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    Default Re: 'WHO IS IT'? - (silent watcher)-(knowing the knower)-(seeing the see-'er) -Spirit

    Love the first video here is the full version



    Now this is mind blowing



    We are very small.

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    Hi John,

    I really love you posts and threads lately.
    You're on fire!

    Quote Posted by Sebastion (here)
    As far as I am concerned the silent watcher is in reality, your own god-consciousness/awareness.
    Can you watch the silent watcher?

    Can you be what you can observe?

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    Quote Posted by ljwheat (here)
    Quote Posted by truth4me (here)
    We could/do live forever and not see it all for creation is also forever and has a head start on top of that.....
    truth4me, this has given me pause Very Great Pause...

    That small or better yet, a bigger mind as an elephant or a whale, or the mind of mother earth, or a microbe suspended in a drop of water, is there really any difference in awareness the silent watcher (awareness) dose it take up any space? Words take up space, watcher taking up no space can fit into any size or detention or time line. Or all of eternity in the size of a speck? John XX
    I wanted to pick up on these genius thoughts of contemplation.

    I will share with you an out of body experience I had many years that delves into this contemplation.

    I have learnt to induce my own OOBE’s. Sometime around 2002 I had peeled out of my physical body into my Astral body and was now flying at fast speed into deep space, flying passed stars and planets and having great fun diving into wormholes. Such experiences are awesome!

    Suddenly, I became two awareness’, whereby I was still full on experiencing my wild ride in space, yet I now had a second silent observation awareness, where I was seeing myself whizzing through the wormhole yet perceiving this from ‘outside’ of the wormhole. I was a dot of light travelling through a long tunnel. This ‘observer’ perspective was looking inside my ‘brain’!

    These wormholes were ‘axons’ leading to the ‘neuron’. Arriving in the ‘neuron’ is where I would experience forms such as planets, stars etc. Then I would travel momentarily into a void like space, where no-thing existed before diving into another wormhole. This void like space was my synaptic cleft!

    So to round up my post – reality has never been the same since all of the above. Yes, I forget at times and get in-spelled in 3D – yet at the back of my mind, I know a deeper understanding that always reminds me there is so much more to this picture I call reality.

    Here is an image of a neuron cell.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Co...diagram_en.svg

    Ps. I will be away from a computer for just over a week, so will not be around to comment to any questions that may arise from this wild post. If there are such questions, please be patient, and I will get back to you when I am able. Smile

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    Ps. I will be away from a computer for just over a week, so will not be around to comment to any questions that may arise from this wild post. If there are such questions, please be patient, and I will get back to you when I am able. Smile

    Realeyes, we so await your return, the time line your on, I sensed you were holding out on us, or should I say no ones asked of late the gems you hold in tow. There is so much territory even keeping with the OP the off shoots all connect beautifully holding this time line together, diving into new territory is sometimes only a thin layer away from the path well trod. Gods speed on you journeys, and come back to us rested and ready to roll the pearls across the table for us to see. I’ve enjoyed the door’s you’ve opened thus fare, with baited anticipation we all await your return.

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    Hi John,

    I really love you posts and threads lately.
    You're on fire!

    Quote Posted by Sebastion (here)
    As far as I am concerned the silent watcher is in reality, your own god-consciousness/awareness.
    Can you watch the silent watcher?

    Can you be what you can observe?
    Wakytweaky, wow, nice pointing with your questions its the direction of aware of the awareness. Yes, and Yes to both. Watching silent watcher is probably the easiest why to see watcher is in nature, pausing enough in self is the hard part, but being silent yourself while observing this silent watcher in nature is most pleasing an endeavor a mother watching over a young cub, or lamb, or the Sun watching over Mother earth from afar observing the observed as the observer is tranquil in its stillness, so many prophets, wise sayer’s, sages, teacher’ s have stressed the gazing in/ of nature to reach this Plato of awareness. Once in that time line of awareness you feel into and become what you see, out of observing the seen. So IMO it’s a yes - yes. Thanks for the journey in that mind space. John XXX
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    Default Re: 'WHO IS IT'? - (silent watcher)-(knowing the knower)-(seeing the see-'er) -Spirit

    Well said LJ!



    Quote Posted by ljwheat (here)
    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    Hi John,

    I really love you posts and threads lately.
    You're on fire!

    Quote Posted by Sebastion (here)
    As far as I am concerned the silent watcher is in reality, your own god-consciousness/awareness.
    Can you watch the silent watcher?

    Can you be what you can observe?
    Wakytweaky, wow, nice pointing with your questions it the direction of aware of the awareness. Yes, and Yes to both. Watching silent watcher is probably the easiest why to see watcher, pausing enough in self is the hard part, but being silent yourself while observing this silent watcher in nature is most pleasing an endeavor a mother watching over a young cub, or lamb, or the Sun watching over Mother earth from afar observing the observed as the observer is tranquil in its stillness, so many prophets, wise slayer’s, sages, teacher’ s have stressed the gazing of nature to reach this Plato of awareness. Once in that time line of awareness you feel into and become what you see, out of observing the seen. So IMO it’s a yes - yes. Thanks for the journey in that mind space. John XXX

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    I really like the second video for personal reasons.
    My most profound understanding has to do with a concept that came to me in a flash while writing one of my books.
    It is the idea of the circle in the dot. Ulli would call it as above so below, as below so above.
    That video reminded me of the time I was transported on just such a journey, in my mind while meditating, as the intro to the concept of the circle in the dot. So to see it represented like that really gave me a jolt.
    Thanks so much. And I agree - you are on fire!

    Keep it up, friend.
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

    Free will can only be as free as the mind that conceives it.

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I really like the second video for personal reasons.
    My most profound understanding has to do with a concept that came to me in a flash while writing one of my books.
    It is the idea of the circle in the dot. Ulli would call it as above so below, as below so above.
    That video reminded me of the time I was transported on just such a journey, in my mind while meditating, as the intro to the concept of the circle in the dot. So to see it represented like that really gave me a jolt.
    Thanks so much. And I agree - you are on fire!

    Keep it up, friend.
    Good day Ernie, Thank you for your tour in mind space, as you spoke these words of vision in your recalling of/how it affected you I suddenly became the silent watcher and traveled with you, in your shoe’s as it were, when people hold back no matter how trivial it may sound in there head with little or no response the rest of the universe looses the glimpse of that flower that would have bloomed in some ones awareness. Never hold back any detail big or small the size of a speck - its", all part of our great awareness. I still real every time I rethink the ride Jodi Foster took to the core of the universe and back in the movie Contact, it may have been science fiction for a movie, but when millions took that ride with her it suddenly became real. If you smile into a mirror it has no choice but to smile back, so to the -thought- think it into the mirror of our world it has no choice but to create it as real. And that time line co-exists next to grumpy old men, and there creation. If you swim in the flames of what is possible, your bound to catch yourself on fire. Thanks Ernie you’re a champ. JohnXXX
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    Here is a short story, I’d like to relate of my earliest recount of seeing nature as a child of 2 and a half years old.

    At that time we lived on a truck farm of 5 acres deep one wide. Raised vegetables to sell on the side of the road on the out skirts of Toledo Ohio, I had a dog, collie shepherd that I stood shoulder to shoulder with at that age, my two older brother’s as boys will do-- adventurous after chores of course-- some times would travel 5 acres back to the tree line at the property line, exploring the woods, there was a small path well worn from there use over the years before I came along, 7 years difference I was the youngest of three boy’s.

    Anyways one day since I now new the way, back to this path in the woods that lead to a very neat little clearing of sand doon’s and a fresh water spring, and several small ponds.

    Dad was at work factory worker, both brother’s in school, mom was doing laundry or something? "Me" just a toddler and my dog “Boots” were off to the ponds and all that sand. I don’t remember to much of the journey back there, but the journey back was emblazed into my memory for ever.

    So what’s prevalent to this thread is -- once at the pond playing in the water’s edge I had picked up a young tad pole, holding it in my hand in a tinny little pool of water it wiggled around in my hand I pocked at it enough that it flipped over on its back and young tad pole’s have a transparent belly and I could see right threw the shin seeing its intestines and all that stuff, then I notice, I saw the little tinny heart, beating away life holding life in my hand. Suddenly I was the watcher holding the watched. Then something happened that till now eluded me to this day, suddenly I was the tad pole looking up at (life) myself holding myself (life), my little jaw fell to the sand I was standing on for it seemed like an eternity in total awareness at that age wow.

    Then out of no ware the back of my legs were on fire, as my mother had notice that I and "Boots were missing, and there was a fresh trail of little boy with dog tracks leading right past an old willow tree just before the freshly plowed field, branch of willow tree in hand mother followed the trail my bestest friend and I had left for her to fallow. So the journey home was emblazed into my little life. And I must say it was all worth the wisdom of that moment in time so long ago.

    " There I got it out of me". Phew. 61 years ago still fresh in my thoughts still.

    That was my first awakening to two different worlds one of bliss, the other of pain beyond belief. John XXX
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    Woah... keep it coming people. This is some very good stuff. Loving it!

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    Quote Posted by GoodeTXSG (here)
    Woah... keep it coming people. This is some very good stuff. Loving it!
    Hay , GoodeTXSG, I know -- I was thinking this - the other day looking at threads -- in and out- - not finding anything worth joining in -- so many arguments the majority of topic’s have fallen into. So to make the mirror" smile"-- I decided to make this one smile by smiling first. and now everyone is smiling back with me, cool Huh ? This is the oasis of stillness and the story’s that brought us all to this time line. Thanks for joining us the temperature is just right methinks. John XXX
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    Yea, this site goes through phases... There were some great topics going strong for a while. I guess it ebbs and flows. But I do like this positive thread. We need more of that kind of thing in our minds each day. I hope other people come up with some more of these videos. I liked this one as well... It freaked me out as it reminded me exactly of a Remote Viewing session I had right after being trained around 1990. It was pretty close, very cool.



    Indeed, this one DID blow me away!

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    Nature is the watcher and we are part of it. Love is the binding force, just be. Thank you for the sharing and making the now pleasant.

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    I was going to say Good morning with coffee in hand and all, pondering what I might bring forward today and suddenly realized.

    Before typing this we are still in the now moment on a ball and all that this moment entails on a ball and taking this word good morning for granted.

    You know its almost like watching a commercial on tv and you catch something that’s not correct a typo the set director some how over looked.

    What I’m driving at here,- is this commercial of life -- and the rolls we play in it, and the scripts the directors have handed us to play out day to day, I’m beginning to see all the typo’s now. Using the its always “now” model as a grounding anchor to look at some of the words we were taught to us and just how they continue to keep us locked into there controlled time line.

    For instance the “word’ - one of many that in pure - critical thinking - and scientifically provable for any third grade science class, is the word (Good Morning) one of many thousands of words we can attack with a new fad of eliminating all these words out of our vocabulary (one hell of an undertaking I would think) or some how flag these words of deception.

    Good Morning is a subtle and innocent word. Considering we live on a ball and were ever the flash light shines the eastern part of the ball all the ants are saying good morning to each other, what if we had three Sun’s and our planet didn’t spin. Would it not be called NOW everywhere on the planet at the same time? Have we not Labeled the elusion of movement in time and space with all these labels‘, yesterday, tomorrow, in a minute, next week, next month, in the future, when in reality they can not exist except in our heads as a fantasy words like fillers for meat and food no nourishment for our brains, a lie, a controlled blinding lie to the reality of its always now, and it will never, not be now.

    They’ve tricked us into believing that we are in motion, when there is only now. When you think of London in the now your thoughts are in London with out movement of the body, but none the less in the now in London at that now. When you were there in the now, it was now.

    Many have said the 5th dimension is going to be like this, think willow tree and suddenly your standing in front of a willow tree. Think alpha centurie and suddenly your there millions of light years away now to now travel.

    Placing all these limiter’s, in our path of the present now, we have never had a chance to work out how to properly use the “now” there keeping us out of - by words and scripts, programs, beliefs, and dogma’s always moving in the direction of the future or past, never really taking advantage of the power in the now.

    All these words of movement when there is only now.

    The ever present noise in the brain if it were recordings of truth and correct thinking it would not be able to push us into the future or past - that have the power to keep us out of the “now”- those two words are the blinders (past and future) there is only now.

    All this glimpsing of the watcher, when for a second you see it. Its in the silence of the moment in the “now“. When there is no movement, you see it all.

    In movement of words the now is lost. The words of still, now, tranquil, calm, know, be, is, have, I see you, known, ponder, See, aware, awake, conscious, hold this space, stop the movement of definitions that have no meaning in the now.

    To the totally controlled human on this planet not seeing how words control everything, mediation is something for 60’s crowd and those who smoke dope and wear flower’s in there hair, and sing love, love, love, all the time.

    Meditation is only the door way out of all this world of words of deception. But nothing is really done about the words we walk back into once we leave the world of silent watcher. We step out for a time recharge our batteries. And then step right back into the world of “WORDS” keeping our attention away from what’s real non words in the now.

    Not all words are bad, just the ones set in place to keep us all little happy, obedient, in a trance slaves.

    Everything out side of “NOW” and its big- - everything that’s not sync’ with ture meanings and with now is the deception. Words and definitions’ are the ball and chain keeping us from living a full and powerful life in the now.

    John XXX
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    Quote Posted by ljwheat (here)
    I was going to say Good morning with coffee in hand and all, pondering what I might bring forward today and suddenly realized.

    Before typing this we are still in the now moment on a ball and all that this moment entails on a ball and taking this word good morning for granted.

    You know its almost like watching a commercial on tv and you catch something that’s not correct a typo the set director some how over looked.

    What I’m driving at here,- is this commercial of life -- and the rolls we play in it, and the scripts the directors have handed us to play out day to day, I’m beginning to see all the typo’s now. Using the its always “now” model as a grounding anchor to look at some of the words we were taught to us and just how they continue to keep us locked into there controlled time line.

    For instance the “word’ - one of many that in pure - critical thinking - and scientifically provable for any third grade science class, is the word (Good Morning) one of many thousands of words we can attack with a new fad of eliminating all these words out of our vocabulary (one hell of an undertaking I would think) or some how flag these words of deception.

    Good Morning is a subtle and innocent word. Considering we live on a ball and were ever the flash light shines the eastern part of the ball all the ants are saying good morning to each other, what if we had three Sun’s and our planet didn’t spin. Would it not be called NOW everywhere on the planet at the same time? Have we not Labeled the elusion of movement in time and space with all these labels‘, yesterday, tomorrow, in a minute, next week, next month, in the future, when in reality they can not exist except in our heads as a fantasy words like fillers for meat and food no nourishment for our brains, a lie, a controlled blinding lie to the reality of its always now, and it will never, not be now.

    They’ve tricked us into believing that we are in motion, when there is only now. When you think of London in the now your thoughts are in London with out movement of the body, but none the less in the now in London at that now. When you were there in the now, it was now.

    Many have said the 5th dimension is going to be like this, think willow tree and suddenly your standing in front of a willow tree. Think alpha centurie and suddenly your there millions of light years away now to now travel.

    Placing all these limiter’s, in our path of the present now, we have never had a chance to work out how to properly use the “now” there keeping us out of - by words and scripts, programs, beliefs, and dogma’s always moving in the direction of the future or past, never really taking advantage of the power in the now.

    All these words of movement when there is only now.

    The ever present noise in the brain if it were recordings of truth and correct thinking it would not be able to push us into the future or past - that have the power to keep us out of the “now”- those two words are the blinders (past and future) there is only now.

    All this glimpsing of the watcher, when for a second you see it. Its in the silence of the moment in the “now“. When there is no movement, you see it all.

    In movement of words the now is lost. The words of still, now, tranquil, calm, know, be, is, have, I see you, known, ponder, See, aware, awake, conscious, hold this space, stop the movement of definitions that have no meaning in the now.

    To the totally controlled human on this planet not seeing how words control everything, mediation is something for 60’s crowd and those who smoke dope and wear flower’s in there hair, and sing love, love, love, all the time.

    Meditation is only the door way out of all this world of words of deception. But nothing is really done about the words we walk back into once we leave the world of silent watcher. We step out for a time recharge our batteries. And then step right back into the world of “WORDS” keeping our attention away from what’s real non words in the now.

    Not all words are bad, just the ones set in place to keep us all little happy, obedient, in a trance slaves.

    Everything out side of “NOW” and its big- - everything that’s not sync’ with ture meanings and with now is the deception. Words and definitions’ are the ball and chain keeping us from living a full and powerful life in the now.

    John XXX
    Hello my friend, unbelievably well said, however I have one "complaint" you said it so well, drew such a good picture, it depressed me a bit that I seemingly feel not close to achieving what you speak of. I'm honestly tired of words, food too, not that I dont love either of them, I just feel like it would be great to move on from both of them. Staying in the now is the key, I feel I know it is, its also difficult to stay focused, or should I unfocus, not sure. Thanks John, you're the best.
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    Hello my friend, unbelievably well said, however I have one "complaint" you said it so well, drew such a good picture, it depressed me a bit that I seemingly feel not close to achieving what you speak of. I'm honestly tired of words, food too, not that I dont love either of them, I just feel like it would be great to move on from both of them. Staying in the now is the key, I feel I know it is, its also difficult to stay focused, or should I unfocus, not sure. Thanks John, you're the best.
    Jeff


    Jeff, actually everything you have just voiced is exactly what has spur’d me to voice this post, I think we are all very old traveler’s, birthing on this planet so, so, many times -- its just down right getting old having to play this word game yet again on a planet were --everything-- to live -must kill and eat everything else to hold this bag of water in place.

    Trying to get it right, trying to make a difference, being recycled over and over to what end we think, and those who would scam or deceive us on every street corner, saying come look see, could you spare a dime or some of your energy, or time. When dose it end-- when will it stop?

    That’s the dilemma we all are in with words and stinking thinking. But on the bright side, the above post is a small antidote to all this noise our inviorment,- our brains, - our friends have set up before us to get threw yet one more time, like running threw a mind field only this one is words and mind space noise, just as deadly-- but getting more and more "detectable" now -- then it was 10 years ago, when they would hall you off to the funny farm-- speaking and considering any alterative thought or time lines. Much has changed in a very short time for the good. Stay on this time line it easy to fall back into the doom and gloom time lines running around every where, staying-- amercing-- your self in all the good stuff you can find long enough, you become what you eat, or what you think. If you want good things in the mirror your looking into, you must turn around and place those good thing around you and behind you, so when you turn and look back into the mirror you will see and find all the work you’ve accomplished in creating what you now will see in the mirror. Its just that simple be the mirror- the mirror reflects. If you build it on the inside mirror-- you’ll see it on the outside mirror. the mirror is a slave to what it see's on the inside thats its soul job-- reflecting what is in you.

    So if you run into a screwed up mirror and the things you see in it are not your’s-----“RUN” quite looking into everyone else’s mirror -- get your reflection right. Meditate young Pad a Wan, “stay here and now in the present” the future has its own destiny, build your own image and this is called self empowerment. Fill your inner mirror with all the furniture and thoughts you’ll need to be comfortable for the long or short hall we have left here to unfold. But unfold it in your heart first were its safe and men can not enter and steel your pearls, or furnishing. Building anything out hear in this mirror we falsely call our reality will fall apart if its not in our inner reflection first. confuseing what you see or hear on this outside mirror with your own mirror is the land mine. make sure it reflects your inner most reflection -- as out here there are to many knock offs-- that look like the real thing, but are just the products of the black market (evryone else's mirror's) to intice you into purchasing there wares. RUN my friend RUN be true to the inner mirror you can build-- and have full devine control over. John XXX

    PS: you had it right.! un-focus on the outside mirror's and focus on the inner mirror and what you put there. just go back and visit that mirror- more often than the mirror's out hear. Make your inner mirror your new home. were everything is OK.
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    "bows"


    Here are more food for a though.



    Where to begin? Where to end? We start with an omnipresent point of silence that draws a line of thought that flowers into the fractal geometry of all things. Language may be considered the geometry of thought the more that one becomes aware of its impervious nature, language is thought and thought is language. Language structures thought just as much as it represents it. One cannot say that the language one uses is truly one's own for the very definition of oneself is sculpted by the mirroring of culture and experiences. It is like being given a tool to fashion new words and indeed new Worlds within and without. Everything one considers oneself to be is built from another thought, another word, another World. It begs the question who is I and who is I talking to? One might take I to be self-referent, but how can one be thinking I's thoughts if I is thinking oneself? The thinker is just a thought, mind is not thinker, it a thought by another thought. I is a story that has crystalized within a place and moment of spacetime. I am here, I am now, yet forever being washed away by awareness of new forms taking shape within and without.

    This communication then is between a little self to a little self, but also between a little self to big Self and big Self to a little self. We dance an ambiguous dance alone together. Little self merges into big Self only to be swept away as big Self withdraws into division. Reality can only exist without so long as there remains a reality within, just as an observor cannot exist within lest there be an Observor without. I am a reality within Reality and Reality without a reality, an observer within the Observer and the Observer without an observor, a universe within the Universe and the Universe without a universe, a self within the Self and the Self without a self. Little self is active, is yang, big Self is passive, is yin. I am waking from dreaming and dreaming of waking. Like a dolphin that comes to wake the surface only to dive once more into the deep ocean of dreams, haunting oneself through ever expansive novel feelings and experiences. One transcends I only to be hypnotized by the unfolding majesty of cosmic complexity which begets another layer of I's transcendent tapestry. What is this motion that dissolves one's being, space and time? Is it an unspeakable delight of awe or a pervading existential nightmare that traps a mind within Mind? To awaken from being a puppet and find the puppetmaster only to discover evermore puppets in guise of the hand which is incessantly withdrawn. As the ancient Chinese expressed, the excess of yin is the birth of yang, just as the excess of yang is the birth of yin. I is splintered by the horrifying beauty of realizing that self and World are equivically equal and equally equivocal. The World dies, only for a new World to be born.
    Life just "IS", and we are all witness it unfold, through the expression of the believed separation, that creates everything we experience.

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    "bows"


    Here are more food for a though.


    <8> WOW nice gem of a video, thanks - - - speachless

    - checked it out -- = for more! "Nice find!"

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    Quote Posted by <8> (here)
    "bows"


    Here are more food for a though.



    Where to begin? Where to end? We start with an omnipresent point of silence that draws a line of thought that flowers into the fractal geometry of all things. Language may be considered the geometry of thought the more that one becomes aware of its impervious nature, language is thought and thought is language. Language structures thought just as much as it represents it. One cannot say that the language one uses is truly one's own for the very definition of oneself is sculpted by the mirroring of culture and experiences. It is like being given a tool to fashion new words and indeed new Worlds within and without. Everything one considers oneself to be is built from another thought, another word, another World. It begs the question who is I and who is I talking to? One might take I to be self-referent, but how can one be thinking I's thoughts if I is thinking oneself? The thinker is just a thought, mind is not thinker, it a thought by another thought. I is a story that has crystalized within a place and moment of spacetime. I am here, I am now, yet forever being washed away by awareness of new forms taking shape within and without.

    This communication then is between a little self to a little self, but also between a little self to big Self and big Self to a little self. We dance an ambiguous dance alone together. Little self merges into big Self only to be swept away as big Self withdraws into division. Reality can only exist without so long as there remains a reality within, just as an observor cannot exist within lest there be an Observor without. I am a reality within Reality and Reality without a reality, an observer within the Observer and the Observer without an observor, a universe within the Universe and the Universe without a universe, a self within the Self and the Self without a self. Little self is active, is yang, big Self is passive, is yin. I am waking from dreaming and dreaming of waking. Like a dolphin that comes to wake the surface only to dive once more into the deep ocean of dreams, haunting oneself through ever expansive novel feelings and experiences. One transcends I only to be hypnotized by the unfolding majesty of cosmic complexity which begets another layer of I's transcendent tapestry. What is this motion that dissolves one's being, space and time? Is it an unspeakable delight of awe or a pervading existential nightmare that traps a mind within Mind? To awaken from being a puppet and find the puppetmaster only to discover evermore puppets in guise of the hand which is incessantly withdrawn. As the ancient Chinese expressed, the excess of yin is the birth of yang, just as the excess of yang is the birth of yin. I is splintered by the horrifying beauty of realizing that self and World are equivically equal and equally equivocal. The World dies, only for a new World to be born.
    <8> thanks for the contributions, you assist my mind in my mission.

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    Don Miguel Ruiz 4 Agreement = Ancient Toltec teachings



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