Christ, the Matrix films, and the politics of separation.

[music]

When we realise that we (all of us) are one, and that “one” is God, then we step into our own power and cannot be controlled. This is where the politics of separation comes in.

The message of the Christ Consciousness, for example, which I recognise within myself, has been corrupted to further the politics of separation. In organised religion, Christ is portrayed as a supernatural being possessed of powers and attributes that we (as mere mortals) can never hope to achieve. The true message of the Christ (WE ARE ONE, WE ARE GOD) encourages empowerment, and the excising of this from Christian dogma began with Paul the misogynistic Roman, and continued through to the First Council of Nicosia (300 AD), and beyond to the present day. We are told that Christ is THE ONE, and we only reach heaven through him, but to me (and many others who personally experience Christ Consciousness) this is ridiculous. We do not need a mediator to the divine, because the divine is WITHIN US.

Everybody entertains the idea that they are THE ONE. That most famous of Illuminati films, The Matrix (and sequels) firmly reinforces the idea that there is one person (and one only) who holds the key to our very souls. Once we accept this idea, we are doomed forever to labour within the desert of separation. Unity consciousness is not possible when we entertain ideas centred around THE ONE, whether or not we believe that this “one” is ourselves. This is the same line of thought which sees nations turning to father-figure dictators, and which sees the abused habitually seeking out the abuser to form relationships with.

One Love and Unity.

[ThresholdRising]

Giving every object, sound, etc, you see individually the same label whether it be love, light or any word so that everything you percieve is this one label, helps with this perception.

Thanks for the great post.

[RedeZra]

Posted by music (here)
We do not need a mediator to the divine, because the divine is WITHIN US.

i beg to differ

there is nothing Divine with or within a human being


as a species we are destroying our planet and each other

living a lie and believing we are above accountability

because somehow seven billion non Divine beings make up Divinity


God must have been mocked long enough

what patience how long suffering

Mercy

[ThresholdRising]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by music (here)
We do not need a mediator to the divine, because the divine is WITHIN US.

i beg to differ

there is nothing Divine with or within a human being


as a species we are destroying our planet and each other

living a lie and believing we are above accountability

because somehow seven billion non Divine beings make up Divinity


God must have been mocked long enough

what patience how long suffering

Mercy

Isn't matter and energy devine? And since matter and energy are devine and we are matter and energy, doesn't that make us devine?

[RedeZra]

Posted by ThresholdRising (here)

Isn't matter and energy devine? And since matter and energy are devine and we are matter and energy, doesn't that make us devine?

i'm afraid not

matter and energy are just creations

whereas God the Creator is Spirit

[Godiam]

OMG!!!! RedeZra, Why do you keep pushing an outdated DOGMA that seriously belongs in the DARK AGES???

Hell and Damnation are control mechanisms for the unthinking sheeple that still believe their religious leaders are the end authority on all things pertaining to moral behavior!

We actually live in the 21st century now and the LESSER God that controls religious dogma is no longer relevant to any free thinking individual, and it doesn't matter how much you go on about humans being apart from god....... The fact remains Humans are A PART OF GOD, therefore we are ALL ONE WITH THE DIVINE!!!!

HUGS...........Godiam

[Peace of Mind]

The minute we're born we are dying...
yet, we grow,
Learning thru free will...
always striving to know.

Life is the school of all schools,
Filled with endless lessions and blessings.
We are the Magnificent Insignificant,
we fail when we're stressing.

The christ consciousnes,
God is within...
but if conditioned to sin
its hard to win.

With great power comes great responsibility,
the secret is humility....
for unlocking more abilities.

But metaphorically,
like all Scriptures...
meant to paint a picture...
but often overlooked
because now the language is richer....
making us confused blind and bitter,
finger pointers and quitters....
proudly cowardly
blindly self hate admitters.

Divided...
yet survivors and conquerors.
how can a species so intelligent be so bonkers.
The sleppling giant,
The gullible Gulliver....
can only strenghen thru alliance...
true meaning of lovers.

Discover whats undercover my sisters and brothers.
We are the second coming,
born thru the suffer.

Awakening,
the feeling of rebirth....
rise of the phynix....
but the pain comes first.

Now dust off the ashes....
rise and shine.
Let there be light....
now is your time.

Peace

[Kindred]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

i'm afraid not

matter and energy are just creations

whereas God the Creator is Spirit

And WE are - Each - a Part of That Spirit... and that Spirit resides Within Us...

Therefore, We Are Divine
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Jesus said: - "Let not him who seeketh cease from seeking until he hath found: -

. . . And when he hath found, he shall be amazed -

. . . And when he hath been amazed, he shall reign -

. . . And when he shall reign, he shall have rest.

. . . The kingdom of heaven is within you and whosoever shall know himself shall find it.

. . . Strive therefore, to know yourselves and ye shall know that you are in The City of God, and ye are The City."

citation: http://www.christianscience.org/Jesus2John.html
another: http://www.endtime.org/standard/vol9no1.html (about 1/2 way down the page)

I'll also suggest reading Thiaoouba Prophecy
free pdf: http://www.lanuovaumanita.net/files/tp-typeset.pdf
(Quote John 8:23: “And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”)

In Unity, Peace and Love

[RedeZra]

Posted by Kindred (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)

i'm afraid not

matter and energy are just creations

whereas God the Creator is Spirit

And WE are - Each - a Part of That Spirit... and that Spirit resides Within Us...

Therefore, We Are Divine
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Jesus said: - "Let not him who seeketh cease from seeking until he hath found: -

. . . And when he hath found, he shall be amazed -

. . . And when he hath been amazed, he shall reign -

. . . And when he shall reign, he shall have rest.

. . . The kingdom of heaven is within you and whosoever shall know himself shall find it.

i'm sorry

Access Denied


a human being must be born again

to enter eternal life in Heaven


Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. - John 3:5


acceptance of the Sacrifice of Christ and the trust in Jesus and the obedience to His commands

will invite the Holy spirit of God to dwell within

and make one born again


able to squeeze through the eye of the needle

which is the gate to the Kingdom of God



make no mistake about it

Heaven is not a given and not even earned


it is time to question ourselves

why we run after gods or idols

when it was Jesus who was slain for our sins

[heyokah]

i'm sorry

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Help!
I was raised without any religion, without obedience and commands.
Instead there was much love and compassion and a lot of common sense.

Am I going to burn in hell now, RedeZra ?

[RedeZra]

Posted by heyokah (here)

i'm sorry

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Help!
I was raised without any religion, without obedience and commands.
Instead there was much love and compassion and a lot of common sense.

Am I going to burn in hell now, RedeZra ?

i hope not

do you love God and treat everyone with charity and compassion

and not into killing stealing lying cheating


then there is no reason to burn

[heyokah]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by heyokah (here)

i'm sorry

Access Denied

Help!
I was raised without any religion, without obedience and commands.
Instead there was much love and compassion and a lot of common sense.

Am I going to burn in hell now, RedeZra ?

i hope not

do you love God and treat everyone with charity and compassion

and not into killing stealing lying cheating


then there is no reason to burn

So I don't HAVE to be IN CHRIST.....

Thank God

Thank RedeZra

[RedeZra]

Posted by heyokah (here)
So I don't HAVE to be IN CHRIST.....

Thank God

Thank RedeZra

there is perhaps a problem when feeling embarrassed by association with Jesus Christ

as it is He who sends the Holy spirit to guide and guard us

[Lifebringer]

Beautiful and poeticly spoken like my Son in GA. Rap can be a message of awakening to the bs around you and uniting for humanity to make the changes humans need in the world. It doesn't all have to be about the feeling inside a physical body during sex.

LOVE YA MESSAGE. KEEP ON KEEPING ON!

[ghostrider]

The kingdom of God is within you. You have what you need inside you. The infinite soul. It will guide you into what you are looking for. A still small voice.

[Maia Gabrial]

i beg to differ

there is nothing Divine with or within a human being

Aren't you judging...?

[Kindred]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

i'm sorry

Access Denied


a human being must be born again

to enter eternal life in Heaven

I don't think you, or anyone here on Earth can enforce that statement...

In fact, I find much of what you state as rather 'elitist'. Also, this whole 'denial' bit seems somewhat Evil - at the very minimum, quite negative...

And I don't think God/Source/Spirit is 'negative' in any way, shape, or form, much less 'evil'.

I will also point out that much of the 'bible' has been re-written and interpreted so as to fit the needs of the 'controllers' , i.e.; Pope, priests, and other clergy, specifically for maintaining their control over the masses via the suggestion of 'sin', and other means by which to make the populace feel subordinate to these authority figures. To suggest that 'God' would be unforgiving, spiteful and vengeful is not at all 'god-like', IMHO.

I'll offer this portion of a chapter in Thiaoouba Prophecy to further support my original assertion. This portion of the narrative is a quotation from Thao in the process of teaching Michel the origin of Jesus...
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“There is a passage in your Bible that says: “It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Paradise”

The Vatican is certainly the wealthiest church on your planet, and yet the priests have made vows of poverty. They have no fear of being damned, (yet they believe in damnation), because they say it is the Church which is rich, not them. This is really just a play on words since they make up the Church. It’s like the son of a multi-billionaire claiming that he is not rich – only his father is.

The Church has not distorted the passage in the Bible relating to wealth. They have used it to their advantage, for isn’t it preferable that the rich grow poorer at the profit of the Church?

The young generations on Earth are in the process of self-examination. They have come to a turning point - events have led them to it and I know that they feel alone, more than any younger generation has before them. It isn’t by joining sects or religious groups that they are going to be free of their solitude.

First, if you want to ‘elevate’ yourself, you must meditate and then concentrate, which is different, although often the two are confused. You do not need to go to a special place, for the greatest and most beautiful temple of man is Inside himself. There, he can enter into communication with his Higher-self, by concentration; asking his higher self to help him surmount his Earthly, material difficulties, and they can meet together for this purpose. Those of them who are more experienced, will be able to give advice, but no one should ever adopt a position as master.

The Master came 2000 years ago – or, rather, I should say ‘one of the masters’, but men crucified him. However, for approximately 300 of your years, the message he brought with him was followed. After that, it was distorted and now, on Earth, you have returned to a point that is worse than that of 2000 years ago.

The young generation of whom I have just spoken, are rising up on your planet and realizing, little by little, the truth of many of the things I have been talking about. But they must learn to look inside themselves for their answers. They should not wait for help to come to them from elsewhere, or they will be disappointed.”
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Now, some will dismiss this book as 'science fiction'... this determination must be made individually, for All have Free Will. Just the same, nothing written in this book can be disproved, and it speaks of many truths throughout.

In Unity, Peace and Love
for God IS Love

(What I can say - for myself - is that I Know 'Thiaoouba' is the Truth. There is a reason for this understanding, which I will withhold for the present.)

I'll also offer this link to the Light Channels presentation of May 7th... at about 40min's in, is a direct admonishment as to the 'true' nature of God/Source/Spirit.. that of Absolute Love where No One is 'left behind'... for That is the nature of a True Loving God...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...238#post504238

[observer]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
[....snip]

a human being must be born again

to enter eternal life in Heaven


Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. - John 3:5

[....snip]

Dear Brother Red,

Here, we again find you trolling the threads, selling your tickets to a failed bridge.

How many times must you be shown the evidence that the entire book you promote as the "Word of God" is nothing more than a creation of an empire bent on perpetuating itself through the enslavement of the mind. The entire message of Yeshua ben Joseph was corrupted with the creation of the Bible. In every case, the words of Yeshua have been contaminated by agents of the Holy Roman Empire.

The concept of being "born again" was known to the Essene Nazarenes as what most of us, on this forum, know as reincarnation. Only after many lives.... in many incarnations.... can one gain the knowledge and understanding necessary to make one worthy to enter the "Kingdom of Heaven", i.e. ascend to higher dimensions of existence.

Yeshua ben Joseph was one of many avatars who was filled with the Christ Consciousness, i.e. Christened, or Christos in the Greek. His message was: anyone could become filled with the Holy Spirit simply by doing what Yeshua taught.

It was the work of the Roman Empire that turned the words of Yeshua into a Trinity Religion and made the ascension to Heaven a service only the Church could provide. This heretical act has been the foundational cause for the past two thousand years of the most obscene pain and suffering inflicted on the Mass of Humanity.

.... and, you continue to promote this hypocrisy as the Word of God !!!

My suggestion to you would be to go back to your Bible Thread and spend some time reviewing the evidence that has been presented to you regarding this issue in that thread.

[Patrikas]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)
[....snip]

a human being must be born again

to enter eternal life in Heaven


Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. - John 3:5

[....snip]

Dear Brother Red,

Here, we again find you trolling the threads, selling your tickets to a failed bridge.

How many times must you be shown the evidence that the entire book you promote as the "Word of God" is nothing more than a creation of an empire bent on perpetuating itself through the enslavement of the mind. The entire message of Yeshua ben Joseph was corrupted with the creation of the Bible. In every case, the words of Yeshua have been contaminated by agents of the Holy Roman Empire.

The concept of being "born again" was known to the Essene Nazarenes as what most of us, on this forum, know as reincarnation. Only after many lives.... in many incarnations.... can one gain the knowledge and understanding necessary to make one worthy to enter the "Kingdom of Heaven", i.e. ascend to higher dimensions of existence.

Yeshua ben Joseph was one of many avatars who was filled with the Christ Consciousness, i.e. Christened, or Christos in the Greek. His message was: anyone could become filled with the Holy Spirit simply by doing what Yeshua taught.

It was the work of the Roman Empire that turned the words of Yeshua into a Trinity Religion and made the ascension to Heaven a service only the Church could provide. This heretical act has been the foundational cause for the past two thousand years of the most obscene pain and suffering inflicted on the Mass of Humanity.

.... and, you continue to promote this hypocrisy as the Word of God !!!

My suggestion to you would be to go back to your Bible Thread and spend some time reviewing the evidence that has been presented to you regarding this issue in that thread.

It s sad that there are many with good intent who hold on to belief systems created to confuse and obstruct their own knowing to their true purpose and intent for being here at this time.......many stand stubbornly at a false gate and do not know it

[Kindred]

Posted by observer (here)

Dear Brother Red,

Here, we again find you trolling the threads, selling your tickets to a failed bridge.

How many times must you be shown the evidence that the entire book you promote as the "Word of God" is nothing more than a creation of an empire bent on perpetuating itself through the enslavement of the mind. The entire message of Yeshua ben Joseph was corrupted with the creation of the Bible. In every case, the words of Yeshua have been contaminated by agents of the Holy Roman Empire.

The concept of being "born again" was known to the Essene Nazarenes as what most of us, on this forum, know as reincarnation. Only after many lives.... in many incarnations.... can one gain the knowledge and understanding necessary to make one worthy to enter the "Kingdom of Heaven", i.e. ascend to higher dimensions of existence.

Yeshua ben Joseph was one of many avatars who was filled with the Christ Consciousness, i.e. Christened, or Christos in the Greek. His message was: anyone could become filled with the Holy Spirit simply by doing what Yeshua taught.

It was the work of the Roman Empire that turned the words of Yeshua into a Trinity Religion and made the ascension to Heaven a service only the Church could provide. This heretical act has been the foundational cause for the past two thousand years of the most obscene pain and suffering inflicted on the Mass of Humanity.

.... and, you continue to promote this hypocrisy as the Word of God !!!

My suggestion to you would be to go back to your Bible Thread and spend some time reviewing the evidence that has been presented to you regarding this issue in that thread.

observer... Thank You for the Education! This background is something I had not heard before, so it strikes with double force.

In Unity, Peace and Love