justoneman's session experience with Mark V. Johnson, hypnotherapist (and more)

[Chester]

Hi Folks

My appointment was Monday, June 4, 2012. The following was written on Tuesday morning, June 5th with an intention to be posted. This post was originally intended for Houman's Horus-Ra thread. I have not edited this post (save for mentioning Houman's Horus-Ra thread) since June 5th.

Hey Folks… I had my session with Mark Johnson. The session type I decided to embark upon was something he said normally lasted in total between 4 – 5 hours with the first hour a discussion of sorts.

The discussion time went about 3.5 hours and the actual “hypnosis” session went about 4.25 hours, so it ended up close to an 8 hour venture.

I promised I would post about it. I will make some initial comments here as I am awaiting the audio recording that Mark will be providing to me for review. I also want a few days for the experience to settle in with me. I also think it may be wise to explain some things about myself as I do not necessarily feel I may qualify for posting in this (Houman's Horus-Ra) thread. I say that because I have only had two clear cut anomalous events that I can recall in this lifetime. One when I was 6 years old and the other began as a dream event when I was 36 years old. I have never had an abduction experience by Grays that I am aware of in this lifetime but I did have a dream about 6 weeks ago where I was with Grays and who were trying to implant me with a black crescent shaped object that seemed made of glass and which I was willing to accept (all in the dream).

I have never had a direct experience with Satanism. I never had any experience like has been reported on this thread related to Satanism.
Why I felt qualified to join in this thread, and why I have been helped by the content of this thread can only be understood in review of the events of my life in relation to my inner conversation and massive and verifiable by third parties synchronicity experiences that would lead a rational minded individual to conclude I was a target of messianic intentioned programming.
One thing I can mention now, which came out of the session… it appears that the experience I had when I was six years old – as described in this post of mine which coincides with the day I discovered this thread –

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-experience

might not be what could be called an abduction. I am drawing no definitive conclusions as to what happened that night.

What came out of the session yesterday is that this event was what they call a “walk – in.”

I am going to state right now that after the session, I immediately felt I was being BS’d by myself! This is very difficult to explain. Let me try anyways. I felt in a daze somewhat after the session. I came home to where I am living (which happens to be with my ex-wife’s father and his current wife who are both in their 60s). Victoria, his wife, wanted to know all about it and I did not want to talk about it at all. I ate a huge meal, read the latest posts in Houman’s thread here and went to bed at 10 PM (very early for me) and I slept 10 hours (very long for me).

I had one dream where people were being violently abused by other people near the time I woke up. I awoke considering the dream and felt it was Satanist humans performing ritual abuse to innocent humans. I was only an observer in the dream, like a bird flying above the event.

As I write, I now have had my first cup of coffee and am starting to awake.

I believe the session information that came out of me from this “being” that came forth through me was full of BS. I spoke of things that my inner voice had spoken to me about before at various points in my life but had never been able to recall as a fluid, connectable flow of information. I am already concluding this being has been with me throughout my life. I always thought all my experiences were between me and God (up until my last psychotic event which began in August 2010 and ended this last January, 2012). It is very likely that the inner conversation I have experienced throughout my life was not me with myself nor me with God nor me with my “higher self” as they like to call it… but more likely me with some entity which entered me when I was 6 years old.

Thus, I am leaning towards the possibility that there are two beings inhabiting my body. This is what seems to have came out of the session. There’s me and then there’s this being which stated its name was Sofie. I do not believe that is this being’s name. I believe the being used that name to run a BS game on me and Mark. Again, I now believe this being has been with me since I was 6 years old. I will also be honest in stating right now that I am not exactly wanting to get rid of the being as I believe the being provides me with something I wouldn’t have otherwise. I am being as honest as I possibly can. I also am beginning to conclude that this being may be what some call their “spirit guide” but I am not willing to see it that way based on my life and what this being has told me along the way. I am suspicious of anyone who claims “spirit guide” stuff. Perhaps I am just gun shy. I draw no definitive conclusions.

I think now that many of my posts have been words of this being and/or a convolution of me and this being’s mind. I have read back over some of my posts from before and I say to myself, weird, Chester… where did that come from? But up until my session yesterday, I never really considered that I was me and also another being. I had heard of walk-ins before. This being stated it was a walk-in. I put the walk-in phenomena in the camp of “new age” BS now that I have studied this thread. It’s likely more along the lines of what discarnate spirits do as depicted by Truman Cash in his Eye of Ra book in the section “In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions.”

How the new age folks seem to characterize “walk-ins” is that it is some “agreement” or “contract” made by souls before the target soul/being has incarnated. I think that’s new age BS. I think I was simply a vulnerable six year old as I had just recently been taken away from my father who I loved dearly by my mother who I never trusted. I was taken from my father due to a divorce. My theory is that the invading being entered me due to this void. Anyways, back to the session.

What came forth in the session that I will relate now is that this being presented itself to be this “walk-in” but that when it entered, “I” was supposed to leave and I didn’t. And thus what “I” am now is these two spirits living in one body. I don’t know what to make of this but in a strange way it seems to be a possible explanation for my last 48 years.

I do not like the name that came out – Sofie - as it is too close to Sofia and this seems too close to the usage of the name Sofia in the Gnostic creation myths which relate to the Demiurge and the Archons. That this name came out to me appears to be front loading by me based on my research and my preoccupation with the Gnostic cosmology. Perhaps if there is an entity I am dealing with “it” uses entry points I would “buy into” based on the ground I have already well fertilized. This is my gut feeling and thus I do not exactly trust this being at all nor anything that it said.

OK, so now I need to wait for Mark to send me the audio file recording so that I may go over the session details, relate what was spoken about and give my impressions as to what I think about it all after a few days of settling.

I will add this – I was fully conscious throughout. I recall most of the session and nothing really surprised me as to what came out though there was a flow and clarity that I rarely experience in normal life.

I will also throw in another part of the experience. When I was in the pre session discussion, I was able to place Mark in a hypnotic state myself. I did so three times. The first two times he realized he was going under and he snapped himself out. The third time he closed his eyes and they remained closed for several seconds such that I stopped my discussion and brought up that I seem to have the ability to induce hypnotic states in others.

Why I say this is because during my lifetime I had been sent to a psychiatiric hospital where I had created a relationship with a Doctor Mark Unterberg (wow, just noticed he is another Mark! haha). I ended up maintaining my relationship with Dr. Unterberg throughout my life and have recently seen him again. During my sessions in the 90s I noticed he would fall asleep at times. I had no clue it was my voice that was inducing this state. Just last month, after not seeing Dr. Unterberg for years, we made contact and he asked to see me. I saw him three times (at no expense I might add). During the second visit, I noticed him starting to doze off. Then in the third session he actually closed his eyes and went under for a good 15 seconds or so before he forced himself awake. I mentioned to him that it appears my voice has the capacity to be hypnotic.

Anyways, I was also able to understand how my voice goes into a seduction mode when I would be working on having sex with a woman. I never realized until now that it is this capacity to induce hypnosis that seems to be the same thing I do (and I am assuming most of us do) when we are trying to seduce another into having a sexual encounter.

Why I am mentioning all this is because it seems to be this entity in me that is the seducer, not the real me.

OK, enough blabber… I will await the recording. If I get gutsy enough and am able to relate all the details of the session, I may make the recording available. Ohhh, one more detail. Twice I entered into a crying state. The first one came on suddenly and uncontrollably and was quite emotional.

Lastly, until I am able to create a document that properly covers the details of my life experience such that a reader can follow my dot connection process that has led me to the conclusion I have been targeted by beings that had intentions of producing a messianic type being (which I failed at allowing myself to become) then I do not feel I have properly qualified myself to make further posts in Houman’s Horus-Ra thread.

I have promised this document but so far have only relayed bits and pieces of my life experience which does not suffice.

justoneman

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This morning, I wrote an e-mail to Mark Johnson and felt it was a good idea to post this e-mail -

Hi Mark, that was a highly interesting session. I went home very drained, went to sleep by 10 PM (extremely rare) and slept 10 hours. I was fairly busy with planned meetings yesterday but was able to reflect on the session a bit and put down some thoughts. I now have a reasonably consistent view of some things I feel I gained from the session.

This "sofie" thing is either a parasite or part of my own split mind. I have no clue. I will be honest that most of what came out from "sofie" was thoughts I had run across (with one major exception) in my past. The exception was this analog / digital dynamic. That will require some meditation for further investigation.

I recall being quite conscious. I seem to have a different view/understanding about the "hypnotic state." I realize now I have been self hypnotizing myself for years and years. It seems when I get into this state, that "sofie" thing gets involved.

Conclusions for now -
a.) that I have a split mind (due to trauma incidents when young) and that I have allowed the creation of alters.

and/or
b.) That I am in a relationship with an entity.

c.) if b.) is true then it is unclear if the entity is benevolent as well as honest with me. My gut says don't trust it at all whatsoever.

I want to make these following comments - I have spent most of my adult life (when not working) consciously investigating what may be going on with me personally as well as what may actually be going on in our world (with very little closed minded resistance). One could say I have been in an active investigation of "the shadow" side of human nature (at least my own) and have done so to some extent dangerously to myself - although I stand firm that I am (and thus we all are) perfect children of creation, immortal and eternal.

Due to my documentation and analysis of the mathematical probability of all of the synchronistic events/experiences/facts of just this one specific lifetime I am able to conclude without any doubt and to my fullest satisfaction that one or more of the following is true -

That I have been a target of a decades long experience which could have led me to believe I was some special and/or divine and/or chosen being which had a special purpose which ultimately would result in the salvation of the world.

I consider the possibility that the targeting entity could just be a part of myself... an alter perhaps and nothing more.

I consider the possibility that there may be a separate entity that is involved with me (this entity could be any single entity and/or part of a group of entities, entities at different levels of being as well as an ultimate level of possibility that has the capacity to consciously effect my actual reality experience as perceived by my five senses that is then considered and interpreted by my mind post experience). If this possibility is true, then I suspect this would be what has been labeled as "archontic forces" but then again... maybe not... maybe that's what I want to believe now as I seem to sense peace in "knowing."

And then my final consideration is, what if my experiences have been intervened by and manipulated by "archontic forces" but also, that my heart-call has been heard by benevolent beings of some form or another and that they have responded to my call by providing me answers to questions I have had along the way ala telepathic communication? So called "spirit guides" and/or "higher self" and or "god/source"

So I would say all in all, I am left with the consideration as to what level... what possibility-scape I may now want to dive into.

I am already well past any consideration that I am some "chosen and/or special being sent by god. I am very comfortable with the possibility I have simply fallen for other entity BS. I am sad to consider the possibility I have allowed my soul and/or spirit and or soul/spirit being to become entangled into a reincarnative complex of which other beings are involved in efforts at continuing the recycling of my essence such that I may never be able to leave or such that whatever I actually am at the essential state of being could be eaten up until there's nothing left... but then there goes my theory I (as us all) are perfect children of creation... immortal and eternal. Is that theory just a hope?

Perhaps, ultimately there is no "answer" to any of these questions of possibility. Perhaps it simply boils down to "choice" in which case I choose my theory to be "THE" truth.

And so then I find myself saved (for the moment) but then I immediately consider the victims of war and satanic ritual abuse that are very real occurrences in my now experience on earth. And that stuff just ain't right.

Kind Regards
Chester

[Flash]

Question to you, Justoneman, how would this entity proceeded to enter into you? I really mean technically, what did you live? Was it all unconscious or not and if not, how was it happening?

[9eagle9]

Sofie is a fragment. From another life, who knows? From wherever sofie was picked up its a fragmentation of self.
And....Things may have very well ended up much worse for you as a child if you did not have this Sofie.

Alternately parents impose roles on us as children when we cannot resist the role. You are correct this formation of Sofie has much to do with your parents.

We often times create a role or persona around the fragmentation TO fill a void. Especially as children. The new age-ers have little clue about contracts , the soul cannot be as they say unconditional and then carry a condition of a contract with it...lol. That is not understanding or examing one's belief but just accepting an externally made story flaws and all.

A child however can create a condition or a what is a contract by forming a defensive persona around an open wound. This is often times how imaginary friends are created by lonely children. They are not in the least aware they are doing this. The soul didn't create the contract the subconscious did, and usually for good reason.

I won't go into lurid explanations of Sofie or how she came to be but Sofie is a role, a persona, very real with self awareness. I not even refrain from suggesting she's a child inept attempt to create a surrogate parent.

Typically they are built from defense, to coat open psyche wounds, not that they are bad, or good, but they will interfere with places one needs to go if threatened.

Resisting and attempting to cut out these roles or personas is basically a labor in resisting. Finding the wound and healing it tends to diminish their interference.

External or self replicated one tends to find healing where they have taken hold of, the empty spaces, the blot out, the wound (what some call soul retrieval in error) typically helps with this.

Can these roles be leveraged externally.

Sure.

So there you are on the threshold of becoming whole.

[Billy]

Chester my first thoughts when you described your "walk in" was it is an archetype, not an outside being entering you but an archetypal character/personality, that one allows into your life when you are going through traumitic experiences. Usually childhood but also continues throughout lives experiences,

We allow many archetypes into our lives, They usually attach themselves to the Ego as a sort of safety valve after personal negative experiences. for example, Abuse, Disfunctional parents, Heart break, Abandonment, Regection Etc, They are the masks we wear throughout life, We all have them some more than others, some allow them to completely rule their lives manifesting anger, jealousy, insucurity. etc.

Archetypes can be set free by thanking them for being with you, Saying, now you do not serve my greatest good anymore, mission complete you can leave now. This would be a conscious expression, the subconscious takes a while to catch up on a conscious decision because of old habits and cycles etc, Shamans are experiences in this type of clearing. I was with one for 3yrs. I can recommend it.

Peace

[Chester]

For Flash - read this experience -

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-experience

this is the event I perceive that this "entity" if it is that... came in. I was 6 years old and it was in the late fall of 1963 and I was living in a duplex with my mother and sister just north of Love Field (an airport) at the time of the event. It seems this event was very close to when Kennedy was assassinated.

I just saw all the responses I am getting and a tear has come to my eye... what amazing folks this forum has. wow

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this is the e-mail response I have just received from Mark Johnson... I responded back to him and those responses are inline with his mail.

Hi Chester,

Thanks for the update. I have had some problems in the past, bringing things home with me after a session, so I made sure to put protection in place before your session. Once I brought home a few ETs who were attempting to attach to me, they never did, but they were with me and wanting to connect. Close enough that they were blocking my meditation, but I know enough to be able to git rid of them.

I am still not sure exactly what was going on during your session during the Q&A portion. It was interesting what she said about guides, if they TELL you to do something they are not your guides, but if they offer an opinion/suggest something then they are likely guides. But the part about not having a guide seems unusual to me, not sure what's up with that. It might be interesting to see what happens in an LBL session, though it might also be good to check out something else before doing that.

I asked my wife to take a look and she gave me some info about you, but I need to ask her again when she is not so tired. It was just basic stuff about you, nothing about others who may be with you. I found the information about the grays to be interesting that they are from the future, and are trying to find a way to survive, was that something you knew already, or was that new information?

Was pre-loaded information obtained from watching several Project Camelot interviews, specifically those with Dan Burisch... but when that came out, it was very clear and seemed very much in tune with the flow from "sofie"


I have this friend in New Mexico who can work with you remotely and figure out if you have any sort of attachments, be they earthbound or ET attachments, and he can also get rid of them for you, if you so desire. Grays are sneaky little bastards, and since they did come up during the session I would not be surprised if they are somehow involved in some of the things that are going on with you, even as far as the monitor in your head. I also believe I got mixed answers in terms of that, which makes me wonder. Initially I heard they are monitoring you from Orion, but then latter when I mentioned that she said not it's Sirius, they are monitoring you from Sirius. I think I did hear Orion initially.

I will need to hear the audio to make sure of what came forth about Orion as I cannot recall that part at all. I will state that I have always had a strange sense that my father was related heavily to Orion and specifically the Draconians and that my mother was related to the Pleiadians and that somehow the Sirians got into the mix in a strange way to "create a three way being."

Anyway, more to share I am sure by both of us, but I have to get for now. Let me know if you'd likje to speak with my buddy Chris in NM

I am open to speaking with Chris... would like to know what that entails... in being fully honest, I am a bit reluctant to wanting my "relationship" to end, though I have been advised by some folks I highly respect to "get rid of the thing" if indeed "the thing" exists. I may also be experiencing the Stockholm syndrome in this regard. So YES, let's explore hooking me up with Chris, perhaps he does Skype... would be great to speak with him about this and see what that might entail...

Again, Thanks Mark! Until soon... Chester

Later...

Mark

ps... I am starting to work on your recording today.... may have it done by this evening....


Mark V Johnson

[Daughter of Time]

Hi Justone,

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Your dream sounds like astral travel. Once upon a time I used to get very excited when i realized i was astral travelling. But then I learned that entities from the astral plane can attach to you without you having any clue other than you begin to experience a type of split personality, and usually it's so mild that you may not even notice.

If the being attached to you is an astral entity, then it should not be too difficult to deal with. I used to have several entities attached to me. They left me with the help of my ex scientologist friend I spoke about in Houman's thread.

When one of my colleagues died some years ago, he tried to force himself into me. I was very aware of that and it took a lot of convincing before he left me alone. He was gay and wanted to continue experiencing life's carnal pleasures through the body of a woman and since he admired me, he felt this was the thing to do.

If this is an astral entity, you just have to talk to whoever it is and tell him/her that you release them with love and that being with you doesn't help you nor them, etc., You will put it into your own words and usually, sooner or later, they understand. Usually their aim is not to destroy you, but to prolong their earthly experience.

If this entity is the product of alien manipulation, then it will be trickier. i cannot advice you here as I'm dealing with my own alien traumas.

Good luck peeling the layers.

Love and peace.

[Hervé]

Posted by justoneman (here)
Hi Folks

[...]

The discussion time went about 1.5 hours and the actual “hypnosis” session went about 6.25 hours, so it ended up close to an 8 hour venture.

[...]
One when I was 6 years old and the other began as a dream event when I was 36 years old. I have never had an abduction experience by Grays that I am aware of in this lifetime but I did have a dream about 6 weeks ago where I was with Grays and who were trying to implant me with a black crescent shaped object that seemed made of glass and which I was willing to accept (all in the dream).

[...]

What came out of the session yesterday is that this event was what they call a “walk – in.”

I am going to state right now that after the session, I immediately felt I was being BS’d by myself! This is very difficult to explain. Let me try anyways. I felt in a daze somewhat after the session. I came home to where I am living (which happens to be with my ex-wife’s father and his current wife who are both in their 60s). Victoria, his wife, wanted to know all about it and I did not want to talk about it at all. I ate a huge meal, read the latest posts in Houman’s thread here and went to bed at 10 PM (very early for me) and I slept 10 hours (very long for me).

I had one dream where people were being violently abused by other people near the time I woke up. I awoke considering the dream and felt it was Satanist humans performing ritual abuse to innocent humans. I was only an observer in the dream, like a bird flying above the event.

[...]

I think I was simply a vulnerable six year old as I had just recently been taken away from my father who I loved dearly by my mother who I never trusted. I was taken from my father due to a divorce. My theory is that the invading being entered me due to this void. Anyways, back to the session.

[...]

I had been sent to a psychiatiric hospital where I had created a relationship with a Doctor Mark Unterberg (wow, just noticed he is another Mark! haha). I ended up maintaining my relationship with Dr. Unterberg throughout my life and have recently seen him again. During my sessions in the 90s I noticed he would fall asleep at times. I had no clue it was my voice that was inducing this state. Just last month, after not seeing Dr. Unterberg for years, we made contact and he asked to see me. I saw him three times (at no expense I might add).

[...]

... highly interesting session. I went home very drained, went to sleep by 10 PM (extremely rare) and slept 10 hours.

[...]

... I realize now I have been self hypnotizing myself for years and years. It seems when I get into this state, that "sofie" thing gets involved.

[...]

... that my heart-call has been heard by benevolent beings of some form or another and that they have responded to my call by providing me answers to questions I have had along the way ala telepathic communication? So called "spirit guides" and/or "higher self" and or "god/source"

[...]

Kind Regards
Chester

Hi Chester,

Thanks for posting the data regarding your session. Very valuable in order to compare with data from other quarters.

Caveats... check (or recheck) the "Greenbaum Speech" where the followings are encountered:

Now one of the things that I would very carefully check is, I would suggest that you ask the core, not just the unconscious mind, ask the core, "Is there any part inside that continues to have contact with people associated with the Cult? Is there any part inside who goes to Cult rituals or meetings? Is there a recording device inside of Mary," if that's the host's name, "a recording device inside so that someone can find out the things that are said in sessions?" This doesn't mean they're monitored. Many of them just simply have it. "Is there someone who debriefs some part inside for what happens in our therapy sessions?" I have the very uncomfortable feeling from some past experience that when you look at this you will find the large proportion of ritual-abuse victims in this country are having their ongoing therapy monitored.

I remember a woman who came in about twenty-four years old, claimed her father was a Satanist. Her parents divorced when she was six. After that it would only when her father had visitation and he would take her to rituals sometimes up until age fifteen. She said, "I haven't gone to anything since I was fifteen." Her therapist believed this at face value. We sat in my office. We did a two-hour inquiry using hypnosis. We found the programming present. In addition to that we found that every therapy session was debriefed and in fact they had told her to get sick and not come to the appointment with me.

Or check (or recheck) Annalie's webpages:

Phases of the Work
Pre Session
The session ‘begins’ when one states the INTENT to do the work, to clear out the problems, to let one’s own spirit shine through. As soon as one sets this intent, any internal interference knows about it, so it’s not uncommon to get some ‘defragging’ from this even beforehand. For me this included some negative energies on the part of my family directed at me, resentment from them, and within me feelings of anxiety, restlessness and even physical illness symptoms including a terrible respiratory infection, massive asthma attacks and also an ear infection which required antibiotics, something I have not experienced since I was a child, but was a regular artifact of my young life. All this, I understand now, was due to the entities pulling ride-alongs in my body and also interfering with me externally getting ansy about their gig being up.


[...]

The Session
Because I am not in Australia and do not currently live near any HK practitioners who have trained with Steve, I had my sessions done with a surrogate. One practitioner surrogates my spirit through his body (so my spirit can speak through his vehicle and report what it’s seeing in the dreamtime through him). Another practitioner helps with the clearing, asks spirit questions, helps clarify detrimental beliefs that may be holding the traumatic events in time in loopback, reactivating them in the current lifetime, etc. She deals with any entities that surface, offering them choices, reading them their rights, sending them to their own dimension of time to experience what they have been doing to people, etc.

[...]

Entities
Some of the entities which surface in the sessions I am sharing publically include Sirian greys, Pleiadeans (not so benevolent as the new age would have you believe!) winged serpents (which are a variation of Draco reptilians), full blow Dracos w/ wings high in the reptilian hierarchy, little greys, and various thought forms and genetic clusters that have become living entities. To understand the thought forms, these things go from an INTENT at their creation, to a thought form, to a life form, to a full blown entity, the more it is ‘fed’ through time. As everything has a right to life, these entities will justify their own existence and whatever they are doing to survive (feed on energy) even if it is detrimental to another spirit.

[...]

Post Session
During this first session I soaked in a hot salt water bath at the start for maybe 20 minutes, then felt very drowsy and passed out asleep. It took slightly over two hours to complete, and in the immediate communication I received from the practitioner post session, my spirit was REALLY ready to do this work and it started out like wildfire, just racing through stuff. Perhaps this is why I had to go to sleep in my body! I woke up promptly as the session was ending, oddly enough, and felt groggy and kind of ‘out of it’ or in-between worlds I might say for about 40 minutes. However I instantly felt lighter, soooo much better than I had for as long as I could remember. The effects were immediate and PROFOUND. In the few days between when the session was done and when I received this transcript, I went through some ups and downs, but felt overall a million times better than I’d ever felt.

[...]

First HK Session – Annalie, January 2012
Just to let you know Mark and I work in a controlled and safe environment and anything that we get rid of cannot come back unless you specifically ask it to – don’t laugh some people feel so lost without their interference they do silly things. Embrace this wonderful clear and in alignment self and enjoy it.

[Hervé]

Apparently, Annalie is working hard on Steve Richards' interview transcript in collaboration with an HK practitioner:

Beginning tomorrow I will dedicate myself to getting the interview transcribed. This could take a few days, so please be patient. In great news for this project, Robyn, the HK practitioner (who is Australian) who has been helping me, who knows a thing or two about doing transcriptions, will be working with me jointly on this, so that we make sure to get all the cultural nuances, the rapid dialect and the deep and mind-bending concepts discussed clear. If anyone was wondering, in the meantime, here is a link to what a ‘ute’ is.
http://www.core77.com/blog/object_cu...amino_7244.asp
Nope, not the tribe of native people in Utah, but a sort of pickup truck a-la El Camino. Who knew?

This interview, to me, is of prime importance since it gives a totally different perspective on the whole thing.

Download MP3s: Part 1 Part 2 (right click and ‘Save As’ to download)

[NancyV]

Chester, thanks for posting. Very interesting! My suggestion would be that if you truly WANT to keep this energy/entity as a part of you, then do so. In addition don't take anyone else's suggestion, including mine, as more important than your own instincts.

I'm sure my husband either has a second being within him or he's a walk-in. It also happened when he was 6 years old. He was electrocuted and afterwards he turned from a sweet, loving boy into a reclusive and angry, aggressive type of boy. I have told him that he either has an entity or is a walk-in and he is perfectly happy to keep it. It has kept him alive in many life threatening situations and in wars. The name of this being is "Blackheart" which was the name given to him by Hmong tribesmen in Vietnam. It's a powerful warrior entity and I've seen it several times. It's VERY scary! LOL...

Depending on how close you are to this entity or archetype, or how valuable it is to you, you might be better off keeping it, in fact it might be worse for you if you try to exorcise it. What's interesting to me is that when I spent years traveling out of body I would often merge with other beings... some of them were not very nice. When we merged we were one being. That being was ME. I incorporated the other being into myself and vice versa and "I" was still in charge...so there was only one. Perhaps it works similarly here on earth in certain instances, so I don't automatically think having another entity merged with you is negative, unless it is controlling you against your will.

I guess the important thing would be to decide if you feel controlled or you feel comfortable when this being might seem to be more in charge than other aspects of your personality that you think are better or nicer. There is a big difference between being possessed or controlled versus willingly accepting an entity as another aspect of yourself. I know my husband would not feel comfortable or be happy if he got rid of Blackheart. So it's totally up to you and you will make the correct decision for yourself... even if everyone else disagrees with what you decide.

[the_vast_mystery]

How expensive is doing stuff like this? Is it something one has to save up for, or are there cheaper options?
I've been wanting to do this for a while, it's just been very difficult to muster up the $400-some dollars I've heard it'll cost per session to try this stuff.

[9eagle9]

That being essential form shamanic healing that brings together certain concepts of shamanic healing that are typically not expanded on in such detail. It's given me a different perspective on healing in general (I no longer work with people but would almost be tempted to return to it after that perspective). But what is described on the website are sound principles of shamanic healing, I didn't see any goo or fluff. Pretty hardcore. Being as that are sound shamanic principles you could try to find someone in the area who is a shamanic healer. They may not be of the same culture but should be at least away of the principles as described on the website.

The problem is.....

There's been a deliberate blurring of shamanic healing and shamanic practices. Shamanic practitioners would not be able to facilitate the same sort of effect as described by HK. Unfortunately shamanic practitioners think they are shamanic healers because they don't know the difference between states of being and practice.

But if you were to find a sound shamanic healer you could likely begin initiating some work similar to this for a much lower cost closer to home.

The problem is separating the wheat from the chaff.

I personally don't do this sort of work anymore save for a few people who have actually demonstrated they want to participate in their own healing process but I can vouch for the efficacy of what was described on the website.

[Hervé]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
That being essential form shamanic healing that brings together certain concepts of shamanic healing that are typically not expanded on in such detail. It's given me a different perspective on healing in general (I no longer work with people but would almost be tempted to return to it after that perspective). But what is described on the website are sound principles of shamanic healing, I didn't see any goo or fluff. Pretty hardcore. Being as that are sound shamanic principles you could try to find someone in the area who is a shamanic healer. They may not be of the same culture but should be at least away of the principles as described on the website.

The problem is.....

There's been a deliberate blurring of shamanic healing and shamanic practices. Shamanic practitioners would not be able to facilitate the same sort of effect as described by HK. Unfortunately shamanic practitioners think they are shamanic healers because they don't know the difference between states of being and practice.

But if you were to find a sound shamanic healer you could likely begin initiating some work similar to this for a much lower cost closer to home.

The problem is separating the wheat from the chaff.

I personally don't do this sort of work anymore save for a few people who have actually demonstrated they want to participate in their own healing process but I can vouch for the efficacy of what was described on the website.

The interesting part is that Steve Richards, in the interview I linked to above, mentions that what he is doing is NOT shamanism -- beside the overall aspect of dealing with spirits and the spirit world -- but something different.

[9eagle9]

Don't shoot the messenger, everything he has listed on his website are sound , integrated, and demonstratable principals of shamanic healing.I don't see anything on there that an AUTHENTIC shaman doesn't do regardless if they are using if for healing or not.

Whatever he decides to call, it those are principles of shamanic healing, which is mostly (or should be) based in older indigenous and aboriginal healing philosophies.

Granted in modern times shamanism has been reduced to so much prattle no one knows what it is anymore, but I don't see anything on there that is not an integrated, established, or demonstrable healing facility. Whatever one decides to call it.

Dreamtime, time looping, removing holographic crud--one can call it whatever they want, it is what it is.

[9eagle9]

I should add most integrated authentic shamans don't refer to themselves as such, as it is a state of being , not a label. Something you ARE not something you do, in a manner of speaking.

A state of being that can be achieved by initiating the practices as listed on the website.

Makes sense to me that he'd detach from the label though, because it is a label that is being worn thin by those who are talking heads instead of healing hands.

[Chester]

Hi Folks... honestly I am overwhelmed with the responses - specifically the heart I feel coming through. I can only say thank you. I want to respond to each post and yet I am swamped with four things -

The first is some personal matters related to my sons and my next ventures in employment as I am a contractor.

The second relates specifically to my situation with these entities as it appears I am having to sort out more than one entity and/or group of entities which has complicated the matter. I have had dialogue with a few folks from this forum that have assisted in expanding my mind as to the possibilities which is good but has also made my analysis more complex.

The third is my continuation in reading, studying Houman's Horus-Ra thread, several materials recommended to me by Amzer Zo, and now Vivek is back with some very thought provoking threads and I must admit this third activity is my favorite of these four (though when it comes to my sons, my wife and her daughter... they get first dibs).

The fourth item is actually a project. That being a recap of the elements, events, experiences of my life which have me certain without doubt I have exposed myself to "archontic forces" and at more than one level of the archontic structure. I feel I owe it to this forum to put together a recap of these highlights and do so in a single, cohesive document as opposed to revealing bits and pieces when some post has stimulated me to bring that piece out. I say this because for a reader to understand why I am certain I was targeted for (and thus equally ripe for) specific messianic programming, they would have to be provided a fluid and dot connected presentation. I also promised I would produce this to Houman and considering the work he has done and continues to do I am very motivated to fulfill my promise.

Thus, I am going to forgo for now any in depth response to those who have posted their impressions and/or recommendations to me until I produce "my story" as promised to Houman. Then when I do I will post the significant specifics of my session with Mark Johnson which I can only do once I have received the audio file.

Again... thanks folks, justoneman

[Chester]

I had to make a brief update... basically because I feel some folks actually read and consider some of what I write.

I will be direct. - I am now pretty much uncomfortable with "hypnosis." Now don't read into this that I have anything negative to say about Mark Johnson, in fact, I love the guy... he was super comfortable to be with and went well beyond the contractual obligation we made.

I am just referring to the process I used to attempt to gain more understanding about what the heck I may have been (and still am) dealing with.

One of my concerns lies in the fact that it has taken me several days to regain my sovereignty. In addition, I am concerned that by "going under" I actually allowed more than one entity other than myself to "speak" with me. To clarify, I have this strange feeling that I am dealing with a "walk-in" situation but also that I am dealing with one or more other entities which have pretended to be the walk-in entity in hopes of further confusing me.

Now that I am aware of what I am dealing with (as I have tested this theory the past few days and proven well enough to myself this is the case), I am in a holding pattern as to what (if any) actions I will take.

I still have not received the audio from my session.

I am not so sure what I will do when I do receive it, certainly not provide a transcript as I don't see the value in the time input required to do so.

One more item in being as honest as I can. I was near the end of Truman Cash's Eye of Ra (three or so days before my scheduled appointment) when I came to a conclusion that I probably should not embark upon the hypnosis experiment and, well... I did so primarily because I had obligated myself to Mark as well as hyped it up on this forum. In hindsight, I see it as a mistake and I wished that I had not done so and I wished also that I had saved the $325 as that's a lot of money to me these days... hope you see this comment, Vast.

Anyways... just an update from justone

[eileenrose]

My two cents.

Don't mess with the entities (ie. spirits, dead people...in one sense...not really my calling to try to explain them). The only good ones I've run into our the ones helping John of God in Brazil (I mean it).

I realize that people like the word shaman to add to their personal list of acheivements. That is the opposite of where you should be if you take on that sort of work (I have....in a different way).

It you arn't in a traditional tribe situation where they've safely work with entities (and still are) and you are part of their cultural traditions/values/ideas....go for it. Otherwise....in this culture...you will attract negative entities due to our cultures perversions. And they are vast (these perversions...rather not go into on this thread).

...and if this doesn't apply to you, then let what I said go (I didn't read your story about this...don't need more negative entities trying to latch on).

[the_vast_mystery]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I had to make a brief update... basically because I feel some folks actually read and consider some of what I write.

I will be direct. - I am now pretty much uncomfortable with "hypnosis." Now don't read into this that I have anything negative to say about Mark Johnson, in fact, I love the guy... he was super comfortable to be with and went well beyond the contractual obligation we made.

I am just referring to the process I used to attempt to gain more understanding about what the heck I may have been (and still am) dealing with.

One of my concerns lies in the fact that it has taken me several days to regain my sovereignty. In addition, I am concerned that by "going under" I actually allowed more than one entity other than myself to "speak" with me. To clarify, I have this strange feeling that I am dealing with a "walk-in" situation but also that I am dealing with one or more other entities which have pretended to be the walk-in entity in hopes of further confusing me.

Now that I am aware of what I am dealing with (as I have tested this theory the past few days and proven well enough to myself this is the case), I am in a holding pattern as to what (if any) actions I will take.

I still have not received the audio from my session.

I am not so sure what I will do when I do receive it, certainly not provide a transcript as I don't see the value in the time input required to do so.

One more item in being as honest as I can. I was near the end of Truman Cash's Eye of Ra (three or so days before my scheduled appointment) when I came to a conclusion that I probably should not embark upon the hypnosis experiment and, well... I did so primarily because I had obligated myself to Mark as well as hyped it up on this forum. In hindsight, I see it as a mistake and I wished that I had not done so and I wished also that I had saved the $325 as that's a lot of money to me these days... hope you see this comment, Vast.

Anyways... just an update from justone

Hypnosis is just one way, it's a tool to try and learn more about who we are by what we say when deeply disconnected with who we are in the here and now. But each of us has our own path to walk, and that's what makes us unique. ^_^ Thank you for sharing what you have. I deeply appreciate it.

In my own case I can already tell that my strong propensity to "want to believe" will probably end up being parlayed into a level of trust or inquisitiveness in anything discovered rather than fear or concern. If anything reading Houman's thread has made me positively ecstatic with the possibilities. If these "illuminati" or whomever can achieve such destructive results with it, then I'm sure the opposite could be done as well. Being a computer programmer I see it as one potential chance to work with my subconscious or unconscious mind directly to be a great asset. If they can write these "programs" against others will, I can certainly get rid of those and write superior programs that work WITH me to get me where I want to be.

It's just a matter of getting that intermediary going so I can see what people put in there (and what I have to work with) and then how much I can leverage that to my advantage. I'll have to post a thread if/when it happens, it should be before the end of August. It's the least I can do considering you put all of this for our assistance.

[9eagle9]

It depends on what one perceives a shaman to be.

It's a state of being. Not anything that anyone is doing.

If a shaman is 'doing' something chances are they are not in their being-ness.

JustOneMan,

Don't over analyze , there is a ten to 21 day integration process that occurs after having such work done. During this time stuff sheds off and uncomfortable thoughts and feelings rise to the surface.

Enties that are attached to you will speak under hypnosis, so will a truer self be revealed behind the critical barrier, kicking yourself over the episode of that occurred doesn't do anything. It made you aware of something you were not aware of and now you are rattled by that awareness.

Unless you are a healer and have experience with this sort of thing your mind will go all over the place with it.

The thing is an entity can only attach if there is something to attach to. You might want to focus on self work for a while instead of hypnotic work and work on what ever areas an entity could attach to.

Posted by eileenrose (here)
My two cents.

Don't mess with the entities (ie. spirits, dead people...in one sense...not really my calling to try to explain them). The only good ones I've run into our the ones helping John of God in Brazil (I mean it).

I realize that people like the word shaman to add to their personal list of acheivements. That is the opposite of where you should be if you take on that sort of work (I have....in a different way).

It you arn't in a traditional tribe situation where they've safely work with entities (and still are) and you are part of their cultural traditions/values/ideas....go for it. Otherwise....in this culture...you will attract negative entities due to our cultures perversions. And they are vast (these perversions...rather not go into on this thread).

...and if this doesn't apply to you, then let what I said go (I didn't read your story about this...don't need more negative entities trying to latch on).

[NancyV]

Posted by justoneman (here)
I had to make a brief update... basically because I feel some folks actually read and consider some of what I write.

I will be direct. - I am now pretty much uncomfortable with "hypnosis." Now don't read into this that I have anything negative to say about Mark Johnson, in fact, I love the guy... he was super comfortable to be with and went well beyond the contractual obligation we made.

I am just referring to the process I used to attempt to gain more understanding about what the heck I may have been (and still am) dealing with.

One of my concerns lies in the fact that it has taken me several days to regain my sovereignty. In addition, I am concerned that by "going under" I actually allowed more than one entity other than myself to "speak" with me. To clarify, I have this strange feeling that I am dealing with a "walk-in" situation but also that I am dealing with one or more other entities which have pretended to be the walk-in entity in hopes of further confusing me.

I know exactly what you mean, justoneman! All my life I have not easily accepted anyone trying to hypnotize me. I usually tell them I can't be hypnotized and a few times when someone has insisted I have let them try. But it doesn't work because I don't accept it. It is probably that I find myself unable to give up my sovereignty to anyone, other than the Source or God. But when I do that I know it's merging with a part of me.

I'm sure your instincts are very good! It's funny how we often insist on going against our instincts because of one reason or another. It's usually always a good lesson in learning to trust ourselves more. Also the friends/entities who are traveling with or within you may be giving you some help and you may be hearing them more. I don't sense that they are malevolent although they might be sort of tricksters, which isn't always malevolent. It can be a good experience to deal with different types of entities as it prepares you for other dimensional travels where there are LOTS of them.

I've always gotten good energy from your posts, maybe a bit of confusion here and there but always positive and good intentions. So if you're a walk-in, you're a good one. If you want to get rid of the other entities it's not that hard to do. If your will power is very strong you can order them to leave. If you want to co-exist with them then have no fear. Fear is the easiest way for them to control us. Fear makes them more "real" and increases their power and influence.

I treat them like pesky little children or if they are malevolent I get very nasty and blast them with anger. Love works better for me in other dimensions but here on earth anger is a great tool. It's not exactly anger, it's more like a blast of power which some might interpret as anger since it's pretty scary and hostile sounding.