Forum in flux (eclipse cycle/venus transit)

[ulli]

Posted by wavydome (here)
Lovely talk here, thanks. My curiosity is why should the human-to-land-ratio exist period? What is scarcity all about? This all might well indicate we are the midst of heavy-duty schooling system experience. Where in fact the bigger (current events/ real world) societal systems could crash. Due to the oppressive ingredients of our lessons. To provoke us students with apparently needed stimulation. To design and build worthy models. Models that actually are filled with all the little and big features of a workable, livable life.

Perhaps to feel better about the current dilemma, we can just suppose that this school like dream will have a wakeup coming (soon?). We need all the prep we resonate with. In order to wake up or 'graduate' in the next phase. Or is it a next phase, each to there own type of phase after this phase. Not necessarily to be hordes into cramped world conditions again, full of psychopaths or AIs gone beserk. To lay out what we learned in this life. Perhaps to carry along the hard earned inspiration and stimulation form earth. Take these things to our next existence.

Since we don't know for sure what the big picture really is all about we can only guess.
My guess is that other civilizations do exist and this planet has a specific role to play within that spectrum.

IOW, if you have a city street with a variety of buildings, each with a purpose of it's own,
such as shopping mall, opera house, restaurant, etc. and one of those buildings is a gym,
then that is where planet Earth fits in. Earth is the gym of the galaxy.
For soul building.
Just as you build muscle in a gym, you come to Earth to build a soul.

Unfortunately the security is not quite 100% and so some come here thinking it is a restaurant and think we are to be eaten.

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by ulli (here)
Unfortunately the security is not quite 100% and so some come here thinking it is a restaurant and think we are to be eaten.

For me and i surely don't hold others to it... For me this might be the sort of energy which is normally used in schools. Like the rewards of good grades or the punishments for being the class fool. (Me ;-) Or the carrots, and the sticks, bread and circuses, big box mall, etc....

After all humans gorge themselves upon other life forms. In such a manner, usually by omission of inspecting each and every detail, of the being which later becomes human food. Or the being which is obliterated by irresponsible and destructive beings. Or specifically certain power-possessing beings who could work to correct the errant beings, but instead promote them to higher offices. Is this a harmonious condition for being existence? To preside over or to profit from lopsided modern systems-- By means of the "the pocket book" or the shopper's responsibility, is each person properly responsible in this world? Did we make due efforts to suitably adjust our lives of many years now?


I sort of wonder about this in the background of each decision.

[Carmody]

To give you an idea, I just ate a piece of chicken meat, from a barbequed chicken.

I did that... when I know better. which means the karmic weight is higher.

If I had done it in a state of innocence as to what I'm doing, then it would a decision and activity..fraught with..nothing.

Which is the problem for many of the top level elites.

They know better.

And there is no way out for them, unless they turn the corner --completely. Utterly.

If not.... we will meet in the Bardo, and they will be, shall we say....moved.

Then... what is of no use to evolution, will be... uhm... moved into being a neutral base level state. Lovingly. compassionately, carefully so.

But it will be done.

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I did that... when I know better. which means the karmic weight is higher.

Forgive me, as a recovering human analyzing the cover of comforts....

Are we victimized by our habituated comfort food models?
Will we ever self-habituate improved comfort models?
Or hunger for a nutritional/nutraceutical model?

Are we stuck with bridges of stoicism?
Or can we evolve a love to obviate comfort covers?

[ulli]

Posted by wavydome (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
I did that... when I know better. which means the karmic weight is higher.

Forgive me, as a recovering human analyzing the cover of comforts....

Are we victimized by our habituated comfort food models?
Will we ever self-habituate improved comfort models?
Or hunger for a nutritional/nutraceutical model?

Are we stuck with bridges of stoicism?
Or can we evolve a love to obviate comfort covers?

Good questions.
Not going to work for a perfectionist, though.
For a perfectionist only stoicism remains in the end, and not even bridges.

I wish I had enough authority to say, 'Carmody, you are forgiven. The chicken said so'.

[conk]

Carmody, I've always admired your intellectual acumen, but to learn you're a fan of RL Burnside....

I have small lamps made of red salt. They emit negative ions. I'm hoping that by keeping one close to me at all times I'm getting some benefit. Too small to be effective?

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
My thoughts in the matter are:

The problem comes when we get to the density where the town is big enough that there are persons you don't recognize.

This is the breeding ground for reflective narcissistic (politics) (STS overcomes STO)... and sociopathy.

Thus, common sense, empathy and compassion, via connection... disappear into LAW.

As I said in another thread..this seems to happen right around the 10,000 population mark/point, in a isolated grouping. If NOT isolated, the number happens at a lower population, simply due to capacity to easily move about and loose familiarity with one's neighbors and compatriots.

Below that population point, people will tend to band together, above that, it begins to move toward some level of disintegration, that enforced law is required or used as social cement. This, concerning human beings at their current level of development and integration.

When seriously high levels of population erupt, the association and empathic connection is lost..fear/unknown/unknowing/unfamiliarity/'defense mode thinking' becomes the base form of analysis... and people become subjectively objectified - in each other. Law is the real cement at that point, in most cases, due to the overwhelming aspects of how people run their lives like an emotionally driven automaton.

The human population, in most ways, runs itself like a predictable animal herd of a sort - regarding large groups.

Now, when we get into projection, when we get to those levels of fear projection, it can create collectively risen golems or tulpas.

Golems/tulpas are based or residual energies of the interface to the duality, the body/ego. At first they can seem friendly but eventually they turn and feed on fears and negative emotions..as they are 'unknowns' to us and as a reflection, below the conscious state. They are more intelligent but in an animal direction, which is the intelligence and temporal capacities of our true higher self, but reflected via our autonomous animal door or autonomous body functions. And they have access, in an animal/violent/compassionless/STS(in the extreme) way.

once you realize you have created them, they must feed on fears, the deepest autonomous mechanisms inside of us, designed to keep the avatar safe, these fears..they need to then turn and feed on fears to remain an animated projection. to keep 'a shape'. this is why tulps/golems are good at first, then turn nasty.

They have to feed on fears, as at that point, for you will try to dissolve them, so they move to fear, as fear is near the root of the avatar autonomous system, the last, deepest place it can hide, and remain as a projected reflection.

If you remain ignorant of the mechanism, you can't get rid of it,and your fears feed it. Thus the last thing the collective and individual golem/tulpa desires is for you to be in the knowing.

Same for the STS people who naturally gravitate toward it. Their projected power arises in the same moment of the city/state arising, due to population density and other factors. they step into the gap of ignorance..and manipulate from there.

The people that are infected by the desire to rule are all STS and sociopath, low empathy, more reptilian brained.

Recall the experiments in meditation about monks meditating in DC and dropping the crime rate. And so on. There are reams of material, that all fits.. in that direction. All of it fits.

Now, we are creators of reality, we can do amazing this with this space, besides ourselves being imbedded into this 3d reality matrix. But the autonomous function of the body..., when we get to that approximate 10,000 people or so, with regard to the size of cities, we give rise to a collective tulpa/golem based on our collectively enhanced fears and energetic coupling.

If you go back in history..and put the low empathy sociopathic STS persons in the situation of working with those energies (the opportunity arises for them, due to population density), you get cities, law, people run by fears..and a collective golem/tulpa.

Does that sound familiar? Go back those thousands of years...and look at the times when we finally arose to that approximate mass where people finally did not recognize each other, with regard to the sizes of the 'permanent' settlements.

When did this thing we deal with today, when and how, and under what conditions did it arise?

We get the rise of the collective golem/tulpa, controlled by the STS people....which they have given a name and we get all else associated with it. the trick is to keep us then ignorant of the how, the what....and what to do, to cancel it out.

And that's all it is ---and ever was.

[Carmody]

Posted by conk (here)
Carmody, I've always admired your intellectual acumen, but to learn you're a fan of RL Burnside....

I have small lamps made of red salt. They emit negative ions. I'm hoping that by keeping one close to me at all times I'm getting some benefit. Too small to be effective?

According to a bit of a story that I heard from a reliable source, there may be problems with the salt lamps. I'm not sure. I'll ask again what the story is, and maybe get more clarity.

As for RL, who wouldn't be? I'm a fan of all good music. RL's earliest works (the disc pictured) are really something else, though.

[Flash]

From Carmody: We get the rise of the collective golem/tulpa, controlled by the STS people....which they have given a name and we get all else associated with it. the trick is to keep us then ignorant of the how, the what....and what to do, to cancel it out.

This is the question demanding an answer (in bold).

This Golem/tulpac things seems so true to me. Are they the same as those "formes pensée" that we create collectively, as seen in some south eastern teachings? Are the "formes pensée" a precursor to the Golem? (from other description Golem seems to be still more materialised).

When travelling to a new city, I usually can sense the city just by putting my foot out of the plane (as long as the airport in very near of in the city). It is a kind of vibration, I call it the City song, that has an impact on me and tells me how light,, or heavy, or condensed the thinking/feeling/living is around. Although this may as well be linked with geomagnetic conditions of the place, I always felt it was more linked with the thinking/feeling patterns of the collectivity living there. I could litterally describe main cities I have been in with those terms. I now wonder if I am tapping into the City's main golem.

But the question remains, once the first step of accepting the fact that we create absolutely everything of our environment, individually and collectively, (which is quite difficult to accept to start with, i.e. full responsibility), what do we do to cancel the golem. And its STS surroundings. Collective cleansing???

[ulli]

Posted by Flash (here)

From Carmody: We get the rise of the collective golem/tulpa, controlled by the STS people....which they have given a name and we get all else associated with it. the trick is to keep us then ignorant of the how, the what....and what to do, to cancel it out.

This is the question demanding an answer (in bold).

This Golem/tulpac things seems so true to me. Are they the same as those "formes pensée" that we create collectively, as seen in some south eastern teachings? Are the "formes pensée" a precursor to the Golem? (from other description Golem seems to be still more materialised).

When travelling to a new city, I usually can sense the city just by putting my foot out of the plane (as long as the airport in very near of in the city). It is a kind of vibration, I call it the City song, that has an impact on me and tells me how light,, or heavy, or condensed the thinking/feeling/living is around. Although this may as well be linked with geomagnetic conditions of the place, I always felt it was more linked with the thinking/feeling patterns of the collectivity living there. I could litterally describe main cities I have been in with those terms. I now wonder if I am tapping into the City's main golem.

But the question remains, once the first step of accepting the fact that we create absolutely everything of our environment, individually and collectively, (which is quite difficult to accept to start with, i.e. full responsibility), what do we do to cancel the golem. And its STS surroundings. Collective cleansing???

Interesting. I always had those same ideas about cities and their individual identities.

The golem is not real, it is lifeless, so to cancel it we just create the new infra structure of the world we wish to see.
We each direct our energy to where we perceive growth momentum of something good that we think will stand the test of time.
I believe there is no other way. It will take our mind off dead thought forms.
The same goes for the victims. They need to embrace a healthy and wholesome life style and really, really commit to letting go the ancient memories of suffering.
It is over.
I will take my advice here. I never shared my memories here, and even though they got triggered I am now ready to dump them for good. Thank you, Houman, and everyone.
This is a new day. Birds are singing.