'WHO IS IT'? - (silent watcher)-(knowing the knower)-(seeing the see-'er) -Spirit,

[ljwheat]

Here are Two video’s that point to ,, look towards Who is it that is looking at what I’m looking at. A discussion on your seeing the see’er, explaining the unexplainable, bringing the Twilight Zone into the light of day. Many have tried to us religion to point at the silent watcher, including some channeled explanations, the silent watcher watching the giver in the channeled message -- being channeled? There is the one watching-- even God give a message, who is it that’s watching god watch us? befor religion? and dogma's. ie. a duality terminology human thinking.

This watcher that has no name, this awareness of all awareness, no matter how aware of awareness you go, we are still aware of yet an awareness just outside of each awareness, is watched. silent all knowing is'ness.

Or the creator of the creator, aware of who is it that’s aware of all the “IS”. ness’

How deep has your awareness taken you in seeing the see’er. ? Before the egg of religion or hard boiled dogma's, the awareness the watched. Story’s of your journey into the realm of the Twilight Zone were all things are possible and unexplainable, your chance to point at the silent watcher and what you’ve experienced, threw your eye’s and words.

Who is it that’s watching the watcher like a infinity mirror how many watcher’s are behind the watcher? Go as deep as you can, dive into new territory if you can?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bA_nDLM_xko

"Go Full Screen on this one for a full effect." (so above so below) infinity in both directions.

Doesn’t it look like a big dandy line, before you start the video, just before you blow it into a sunny day across the meadow of life.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_IVqMXPFYwI

John XXX thanks for watching? who's watching? is it. You or the watcher watching you watch.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi ljwheat, don't know if this is exactly in line with where you want to go with this thread, but here's an interesting little experience I had recently. I seldom formally meditate any more, but I'll still do it during the times when I can't sleep at night. Sometimes things can naturally go real quiet, and sometimes the chatter just continues. Either is just fine, I just don't have expectations with meditation any more.

So anyway, this night was a meditation just relaxing, and being mildly amused at observing the chatter that wouldn't stop. Almost like watchinig children at play. At one sudden point, the chatter peeled away from me, but continued on doing it's thing. It was very similar to where if two people are walking side by side in deep conversation, but one just stops, while the other unknowingly keeps on walking, continuing to speak to someone who's not there.

This really surprised the hell out of me, because the chatter has always been observed as being my own. With absolutely no judgement, the observer observed the chatter go it's own way for only a couple of seconds, until it realized what had happened, and zipped right back in like nothing had happened. Of course it was too late by that point, and it knew it. Like when a cat tries to act cool after a fall. A funny thing too, it was extremely embarrassed at being so utterly busted.(LOL) The watcher continued to be amused.

It's one thing to understand the concept of our duality, but it's another thing entirely to actually witness it.

Cheers,
Fred

[RUSirius]

Hey John, I just wanted to say this, ever since we spoke about the "watcher" when I consciously think about it, the who/what is watching through my eyes, I literally can feel a difference in my thoughts and emotions at that moment, things seem more interesting, less stressful. Thanks for everything.
Jeff

[ljwheat]

Hi ljwheat, don't know if this is exactly in line with where you want to go with this thread, but here's an interesting little experience I had recently.

Good day, Fred- - Yes this is ”pointing” there can be no exactly on this Who is it thingy. The one duality can’t seem to stay in sync with, as you said broke away and walked a head of you, the watcher seeing it take place.

New territory like the time years ago no one could break the 4 min. mile, till new territory was pondered till it manifested into duality. I guess I’m kind of back engineering looking at the us, standing as it were the shadow if you could turn your head fast enough you might catch a glimpse of. Your right on the money Fred, this is how I believe we will turn the tied by filling our awareness with practice in any skill is practice and association and emersion in to oneself, instead of 99% emersion in duality, you become what you eat or think the most on, diving into were duality cant go will break the 4 min. mile.

Our every waking moment is devoted to duality, duality, duality. Tipping the scale connecting with silent watcher of our being, so seem prudent that we familiarize our selves with the influence of our watcher and less and less of the doer in duality being watched. Each time you or I bring this forward all of us are gaining ground in the real us, and away from the elusions of duality. Thanks Fred threw your eye’s I saw yet another glimpse of the watcher.

John XXX

[ljwheat]

Hey John, I just wanted to say this, ever since we spoke about the "watcher" when I consciously think about it, the who/what is watching through my eyes, I literally can feel a difference in my thoughts and emotions at that moment, things seem more interesting, less stressful. Thanks for everything.
Jeff

Hay, Jeff ! WOW, good example awareness of the one watching is more of a feeling, like you know someone is watching and when you look its gone. Something your eye’s of thinking just can’t quite catch, but you know is there. Very good example in deed my friend, this is what I want to practice the orgasm of the awareness, and meditation or pondering melting backwards into the watcher’s arms of knowingness. Spot on Jeff. JOHN XXX

[truth4me]

We could/do live forever and not see it all for creation is also forever and has a head start on top of that.....

[Realeyes]

I wrote this post a year ago about the watcher/observer that fits in well with what you have written above.

Via controlled and spontaneous o.b.e.’s, I have experienced an unlimited amount of dimensions that one can travel and explore, each having a different conscious awareness that determines its shape and form. The higher one travels the greater consciously aware the beings become and more spiritually evolved. Within these dimensions are many universes, galaxies, solar systems, planets, landscapes creating a vast variety of entities, species and social systems etc.

I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.

Raising my conscious self above this Blue Grid, I will find myself in an Energetic Gold Grid that is the higher aspect of the Blue Grid and a deeper level of Oneness. There comes a point when suddenly I find myself in a deep Space Void of blackness, but is actually very much alive and conscious. There are no grid squares in sight just me floating in this Void as an Observer with immense observational abilities (360 degree), I am a Divine Presence with immense conscious awareness of SELF. I cannot see myself (no mirrors), because I am consciously inside of myself, yet likened to a big eye. As I adjust and accept this new state, I begin to see multitudes of bright lines coming off of me, like 360 degree rays from a star. I am surrounded by these spiralling vortices that don’t quite touch me, maybe a few millimetres gap from me, like synaptic clefts in the brain. On careful inspection they are spinning tunnel vortices that stretch out into this Void into eternity. Having 360 degree vision means I see all of them at once, yet when I want to inspect just one of them, it feels like I am turning my observation towards it, inside myself, but in truth there is no movement.

Now the moment I place my observation into looking right into any one of these vortices longer than a millionth of a second – I instantly ‘arrive’ at the other end of the vortex tunnel – instantly finding myself in a body form experiencing a reality filled with life and activity. These will either be a past, present, parallel or future time frame. Most times upon ‘arriving’, I instantly forget about ‘me’ being the big ‘Eye/Observer, and instantly engage into whatever reality is playing out as if it has always been this, including the body I find myself in. I can remain in one of these realities for any length of time, minutes to years until I suddenly find myself ‘returning’ back to being the big eye again floating in the Void with all these rays of vortices around me. Each time I return back to being the Big Eye there is a part of my conscious self that sort of chuckles that I forgot again of who I really am as I allowed myself to get totally lost again in a reality. There is another part of my consciousness that is relieved to have returned as my whole self again, the big eye/observer/god.

There is a level above this that I discovered, which is an even bigger Void of blackness, yet it is full of coloured specs within the blackness (sorry hard to describe). I exist as one of these minute specs of consciousness. Everything that ever was and ever will be exists here in no form yet the potential ideas of all form – it is a sea of pure Divine Consciousness. It is like floating in the womb of God/Source. Everything is known, so there are no questions to ask. I no longer see the vortex rays around me, or even have memories of lifetimes; it’s as if I am ONE MIND with ALL THINGS, ALL POTENTIALS and NO THINGS all at the same time – it is quite a paradox trying to understand this when in human form, yet when there or should I say in this 'State' of 'Mind', it all makes absolute sense. This as I understand it so far is ‘Creative Source’ or the Mind of God.

Back to existing here in ‘form’ with a body, many people (including myself) who are able to meditate into a deep trance (i.e. lose all sense of their physical body, 5 senses & shutting off this reality) experience seeing a single large beautiful loving eye gazing back at them. N.B. This is not to be confused with the Illuminate eye that is a downgrade of truth bastardised to manipulate and encourage fear and control over others. The eye I and many others have witnessed is not a physical eye; it is seen by our psychic senses in our frontal lobe. This is the big eye/observer I spoke about observing through the spiralling vortex of ‘me’ experiencing this reality. To put this another way, it is my godly ‘I’ (eye) connected to Eternal Source lovingly observing ‘me’. I call this my Greater Observer that exists in the timeless/formless state were All Times are happening simultaneously in a twinkling of an eye. This is what I understand the scientists studying Quantum Mechanics are starting to realise. Their experiments are getting really exciting as they start to understand the Observer (meaning us) effects reality!

I could continue writing loads on this subject because the possibilities of what we can do are unlimited, where Dimensional Travel becomes very obvious for those who wish to contemplate what I have written. When one has obtained self mastery they can travel as they please; there is no need for governments, houses, food, work, social structures, religion, taxes etc – it is absolute self expression of Freedom – free-dancing in the Mind Of God.

Like everyone else, I have not achieved this mastery yet, just had glimmers; I have much to learn and conquer within myself – but with All Time existing simultaneously in the NOW, there is a ‘me’ right now in existence that ‘has’ and ‘is’ doing just this! My mind boggles in all that I have yet to explore!

Simply put in a 360 degree wrap-up - I exist in ‘All States’ simultaneously and it all balls down to ‘me’ engaging consciously with my ‘observer’ as to which ‘state’ of myself 'I' choose to experience! Happy contemplations.......

[ljwheat]

Posted by truth4me (here)
We could/do live forever and not see it all for creation is also forever and has a head start on top of that.....

truth4me, this has given me pause Very Great Pause -- thinking of the second video --So above so below, in that an earlier post today spoke of ant’s having awareness, and then the drop of water on a blade of grass towards the end of the video with a myriad of microbial life in suspension, having this same awareness as we do. Big stretch for ego to let go of what intelligent life or thinking should be.

That small or better yet, a bigger mind as an elephant or a whale, or the mind of mother earth, or a microbe suspended in a drop of water, is there really any difference in awareness the silent watcher (awareness) dose it take up any space? Words take up space, watcher taking up no space can fit into any size or detention or time line. Or all of eternity in the size of a speck? John XX


Doesn’t it look like a big dandy line, before you start the video, just before you blow it into a sunny day across the meadow of life.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_IVqMXPFYwI

[Realeyes]

Posted by ljwheat (here)

Posted by truth4me (here)
We could/do live forever and not see it all for creation is also forever and has a head start on top of that.....

truth4me, this has given me pause Very Great Pause -- thinking of the second video --So above so below, in that an earlier post today spoke of ant’s having awareness, and then the drop of water on a blade of grass towards the end of the video with a myriad of microbial life in suspension, having this same awareness as we do. Big stretch for ego to let go of what intelligent life or thinking should be.

That small or better yet, a bigger mind as an elephant or a whale, or the mind of mother earth, or a microbe suspended in a drop of water, is there really any difference in awareness the silent watcher (awareness) dose it take up any space? Words take up space, watcher taking up no space can fit into any size or detention or time line. Or all of eternity in the size of a speck? John XXX

Methinks this is what Jesus meant when he said something like 'The Kingdom of Heaven is contained within a mustard seed'. BIG GRIN.

[ljwheat]

Realeye's ---- said; I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.
John XXX

Realeye's The mere mention of Orbs -- as our essence, I think of Bill Ryan’s thread on orbs as well as the trilogy of Carlos Kastenesta’s books on ancient shaman teachings, and his eventual experiencing seeing life in real time everywhere he looked seeing orbs of all sizes, little ones, like insect’s, bigger ones, like animals and birds and so on entering and leaving our dualistic world before and after life. O.B.E.’s are probably adding to this myriad of Orbs he was seeing in real time as well as in the photograph’s in Bills thread on Orbs caught on film. Could this be the vehicle of silent watcher pure awareness popping in and out of time lines and dimensions at will and at conception in the egg any egg not just human.? JohnXXX

[Realeyes]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
Realeye's ---- said; I have an immense curiosity and after exploring a realm, I wonder what exists above this. Realms/dimensions are separated by what I will loosely call an energetic web and feels like pushing through a fine spiders web, ‘popping’ through and ‘arriving’ into the next realm. Continuing to do this, there comes a point when one finds oneself in a ‘Blue Energetic Grid of uniform squares’ that spans further than the 360 degree vision can see. This Blue Energy Grid has it’s own conscious awareness of sorts and will automatically read my energy fields around me (me being an orb) creating a shimmering affect in the Blue Grid square I am in, where instantly ‘reality’ of ‘shape and form’ instantly appear giving me the experience of a Time/Space continuum. The reality I witness will be frequency specific to my energy fields; if someone else entered into this energy square, they would witness/experience what was frequency specific to their energy fields – i.e. the realities and experience would be different.
John XXX

Realeye's The mere mention of Orbs -- as our essence, I think of Bill Ryan’s thread on orbs as well as the trilogy of Carlos Kastenesta’s books on ancient shaman teachings, and his eventual experiencing seeing life in real time everywhere he looked seeing orbs of all sizes, little ones, like insect’s, bigger ones, like animals and birds and so on entering and leaving our dualistic world before and after life. O.B.E.’s are probably adding to this myriad of Orbs he was seeing in real time as well as in the photograph’s in Bills thread on Orbs caught on film. Could this be the vehicle of silent watcher pure awareness popping in and out of time lines and dimensions at will and at conception in the egg any egg not just human.? JohnXXX

YEP! Happy Dreaming!

[ljwheat]

Here is an analogy; that we are just the glove on the watcher’s hand. Or the shoe, watcher steeps out in. We are just the thinking hat sitting on the head of a student at Hog Wart school for the gifted. LOL just a thought outside the box/hat. John XXX

[ljwheat]

Like mirror gazing, and after the impulse to laugh your head off, as it is “Jim Carry“, but since we know him, this is a way to bring something we have in common to the thread. Smiling into my face wouldn’t have the same result I’m afraid. LOL

Anyway try holding your gaze to match his not to mention his emanating pure Love, then try it in your own mirror, with the same sound track in the background the music the birds all that stuff. When I did this even though I know myself pretty well, I was embarrassed. Is that normal in mirror gazing. Or is it unseen issues I need to deal with?

Full screen helps with this video too. LOL good luck let me know what happens, or if you have information on mirror gazing. John XXX

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U4cbzUG2V-I

Can you sense Jim's silent watcher watching him watch you? Feel into it with your 6th sense.

[Carmen]

Oh!! It is soo good to have some threads now that I can enjoy. Not that I have a whole lot to say but they are uplifting and cause me to contemplate. Thank you guys. I was at the point of walking away from this forum.

[RUSirius]

Posted by Carmen (here)
Oh!! It is soo good to have some threads now that I can enjoy. Not that I have a whole lot to say but they are uplifting and cause me to contemplate. Thank you guys. I was at the point of walking away from this forum.

Please stay, you are needed by us and others around you

[ljwheat]

Eckhart Tolle brings so much from stillness were watcher and all that is -- stems. Its truly amazing how the universe works, when the student is ready the teacher will ------smiles with out end.

john XXX

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OpDDyTW1nLY

[ljwheat]

Oh!! It is soo good to have some threads now that I can enjoy. Not that I have a whole lot to say but they are uplifting and cause me to contemplate. Thank you guys. I was at the point of walking away from this forum.

Carmen I too just a month or so ago, had the same thoughts, as so many before us have left for so many reasons - some left untold I am sure - will probalbly stay that way.

Alas I had a request by a young fellow who asked a question and was in need of advice, I took the challenge and opened up, I found out that I was truly needed and my opinion counted in some ones life as I found out in short order,. When the student is ready the teacher will arrive. How else will the studant learn to become the next teacher?

RUSirius just said stay -- and I believe your some ones teacher, and my backup. Had you stayed silent I would not have known your support thank you Carmen. John XXX your part of this thread you enjoy. Some times two words can make or break some one’s life. And its helped make mine to night.

[ljwheat]

This is totally assume. John XXX a short 12 min. video.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wveedNzcdS8

[Sebastion]

As far as I am concerned the silent watcher is in reality, your own god-consciousness/awareness. I had a lucid dream late last week which was very similar to the 2nd half of the 2nd video you posted. I am amazed at the synchronicity and the similarity with that video.

Methinks when you drop a majority of your social programing and imprinting, the inevitable result will be peace within yourself as there aren't any conflicting programs playing continuously. That is where unity consciousness within starts to take place, if that is your intention. Unity consciousness will include the silent watcher aspect as well.

[Falcor]

'I' saw 'my Self' in the 'creation' the other day. it was a good moment. if only i could 'see' that way more often

at some point along the path of self recognition, words just fall short