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    Default Re: A New World Order: Exposing the Luciferian Agenda

    why do you think Lucifer is evil?

    maybe we are all playing our roles of polarity in order to transcend duality and move into into a higher consciousness

    this good vs bad thing is getting old

    we are one

    we are one with unified consciousness

    we are all going home

    trust in God's plan, the shift of the ages is almost complete of 26,000 years

    spread peace, love, understanding and forgiveness and don't forget love your enemy, even Lucifer.

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    Vivek -- I appreciate and have begun to attend to many of the links and info you've referenced for us.

    Please always remember -- it is YOUR agenda that is the most important. Don't give too much time to anyone else's.

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    Debunking Jordan Maxwell


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    Ooo ouch. Love Jordan Maxwell, but have to admit a lot of his material is a bit stretchy. Or it just doesn't sit right. Admittedly I admire the guy because he comes across as intelligent in a day when most people are getting their intellgiences from fluffy inspirational messages from space.

    He does demonstrate that language is primarily our means of programming though even if that demonstration sometimes doesn't put him in altogether flattering light.

    On the other hand so does his commentator in the video.

    Knowing the actual meanings of words and what symbolism is, IS important.

    A symbol itself has very little power. What the symbol represents is what may hold that power. Or a symbol is given only the power that we invest in it.

    In Reiki the 'distant healing symbol' is a symbol only to those people who don't know Japanese written language.

    http://www.reiki.nu/treatment/symbol...azeshonen.html


    The Distance Healing Symbols is actually Japanese hand writing (rather obvious) and not a symbol at all. The golden arches has more symbolic meaning than this. Reiki practitioners use it as a symbol when it was meant to be used as a mantra--spoken or rather breathed. They also spend a lot of time memorizing it AS a symbol.And you cannot tell them otherwise, they absolutely refuse that this not a symbol but what is obvious --it's Japanese writing.

    You will find one hundred thousand people who practice Reiki doing this and even though the proof is right in front of their face, they won't accept this.

    Language, particularly English language, is all about symbols. Letters only represent the sounds that come out of our mouth and are not the sound in itself.
    Words are arrangements of those symbols.

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    Vivek… I love ya buddy, but… After careful exploration of your thread here and since most of the folk targeted by this thread are not with us in body and/or unavailable to and/or don’t care to defend themselves… I am compelled to do so (because it’s my nature to stir the pot)… so here goes.

    I will use quotes for the segments of the OP I wish to address and note, the italic emphasis is mine, not the author of the OP.

    Quote This thread is dedicated to exposing the plans of the New World Order -- it's instruments, deceptions, and history.

    It is Luciferian at it's core and it has infiltrated all facets of life (including the alternative community).
    Super Natural Bad Guy


    Quote This is not intended to be a religious thread. I will not be Bible thumping by way of sounding the holy horn crafted by the dogmatic hands of the indoctrinated christian.

    Know this though, there is nothing ambiguous about the Jesus Christ of the New Testament and after drudging through the muck of information about the Luciferian agenda I am convinced of the authority of Jesus Christ…
    Super Natural – and the one and only Good Guy which so happens to be the only one aligned with GOD

    So let’s go back up a few lines –
    Quote This is not intended to be a religious thread.
    So I did a Google search of the definition of religion and found the very first entry to be -
    re•li•gion/riˈlijən/
    Noun: 1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.


    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1...w=1152&bih=755

    so again…

    Quote This is not intended to be a religious thread.
    ???

    Come on man… be genuine.

    -

    OK and then this -

    Quote … and the relevance of the prophetic Book of Revelations in the Bible.
    Many amongst humanity are in various states of fear over these types of “prophetic books” and so I cannot help myself from feeling sad that such a significant effort is being put forth here in this thread where in the OP there is a clear introduction of both supernatural good guy and supernatural bad guy… incredibly convincing to most less discerning readers, readers I consider to be amongst the innocent… the very same people Jesus Christ is supposed to be “protecting.”

    -

    Quote This thread will examine the origin of thought and philosophies of the following people and their associations (this list continues to grow):
    I did not yet see my name on this list… but I wonder, is it just a matter of time?

    My opinion only – This thread is nothing more than a well presented witch hunt using the classic good guy-bad guy / divide and conquer approach which has humanity dangling between two “supernatural” enemies and which does nothing but shove the less discerning human deeper and deeper into his own hole.

    Most readers will come away with this impression (which is for many a reinforcement of the dynamic they have been fed since birth).

    Here is what is being presented –

    Lucifer - - - - - - - - - humanity - - - - - - - - - GOD

    Lucifer and his minions

    vs

    Humanity

    which can only be saved by or guided by

    GOD (and his only begotten supernatural SON, Jesus Christ and/or the many other saviors of the era)

    Whereas readers of Houman’s thread might have realized the actual dynamic to be -
    Humanity - - - - malevolent ETs

    from this view...

    “Humanity” is “us sans a them” and for myself would include all beings who are children of creation regardless of where/how/who/what/why they manifest to be and which leaves with each individual their full, individual responsibility as to their experience - some in this group have chosen to explore the "being needed" dynamic thus have become food supply.

    malevolent ETs - Within the above group I call “Humanity” I see malevolent ETs which might be some or all Pleiadiens (and/or whichever ET group or groups have created the Jesus Christ of the New Testiment and his GOD amongst many other “saviors” and their gods) which have chosen to explore the "need" dynamic thus have become "eaters."

    I have had to come to a difficult conclusion regarding this thread (hard because its not fun shredding someone else's possible illusion)… that it plays directly to the vulnerable who cannot or will not discover (or should I say rediscover) the true / whole being that each and every one of us is. Am I perhaps playing the role of a savior? Perhaps a wolf in shepherd's clothing?

    I would also suspect I shall now be labeled a Luciferian and/or thought to be one at least. I align with nothing other than myself and real beings I have come to know and trust knowing the risks of trusting anyone including myself... perhaps this is simply exploration with a bit of courage.

    In summary

    Unfortunately I conclude this thread can be a trap which can then throw the reader into weeks, months perhaps years of spinning round and round, reinforcing the programming… solidifying themselves even further as a food source.

    Apologies, Vivek but I have to call it as I see it.

    One last comment so there’s nothing but clarity about who/what I am:

    I am a perfect child of creation (“source” or God or any other label each of us individually may want to apply) and I am immortal and eternal.

    My core response as to who/what I am is:

    I am thankful to God for my existence and I hope to return the gift to God by being true to myself and live my truth as it eternally manifests and changes.

    That’s the sum total of my “religion” (and is probably too much already).

    I will self label it… chesterferianism just in case someone tries to lump me under some other preexisting camp.

    justoneman

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Ooo ouch. Love Jordan Maxwell, but have to admit a lot of his material is a bit stretchy. Or it just doesn't sit right. Admittedly I admire the guy because he comes across as intelligent in a day when most people are getting their intellgiences from fluffy inspirational messages from space.

    He does demonstrate that language is primarily our means of programming though even if that demonstration sometimes doesn't put him in altogether flattering light.

    On the other hand so does his commentator in the video.

    Knowing the actual meanings of words and what symbolism is, IS important.
    Yea, I did like him too, but after looking into his information and statements of correlation with Blavatsky I'm beginning to have "a change of heart".

    That is how disinformation works though, in it's prime state. It's 95% "truth" and as such appealing, then it's that 5% false/twisted/speculative deceptive info that distorts and infects the other 95% but we take it as a whole authority.

    All of these people (or most) that I listed in the OP (and Maxwell, Wilcock, and people like Nexus Magazine - I WILL get to that later) keep this same style of ratio (come to think of it a lot of people to - me too). We have all of this truth to offer but it comes out infected (egoic) and distorted based on our beliefs. It just so happens that the New Ages "5%" infection is Luciferian at it's core and I don't want to be a part of that system, that doctrine, or that agenda. They are trying to externalize that belief system on the world incrementally (exponetially increasing over the last ~150 or so years) and it's bad medicine.

    SIDENOTE (unrelated to your post 9eagle9): My 5% may smack of "Christianity" at it's core BUT nobody knows my stance really because I haven't stated it outright. I have stated that I BELIEVE the BIBLE has been compromised in it's journey to the present moment AND I think it was convoluted in the first place. I have also stated my BELIEF in the authority of Jesus Christ and nothing beyond that, nothing about what I think he represented, his proxy status, his agenda or anything like that. I started this thread knowing full well what I was getting into as far as arguements based on "my beliefs" and trust me I see the irony, and I welcome people pointing it out and all but this thread is about exposing the LUCIFERIAN agenda, not the Christian one. I am aware they are inextricably linked in many ways, and some of the material I post has a heaping side dish of fanaticism, dogma, etc etc but that ain't the meat of the dish and I understand that some people don't like their food touching. I tried to outline this in the added sidenote of the OP.

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    Vivek… I love ya buddy, but… After careful exploration of your thread here and since most of the folk targeted by this thread are not with us in body and/or unavailable to and/or don’t care to defend themselves… I am compelled to do so (because it’s my nature to stir the pot)… so here goes.
    I get it man, I really do, and your welcome to post whatever you like here. I've made the same style argument against others and I am damn good at making arguments against myself even. Be that as it may I'm "stickin' to my guns" on this one.

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    Vivek, you mentioned this is not a religious thread, but it is. you are empowering duality or polarity.

    What is wrong with Blavatsky, she states the truth and no bs.

    Lucifer is Venus and jesus is Archangel Michael. the war between the dark and light is over, transcend duality and move into unified consciousness. We are one humanity. spread the peace and love.

    The real war now is the war on consciousness, the war on mother Earth and the war on humanity.

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    Makes sense as a lot of religions and philosophies were corrupted too. Not sure if Christianity is at the core of this, because this Luciferian agenda

    1) existed before Christianity.

    2) Much of the corrupted 'magic' associated with it seems to be corruption of druidic principles or earlier traditions that were similar in nature. the occult things we don't see unless we know how to look

    3) Christianity among other religions and philosophies seems to be just another vehicle or vector to dispense it--out of many.

    It does seem weird that an corrupted version of druidic nature would use Christianity to insinuate itself into the psyche when Christianity itself was entirely against druidism playing the better part in bringing down that culture down. But they are very cunning , most of our Lucifer oriented world leaders claim to be Christians.It's their cover. Then again one has to ponder if Christianity was targeting the druidism in it's whole form or the corruptive druidism--blurring the lines between the two would make it difficult for anyone to know which is which.

    If you go way way back , before organized religions like Abrahamic religions one sees the that across the globe early cultures had philosophies that were strikingly similair in thought, form and expression.




    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Ooo ouch. Love Jordan Maxwell, but have to admit a lot of his material is a bit stretchy. Or it just doesn't sit right. Admittedly I admire the guy because he comes across as intelligent in a day when most people are getting their intellgiences from fluffy inspirational messages from space.

    He does demonstrate that language is primarily our means of programming though even if that demonstration sometimes doesn't put him in altogether flattering light.

    On the other hand so does his commentator in the video.

    Knowing the actual meanings of words and what symbolism is, IS important.
    Yea, I did like him too, but after looking into his information and statements of correlation with Blavatsky I'm beginning to have "a change of heart".

    That is how disinformation works though, in it's prime state. It's 95% "truth" and as such appealing, then it's that 5% false/twisted/speculative deceptive info that distorts and infects the other 95% but we take it as a whole authority.

    All of these people (or most) that I listed in the OP (and Maxwell, Wilcock, and people like Nexus Magazine - I WILL get to that later) keep this same style of ratio (come to think of it a lot of people to - me too). We have all of this truth to offer but it comes out infected (egoic) and distorted based on our beliefs. It just so happens that the New Ages "5%" infection is Luciferian at it's core and I don't want to be a part of that system, that doctrine, or that agenda. They are trying to externalize that belief system on the world incrementally (exponetially increasing over the last ~150 or so years) and it's bad medicine.

    SIDENOTE (unrelated to your post 9eagle9): My 5% may smack of "Christianity" at it's core BUT nobody knows my stance really because I haven't stated it outright. I have stated that I BELIEVE the BIBLE has been compromised in it's journey to the present moment AND I think it was convoluted in the first place. I have also stated my BELIEF in the authority of Jesus Christ and nothing beyond that, nothing about what I think he represented, his proxy status, his agenda or anything like that. I started this thread knowing full well what I was getting into as far as arguements based on "my beliefs" and trust me I see the irony, and I welcome people pointing it out and all but this thread is about exposing the LUCIFERIAN agenda, not the Christian one. I am aware they are inextricably linked in many ways, and some of the material I post has a heaping side dish of fanaticism, dogma, etc etc but that ain't the meat of the dish and I understand that some people don't like their food touching. I tried to outline this in the added sidenote of the OP.


    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Well since the war is all over nothing will be disturbed by us talking about the aftermath of the war.

    It's not a religious discussion its a discussion about what may be possibly hiding in religion ....




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    Vivek, you mentioned this is not a religious thread, but it is. you are empowering duality or polarity.

    What is wrong with Blavatsky, she states the truth and no bs.

    Lucifer is Venus and jesus is Archangel Michael. the war between the dark and light is over, transcend duality and move into unified consciousness. We are one humanity. spread the peace and love.

    The real war now is the war on consciousness, the war on mother Earth and the war on humanity.

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Makes sense as a lot of religions and philosophies were corrupted too. Not sure if Christianity is at the core of this, because this Luciferian agenda

    1) existed before Christianity.

    2) Much of the corrupted 'magic' associated with it seems to be corruption of druidic principles or earlier traditions that were similar in nature. the occult things we don't see unless we know how to look

    3) Christianity among other religions and philosophies seems to be just another vehicle or vector to dispense it--out of many.

    It does seem weird that an corrupted version of druidic nature would use Christianity to insinuate itself into the psyche when Christianity itself was entirely against druidism playing the better part in bringing down that culture down. But they are very cunning , most of our Lucifer oriented world leaders claim to be Christians.It's their cover. Then again one has to ponder if Christianity was targeting the druidism in it's whole form or the corruptive druidism--blurring the lines between the two would make it difficult for anyone to know which is which.

    If you go way way back , before organized religions like Abrahamic religions one sees the that across the globe early cultures had philosophies that were strikingly similair in thought, form and expression.




    Quote Posted by Vivek (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Ooo ouch. Love Jordan Maxwell, but have to admit a lot of his material is a bit stretchy. Or it just doesn't sit right. Admittedly I admire the guy because he comes across as intelligent in a day when most people are getting their intellgiences from fluffy inspirational messages from space.

    He does demonstrate that language is primarily our means of programming though even if that demonstration sometimes doesn't put him in altogether flattering light.

    On the other hand so does his commentator in the video.

    Knowing the actual meanings of words and what symbolism is, IS important.
    Yea, I did like him too, but after looking into his information and statements of correlation with Blavatsky I'm beginning to have "a change of heart".

    That is how disinformation works though, in it's prime state. It's 95% "truth" and as such appealing, then it's that 5% false/twisted/speculative deceptive info that distorts and infects the other 95% but we take it as a whole authority.

    All of these people (or most) that I listed in the OP (and Maxwell, Wilcock, and people like Nexus Magazine - I WILL get to that later) keep this same style of ratio (come to think of it a lot of people to - me too). We have all of this truth to offer but it comes out infected (egoic) and distorted based on our beliefs. It just so happens that the New Ages "5%" infection is Luciferian at it's core and I don't want to be a part of that system, that doctrine, or that agenda. They are trying to externalize that belief system on the world incrementally (exponetially increasing over the last ~150 or so years) and it's bad medicine.

    SIDENOTE (unrelated to your post 9eagle9): My 5% may smack of "Christianity" at it's core BUT nobody knows my stance really because I haven't stated it outright. I have stated that I BELIEVE the BIBLE has been compromised in it's journey to the present moment AND I think it was convoluted in the first place. I have also stated my BELIEF in the authority of Jesus Christ and nothing beyond that, nothing about what I think he represented, his proxy status, his agenda or anything like that. I started this thread knowing full well what I was getting into as far as arguements based on "my beliefs" and trust me I see the irony, and I welcome people pointing it out and all but this thread is about exposing the LUCIFERIAN agenda, not the Christian one. I am aware they are inextricably linked in many ways, and some of the material I post has a heaping side dish of fanaticism, dogma, etc etc but that ain't the meat of the dish and I understand that some people don't like their food touching. I tried to outline this in the added sidenote of the OP.


    ¤=[Post Update]=¤

    Well since the war is all over nothing will be disturbed by us talking about the aftermath of the war.

    It's not a religious discussion its a discussion about what may be possibly hiding in religion ....




    Quote Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
    Vivek, you mentioned this is not a religious thread, but it is. you are empowering duality or polarity.

    What is wrong with Blavatsky, she states the truth and no bs.

    Lucifer is Venus and jesus is Archangel Michael. the war between the dark and light is over, transcend duality and move into unified consciousness. We are one humanity. spread the peace and love.

    The real war now is the war on consciousness, the war on mother Earth and the war on humanity.
    That's what I was thinking too - this "agenda" existing before Christianity ever hit the scene. I need to look more into Druidism but "next on the list" for me was the Vedas and Hinduism (the kundalini/serpent power is all about enlightenment sure but talk about symbology - enlightenment goes both ways)

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    Lucifer is Venus and jesus is Archangel Michael.

    Going Home's remark somewhat seems to sum up symbolism, representation and hiding in religions and persons.

    Lucifer is Venus and Archangel Michael is Jesus or Venus is Lucifer and Jesus is Archangel Michael.

    So depending how well people can look at things, Venus has always represented or symbolized love which means Lucifer is love. One may be inclined to know that someone is attempting to convey to us that Lucifer is loving.

    Archangel Michael is an archon as his name suggest, or an aeon.

    And I could go on with this for 360 degrees playing, ahem, devil's advocate but I think that will suffice to SHOW or demonstrate my point, as the evidence of hiding things behind symbols is quite clearly expressed here.

    Regardless of any of this is true, false, good, bad or indifferent it shows basically what Vivek is attempting to convey--what is hiding in our religions and our beliefs.

    Or why can't Jesus just be Jesus and AA Michael just be AA Michael or Venus just be Venus etc etc etc. Why do these entities need to be veiled within the context of another entity or represented by them.

    If something has to that great of length to veil itself one is automatically suspect.

    Does the truth have to hide?

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    Fire and Ice: The Brotherhood of Saturn

    PS: for your convenience the table of contents is on the 11th page of the pdf below



    Here are some links to the original pdf and also a website (no pdf):

    http://pyreaus.com/downloads/fire_ic...as_saturni.pdf

    MAGICAL TEACHINGS OF GERMANY'S GREATEST SECRET OCCULT ORDER:

    http://www.american-buddha.com/nazi.fireiceflower.2.htm
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    ok Vivek and 9 eagle, yes I understand the truth is hard to discern and is hidden, but why? Is majority of Humanity ready for the truth. Have we reached a higher consciousness yet where we can use this truth to shape our world.

    What is the real agenda of the elite? Is it control, it is energy from our emotions? what is the end game? Are they, the Archons, the global elite, the greys, or this royal blood line; are they competing with God's plan.

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    New World Order or Occult Secret Destiny?

    The New Age Movement and Service to The Plan

    The New World Order as envisioned by the Elite is hardly a recent undertaking. Theirs is a philosophy rooted in ancient occult traditions. Success is near, and the infiltration of society by New Age occultism is the reason for this success. The New World Order has never been solely about world government, rather, from the beginning its proponents have been privy to secret doctrines and it is a spiritual plan more than anything.

    If one failed to take into account the occult nature of the New World Order, they would be remiss. The UN and the New Age have been bed-fellows since the beginning. America's secret destiny is the product of Rosicrucian and Freemason forefathers. The New Atlantis as proposed in Francis Bacon's work is almost at hand. The Ancient Mysteries are being studied for illumination and enlightenment by the New World Order's elite. Not to mention the New Age gurus — dutifully recruiting on behalf of the Secret Brotherhood.

    In 1980, Marylin Ferguson compiled and espoused a synthesis involving the theories of transformation and the secret plan of the Aquarian Age. In her studies of the scientific advancements of this age involving entropy and syntropy, holism, holographs, paradigm shifts, the uncertainty principle and evolution, she discovered that, "for the first time an American renaissance is taking place in all disciplines, breaking the boundaries between them, transforming them at their farthest reaches—where they all converge." (The Aquarian Conspiracy, p.12)

    Speaking of the networks and web of influence, Ferguson proclaimed: "There are legions of conspirators... in corporations, universities, hospitals, on the faculties of public schools, in factories, in doctors' offices, in state and federal agencies, on city councils and the White House staff, in state organizations, in virtually all arenas of policy making in the country [U.S.]...[including] at the cabinet level of the United States Government." (ibid. p.24) However, other New Age proponents said that this is innacurate, in that she had understated the influence of the New Age worldwide, especially in the UN and the EEC.

    It is no coincidence that America has become the center of New Age and New World Order conspiracies. The Theosophical and Rosicrucian traditions hold that every nation has a spiritual destiny guided by a hierarchy of beings using all ethical (or un-ethical) means of manifesting the "divine plan" through the will of the nation's leaders.

    A proponent of the New Age and the Secret Brotherhood's plan for a New World Order is Robert Hieronimus. In his book America's Secret Destiny, he traced the spiritual vision of America's founding fathers and the plan's eventual fruition in what we call the New World Order and the New Age Movement (both of which are synonymous). He stresses that the founding fathers of America had the equivalent of "Masters" and were pupils in a sense, much like today's powerful Elite have Masters and Gurus, following the teachings of the Great Plan.
    According to the Rosicrucians and Theosophists, supporting the divine plan are great beings refered to as masters of the physical and spiritual planes. The evolution of America owes much to the seed thoughts of four masters—Kuthumi, El Morya, Rogoczy, and Djwhal Khul. Some of the founders of America may have been consciously or unconsciously students of these teachers, just as some contemporary Americans are pupils of these masters. In fact, the motto of the heirarchy of world teachers is identical with America's destiny—the brotherhood of man and the Fatherhood of God. (p. 95)
    Another writer, from the opposite camp, confirms the assertions of Hieronimus. Willy Peterson writes:
    In order to reach their aims of world unity and thus engage the whole world in service to the Plan, "enlightened" Freemasons and New Agers have been pushing for collectivist motifs that promote monistic pantheism and unity. This is why the chief instigators to the globalist League of Nations and the United Nations have been Theosophists, trying to work out the plan. This is why the verbiage and aims at the U.N. is for world peace and brotherhood. It is a spiritual undertaking in a secular world. Lucis Trust has had three think-tanks located at the U.N. Plaza in New York for around fifty years. No wonder the former Assistant Secretary General to the U.N., Robert Muller, is a devoted disciple of Alice Bailey, whose book, A Treatise on White Magic, forms the basis for the Robert Muller schools. (The Leavening)
    These people are called the torchbearers or lightbearers of the New World Order. A spiritual plan that has been traced to the time of Nimrod and the Tower of Babel, up through to the Illuminati and onwards. "A loosely-knit world conspiracy," David Allen Lewis writes, "a so called Network of Illuminists." "Whether the Illuminati has one special organization that is its orginal descendant... we can be very sure that its philosophical torchbearers are represented by literally hundreds of organizations and individuals in many diverse realms." (Dark Angels of Light)

    A Blueprint For Destiny

    Robert Heironomus says that "America's Great Seal may be seen as a blueprint for the elevation of consciousness. It says, in part, that we must transform ourselves before we can change the world, and that it is during the process of self-transformation that we can catch a glimpse of what part we are to play in national and global transformation."

    The mandala of the New World Order and Illuminati control. "Annuit Coeptis—He has Blessed our Beginning", "Novus Ordo Seclorum—New Order of the Ages". The All-Seeing Eye of Horus, the resurrected Egyptian Sun God, biblically refered to as Lucifer, the angel of light.

    In occult doctrine it is thought that "from the union of spirit and matter (the pyramid is made of stone, rock, and earth—and represents the unconscious. The capstone is made of an immaterial substance—light or spirit—and is conscious), a new being—a transformed being—is created. The seal's reverse depicts a separation state in the separation of the eye the triangle."

    "The pyramid exemplifies the initiation stage,... it is the house of initiation, in which the candidate confronts the world of darkness and enters the world of spirit. By passing the tests of the elements, the candidate is initiated into the realm of higher consciousness." (Hieronimus ibid., p.92) After succesfully completing the initiation process, the candidate is reborn, and joins the single eye in the pyramid.

    The New World Order, or rather the philosophy its deliverers hold to be true, is one and the same as the New Age ideal of man's divinity and self-transformation. In order to partake in this gnostic fufillment of "The Great Plan" one must awaken to the original sin of Lucifer, as proposed to Eve in the Garden of Eden, that "we can be as Gods." (Gen. 3:5) So it is not suprising to find that Christians, specifically, are cited as the main obstacle hindering the success of this New Age-New World Order.

    The reason for this, is the New Age belief in many "saviors" and "enlightened teachers", masters and gurus—it's all good and fine when the goal is the false teaching of man's divinity. The New Agers see many ways to salvation; Christians proclaim that there is only one Way - Jesus Christ. "For the gate is small, and narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it." (Matt. 7:14) The Bible states that this is in reality the "broad way that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter it." (Matt. 7:13) Therefore, the only religion not compatible with The New Age, and hence the coming New World Order, is the belief and strict adherence in the Word God – with traditional Christianity being looked upon as particularly pernicious.

    In Dark Secrets of the New Age, Texe Marrs wrote:
    The New Age is a universal open-arms religion that excludes from its ranks only those who believe in Jesus Christ and a Personal God. Buddhists, Shintoist, Satanists, Secular Humanists, witches, witch doctors and shamans — All who reject Christianity are invited to become trusted members of the New Age family. Worshippers of separate faiths and denominations are to be unified in a common purpose: THE GLORIFICATION OF MAN.
    The Guardians of the Mysteries

    Freemasonry, by its own accord, practices the ancient mysteries of Egypt, and has as a primary goal, the re-instatement of this mystery religion for the coming World Order.
    [INDENT]
    “The magical mystery religion of Ancient Egypt exercised a great fascination over Renaissance man, which was incorporated into—the newly formed—Lodges at that time. The mysterious heiroglyphs were considered to be symbols of hidden knowledge. Symbols and gestures became a means of conveying secrets and "truths". The cosmos was seen as an organic unity. It was peopled by a hierarchy of spirits which exercised all kinds of influences and sympathies. The practice of magic became a holy quest.”
    [/INDENT
    ]- Michael Rogge, New Age Spirituality: The roots of the New Age Movement Part I
    Back in 1927, Freemason W.L. Wilmhurst saw the dawning of the Aquarian Age as the fufillment of the "Plan". In The Meaning of Masonry, p.4, he writes:
    In this new Aquarian age, when many individuals and groups are working in various ways for the eventual restoration of the mysteries, an increasing number of aspirants are beginning to recognize that Freemasonry may well be the vehicle for this achievement
    He would be well proud, I'm sure, of today's mainstream acceptance of those very same occult mysteries. Another passage on page 46-47, proves the teaching of Freemasonry is the same as New Age beliefs:
    He begins his Masonic career as the natural man; he ends it by becoming through its discipline, a regenerated man... This the evolution of man into superman—was always the purpose of the ancient Mysteries, and the real purpose of modern Masonry is, not the social and charitable purposes to which so much attention is paid, but the expediting of the spiritual evolution of those who aspire to perfect their own nature and transform it into a more god-like quality.
    Freemasonry, through its mysteries, will soon usher in a New World Religion for the New World Order. A modern day Tower of Babel and the ultimate unification of the world's religions. The New Age welcomes these goals and looks to the "light" of Masonry as its esoteric basis for occult initiation into the New World Order. Benjamin Creme writes:
    “The New Religion will manifest, for instance,through organizations like Masonry. In Freemasonry is embedded the core or the secret heart of the occult mysteries, wrapped up on number, metaphor and symbol ...”
    - The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom, p.87
    Freemason and co-founder of Lucifer Publishing Company (now called Lucis Trust), Foster Bailey, concurs, "Is it not possible from a contemplation of this side of Masonic teaching that it may provide all that is necessary for the formulation of a universal religion?"(The Spirit of Masonry, p.113) Foster Bailey states that Masonry "is the descendant of, or is founded upon, a divinely imparted religion..." This religion he explains, "...was the first United World Religion. Then came the era of separation of many religions and sectarianism. Today we are working again towards a World Universal Religion." (ibid p.31)

    To biblical students these are shocking admissions and it adds fuel to the charge of a Masonic Antichrist in our midst. "It is these Mysteries which Christ will restore upon His reapearance," Alice Bailey reveals, "thus reviving the churches in a new form, and restoring the hidden Mystery." (The Reappearance of the Christ, p. 122) Bailey is giving these "revelations" by her channeled Master Djwhal Khul — a disembodied "Ascended Master". Her "Christ" is indeed the Antichrist in the strictest sense of the word. Antichrist means substitute for or in place of Christ. She goes on to say that "These ancient Mysteries were originally given to humanity by the Hierarchy [of which Djwhal Khul is a part of] and contain the entire clue to the evolutionary process, hidden in numbers, in ritual, in words and in symbology; these veil the secret of man's origin and destiny, picturing to him in rite and ritual, the long, long path which he must tread, back into the light." (ibid, p.121-22)

    So what do we have here?

    -The New Age tells its disciples that they are working for the Hierarchy.
    -The teachings of the New Age are giving by the Hierarchy.
    -The movement for the installement of the Antichrist is giving the go-ahead by the Hierarchy — Djwhal Khul's number one message for New Age disciples is "prepare men for the reappearance of the Christ. This is your first duty." (The Externalization of the Hierarchy, p.614)
    -The Ancient Mysteries, being practiced by both Freemasonry and the New Age, were giving to humanity by the Hierarchy.
    -The real purpose of Masonry — taught to man, from the Hierarchy — is the expediting of the spiritual evolution, to transform their nature into a god-like superman.
    -The Serpent caused the Fall in the Garden of Eden by giving Eve this very same message.
    “Man is a god in the making. And as the mystic myths of Egypt, on the potter's wheel, he is being molded. When his light shines out to lift and preserve all things, he receives the triple crown of godhood.”

    - Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 92
    “European mysticism was not dead at the time the United States of America was founded. The hand of the mysteries controlled in the establishment of the new government for the signature of the mysteries may still be seen on the Great Seal of the United states of America. Careful analysis of the seal discloses a mass of occult and masonic symbols chief among them, the so-called American Eagle. ... the American eagle upon the Great Seal is but a conventionalised phoenix ...”

    “Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the intiated few.”

    - Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI
    Source: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/New...orld_Order.htm
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    It's not hard to discern once you see what is not the truth. Because of the very nature of what you stated, how could we know the 'truth' of Michael if he's really Jesus, or John, or Lucille Ball.

    The elite doesn't have an agenda , planning time ended a long time ago, this has and always has been execution time. When the plan is executed and has been for thousands of years. It's completed or nearly so. World dominion. Control of the world not stewardship of it although I trust they think they are care-taking the world.

    God's plan is subjected to whether one experiences god as an entiyy external of them or an energy moving through them.

    Energy typically doesn't have a plan it fills a space. Luciferian energy simply filled a space because we allowed it, however, in our ignorance, being naive or whatever. Seperation from God regardless if god is an energy or an entity.

    If God the entity has a plan then it would seem that everyone is competing for it including those who claim they are abiding by God's plan.

    Knowing the mind of God? We don't know our own minds and how easily they can be deceived let along claim to know the mind of God.


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    ok Vivek and 9 eagle, yes I understand the truth is hard to discern and is hidden, but why? Is majority of Humanity ready for the truth. Have we reached a higher consciousness yet where we can use this truth to shape our world.

    What is the real agenda of the elite? Is it control, it is energy from our emotions? what is the end game? Are they, the Archons, the global elite, the greys, or this royal blood line; are they competing with God's plan.

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    yes isn't what you have posted true in what and who were are becoming. Aren't we becoming Gods and Goddesses? Aren't we transforming spiritually. Won't a New Age of Christ consciousness be a great thing for humanity and Nature?

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    ok Vivek and 9 eagle, yes I understand the truth is hard to discern and is hidden, but why?
    Perhaps it is not hidden, but simply not comprehended. When Europe believed that the world was flat, was the truth hidden? No. We struggle with foundational concepts such as "time" and "infinity" and yet they are not hidden.

    We are an arrogant species by nature and so we think that if a thing can be known then certainly we must be intellectually and spiritually evolved enough to know it.

    Also, it often happens that a knowledge appears to be hidden simply because the "answer", when it arrives, is not the one that we were expecting and so it is rejected or unrecognized.
    "We sit together, the mountain and me, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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