Freewill and the channel wars

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
I was disagree-ing with you. I do realize that people self identify with their beliefs to the extent if the idea is challenged they feel judged.

You took it personally so ,....you took it personally.

So did Seigarchon apparently.

Forgive me not realizing you are the only person educated in such phenom and that your vast understanding of any given topic should remain unchallenged lest your feelings be stirred by an objection to your beleif system.

And oh **** I can't hold a straight face for this long.....

Like I said, big difference between debate and baseless attacks via false implications. Like my text has "programming vectors", "that exist in advertising" to "snare people". Ok, let's pretend that didn't happen.

" ... your post .... It's neutrally temporizing. The same sort of programming vectors in channeled messages exists in advertising, that is why its so easy to snare people into it. ..."

Which post were you referring to specifically and can you add any substance to your claim whatsoever?

[Anchor]

9eagle9 is a catalyst.

DeDukshyn is a catalyst.

Each tolerable for some, not for others.

It may be helpful, it may be a hindrance.

It will be what you let it be.

You can choose to be so catalysed or not.

It is totally up to you.

Everytime I see "9eagle9 vs. someone", I see this. Once, that someone was me.

I am not taking any side - I am the arch fence sitter and I can stay here for a long time.

Also from this splintery fence-top I can see both sides - and I am reminded that we are all all perfect parts of the one infinite creator.

Love all.

Play on...

[DeDukshyn]

I'm just hoping to find out what my programming vectors are! You know! The "Temporalizing nuetralizing" ones. Finally found someone who knows about that stuff!

[StarDust]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Like I said, big difference between debate and baseless attacks via false implications. Like my text has "programming vectors", "that exist in advertising" to "snare people". Ok, let's pretend that didn't happen.

" ... your post .... It's neutrally temporizing. The same sort of programming vectors in channeled messages exists in advertising, that is why its so easy to snare people into it. ..."

Which post were you referring to specifically and can you add any substance to your claim whatsoever?

I think this pretty much sums it up...



…in response to this:

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
Forgive me not realizing you are the only person educated in such phenom and that your vast understanding of any given topic should remain unchallenged lest your feelings be stirred by an objection to your beleif system.

And oh **** I can't hold a straight face for this long.....

[9eagle9]

This post.

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
I see things as processes, I see processes as confusing to some (because humans tend to relate to things in events and reactions), I see people trying to make sense and respond to that confusion - it is good that they are searching - I do not judge it. I also see a very few that are legitimately malevolent in their disinfo - the "process" wont stop and all will be revealed soon ;-) Impatience and humanity's desire for "quick fixes" is fueling a lot of the nonsense. But there is a little truth in everything, IMHO, my 2 cents

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You sure dropped the "I am the higher vibrational' entity and Care Taker of the earth" act fast didn't you?

Not working out for you?

Posted by StarDust (here)
I think this pretty much sums it up...

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[DeDukshyn]

You sure dropped the "I am the higher vibrational' entity and Care Taker of the earth" act fast didn't you?

Didn't drop a thing, no clue what you are talking about, never did or said to be anything you claim. Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

Can you please explain my "neutralizing temporal programming vectors" (the false claim against me) and which posts I expressed this behavior in and why you think that? Thanks.

[StarDust]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

That is a thinly veiled pop shot at me. Somehow that was her seriously misguided take away from the polite conversation I was having with other members who are not cantankerous curmudgeons. If I were the caretaker for the earth, there are certain people who I would jettison into space.

…and I'd start with those who reference themselves in an alpha-numeric format first.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

That is a thinly veiled pop shot at me. Somehow that was her seriously misguided take away from the polite conversation I was having with other members who are not cantankerous curmudgeons. If I were the caretaker for the earth, there are certain people who I would jettison into space first.

I don't know what to say .. misunderstandings happen .... a shift is needed .. in perspective .. not huge though. Look I just defend myself .. people shouldn't attack me. I love you all.

[StarDust]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

That is a thinly veiled pop shot at me. Somehow that was her seriously misguided take away from the polite conversation I was having with other members who are not cantankerous curmudgeons. If I were the caretaker for the earth, there are certain people who I would jettison into space first.

I don't know what to say .. misunderstandings happen .... a shift is needed .. in perspective .. not huge though. Look I just defend myself .. people shouldn't attack me. I love you all.

I agree, there are ways to say "I don't agree with you" without needing to score points on some proverbial game board that is meaningless. And using direct language to specify the disagreement is the civilized way to go about it. Everything else is just sophomoric no matter what level of vocabulary you choose to use.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

That is a thinly veiled pop shot at me. Somehow that was her seriously misguided take away from the polite conversation I was having with other members who are not cantankerous curmudgeons. If I were the caretaker for the earth, there are certain people who I would jettison into space first.

I don't know what to say .. misunderstandings happen .... a shift is needed .. in perspective .. not huge though. Look I just defend myself .. people shouldn't attack me. I love you all.

I agree, there are ways to say "I don't agree with" you without needing to score points on some proverbial game board that is meaningless. And using direct language to specify the disagreement is the civilized way to go about it. Everything else is just sophomoric no matter what level of vocabulary you choose to use.

I would agree that there is a way to go about it. A way to discuss it in a mature rational way. I don't expect everyone to get along or to agree or to have the same "nurtralizing temporal poophole brazctors" as everyone else like me, but sigh .. the burdens one has to live with.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by StarDust (here)
I think this pretty much sums it up...

StarDust, was that response to DeDukshyn intended to describe DeDukshyn, or yourself? If the former, then it looks to me like a low brow insult apparently making fun of DeDukshyn. If the latter, then well ... ok.

(I trimmed the nested quoting level of a couple posts above, as I do frequently and almost effortlessly, which should now make it a bit easier to see who is responding to who.)

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
I think this pretty much sums it up...

StarDust, was that response to DeDukshyn intended to describe DeDukshyn, or yourself? If the former, then it looks to me like a low brow insult apparently making fun of DeDukshyn. If the latter, then well ... ok.

(I trimmed the nested quoting level of a couple posts above, as I do frequently and almost effortlessly, which should now make it a bit easier to see who is responding to who.)

ooops .... accidently typed something ...[update] all's good -humour in your post all may not get ... just sayn

[Anchor]

Posted by StarDust (here)
My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B;

Frankly I'd rather see more of this than what I have seen in my most recent visit to this thread.

How about it?

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B;

Frankly I'd rather see more of this that what I have seen in my most recent visit to this thread.

How about it?

Considering the sub forum .. perfect suggestion! ... Yet also considering ... New Thread!

[9eagle9]

Fence sitting sound better?

Everything is okay because it all has some truth in it.

Everything is okay because all will be revealed 'soon' (which people have been saying for 2000 years)

There is a little truth in everything (like that is good thing).

All temporizing , neutral statements intended to lull and dissuade people from criticizing any content.

Quick to react you may reread my post and note the rest of my remarks were directed at Stardust.

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

You sure dropped the "I am the higher vibrational' entity and Care Taker of the earth" act fast didn't you?

Didn't drop a thing, no clue what you are talking about, never did or said to be anything you claim. Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

Can you please explain my "neutralizing temporal programming vectors" (the false claim against me) and which posts I expressed this behavior in and why you think that? Thanks.

[9eagle9]

That wasn't thinly veiled. You pretty much emphasize you fall out of your chosen role fairly easily for a higher dimensional being.

More than likely its because its not a state of being but a role that you have assumed.

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)
Please point where I claimed to be "caretaker of the earth". ROFLMAO. seriously hood goose lady ...

That is a thinly veiled pop shot at me. Somehow that was her seriously misguided take away from the polite conversation I was having with other members who are not cantankerous curmudgeons. If I were the caretaker for the earth, there are certain people who I would jettison into space.

…and I'd start with those who reference themselves in an alpha-numeric format first.

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm starting to see suspicious lies in Group B's communications.... How does anyone know who or what exactly they're channeling or communicating with? Simply, they DON'T know.... Any entity could be a poser.... From what I've painfully discovered recently, these entities are very good liars and deceivers... And if you are as careless as I was, a part of you will be trapped by them, too....

I say QUESTION EVERYTHING! Even the messenger! Listen closely to what's being said because those messages will clue you in on how you're being deceived. The enemies know you very well....They'll tell you exactly what you want to hear until you're ensnared....

So, Group C who joined Group B says that they have outcasts and demons in their ranks.... Demons, people! Does that not bother anyone? The fact that negative entities have supposedly joined with Group A and B to help liberate Earth?

It's not sounding as good as it used to....

[9eagle9]

It would certainly ease the conflict if someone could fall back on "I didn't mean to say that, my social memory complex told me to'.

Or "My apologies, my 6th density social memory complex briefly reverted to the 5th density version, and my hard drive froze up'


Or "I beg your pardon my social memory complex has a memory that isn't in alignment with you'.

Posted by Anchor (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B;

Frankly I'd rather see more of this that what I have seen in my most recent visit to this thread.

How about it?

[Anchor]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
Group C who joined Group B says that they have demons in their ranks.... Demons, people! Does that not bother anyone?

Lol - another group to potentially have to not believe.

I totally agree - question everything. This is the primary discipline for safety with this stuff.

[9eagle9]

As I noted in another thread Doreen Virtue introduces her adherents to the joys of channeling constructed entities (or demons).

Of course they are 'nice' sounding demons with names like Archagnel Sasha and Bambi so it's okay.

She sells millions of books.

Meaning ...no this doesn't bother anyone. In fact these days if one makes assessment of these entities and their message peddlers that makes one evil.

People don't mind putting heroin in their arm because it makes them feel good.

If you can't get them to put the needle in their arm tell them its a b-12 shot.

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
I'm starting to see suspicious lies in Group B's communications.... How does anyone know who or what exactly they're channeling or communicating with? Simply, they DON'T know.... Any entity could be a poser.... From what I've discovered recently, these entities are very good liars and deceivers...

I say QUESTION EVERYTHING! Listen closely to what's being said because those messages will clue you in on the how you're being played. Group C who joined Group B says that they have demons in their ranks.... Demons, people! Does that not bother anyone?