Soul harvester

[Wood]

I've just found this comic strip:


Source http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1662

I do not think this is what is actually happening here but it might. It is a bleak vision if we put humans in the role of the robots but it fits with stories about how ETs tweaked DNA of great apes to create 'workers' (or to cultivate souls). In fact I've seen references to a 'harvest' of souls that has started a few months ago.

EDIT: the 'workers' part of the stories never made much sense to me. I tend to think advanced ETs would have other tech to, for example, mine gold.

EDIT#2: it is a bleak vision even taken literally

[Ross]

Lets play...lets say this is a possibility...but this time we are aware of our inherent soul, our free will, our sovereignty. Perhaps harvesting can only occur when we give consent to do so, if we are aware of such consent...I'm very aware of my Sovereignty and no consent from me... and will say so!... nothing to harvest here...move on please.

Regards

Ross

[Wood]

Hi Ross,
Do you think we can be tricked to give our consent for being harvested by, for example, accepting to discard our ego and 'rejoin with our higher self'?

[lightblue]

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and i remember john lear mentoin grays collect human souls as physical bodies die, take to them to the moon for storage and further recycling...i am not thinking this up - i always wished bill and kerry probed him a bit mor on that ... l

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[Ross]

Deception has always been the ruse...thats why we are all trying our best to 'learn to discern', extreme discernment at that, from whatever and where ever that info originates from.

Stay Sovereign and express it: Example, if confronted with a possible higher self, or higher being, or anything, selling/telling you some story that is seemingly in the interest of your betterment, I would say:

I am Sovereign to my own being, period! I am neither for you nor against you.
Regards

Ross

[Wood]

Posted by Ross (here)
Stay Sovereign and express it: Example, if confronted with a possible higher self, or higher being, or anything, selling/telling you some story that is seemingly in the interest of your betterment, I would say:

I am Sovereign to my own being, period! I am neither for you nor against you.

Good tip, thank you Ross

[lightblue]

Re: Soul harvester

Deception has always been the ruse...thats why we are all trying our best to 'learn to discern', extreme discernment at that, from whatever and where ever that info originates from.

Stay Sovereign and express it: Example, if confronted with a possible higher self, or higher being, or anything, selling/telling you some story that is seemingly in the interest of your betterment, I would say:

I am Sovereign to my own being, period! I am neither for you nor against you.
Regards

Ross

you can say and reiterate that for as long as you are in this vehicle..not after you kicked the bucket.... l


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[Ross]

Posted by lightblue (here)

you can say and reiterate that for as long as you are in this vehicle..not afre you kick a bucket.... l


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If I'm still aware of my Conciousness when departing this 'vehicle' you can be assured I will be stating my Sovereignty.

Regards

Ross

[lightblue]

If I'm still aware of my Conciousness when departing this 'vehicle' you can be assured I will be stating my Sovereignty.

Regards

Ross

happy for you..i am...wish i could be as sure l


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[bashi]

Point is the IF. IF you are very familiar with OOB`s then it might be IF. Otherwise its a given that it will be a different Conciousness.

[wynderer]

Posted by Ross (here)
If I'm still aware of my Conciousness when departing this 'vehicle' you can be assured I will be stating my Sovereignty.

Regards

Ross

that's what i was trying to address in that other thread -- the big word in your post , Ross , imo , is IF -- 'IF i'm still aware' -- & that's my concern -- that if we are not conscious when sleeping, we won't be conscious when 'dying', leaving the body -- & very very few in human form are conscious when sleeping

i have heard about this soul harvesting from other sources -- & like i said in the other thread -- i think the real war is for souls -- the mass population reduction is not about killing the bodies -- that's why they haven't overtly taken over -- they don't want the bodies or the 3D Earth-- they are trashing the Earth -- obviously they don't care about physical 3D forms/reality -- they want human souls, & have had to wait ages to develop the technology to finally carry out their ultimate goal -- i think this stage had to have humans helping, too, in order to succeed

& as i said in the other thread -- w/all the documented conscious mind control, the mass mind control of the conscious mind -- the TV watching-mind, the video-gaming mind, etc -- & w/the NWO sophisticated understanding of the human brain/mind -- it makes no sense to me that they wouldn't be working just as hard, if not harder, to control the sleeping minds

for myself, i know that the Christ will get me thru & out OK when i leave this body -- who knows? He may work thru one of the ET groups who have approached me in the past -- but few know Him or want to -- & this is where my despair & unhappiness comes in -- for all those souls who will be lost -- for them, my hope is in what Arizona Wilder said --that the reptilian/demonic/human sell-out NWO does not know how to handle the new energies, that these energies can blow up in their faces -- i don't believe they, the NWO, are desperate or scared -- but they sure know that something is going to change, & they are trying to take as many souls [equals food to them] w/them when the changes happen

[Steven]

Harvesting soul is an old concept. Hidden Hand thread on ATS was talking about it for our time. It is a very deep christian believe, but it is a metaphor. Here is the meaning, in my humble opinion. A soul is sovereign, it is created this way, because everything is. That is part of a grand Principle in the Universe, freewill. A soul can loose its sovereignty when manipulated to do it so. The mental manipulation on Earth is very real and the ultimate goal to maintain humanity in deep lethargy is to "use" its soul to maintain a certain paradigm active. See, the soul is a creator, it shapes realities. In order for a higher intelligence to maintain a deep control over a given reality, they need to maintain the populace in a given mindset. You then harvest the fruits of what you sowed.

If a soul is aware of it and claim his sovereignty, just like Ross brought up, this soul is sending another kind of message to the Universe and the Universe respond accordingly. If a great percentage of humanity claim their sovereignty and begin to act accordingly, the paradigm shift.

Their is no harvesting as we might conceive other then loosing our soul into a vicious circle of victim consciousness. Their is a risk to incarnate here on Earth. The risk is to fall into this victimhood pattern and because of the Universal Laws, being locked into it for a long time. As soon as the soul awakes and begin to reestablish is control over its future, it is an act of sovereignty over our own power of creation, the soul can not be "harvested". We can not incarnate everywhere we want, our own spiritual awareness puts the limits to where we can go. That is why Earth is called a prison.

Namaste, Steven

[lightblue]

wyndarer, i've just posted something like you have done, minutes ago..here, my post #32

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...9631#post49631

wyndarer:

i have heard about this soul harvesting from other sources -- & like i said in the other thread -- i think the real war is for souls -- the mass population reduction is not about killing the bodies -- that's why they haven't overtly taken over -- they don't want the bodies or the 3D Earth-- they are trashing the Earth -- obviously they don't care about physical 3D forms/reality -- they want human souls, & have had to wait ages to develop the technology to finally carry out their ultimate goal -- i think this stage had to have humans helping, too, in order to succeed

i think that's right, that's what's happening... we'll beat them off though ... l


by the way, i am conscious when i sleep, and i know we are being given a weapon/means to fight...


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[Beren]

Posted by lightblue (here)
wyndarer, i've just posted something like you have done, minutes ago..here, my post #32

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...9631#post49631

wyndarer:

i think that's right, that's what's happening... we'll beat them off though ... l


by the way, i am conscious when i sleep, and i know we are being given a weapon/means to fight...


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What if some of them want to change for better but are like junkies ,addicted to lifestyle they lead in enormous riches , and addicted to power control???

How to help those?

[wynderer]

Posted by Steven (here)
Harvesting soul is an old concept. Hidden Hand thread on ATS was talking about it for our time. It is a very deep christian believe, but it is a metaphor. Here is the meaning, in my humble opinion. A soul is sovereign, it is created this way, because everything is. That is part of a grand Principle in the Universe, freewill. A soul can loose its sovereignty when manipulated to do it so. The mental manipulation on Earth is very real and the ultimate goal to maintain humanity in deep lethargy is to "use" its soul to maintain a certain paradigm active. See, the soul is a creator, it shapes realities. In order for a higher intelligence to maintain a deep control over a given reality, they need to maintain the populace in a given mindset. You then harvest the fruits of what you sowed.

If a soul is aware of it and claim his sovereignty, just like Ross brought up, this soul is sending another kind of message to the Universe and the Universe respond accordingly. If a great percentage of humanity claim their sovereignty and begin to act accordingly, the paradigm shift.

Their is no harvesting as we might conceive other then loosing his soul into a vicious circle of victim consciousness. Their is a risk to incarnate here on Earth. The risk is to fall into this victimhood pattern and because of the Universal Laws, being locked into it for a long time. As long as the soul awakes and begin to reestablish is control over its future, that is an act of sovereignty over your own power of creation.

Namaste, Steven

i said in another thread that i always kind of test philosophical & spiritual theories by imagining how they would hold up in the Nazi concentration camps [since there is some evidence, & some of that from PC interviewees, that the NWO has a strong Nazi element, i think the camp test is appropriate] -- the camps of the late '30s & '40s i think were just a shadow of the horrors in the ones to come [like Dulce] -- there was one bit in one of the recent interviews w/Jordan Maxwell where i could see he'd had a glimpse of the horrors --

it will take either an extremely strong will, or very powerful faith, or the two together, to not fall into 'victim consciousness' in the times ahead -- tho it ain't over till the Fat Lady sings, & i pray those times don't come

but the NWO always telegraphs/announces their plans beforehand -- if soul harvesting is making it into comic strips, it's on the way

[lightblue]

beren

What if some of them want to change for better but are like junkies ,addicted to lifestyle they lead in enormous riches , and addicted to power control???

How to help those?

everyone takes resposibility for their own soul..for this life time..

we were talking about the moments past the life in this body... l


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[Steven]

Yes, I agree wynderer. It is the ultimate goal for wars, poverty, sickness, pyramidal corruptible system, overwhelming problems, etc... The fear of the future is ultimately the best component to maintain humanity into victim consciousness and we are ALL into it. The solution isn't to become absolutely out of it, not really. We also learn a great deal by coming here. The goal is to make the rose to grow in the middle of the junkyard, from the junkyard soil. That is where blessings becomes all meaningful. The challenge is certainly great, but its possible.

Namaste, Steven

[wynderer]

Posted by Beren (here)
What if some of them want to change for better but are like junkies ,addicted to lifestyle they lead in enormous riches , and addicted to power control???

How to help those?

Beren, you are a treasure, a sweet soul -- when you talk about love & forgiveness, i know it's for real, & not lip-service B.S.

to me, fighting to try to protect & save as many as i can, however i can -- just waking them up! -- from what is coming -- that's my way of loving -- i'll leave the forgiveness & redemption of the s.o.b.'s who are trying to take the humans down -- i'll leave them to Christ & the Creator to deal with -- anytime they want, they can say ' I'm sorry' & change their ways -- that's fine w/me -- i don't hate them -- i don't want them to roast in the fires of hell forever -- i DO want them to leave the innocent & the ignorant alone, tho

[bashi]

Posted by Beren (here)
What if some of them want to change for better but are like junkies ,addicted to lifestyle they lead in enormous riches , and addicted to power control???

How to help those?

You can show a way, but they have to decide for themselves to leave their current path. It always boils down to CHOICE and the COURAGE to chose.

A famous Roman general said once:

" Self-Control leads to Self-Respect, which leads to Courage."

[wynderer]

Posted by lightblue (here)
wyndarer, i've just posted something like you have done, minutes ago..here, my post #32

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...9631#post49631

wyndarer:

i think that's right, that's what's happening... we'll beat them off though ... l


by the way, i am conscious when i sleep, and i know we are being given a weapon/means to fight...


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high five, Lightblue! for us posting the same thought at the same time