a desire to stop "drinking"

just imagine...

justone

[Houman]

It is a complex story...
Satanism is based on the worship and emulation of these entities...
according to Fritz Springmeier many satanists would like to get out but fear is keeping them in line (he has helped some to get out)...
many people are unaware of the fact that they have a satanist alter going to rituals...
(some of these people have a Christian front alter)...
some people have been demonized before birth (through moon child rituals, etc...)
...

Posted by justoneman (here)
Just imagine a center created by some of the "clued in" where a practicing satanist could go to get off the sauce - imagine if one at a time, they stop "drinking"... but that is just the first step, they then begin a program where they can reclaim their soul which allows them to reclaim all four primary components of a mortal being which is spirit, mind, soul and body. I would quit everything in my life to go live at that center and help those folks. I am certain many others would too.

They could remain anonymous... just have a desire to stop.

Imagine if by doing so, the food supply on earth becomes no longer palatable to the non earthly beings that consume our "loosh" - perhaps they go elsewhere... or perhaps even they themselves have to consider a desire to stop "drinking"

just imagine...

justone

[Chester]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
In the interest of connecting dots:

Camelot's Henry Deacon sent me this image (not a real photo!) back in 2007, and said that the Anunnaki -- who he insisted were still active on and around Planet Earth in present time -- were masters of ritual and ceremony, and many of their craft had these winged appendages to them. Henry knew this.

My understanding (from Henry) was that the wings were retractable, ornamental/symbolic and non-functional -- possibly (purely my own conjecture) to impress local Earth inhabitants back in Sumerian times.
...

And to connect further dots as brought forth by Houman on another thread via an apparent expert on Zoroastrianism - it was Zoroastrianism that set the table for the "savior" that occurred 2,000 years ago and whether or not an actual man lived which became the legend Jesus... it is possible that the "savior" tag the man got was simply a further development of the program run by these beings that visited Zoroaster.

http://zoroastrian.angelfire.com/

So there could have been a highly enlightened man which, because of the pre publicity, was deemed to be the expected first of three messiah beings and the poor guy (if he even existed) had no clue what they would make of his life. I might add there are many folks that deemed the true savior was actually John the Baptist - still another variation of this possible program. I know I focus on this more than some folks may like, but imagine if the actual truth was Jesus never existed or was just some guy who got caught up in the energies of the times and all the story stuff so many buy into today is all nothing but complete fiction.

The general consensus is that about a 1/3rd of the world's population is christian - mind blowing is the possibility it was all just a creation of some obsessed ETs.

If a gun were put to my head and I had to bet if this was true or not, I would bet it was an ET creation.

justone

[Chester]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

there absolutely is a difference but the difference is still within a larger, fully encompassing group where the operative word is "manipulated." If we get caught up in dividing up the group as to how we judge the situation, we play into the hands of the archons who are adept at divide and conquer.

It's a problem humanity faces... as a whole. And humanity holds all life on Earth hostage until we resolve the problem.

[Hervé]

From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

[161803398]

It doesn't necessarily take a depraved sick mind to be capable of torture. That's the problem.

[jorr lundstrom]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

there absolutely is a difference but the difference is still within a larger, fully encompassing group where the operative word is "manipulated." If we get caught up in dividing up the group as to how we judge the situation, we play into the hands of the archons who are adept at divide and conquer.

It's a problem humanity faces... as a whole. And humanity holds all life on Earth hostage until we resolve the problem.

Seen from the archons point of view they seem quite satisfied with
their divide and conquer game going on inside the power pyramid.

if they succed ultimately in that game they are left with the 1%
psychopaths at the top to manipulate. And those dont seem to
mind turning themselves into cyborgs with most of their bodyparts
changed against mechanical devices becoming even more
like the archons. But noone left to screw. LOL Its like Mr Anderson
when he realize that with Neo gone, he is gone too. The analogy
with AA and alcoholics isnt so good as a sober alcoholic can live
a happy life, as his/ her problem is strongly connected to a doing
ie drinking. The problem with the psychopaths isnt a problem of
doing ie its a problem of being. There are no psychopaths who
doesnt generate a psychopathic behaviour because thats his/her way
of dealing with life and other people. In the alcohlolic anology this would
be that the alcoholic cant quit drinking because thats all life consists
of. We know this isnt true, because there are many sober alcoholics.

The solution seem to be found among this 1% humans who are
outside the pyramid and cant be divided by manipulation.

In my point of view we cant count on any solutions coming from the
99% inside the pyramid, they are all totally occupied with fighting
an inside civil war, postponing life. it is those who are running in
circles today, stating they are looking for a way out, but are too
afraid to actually get out and stand on their own feet. Who prefer
to sit in their own garbage can rather than living. They are just in
for the free ride.


All is well


Jorr

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Houman (here)
As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

This is correct.

In Dr Bill Deagle's extraordinary Dec 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (Part 3) he identifies the root problem. He refers to the real protagonists as Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities.

And Truman is right: Scientology techniques do deal very effectively with this difficult stuff, but do not go anywhere near the Church of Scientology... they were taken over back in the late 70s/ early 80s.

(See http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html for further information about this.)

[Jean-Luc]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)
...
If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

...

(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

{edit to add}
*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)

Having worked hard into the relatively simple & straightforward 911 arena for years (http://www.vigli.org) with the limited results that we know in terms of general awareness (well, perhaps not all that bad after all...), I would tend to agree with you, Dennis, that the task here seems to be beyond human forces.

Yet you should perhaps take the time to read Truman's booth books before any definitive jugdment and then ask yourself the question: Given this new awareness, what do we do with that?
(BTW, that's one the reason I think a life interview with Truman would be very valuable to bring this human touch in order to widen the audience, including internationnaly).

Personnaly, and beyond the difficult to apprehend abduction phenomenon (so prone to ridicule, the #1 weapon of disinformation), I feel the biggest compassion for young innocent 'systemic' victims from these sordid rituals. Probably more even than for other daily casualties from so-called suicide bombings for which I cannot do much.

I heard that pedo-pornography was on the rise like at no time before.

Although it can be a separate issue with respect to some of the most sordid facts related in this thread, I think that any well documented light and solid evidence given on these issues can be of help.

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Midnight (here)
Maybe it's because I'm getting older, the chapter in Truman Cash's The Eye of Ra that I was most interested in is titled, "In-Between Lives Implants and Out Of Body Abductions".

In this chapter, Truman describes how he (we?) are trapped.

He used to be a "free being" who could incarnate (or not), but he was seduced by Earthly pleasure and joined the ranks of the trapped. And then he experiences the same sequence recalled in several sessions that describes his death and his soul leaving his body.

He is sucked (probably electromagnetically) into a tunnel of light which pulls him to an implant station, a big round sphere. His first several lives he is squeezed into a body in the light room, and later placed in a capsule and sent down to Earth (as an adult,I believe.) In later lives, he enters his mother's womb in the conventional manner.



But in both scenarios, there is an insectoid creature that appears in the LIGHT room as a loving light being, but that is only because it manipulated his mind. Before sending him on his new life, this being erased his previous life's memories, and then programmed his mind with loving thoughts about God, and with the idea "Always return to the light".

I hope my summary of this process is correct. Elements of this account are consistent with other accounts I have read. It's one more testimony that I will keep in mind as I struggle to understand the concept of the matrix, the loosh farm, etc.

Mr. Cash, perhaps you could answer several questions I have. I realize you might not be able to, because these memories were retrieved through hypnotic sessions.

1. Do you think the implant stations were physical structures, or were they "astral" in nature?

2. Do you believe that only the Chosen Ones, those that have been abducted over a number of lives by the 4 ET groups, are subject to the entrapment procedure that you described, or that ALL humans are processed by ETs in the implant stations?

3. At the end of The Eye of Ra, you say, "Yes, I believe that the truth could indeed set us free". My question is how could knowledge of the Trap System negate the powerful electromagnetic force that sucks you into the tunnel of light which leads to the implant station? You also say earlier in the chapter that, "I do believe that we have the potential for recovering our ability as powerful spiritual beings". I also believe this, but the amnesia we are programmed with makes this recovery a VERY tough challenge. How to meet that challenge is the question.

Whether you chose to respond to this post or not, I really appreciate your contribution to this and other forums, Mr. Cash.

Thank you for your questions, Midnight. Most of the memories detailed in my books were retrieved using non-hypnotic methods.

1. The implant stations that I discuss in THE EYE OF RA are actual physical structures. It is also interesting to note that I discovered that Ra was using the same kind of flying disk that was used by the Mantis beings in the implant stations. Furthermore, immediately following my lifetime as Ramses II I was placed in a new human body in the implant station and brought to the Great Pyramid in one of these craft to become the high priest. This reveals a working relationship between the human-looking ETs that estabished most of the planet's religions and secret societies and the Mantis beings that operate the implant stations.

2. I don't think that just the so-called "chosen ones" experience implant stations. It appears that the going-to-the-light phenomenon in NDEs is a function of these implant stations vis-a-vis Earth. We also are aware of the phenomenon called "ghosts" that may hang around in the house that they used to live in--that is, spiritual beings who are just hanging out and not getting a new body right away. So I don't think this is something that happens to everyone all of the time.

Also, from a much broader perspective, we as spiritual beings have been around for a very long time when we look at it from a linear time stream perspective. Implant stations have also been around for a very long time in this universe. Therefore, recovering memories of being on implant stations is a common phenomenon amongst those who engage in extensive past life therapy.

3. It is not enough to just be aware that implant stations exist and that they implant amnesia as well. It is my experience and viewpoint that the truth does set one free but one has to address one's own truth individually. One needs to remember one's own experiences in order to disable past life and in-between lives programming. This is why past life therapy can be so valuable in liberating someone from past programming (implants) so that one can recover spiritual abilities and awareness and be more in the present time. There are also other areas to address to recover spiritual abilities and ultimately conquer amnesia. There are various methods to address these concerns and they are available on this planet at this time.

Truman L. Cash

[jorr lundstrom]

Is it possible that we agree on that even if the impulses comes
from "Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities", " Archons" or wotsoever
we prefer to call those enteties, who manipulate people to do these
things that we cant accept, to other people,its still people, who do
these things?
or, shall we mix up wots behind those actions with the one who
perform the actions?
I thought the Nurnberg trial once and for all made it clear that
everyone is responsable for wot we actually do, regardless of
wot made us do it.
I think its important that we get aware of how these entities
functions as I suppose we cant wipe them out of existence
totally.
Then if some people actually prefer to be guided by those
enteties, because this supports their own agendas is actually
another problem.


All is well


Jorr

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

This is correct.

In Dr Bill Deagle's extraordinary Dec 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (Part 3) he identifies the root problem. He refers to the real protagonists as Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities.

And Truman is right: Scientology techniques do deal very effectively with this difficult stuff, but do not go anywhere near the Church of Scientology... they were taken over back in the late 70s/ early 80s.

(See http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html for further information about this.)

Bill, thanks for mentioning the takeover of Scientology and that people should steer clear of the church. Thanks also for the link to the Dane Tops interview on Project Camelot. I have been hearing some personal horror stories of people who have left the Church of Scientology and I am aware that the technology that Ron Hubbard developed has been twisted and perverted in the church.

I agree with Dane Tops that this was intentional in order to give the church and L. Ron Hubbard a bad reputation so as to deter people from regaining their innate spiritual abilities and awareness--certainly not something that the Illuminati would want.

Fortunately, there are people who left the church who are still using and teaching Ron Hubbard's original techniques and discoveries. As you know, these independent people usually operate under the names "Ron's Org" or "FreeZone".

TLC

[Chester]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Is it possible that we agree on that even if the impulses comes
from "Hyperdimensional Demonic Entities", " Archons" or wotsoever
we prefer to call those enteties, who manipulate people to do these
things that we cant accept, to other people,its still people, who do
these things?
or, shall we mix up wots behind those actions with the one who
perform the actions?
I thought the Nurnberg trial once and for all made it clear that
everyone is responsable for wot we actually do, regardless of
wot made us do it.
I think its important that we get aware of how these entities
functions as I suppose we cant wipe them out of existence
totally.
Then if some people actually prefer to be guided by those
enteties, because this supports their own agendas is actually
another problem.


All is well


Jorr

Jorr, you seem to make a lot of black and white assumptions. It's important to be open minded. Haven't you ever heard of this type of thing? -

A bank president and his family are abducted by a band of thieves. The thieves threaten to murder the bank president's family unless he takes some of the thieves to the bank and opens the safe for them.

In this case, is the bank president "guilty" of assisting the thieves in robbing the bank? Technically, he is. Should he hang?

Another situation to bring to your attention is the effects of a drug known in Colombia as Borrachero - technically known as scopolamine. Watch this video and then tell me if the folks who were victims of others who used this drug on them should be convicted and hung for their actions?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RLfWDXKcFYo

Consider if you were born into a family which was a satanic family and you were raised to be a satanist, part of you (an alter) having full knowledge of what you are doing... but the other parts of you do not. How responsible are you for your actions?

Now consider if, indeed there are non physical (sometimes known as EDs) entities that have technologies such that they can abduct you, implant you with both physical implant devices as well as non-physical mind implants and you commit crimes incited by instructions received through these implants, how responsible are you?

It's not a black or white issue. But it is clearly something that effects ALL humanity. To weed out those amongst humanity who have some conscious clue as to their culpability in commission of heinous crimes of a satanic nature and not apply the more appropriate understanding of what we likely are dealing with - by dealing with the problem by solely holding these folks personally responsible in a manner they are treated as criminals will never ever allow us the capability in solving the problem for humanity. These folks need treatment - and it is quite similar to alcoholism in that it is a disease of the multi-faceted complex being we are - one that possesses 4 distinct components (at least) - the body, the mind, the soul and the spirit.

justoneopinion

[AnthonyBacala]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

Justone,

Mark Johnson is excellent! I have had personal contact with him recently during a group past life regression he hosted. Being that I recently came into the role of guardian for an "old" crystal skull, I was highly interested in how this connected with my past lives and other events. I found him online, and it turned out that he was scheduled to arrive from Dallas to New Orleans merely weeks later...a true synchronicity.

We spent hours together after the group regression, talking about experiences with ED's and other pyschic experiences, and much more. He was very genuine, and has had a wonderful background in the field of hypnosis. His father was also a hypnotherapist. I believe your regression with him will be highly beneficial, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you wish to share from this meeting.

Best of luck,

Anthony

[Chester]

Posted by AnthonyBacala (here)

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

Justone,

Mark Johnson is excellent! I have had personal contact with him recently during a group past life regression he hosted. Being that I recently came into the role of guardian for an "old" crystal skull, I was highly interested in how this connected with my past lives and other events. I found him online, and it turned out that he was scheduled to arrive from Dallas to New Orleans merely weeks later...a true synchronicity.

We spent hours together after the group regression, talking about experiences with ED's and other pyschic experiences, and much more. He was very genuine, and has had a wonderful background in the field of hypnosis. His father was also a hypnotherapist. I believe your regression with him will be highly beneficial, and I'm looking forward to hearing what you wish to share from this meeting.

Best of luck,

Anthony

WoW Anthony! Thanks for this post... it raises even further my early gut confidence in Mark.

Is that a picture of the crystal skull you have as your Avatar pic?

[Chester]

Posted by justoneman (here)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

Yaldabaoth, called also Saklas and Samael
Saturn.
Feminine name: Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, "week".
Prophets:[9] Moses, Joshua, Amos, Habakkuk.
From Hebrew yalda bahut, "Child of Chaos"? The outermost who created the six others, and therefore the chief ruler and Demiurge par excellence. Called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides.

Hi Folks - the above is a quote out of a post I made yesterday. As a demonstration of how I have experienced the archontic energies note in my original post that I named the 7 archons and specifically italicized the chief archon intentionally as this is the term used in the Nag Hammadi for the primary "bad guy" which mant of us are aware is known as satan today.

EDIT: note in my last sentence I somehow mispelled the word, "most" as "mant." "Most" is not even close to "mant"s yet somehow I wrote mant. Why I am telling the reader about this is because I am reading in Truman Cash's Eye of Ra and had asked myself specifically (less than 2 hours ago) who the "mantis" creatures might be as somehow my intuition suggested they are in fact the specific ones behind the Ra alien intelligence and that this very same intelligence is like the top dog archonic expressions... perhaps the beings that inspire us to know the being "satan"... now read the rest of my post.

I just happened to be searching for this post a second ago as I wanted to refer to it in a document I am creating - this by clicking on a post number, one can bring up the link that goes straight to a specific post. For that reason I noticed the post number - 696... not quite 666 BUT, as close as you can get... just invert the 9.

I am very curious as to what level of reality can be influenced by a third party between the observer and the observation such that the third party can communicate (if there be such a third party). Anyone who has read enough of my posts knows that I conclude there is definitely the interaction of a third party. My question is, could that third party, in fact, be the demiurge? Or perhaps all 7 archons working in unison?

If this speculation is true, and the observer understands the possibility that there be a separate 3rd party intelligence between the observer and what is observed, then perhaps the third party no longer has to find him/her self in a victim state. Perhaps this knowledge can place the observer on at least equal footing with this third party.

This is my latest Theory O' the Day... thanks for your tolerance.

justoneobserver

[Daughter of Time]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Thanks Amzer Zo - I am getting down to the bottom of my experience and so I am going to mention for the sake of "for the record" that I am certain the "group" that has been involved in my personal "contact" experiences is the group from Sirius. I am to undergo a session on June 4th and I am not going to share my theory with the practitioner to see what comes out. 8 days from now, I am very excited. The guy I found is named Mark Johnson (found via Michael Newton's Life Between Life's site). When I contacted Mark last week, he spent 2 hours on the phone with me right off the bat and we hadn't even begun any formal work. I did not reveal anything to do with Sirius and so it will be interesting if my intuition (which has also been backed up by a lifetime of clues) is correct. justone

PS to Truman Cash - Thank You for putting these books together and making them available via PDFs

I have recently discovered that the group that has been messing with my DNA and altering the function of my hypothalamus and pituitary is from Orion.

I don't know if this is the same group that has been abudcting me since I was a child. But the story of my abductions is a long one. Maybe one of these days I will write it down if anyone is interested in knowing how it all happened to me.

[Chester]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)

Posted by Houman (here)
Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

perhaps the most dangerous psychpaths of all are those who don't realize they may be one... psychopathy is not an On or Off, Hot or Cold, is a psychopath / isn't a psychopath type of phenomena. Perhaps many of us have psychopathic tendencies to varying degrees. Perhaps psychopathy is actually one of many symptoms of archonic influence. Perhaps closed mindedness and/or stubborness and/or seeing this black or white and/or thinking killing off those that we would have to try and convict of being psychopathic (as if that could happen) would resolve the problem - when in reality this would just allow the actual invading entities the ability to flee to the next hosts.

[Chester]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
From my point of view, it's the usual case of fudging the data to fit the theory and of course there were as many theories as there were groups so that, now, the actual data are irretrievable.

However, his bloodline has been actively sought after and hounded giving some indications of an actual man of flesh and blood.

An avenue of research may be offered with the Gypsy tradition of the 3 Maries who landed on France's southern shores?

Ooops... that was to add to post # 703 above.

Two thoughts - one... fascinating because with this consideration, the actual man may have been from an ancient bloodline that carried within the DNA the proclivity for "deeper understanding" and that the man acted upon his naturally occurring proclivity in words and deeds and what would appear to be fearlessness to some... and that it is this bloodline type that some EDs like most to manipulate and feed upon. In this case, there's nothing to take away from the man but to elevate him to savior of mankind status seems dangerous to me... still having said that, it is certainly a right of each of us to believe whatever we want about him (and if he even lived). I know that sentiment may not transmit in my posts, but its my true sentiment.

Thought 2 is that perhaps certain bloodlines carry within it the DNA possibility that the bloodline could produce hybrids of their human bloodline with an off world and possibly extra dimensional "energetic" line. Having said that, I recall coming upon information that stated some (maybe all) Sirians had three parents - not sure how that would exactly be done... imagine if a male and female human could combine with the energies of a Sirian entity to produce an exceptionally gifted human. If this could be true... would that be something good for humanity? It is intervention, yes?

This is all quite fascinating... I am wide open to anything about jesus as well as anyone else for that matter.

What's your views, Amzer Zo?