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[Calz]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

I was so glad it came in my size. :D

Songsie???


Say it ain't so ...

[Calz]

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Songsie???


Say it ain't so ...

[IMG] insert hideous zombie looking thing here[/IMG]

I did try the shrieking zombie undead suit but it didn't fit, and my wild, garnet colored curls didn't seem to suit the look.

[Swan]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
Having said that, I would also like to clarify that the clearing I'm doing isn't like this at all- it's a direct engagement with deliberate contracts that have nothing to do with me and that I actively and consciously am dissolving. The difference is in my understanding of the nature of contracts and how they work in law and commerce. There is a specific intention and purpose in binding another to a contract and it is this specific intention, purpose and claim of 'ownership' that I am dissolving.

I am trying this on an issue I´ve had for as long as I can remember. My sense is - this makes sense

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Also cross-posted from the same thread - thanks for pointing me to it.

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

If one understands the nature of vibrational physics, understands that nothing is not electromagnetic vibration dictated by those physics, then one can understand what is meant by ascension.

This comes close to describing the way I perceive reality, and have my whole life. I perceive all matter as Light vibrating at a certain frequency, including my physical vehicle. The rate of vibration is increasing. My personal frequency increase is accelerating. This is not theory, it is direct experience, at least for me.

I once proved to myself I could 'see' with an antenna array of nerves in my hands, by being able to identify the colors of otherwise identical writing pens by the rate of vibrations 'felt' when waving my hands about 4-5 inches above the object to be perceived.

mountain_jim, this is right in my area of interest when it comes to my physical avatar. I find I am increasingly aware of the frequency and expression of it that I am manifesting in this avatar; it's part of the mechanism I'm using to dissolve the contracts and to evolve both my expression of and experience within my Self as this avatar.

I get this, I always did, even before I had the language of it: I saw things as distilling into ever more interesting expressions, with ever more complex possibilities. I have never, ever understood why individuals kept saying that they couldn't wait to get out of their physical body and back into non-corporeal: to me, the physical realms are the only ones I've ever enjoyed, it's just that the current paradigms controlling this particular physical reality clunk like a badly built car that's been made out of wrought iron covered in overcooked sago and hideous paisley tweed.

I love the kind of experiments you refer to: I have long felt that this is how individuals like Stevie Wonder can 'see' color- he also holds his hands above things and can tell what color they are. It makes perfect sense to me because of my experiences with my synesthesia, and mine is really really weak compared to what it used to be. I'm working on reconnecting with it in a much more solid way- I love the taste and sound of color, and how words taste and feel in my mouth, and the colors of words and sound...

the vibrational frequency multiverse, all waiting to be explored with a great deal more creative exuberance than it currently is.

For me ascending is not a bad term, it is a logical (to me) result of increasing frequency vibration rate out of the range of the vibration rates of the 3D matter reality currently shared here. Whether that can happen in an existing vehicle for one such as myself remains to be seen.

*grins at you* and really, that's the biggest game that's afoot at the moment, isn't it, the 'choose your reality!'. I too am curious regarding the current avatar thing: every kinesiology test I've ever done says this vehicle is staying, just morphing, so I'm interested to see how that turns out. I've never had a positive 'yes' test on the physical death question, no matter how far into the future I go, which has bothered some kinesiologists that have asked that question. My previous kinesiologist only ever asked my body once how old I was, lol.

He also only ever asked once if I was 'human', too; the answer he got to that changed the way he asked questions of my body from that point on. :D

I loved how you expressed this ascending perspective.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Swan (here)
I am trying this on an issue I´ve had for as long as I can remember. My sense is - this makes sense

*nodding* the threads of the subtle sensation of being considered 'owned' and how I have been unconsciously trained to accept this on our deepest levels are indeed fascinating to unravel when I begin to see them. I currently have an issue with the left side of my throat that keeps trying to tell me it 'owns' me- I'm going into it tonight and dissolving the contracts there.

I'm also finding it fascinating to observe the billions of tiny signals and feelers that permeate and infuse the society around me: I am becoming so aware that I'm living in an environment of falling green numbers and illusions.



Everything that I observe in the expression of society looks like that. It's getting really interesting, this world I'm moving into...

I'd love to hear how your code dissolving goes.

[songsfortheotherkind]

aha, I found this comment again and can reply to it! Huzzah!

Posted by Mad Hatter (here)
Mad Hatter shouts the bar a round of 'nangs' with DMT chasers...

I'll be having me a vit B12 shot, it will have similar effects. I am considering playing with DMT *and* will be doing it in the company of some serious energy hackers, just in case I get in and can't get out. It has been this thought that has prevented me from playing with those spaces with regards psychotropics, but after my shamanic B12 experience (and my less rugged spirolina level ups) I'm thinking either DMT or shrooms will be interesting. I'll be making a tincture from the shrooms so that I can best control the dose though, given that I generally require a quarter or less than what others require to achieve the same effect: in the days before I parted ways from coffee I can remember the looks I'd get by asking for an eighth of a teaspoon of coffee in my cup.

When starting from any point there are an infinite number of possible directions to take (think spherical) so for those speaking ascension can you explain to me how you figure out which way is up...

*falls about laughing* does it matter? I love this sentence, it's just awesome given the holographic universe- how about exploring deeper into the signal rather than 'ascension'? although mountain_jim did have a great perspective on it too. :D

Inner compass eh... so which magnet is that pointing at...?

*rolls eyes impatiently* at the centre and source of everything cool and froody, of course, which would be me in essence mode! In my 'Verse that is, I have no freakin' clue what's happening in anyone else's.

For those who like punching energy at the virus - 'a ducks quack does not echo' - try that frequency it sends them nuts.(no reflection no triangulation)

this is an awesome point. I am contemplating and experimenting with this forsooth. love the frequency stuff- I've been doing the dissolving from a different perspective and angle, but for some of the manifestations this would be way more effective.

I likes it!

For those needing a pointless contemplative adventure I've got a box full of bent spoons in the boot of the 'Bitsaremissing' out in the carpark, mind the improbability drive doesn't bite you on the arse tho...

there is no spoon. and now I know why- YOU have them all.

bastard! just as well I don't drink coffee anymore. let's turn them into an artsy windchime.

Ahh yes the light, the light, only required by those who have never learned to see in the dark...

*more laughter* This is the reason I wanted to reply to this post, to comment on my deep appreciation for this sentence. So gleesticks.

Posted by Mad Hatter (here)

or one seeks to return to the place where all possibilities exist but none are chosen so all Art is possible but none is actually ever created.

Bingo!! Been there done that, boring as bat **** (no offence meant to bats) now what???

*makes wavy motions with her arms* what? you heretic! you are not bedazzled by the notion that the penultimate goal is to return to Source and the place of no-doing-anything-whatsoever? that just indicates your lack of spiritual discernment and development!

Fantastic- you're just the sort of Not A Starfighter we're looking for! Please step this way- we have tons of fun stuff in endless dimensions for Beings who want to play. *big cheesy grin*

*saunters over to the juke box*

-wait, Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs? Either you're an Aussie, or you've got a very very eclectic and rare taste in music, because I've *never* met someone from outside Oz who has a clue who Billy Thorpe is. Or Russell Morris. Or Flash and the Pan...

Great song! Great memories of my mother, dancing in the garden while growing yet another vegie patch we'd move too soon to eat from...

PS Songs thanks for the upload on didge decorations I'll now not feel guilty when the daughters blast away on the vacuum cleaner pipe whilst the old man pretends he can play the N.T. one he has...

No worries- it's inspired me to start playing again too. Great for the lungs, when one can get more than the sound of a flatulent elephant out of it. N.T., huh- gift, or you've been outback? Few are the ones who have heard the didge played in the middle of the desert silence...

IMNSHO Jorr summed it up nicely "I am responsible for wot I say, not wot you understand"

That was my favorite part of his sig.

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)
[B][SIZE="3"]Being half Finn-

*looks at Whiskey_Mystic with speculative interest*

Which half?

[songsfortheotherkind]

I get time to reply.

Posted by onawah (here)
The urge to disengage from the matrix/virus is there in all of us-

I truly do not experience this and generally encounter the total opposite, the sometimes violent reaction when the other individual experiences me as being a signal source of disengagement from the matrix. I really don't experience much interest at all in the majority in disengaging from the construct; if anything, they just want it to be more user friendly.

but like flies in honey, we become so weakened eventually it may appear the only way back to Source is recycling via death of the body,

I perceive and experience this slightly differently; I see that the death is the only way that essence can free its Self from the trap that has wound around it. I absolutely do not see death as an inevitable part of physical incarnation: recycling, from my perspective, is just downright time, resource and experience wasting. It's clunky and irritating, at least to one that spends all their time in the physical realms.

unless we learn how to detoxify and heal, how to build the kind of community that nurtures us instead of exploiting us.

That is one of my passions. My focus on sui generis and do no harm is founded in the vision of the kind of 'Verse I want to live in.: one in which intelligence, co-creation and acceptance of infinite possibility of expression are the baseline platform. No harm. All wide open.

In my life, I have dipped into various groups, organizations and communities all over the U.S...So life became a sort of nomadic journey, migrating from place to place to find those little treasures, to share what I could, then on to the next...
Because the possibilities of finding others on the same wavelength is so difficult, I've become a recluse now for the most part, taking refuge largely in my connection with Nature, animals and art, with very few real connections with others.

I really get the recluse thing: there are few that I truly connect with in the physical realm around me. I've had a similar past with the nomadism, less so with communities: I only lived in three and each was short lived due to the virus embedded in them. There are things that just are with me: I cannot wear watches, digital or hand wound, because I break them; the computers in the house only work because my partner lives here and they love him (his old computer used to switch herself on when he walked into the room); and I am a catalyst for change. I've gotten tired of the negativity around that, so I don't engage much in the physical world.

Now what I come up against most is ageism and classism and the unnamed ism that discriminates against the disabled, which I think goes much deeper, as in the case of the instinctive behavior of the pack to kill the member which could slow the pack down and endanger the survival of all.

That would be so for those that are certain types of animals. Whales, dolphins and higher apes will nurse a sick family member until the sick one either recovers or dies. They will never abandon their own until it is clear that they have gone. I remember watching something about a whale that was supported in turn by its entire pod as it struggled to recover from a sickness; while the pod did this the songs were constant. When the whale finally died, they gathered around it and sang a different song for a long time, before the one supporting it finally sank beneath the water. They followed their dead loved one down until the observers couldn't track them anymore, the females staying in the upper reaches with the young calves. I have seen pictures of higher apes carrying and grooming their dead babies until there was nothing left to carry; adult baboons coming across dead babies and stopping to mourn and hold them, regardless of which family group the lost one might have come from.

Chimpanzees, however, aren't like this.

I would have given anything to remain there and go further into that realm of wonder, but the community fell apart, as they so often do, and so I was thrust back into 'civilization' and barely survived the culture shock.

This must have been a really difficult readjustment. I can remember that, when we walked away from the JWs.

Later, my imaginary ideal became to live in a matriarchal culture, ala those described by Marija Gimbutus in her books such as The Civilization of the Goddess, where everyone's basic needs were met, there were no wars, and cooperation rather than competition was the foundation of all interactions.

This is a really interesting model, although I'm not familiar with the books you mention. I have had discussions with full on patriarchs that freely admit there'd be no wars or competition in a matriarchal based world; they felt this would be a bad thing. Unsurprising.

Most other intentional communities I found to be too structured and patriarchal.

Yup. Hence me being a spork in the eye most of the time.

Though it seems it will be done with technology this time

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what idea/picture are you looking at when you say this? I'm intrigued.

and possibly in partnership with other extraterrestrial civilizations who have learned how to cooperate and will perhaps show us how it's done.

Hrm. That hasn't gone well for the ETs in the past...

The other relationships I am reaching out for now is via Contact with ET/EDs, and I was very much heartened by the success of my first attempt this March, when I went out under the stars with a friend and after several hours of telepathic requests for a "sign", was witness to three flashes of a beautiful, celestial light just overhead, in a similar sequence to the flashes I had been emitting with my flashlight. I SOOOO want to experience more of that!!

Same. I'm also working on dissolving the veil between my Otherealms and this one.

I've given up on finding a community that I would fit into, but my ideal vacation now would be to go to James Gilliland's ECETI Ranch, have some major Contact experiences and take a class from their master of bi-location...
Or go to Maui for a retreat with Nassim Haramein and deprogram old ideas about how the Universe works.

ECETI sounds really cool. I know someone who goes there because she knows James and she has told me many great stories about what she personally witnessed there. Is James still locked down, as in not allowed to travel internationally? She said he'd had his passport taken from him at one point.

And I appreciate very much this window to other souls who I can at least to some degree understand, appreciate and enjoy, and who may have some inkling as to where I am coming from, and appreciate and enjoy me as well. So... Cheers! to Songs and pub patrons.

I do love this resonance and multiple perspectives.

[Cerridwen]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
30 years ago the word 'google' was unknown- now it is a verb, amongst other things,

Actually 30 years ago, when I was in school, a 'google' was a number. It's a 1 with 100 zeros after it. A googleplex was a google to the googleth (spell?) power.

Yeah, it's right up there with a murder of crows! *Giggles*

[songsfortheotherkind]

Posted by Cerridwen (here)

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
30 years ago the word 'google' was unknown- now it is a verb, amongst other things,

Actually 30 years ago, when I was in school, a 'google' was a number. It's a 1 with 100 zeros after it. A googleplex was a google to the googleth (spell?) power.

Yeah, it's right up there with a murder of crows! *Giggles*

I could have put that better- I knew it existed in the maths world, but generally only to other mathematicians. Now it's known by my partner's dad, who is as square and uninteresting as the squares in Cry Baby. Even squarer. Square to the power of cubed, in fact. He wears sandals with socks. What more can be said?

*hugs you, laughing*

[songsfortheotherkind]

In other news, I thought this nine day journey would be easier this time.

It really isn't. I don't think I'm ever going to not want it to not be real.

Today the mother of the baby my partner is being the father to rang me in tears; this conception journey just places one obstacle after another for her. I spoke with her for awhile and helped her feel more grounded and ok; then I drove into Mullum, bought her yummy food and flowers. I stood in the florists and looked at the offerings, finally selecting some purple and white orchids and some green crysanthemums. I bought two sparkly butterflies that have clips so that they can be clipped into one's hair or one one's clothing: hers was green, mine was purple. I gave her the flowers and she said that the orchids are her most favorite flower; I told her that the butterflies were for us to wear until our baby girl is conceived and safely born. She cried in happiness and hugged me. I told her receptionist why she was crying, and her receptionist got emotional about it all too, so I went and bought her a red butterfly for her hair. She's going to wear hers too.

I have my purple one in my hair. I'm thinking about another gorgeous baby girl born 29 years ago, with damp, dark hair and the most stunning blue eyes, the tiniest bundle I ever had. I know I will always remember that. Right now it's not that I'm recalling and I am skirting the 9th with knowing eyes: I know there's nothing I can do about it. I know that she is still somewhere, out there, doing her thing; I know we are in many avatars and dimensions.

I birthed her here, though. I carried her in me and she was from me. I remember the awe in that. I remember what it was like to put the flowers around her face in her coffin, the bewildered 18 year old in me holding our baby in her arms and looking down through time at me with such pain and confusion in her eyes as my tears fell on my daughter's face: how could this future be in store for this exquisite and perfect little Being? And then the 18 year old in me looked down at our daughter and back up at me and I saw it in her: if this is all we get, her eyes told me, it's worth it.

If I live to be 100,000 years old in this avatar, if I pull off immortality, and yet never encounter her again, it will have been worth it. It was worth it for the few short years we had Lydia. And I know that when our new baby comes into the world, her tiny fingers wrapped around my finger, surrounded by love and joy and welcome, she will be worth everything, too.

Tonight I'm reaching into the past and standing beside an exhausted and battered 18 year old whose pain has vanished with the presence of her newborn in her arms, her heart and eyes opened wide in astonishment, her head bent over the tiny one in rapture. I know the smell, the feel, of that tiny Being in my arms. I remember the last time I hugged her, on her 26th birthday. She was such a wisp of a thing even then, but the power in her was phenomenal. I thought she was a force of nature. I still think it.

My heart rides a rollercoaster, these nine journey days. In my heart realm, she'll always be safe in my arms.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
Also cross-posted from the same thread - thanks for pointing me to it.

I love the kind of experiments you refer to: I have long felt that this is how individuals like Stevie Wonder can 'see' color- he also holds his hands above things and can tell what color they are. It makes perfect sense to me because of my experiences with my synesthesia, and mine is really really weak compared to what it used to be. I'm working on reconnecting with it in a much more solid way- I love the taste and sound of color, and how words taste and feel in my mouth, and the colors of words and sound...

the vibrational frequency multiverse, all waiting to be explored with a great deal more creative exuberance than it currently is.

For me ascending is not a bad term, it is a logical (to me) result of increasing frequency vibration rate out of the range of the vibration rates of the 3D matter reality currently shared here. Whether that can happen in an existing vehicle for one such as myself remains to be seen.

*grins at you* and really, that's the biggest game that's afoot at the moment, isn't it, the 'choose your reality!'. I too am curious regarding the current avatar thing: every kinesiology test I've ever done says this vehicle is staying, just morphing, so I'm interested to see how that turns out. I've never had a positive 'yes' test on the physical death question, no matter how far into the future I go, which has bothered some kinesiologists that have asked that question. My previous kinesiologist only ever asked my body once how old I was, lol.

He also only ever asked once if I was 'human', too; the answer he got to that changed the way he asked questions of my body from that point on. :D

I loved how you expressed this ascending perspective.

I now feel truly welcomed here in this Pub At The End of the Universe

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[onawah]

I think the urge to connect and live with Nature in a harmonious way is innate in the human genome; it just gets so shut down as to be invisible and dormant in most, but is still there in some vestigal form, at least.
Certainly Monsanto, EMFs, fluoridation, chemtrails and all the rest that is provided to us free of charge is there to insure that dormancy is the rule.
And all the virus-inspired machinations that have been in place for so long to keep the masses enslaved and asleep...
I have to remind myself sometimes just to give myself credit for being as awake as I am.

I've known a few other people whose energy is just too much for electrical devices to withstand.
I am one who is very sensitive to EMFs, though I have built a cocoon of energy around my computer with crystals, houseplants, feng shui, etc. so I can be on it for long hours.
Though I should really be outdoors more, or doing art. Being online is still a bit of a compulsion with me.

To my knowledge, on this planet at this time, at least, physical death has been pretty much inevitable except in a few cases, such as Babaji, and perhaps ETs who live in ancient underground bases and cities, etc, but I think that is at least as much due to the constraints of the current topside paradigm, as to physical causes, but the two can't really be separated,
But that is changing, hopefully
Even so, from what I have read, there is a limit to lifespans even in some highly evolved ET races, so perhaps some kind of "fresh start" is still desirable on occasion even at those levels of evolution.
I see the time between incarnations as a kind of deep processing respite for most humans, which is possible only if we aren't distracted by physicality,
Reportedly, that is not the case in more advanced civilizations, and has not always been so on this planet, either.
(Perhaps you are new to this planet?)

I have been incarnating here for a long time, as far as I have been able to ascertain, and so I guess I must have decided the physical plane is where it's at, as well....but I am certainly looking forward to things lightening up more earthside now, as I feel it is beginning to...
Like Mountain Jim, I feel it as a change in frequencies, but I think it's not just an individual thing, I think the whole planet's frequency is changing.
And those who can't change with it will be incarnating elsewhere, which will certainly simplify things considerably.

I read widely, take what resonates and leave the rest behind.
Even from the sources that I take from, like you, I see virus, but it is a process of weeding out and discernment, piecing together a wholistic view with what I borrow with what from direct experience I can take as being true.
Sometimes what I have taken to be true will have to be tossed out later on and replaced with an upgraded view.
It's odd, because sometimes I will see something from one source as being total BS, while something else from the same source feels like a gem.
The direct experiences are most precious, but more rare, and those I use for guidelines in sifting through the rest.
Some people I trust more than others, like Dr. Hills, who was a true visionary IMHO; even though I don't really understand much of the science, the concepts behind it rings true for me.

Some things I can't wrap my mind around, like parallel realities, so I don't worry about it, and just try to envision the best reality I can for myself, and create that.

I am a catalyst for change. I've gotten tired of the negativity around that, so I don't engage much in the physical world.

Yes, it's like that for me too. Also tired of being a new person in town, with all the moving around I've done.
I've been in the town where I am living now going on 5 years, but still feel like a stranger, for the most part.
My closest soul group family are still in California, which I left over 20 years ago, though I'm still in touch.
Nomadic life can get lonely...
Yes, there are certainly animals which display more compassion than many humans for their ailing and dying members, no question.

I can remember that, when we walked away from the JWs

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The JWs? Apologies, I haven't read all your posts on this thread.

Gimbutus' work was disputed by most male scholars, who could not countenance the possibility that humans could ever actually live in peace and prosper, but if you google her, you will find quite a lot about her work online, nevertheless.

Though it seems it will be done with technology this time

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I just meant that, from all I have been able to discover about the newest, most imaginative trends in envisioning a new paradigm, it appears that that paradigm will involve returning to a more balanced one of gender equality, with Nature being honored, and basic needs being met for all as in the matriarchal construct; only we will be doing it with free energy technology similar to that which was used in Atlantis.
It seems that many ETs have been incarnating here in order to help bring that about, and many children are coming in with upgraded DNA who will be more able to help create and plug into that newly emerging paradigm.
Many here now were present in Atlantis in her heyday, and have memories of those times.
Drunvalo Melchizadek, James Tyberonn and others have been mining data along those lines for quite awhile now, as have many others, though those are two I am more familiar with.
Perhaps none of the people in this field have been able to break totally free of virus, but I think it is still possible to detect where truth and likelihood are able to shine through the fog, if one is willing to dig for it.

I don't know if Gilliland is able to travel again internationally, but there has been some local conflicts going on that I think have still not been resolved.
Calz would probably be the person to have the latest on that.

Nice chatting with you!

[Pagan]

After the invitation, I am here and just the idea of reading all this thread trough, pondering and concluding... Ill go back to sleep. Wake me up and overwhelm me again at post # 350. Or just do what it takes...

[songsfortheotherkind]

I'm going to answer this in short bursts, as I have an urge to deal with practical matters today: the house needs cleaning, I want to get some training shoes for me and warm slippers for the Tiny Empress and Supergirl, things like that so that I can relax and immerse my Self in energetic practices.

The thing that I wanted to answer first was this:

I see the time between incarnations as a kind of deep processing respite for most humans, which is possible only if we aren't distracted by physicality,
Reportedly, that is not the case in more advanced civilizations, and has not always been so on this planet, either.
(Perhaps you are new to this planet?)

Um, it's the other way around: I'm from those places that *don't* do constant recycling (rebirth/reincarnation), and you're right, originally the constant recycling wasn't part of things on this planet either. I'm familiar with intentionally shifting avatars (what others call 'walking in') and that's how I got here this time (in a manner of sorts- more like K-Pax than what is traditionally called walking in) because the traditional view of how one walks in actually doesn't take into account the avatar signal- essentially one has to have been associated with the physical avatar from conception or else the avatar can't accept the signal. It's not accidental or random at all, it's that most walk ins lose their memories or at best have them rather scrambled when walking in to a human avatar. This doesn't happen in other places and arrangements.

So no, I'm not new to this planet at all, I have memories that encompass the vision to create it, as well as being here *long* before the anunnaki arrived and created the homo sapiens. I've written about that here in the Pub. I'm not human/homo sapiens, so I don't enjoy non-corporeal existence: I do have memories of a downtime after my first intentional encounter with the anunnaki and that almost wiped me out of this realm permanently, so I'm aware of the incredibly skilled healers that work in those non-corporeal healing centres. As far as I'm aware, after that first brush with near annihilation from this realm I haven't ended up in their ICU since, although that does mark an 'angel of death' time for me.

I've known a few other people whose energy is just too much for electrical devices to withstand.
I am one who is very sensitive to EMFs, though I have built a cocoon of energy around my computer with crystals, houseplants, feng shui, etc. so I can be on it for long hours.

I tweaked my biology. I've got filters running that allow me to work on the computer and not get floored by lights and EMR, *and* that only works to a degree before my essence boots me out of the space and yells in my ear that I need to go and do physical stuff to rebalance. I'm going to get a grounding mat to have my feet on while I'm working (one of those mats that have the silver in them) and I think that will help, as will the return of the warm and working outside with my bare feet on the ground.

I agree with you about the art and being in nature- we're tweaking our life so that I can have more of this, balance out my different elements more. I have a passion for martial arts training and water dance/dance, so I'm going back to hapkido and some dance training now that it's winter and I've gotten my thyroid stuff worked out enough to be able to defuse the contracts on it that were making me so ill. It's a work in progress, so I'm just taking up the process of new practices.

We're moving to a new house where I have an uninterrupted view of the local ET hang out, Mt Chincogan. We're going back to growing our massive organic gardens and I'll be creating an energy training space that looks across to Chincogan her Self, so I'll be reconnecting with all the energies here that keep me in this area despite the number of times I've tried to leave it: I've just accepted now that this is where energy wants me based when I'm in Australia.

Posted by onawah (here)
I think the urge to connect and live with Nature in a harmonious way is innate in the human genome; it just gets so shut down as to be invisible and dormant in most, but is still there in some vestigal form, at least.

In my 'Verse, the one I came in remembering, it is the Otherkind genomes that carry the call to nature and that connected living; the homo sapiens genes carry the distortion and the desire to destroy the source of higher frequency signal around them, which in part is the planet. Otherkind are carriers of the cosmic connection signal, the Life frequency, and homo sapiens are the walking dead because they have little connection to that signal: they have enough to exist but it isn't something they resonate to, it clashes with the DNA of their makers and the other elements that are in them.

There are no pure homo sapiens on this planet now. The first two batches had to be completely destroyed due to their horrendous natures- so abhorrent that even their makers couldn't accept it and that history is embedded in many mythohistories; there was another near total destruction of the third iteration and since then the Otherkind element has been so intentionally mixed in that what exists now is a sliding scale of hybridisation, with 'tending towards majority homo sapiens genes' on one end of the spectrum and 'tending towards majority Otherkind genes' on the other. This hybridisation results in two broad energy experiences and ways of Being: the majority still carry the more homo sapiens genetics due to the manipulations of the mind virus and it's periodic attempts to wipe out the Otherkind element, which ironically it knows it can't actually do completely because without the Otherkind signal, everything they have created will die. Which is why all the historical religious records indicate that the anunnaki have long known the checkmate of their situation- they've known it ever since the Otherkind appeared en masse and set up some boundaries and limits, which is openly discussed in the bible, an anunnaki document, as well as other virus created religious histories. Agent Smith told the world why this was so- the anunnaki needed the Otherkind signal to make their slaves functional and able to reproduce, the Otherkind signal needs an element of truth in the lies for the lies to work on the homo sapiens that carry the Otherkind genetics in dominance. Their solution was also their ruin.

So personally, I don't equate the deep inner prompting to connect with energy and nature as a human genome thing; I prefer to speak of it in non human terms, because Otherkind is a term I use that describes all other incarnated Beings and non-corporeals that carry the Evolution signal, the frequency of the multiverse. The unevolved anunnaki and homo sapiens don't have that signal and it's readily observable- at least to me- in their actions and signal. 'By their fruits you will know them'. Yup.

In the end, that I see this one way and others see it another is irrelevant to me; what's important is that an understanding emerges regarding the different kinds of frequency and that below a certain point the frequency is anti-life, regardless of who is manifesting it.

Certainly Monsanto, EMFs, fluoridation, chemtrails and all the rest that is provided to us free of charge is there to insure that dormancy is the rule.

I see these things primarily as an response to high vibration signal- the controllers are trying to find the balance between enough toxicity to keep the signal below their intolerance point, and keeping it high enough for them to feed from. It's also a spiritual process, because while the population tolerates it, it's going to happen. They're choosing their reality every day. Personally, I've tweaked my physical avatar to the point where I'm immune to the chemtrails and I just don't get sick when everyone else does.

*I* own my Self and avatar, not them and their encoding- this is what started me on that path, because I was able to reprogram my body...

Being online is still a bit of a compulsion with me.

It's one of the only places I can find Beings that get the sui generis concept in any degree of depth.

I see the time between incarnations as a kind of deep processing respite for most humans, which is possible only if we aren't distracted by physicality,

I find *non* physicality really incredibly distracting and annoying. Perhaps I'm one of the original group of Beings that *caused* physicality to emerge, who knows? I do know that there is a general feeling of 'keep her out of here, if possible' in some of the non-corporeal realms- I get the impression of the mind numbingly bored kid in the back of the class flicking bits of paper around and trying to achieve macrame level knots with my etheric legs while waiting for something un-Entlike to happen.

Like Mountain Jim, I feel it as a change in frequencies, but I think it's not just an individual thing, I think the whole planet's frequency is changing. And those who can't change with it will be incarnating elsewhere, which will certainly simplify things considerably.

Interestingly, I keep getting mixed signals about that one- is it them that goes somewhere else, or us? It appears that this one is yet undecided- I do know there's a ton of massive sized ships around lately, and I've been asking them 'are you guys arks or removalists?' but so far they're shaking their heads at me. I may go and see if I can snoop around...

I read widely, take what resonates and leave the rest behind.
Even from the sources that I take from, like you, I see virus, but it is a process of weeding out and discernment, piecing together a wholistic view with what I borrow with what from direct experience I can take as being true.
Sometimes what I have taken to be true will have to be tossed out later on and replaced with an upgraded view.

This is how I do things too, which makes sense to me because of the sui generis- there's utterly no such thing as one size fits all.

Some things I can't wrap my mind around, like parallel realities, so I don't worry about it, and just try to envision the best reality I can for myself, and create that.

Which is really the essence of the undertaking- what good is it if consensus reality rules? Useless, in terms of the evolution/complexity signal.

The JWs? Apologies, I haven't read all your posts on this thread.

Jehovah's Witnesses- the other energy Being I shared this avatar with got her Self utterly caught up in the matrix there for awhile... it was beyond my understanding and I left for the duration.

Gimbutus' work was disputed by most male scholars, who could not countenance the possibility that humans could ever actually live in peace and prosper, but if you google her, you will find quite a lot about her work online, nevertheless.

Thanks for that suggestion, I've never heard of her. I will go have a squizz when the time permits.

I just meant that, from all I have been able to discover about the newest, most imaginative trends in envisioning a new paradigm, it appears that that paradigm will involve returning to a more balanced one of gender equality, with Nature being honored, and basic needs being met for all as in the matriarchal construct; only we will be doing it with free energy technology similar to that which was used in Atlantis.

I remember Atlantis going rather pear shaped but I wasn't involved in that whole thing first hand, I was blipping in and out as an observer of what I experience as a major Anun experiment after the rebellion. There were some brilliant ideas involved in that experimental community. Lots of learning for future evolutions, although the Anun learned the hard way that their bretheren weren't going to tolerate their presence in a big way. That was a major rescue job...

It seems that many ETs have been incarnating here in order to help bring that about, and many children are coming in with upgraded DNA who will be more able to help create and plug into that newly emerging paradigm.
Many here now were present in Atlantis in her heyday, and have memories of those times.
Drunvalo Melchizadek, James Tyberonn and others have been mining data along those lines for quite awhile now, as have many others, though those are two I am more familiar with.

Mmmm, I've been observing the numbers of Starkind increasing- lots of Starkind walk ins too, although I haven't directly been engaged by any yet. I'm sending out the signal that I'm open to it, given my horrendous experience of it- I'm aware that it can be done much more easily *and* we need a place to do it. It will be interesting to have Starkind, Anun and Otherkind all back in the same place again, and all the hybridisations of those elements... *big cheesy grin*

Perhaps none of the people in this field have been able to break totally free of virus, but I think it is still possible to detect where truth and likelihood are able to shine through the fog, if one is willing to dig for it.

I don't know truth, I just go with resonance: truth being the subjective thing that it is, and the interpretation of same being the foundation for so much conflict when One Truth is expounded- and then pounded. I like the word resonance, because my resonance doesn't have to look like anyone else's. This is Shiny for everyone involved. :D

I don't know if Gilliland is able to travel again internationally, but there has been some local conflicts going on that I think have still not been resolved. Calz would probably be the person to have the latest on that.

Thanks, I'll point that question at him or he can just respond to this:

*shouts down the hallway* Hey, I know you're listening- can you fill me in on the situation with James and travel at all?

Nice chatting with you!

*bows, grinning* Same here.

[onawah]

PS Songs, have you seen WCBD's post here yet?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...pening/page726

[onawah]

Songs, for thyroid, have you tried Royal Peruvian Maca?
It's been very big with the raw foodists for quite a while now.
It can help to rejuvenate the endocrine system.
I've been taking it daily for a number of years and it really helps keep me grounded.

I understand what you mean by truth.
Perhaps 'probabilities' is a better word.
Defining it is a slippery slope, but that's good practice for seeing in the dark, at least.

I will probably have to go back now and read more of your posts on your Otherkind history, which intrigues me.
I didn't realize you are a walk-in.
(Can you give me an approximate page in the thread to start in?
Thanks!)

Wow! You don't actually mean Jehovah's Witnesses?
I can by no stretch of the imagination see you in one of those cells, though perhaps the Australian ones aren't as boring and pasty faced as the American ones generally are.
That is sure convincing proof that you must be a walk-in!
I still remember the sad JWs that used to come to our door when I was young and the polite excuses I would struggle to come up with to get them to leave asap, without hurting their feelings.
Here in Arkansas, one is more inclined to run into Mormons, who I find much more obnoxious.
But I always felt so sorry for the JWs.
Even to as young a girl as I was, they looked so very lost to me.
Finally, as a young adult, I would just say, "Sorry, I'm a Hindu" or a Buddhist, or a Wiccan, or whatever path I was exploring at the time.
That got rid of them quickly enough, though I was a little sorry to shock them so...

I identify much more with what I think are the Pleiadian origins of my soul group than I do with what I think you are identifying as humankind.
And the "humans" I do have some resonance with I'm sure all have some otherkind in them, as they aren't your run of the mill humans.

And the Annunaki woman I met was not my cup of tea at all.
She ended up moving to New York City, with the ambition of becoming a super model, which I could imagine her being. VERY ambitious!

Mad Hatter is certainly in top form lately!
I am missing Borden's self deprecating humor.
I hope he is not drinking alone these days.

[mountain_jim]

Like Mountain Jim, I feel it as a change in frequencies, but I think it's not just an individual thing, I think the whole planet's frequency is changing. And those who can't change with it will be incarnating elsewhere, which will certainly simplify things considerably.

Interestingly, I keep getting mixed signals about that one- is it them that goes somewhere else, or us? It appears that this one is yet undecided-

I also sense the vibrational frequency of matter on the planet rising, but am not yet conscious of where this is leading.

I don't know truth, I just go with resonance: truth being the subjective thing that it is, and the interpretation of same being the foundation for so much conflict when One Truth is expounded- and then pounded. I like the word resonance, because my resonance doesn't have to look like anyone else's. This is Shiny for everyone involved. :D

I like the word also, having always been a 'vibration feeler' type, in the areas I felt my perceptual abilities were most developed.

[Swan]

Posted by songsfortheotherkind (here)
Mmmm, I've been observing the numbers of Starkind increasing- lots of Starkind walk ins too, although I haven't directly been engaged by any yet. I'm sending out the signal that I'm open to it, given my horrendous experience of it- I'm aware that it can be done much more easily *and* we need a place to do it. It will be interesting to have Starkind, Anun and Otherkind all back in the same place again, and all the hybridisations of those elements... *big cheesy grin*

I would love to know more about starkind, otherkind, anun and anunaki. I am not well read on the subject, intentionally. I decided I prefered to let my own experiences guide my way. But I would like to read more from you...