DEEPAK CHOPRA "Revisited" rebooting focus

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

Firstly, don't confuse the message with the messenger. If it's good information, that's the important thing.

Secondly, to make a vague negative inference or judgment about someone, is IMO simply lacking in integrity.

Thirdly, Chopra never claims he is a saint. In fact he states in the video that we all have both positive and negative aspects of self and that to be real, we should embrace both.

[ljwheat]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
I'm bumping this as my way of saying thanks, ljwheat.

Your commitment to assist everyone to awaken is amazing.

Just how do you manage to find these vids? I think you've got special powers that allow you access to the YouTube matrix.

To answer your question, I’ve always thought everyone thought about stuff, learned stuff, like I do, so never had to much to say, thinking well they already know this and left it at that. Everything in life I’ve come in contact with, I’ve entered that subject, topic, teaching, or documentary, class, like entering a room I record everything that’s in that room like a sponge, before leaving out the other end marked “EXIT” as a walking talking encyclopedia, taking all that data piecing it all together and throwing out what doesn’t fit has been a life long quest, similar to David Wilcock with out the notoriety or egoic fame people have layered on him over the year’s. mastering anything I come in contact with storing the knowledge and moving on to the next magazine in life. I the really love analogies as the glue that holds and validates all the connectedness that surrounds us all.

And most of it is in plain sight, the ability to look behind the Curtin, or back engineer everything I look at came very early in my life, self taught like Edison’s 2,000 battery’s before he came across 2,001-- that worked. And said when asked what it felt like to have so many failures. No NO, “now” I know how to make 2,000 battery’s that don’t work. That knowledge is priceless.

Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together. We know how 2,000 society’s don’t work, and like Edison we are searching for that one society that fits.

OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

All of us have this part to play we must choose to be a witness, juror, or victim. If we are not part of the cure, then we are part of the problem. All I can tell you is before Avalon I was a silent professional student, into anything I didn’t know. Still am, but now just voice erus with a big grinn. John xxx

[Delight]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

You don't have to like it ;-) Thanks for your personal opinion Fred. I personally do not judge messengers, but rather take their message and research it, compare it, analyze it, until it is either mine, or discarded. Try not to shoot the messenger. ;-)


While I'm here:

I found this little very metaphorical (don't try to understand this literally, lol) tidbit on "the present moment ..." (it was actually in my windows clipboard and I accidently hit the paste button while responding to Fred ... I don't believe in accidents that much so here it is!)

"Can you see more clearly now why it is essential in
these closing years of the cycle to release your interpretations?
They belong to the past. And Life exists eternally
in the present. You were intended to share in this eternal
Life. But to do so, you must release identification with
the past, release identification with the material
garments you wear, and accept the creative definition
that Life gives to you in this present moment.


What doyou call Satan? His body is the past, his breath, the
future. Energized by your past-oriented guilt and your
future-oriented fear, he follows you around like some vast
cosmic shadow. He casts his nets of fear on the waters of
your awareness, then draws them with ropes of reason,
back into a guilt-ridden past.


For the sake of illustration, your presence could be
compared to an inflatable membrane, designed to be filled to
the full with the energy and power of Life. Like two enormous
rips in the side, guilt and fear allow the precious
life-substance to escape, leaving you withered, ineffectual
and short-lived, all the' while, using your own life
substance to energize everything that you fear.


It is easy to reverse the situation. Let yourself die to
the past and wake up in the present moment. Why should
you hesitate? Are your past experiences really comprehensive
enough to provide a basis for understanding
everything you encounter in the present? Do they truly
deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?
How attentive were you to all the factors that were present
in the moment of their occurrence? If you are preoccupied
with "experience", how attentive will you be to
what is occurring in the moment? Where is your attention
now?"

For This quote and The videos and white crow black deers transcription....thanks....

[ljwheat]

Posted by Ba-ba-Ra (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

Firstly, don't confuse the message with the messenger. If it's good information, that's the important thing.

Secondly, to make a vague negative inference or judgment about someone, is IMO simply lacking in integrity.

Thirdly, Chopra never claims he is a saint. In fact he states in the video that we all have both positive and negative aspects of self and that to be real, we should embrace both.

Like a rock in the stream, or a boat ridding above it. Even better to remember one place as a drop of water in the stream. When in Rome, or urinating on a electric fence, nothing will wake you up quicker than stepping on a land mine. Leaning with the wind you never fall down. I ate all the tomato’s on a sandwich for lunch --- sorry. John xxx LOL

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ljwheat (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
I'm bumping this as my way of saying thanks, ljwheat.

Your commitment to assist everyone to awaken is amazing.

Just how do you manage to find these vids? I think you've got special powers that allow you access to the YouTube matrix.

To answer your question, I’ve always thought everyone thought about stuff, learned stuff, like I do, so never had to much to say, thinking well they already know this and left it at that. Everything in life I’ve come in contact with, I’ve entered that subject, topic, teaching, or documentary, class, like entering a room I record everything that’s in that room like a sponge, before leaving out the other end marked “EXIT” as a walking talking encyclopedia, taking all that data piecing it all together and throwing out what doesn’t fit has been a life long quest, similar to David Wilcock with out the notoriety or egoic fame people have layered on him over the year’s. mastering anything I come in contact with storing the knowledge and moving on to the next magazine in life. I the really love analogies as the glue that holds and validates all the connectedness that surrounds us all.

And most of it is in plain sight, the ability to look behind the Curtin, or back engineer everything I look at came very early in my life, self taught like Edison’s 2,000 battery’s before he came across 2,001-- that worked. And said when asked what it felt like to have so many failures. No NO, “now” I know how to make 2,000 battery’s that don’t work. That knowledge is priceless.

Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together. We know how 2,000 society’s don’t work, and like Edison we are searching for that one society that fits.

OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

All of us have this part to play we must choose to be a witness, juror, or victim. If we are not part of the cure, then we are part of the problem. All I can tell you is before Avalon I was a silent professional student, into anything I didn’t know. Still am, but now just voice erus with a big grinn. John xxx

Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together.

Once one begins to experience hidden likeness is all things, one’s load lightens.

OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

I agree. One gets no points for going beyond what is “taught”. School administrators just want you to regurgitate back the same information presented by the professors. Sigh...leaving no room for the creative and imaginative individuals.

Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

You’ve been an attentive juror that shines truth in this public court. Because of your sharing, I for one find myself hitting the refresh and delete buttons. I’m tossing out what’s no longer needed; opening for all possibility.

My thanks, again, for sharing of yourself, your knowledge, and your wisdoms, John XXX.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

"... but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

I'm being judgy, now... but...Fred, Fred, Fred...is this from personal experience that you know, "but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals." Are you in relationship with him 24/7? If so, can you introduce me to him?

For me, everyone deserves a pass if they're invested in assisting humanity. If I come away with at least one Ah-Ah!, then I've gotten my time and energies worth. In Deepak Chopra's case, up until 2000, I had purchased every book and many tapes and DVDs.

Today, I see with different eyes, in part because of his ability to take challenging topics and put them in simple language for the lay person. I walk away enriched. And that's priceless.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[RunningDeer]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

"... but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

I'm being judgy, now... but...Fred, Fred, Fred...is this from personal experience that you know, "but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals." Are you in relationship with him 24/7? If so, can you introduce me to him?

For me, everyone deserves a pass if they're invested in assisting humanity. If I come away with at least one Ah-Ah!, then I've gotten my time and energies worth. In Deepak Chopra's case, up until 2000, I had purchased every book and many tapes and DVDs.

Today, I see with different eyes, in part because of his ability to take challenging topics and put them in simple language for the lay person. I walk away enriched. And that's priceless.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

UPDATE: Hello, Fred. Man I just got caught up. I'm behind in reading these posts because i was watching "The Way of the Wizard" vid by Chopra. I didn't know others had responded.

But while I've got you here, can you introduce me to him?

[ljwheat]

Here is an update video for those who have e-mail tracking. added this video to the OP also. John

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WaYcXsGBaL0

[Fred Steeves]

Hi there, true I shouldn't have commented the way I did on Deepak yesterday, without any reasons given for the way I feel. Mainly it's the hypocricy I've noticed in his war opinions. He's a somewhat regular on MSNBC's "Morning Joe", that's co-hosted by Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter Mika, and never missed a chance to rail against Bush's war on terror, and how dispicable it was.

I've not heard a peep from him about that war now on steroids under Obama, he mainly just comes on to chat philosophy, and plug his latest book. I personally find that thoroughly discrediting, especially for one who has the ears of so many people as a wise, sagely figure. Not to mention that it would seem he buys the 9/11 story hook, line and sinker.

So I did a bit of Googling, and came up with two different articles he wrote for The Huffington Post. The first during the Bush years, the second just last year under Obama. Not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to show that I was not baselessly spewing hot air.

So here they are:



"Polls show that more than half of Americans are against the Iraqi war, but a shift in public sentiment hasn't brought us any closer to achieving peace. Nor would we be any closer if all our troops came home tomorrow. The threat of terrorism still calls for a response, and we haven't found one. The American public accepted a "war on terror" as the justified response to 9/11. Our motivation was a mixture of revenge, fear, national pride, and the time-honored habit of meeting violence with violence.

So where are we now? Still afraid, still unsafe, still without revenge, still losing pride every day in the eyes of other nations, and still inflicting violence without purpose. Terrorism in Northern Ireland wasn't ended by the use of British military force. It was ended by a combination of negotiation, public fatigue, international pressure, and moral force. Certainly it was necessary to forcefully counter IRA terrorist acts and to imprison those who committed acts of terror. But without a peace movement, success is impossible in these situations."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak...n_b_10259.html


"If you suppose that the average citizen remembers that the right wing are the very ones who got us into this forlorn tangle of wars abroad, financial collapse, out-of-control spending, and massive bonuses for the rich, you have not felt the power that fear exerts. Since 9/11, playing upon fear has been wildly successful for the right wing -- it re-elected a catastrophic president -- and now outrage has been added to the mix thanks to the romping recklessness of Wall Street, which paid not the slightest penalty for bringing on the recession."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak..._b_900666.html

[RunningDeer]

Thanks Fred,

There’s about a five year spread between these articles and I don’t know how many others were written. But there comes a point in time when you ask yourself if it’s all been said, do you keep on saying it? Or is it time for another approach?

Deepak Chopra may use his air time to promote his latest book as a way to make contact with greater numbers and effect change. There’s only “X” amount of time, so you “pick ya battles”. Chopra may see that it’s more important to assist in the awakening spirit than to spend time and energy to discredit the old system. He may understand that people are saturated. It’s more important for people expend their energy on helpful ideas and hopeful possibilities so they can get down to the business of inner work.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Talk about synchronicity... I just finished posting this and went to this vid. Fred, you may want to go to the 5 - 9 minute mark. It'll fill in some blanks.

P.S. I suspect that ljwheat posted this for a specific reason.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WaYcXsGBaL0

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
Hi there, true I shouldn't have commented the way I did on Deepak yesterday, without any reasons given for the way I feel. Mainly it's the hypocricy I've noticed in his war opinions. He's a somewhat regular on MSNBC's "Morning Joe", that's co-hosted by Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter Mika, and never missed a chance to rail against Bush's war on terror, and how dispicable it was.

I've not heard a peep from him about that war now on steroids under Obama, he mainly just comes on to chat philosophy, and plug his latest book. I personally find that thoroughly discrediting, especially for one who has the ears of so many people as a wise, sagely figure. Not to mention that it would seem he buys the 9/11 story hook, line and sinker.

So I did a bit of Googling, and came up with two different articles he wrote for The Huffington Post. The first during the Bush years, the second just last year under Obama. Not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to show that I was not baselessly spewing hot air.

So here they are:



"Polls show that more than half of Americans are against the Iraqi war, but a shift in public sentiment hasn't brought us any closer to achieving peace. Nor would we be any closer if all our troops came home tomorrow. The threat of terrorism still calls for a response, and we haven't found one. The American public accepted a "war on terror" as the justified response to 9/11. Our motivation was a mixture of revenge, fear, national pride, and the time-honored habit of meeting violence with violence.

So where are we now? Still afraid, still unsafe, still without revenge, still losing pride every day in the eyes of other nations, and still inflicting violence without purpose. Terrorism in Northern Ireland wasn't ended by the use of British military force. It was ended by a combination of negotiation, public fatigue, international pressure, and moral force. Certainly it was necessary to forcefully counter IRA terrorist acts and to imprison those who committed acts of terror. But without a peace movement, success is impossible in these situations."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak...n_b_10259.html


"If you suppose that the average citizen remembers that the right wing are the very ones who got us into this forlorn tangle of wars abroad, financial collapse, out-of-control spending, and massive bonuses for the rich, you have not felt the power that fear exerts. Since 9/11, playing upon fear has been wildly successful for the right wing -- it re-elected a catastrophic president -- and now outrage has been added to the mix thanks to the romping recklessness of Wall Street, which paid not the slightest penalty for bringing on the recession."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak..._b_900666.html

[ljwheat]

This tread is not about fruit that may have set in a pretty display on the shelf for all to see when it was freshly picked still holding all its color and luster. Its about the essence of the fruit-- ie. The bleepin seeds they never rot now do they,--- they may dry out, but if planted in fertile ground brings forth new growth, stronger tree’s greater abundance of fruit.

I prefer not to load every one into a bus, to take a field trip to the city land fill were all the spoiled fruit wind up. Rather harvest the seeds before throwing out the baby with the bath water.

No matter how hard you try to talk about negativity and judgment, trying to washing it in all the sensibility or reason, or I was only trying to spin dry it for you. It still comes out as messy as when it went in.

When a train derails with special cargo, you don’t scrap the train and the cargo do you? Negativity in any package big or small in any language or reasoning you want to paint over the rust or sugar coat it is still negativity, when you try to use a justifier, its like turning a war plain in to a stealth bomber, it will still attack the target and kill the seed that could have been planted.

An object or idea in motion tends to stay in motion. Be very careful in the words that leave your mouth, you can't get them back and they will hit there target. We live in dualistic everything, and words are either positive or negative like night and day trying to shine a light in the dark dose not make it day time. Basic’s, all just basic’s, should I as a human fall off the wagon, please help me back on board, I would not like to be left or shot on the side of the road either. Just my two cents. Lets get back on the wagon this thread with the cargo it was carrying to market. There is no space for negativity in the fifth Dimension and above shall we practice this now, before we get there?

If we are not part of the cure then we are still part of the problem are we not? John

[RunningDeer]

Hello ljwheat,

Great post above...

This grasshopper is now re-focused.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[ljwheat]

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)
Hello ljwheat,

Great post above...

This grasshopper is now re-focused.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Today wife and I went out to the store, to gather a few thing for a pool party later with our in-laws. So I started smiling at my wife and she smiled back and said what’s the smile for-- and I said I wanted to start practicing what I’ve been preaching. So she started smiling and not letting the smile fade to fare a way as we drove down the street when people glanced our way started smiling back, in the store people were more accepting to us than normal changing my inner awareness to the smile on my face changed how the world I was seeing in what I had in my heart. Very simple experiment to try but as an experiment its just that an experiment, finding ways to remind ourselves the power we hold in our hearts has more power than the negative world around us we are wittness too.

And again just now listening once again the OP video because of the sticky note I posted to my computer to vaccinate myself with this seed of knowledge first with this video before tackaling the day or this post. Turning positive and the mechanisms to carry it into a way of my life.

A way of keeping my eye on the brass ring as we go around and around with everything that we come in contact with. We have the choice to heat the air around us or cool it down at our finger tips. Taking any negative and changing its polarity to positive is as easy as flipping a switch, that switch or shift is in consciousness before we see it manifest out here. So smiling because its now my new option instead of a reaction is changing my world were ever I go, and that changes how people see my Mer-Ka-Ba energy field of the heart, my very own UFO. My choice's creates the fuel it runs on and how fare I can travel,-- as well as what I am viewing too. Think of negativity like you would traveling on a highway, all the negative’s are just the warning signs or detour signs keeping you safely on the path to your destination, like guard rails they have nothing to do with the wondrous, sights, sounds, and information along the way.

But letting the first negative sign control your foot-- stomping on the breaks-- and your froze in your tracks-- backing up traffic for mile’s is a sad thing indeed don’t you think?

Finding ways of staying on the road set before us now at the end of our collective journeys’ make this the best part of our trip together. And I am honored that I can share as much as I have in just a short stay at Avalon, thank you everyone here and the guest that visit us here, thank you I have gained so much in giving rather than to sit back and take. You all are very special to me. John

[Delight]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
seeds .....never rot now do they,--- they may dry out, but if planted in fertile ground brings forth new growth, stronger tree’s greater abundance of fruit.........
An object or idea in motion tends to stay in motion. Be very careful in the words that leave your mouth, you can't get them back and they will hit there target. We live in dualistic everything, and words are either positive or negative like night and day trying to shine a light in the dark dose not make it day time. Basic’s, all just basic’s, should I as a human fall off the wagon, please help me back on board, I would not like to be left or shot on the side of the road either. Just my two cents. Lets get back on the wagon this thread with the cargo it was carrying to market. There is no space for negativity in the fifth Dimension and above shall we practice this now, before we get there?

If we are not part of the cure then we are still part of the problem are we not? John

This is a very well stated post. I like listening to others words. The thing about words and ideas as seeds is that we are the ground for seeds. We take in information and if it does not germinate, the information is like a seed on dry earth. This is either wonderful when the seed is of a plant we do not want to grow or not so wonderful if the plant is desired. Deepak may speak but if he has not germinated the seeds he wants to grow, he will fail to be fertile ground in his own desired life stream.

Nature spills out bilions upon billions of seeds and there are many many ideas and words. But what most of us want is something like a fruit of experience. Does reading and listening to the media really satisfy?

How to be the ground for the kind of seeds (of ideas) that we want to grow? How to stop growing seeds we don not value? This is my question.

My only answer for this one at the moment for me is to compost my soil by transmuting, to aereate by seeking inspiration, to water by bathing in feeling, to go out under the sun but also spend time in shade.

The metaphor of ground is also the absolute reality. But when ideas are planted in my ground, I also am the plant itself and the gardener.

This is not anyone dirty work or plantation, just my own and the fruits I will harvest are also my fruits only. This to me is what we are asked to be amnesic about...having forgotten we are made to believe that a "virtual" garden is sufficient or we can just watch someone else growing one. But I am also sure that one can start on the increased fertility planting a new field any time and there is no fault in lying fallow either.....

GURUs get a lot of accolades and a lot of condemnation too vacillating like the weather. My sense of compassion is for the person in the gee you are you suit. May it be that Deepak and all spokes persons like me and you who reads this one statement have the field of his and her own dreams sprout. Maggie

P>S> I think we fertile up our ground and till and grow and harvest until we create the perfect seed that will go off into the Universe. Then we start over.

[ljwheat]

GURUs get a lot of accolades and a lot of condemnation too vacillating like the weather. My sense of compassion is for the person in the gee you are you suit. May it be that Deepak and all spokes persons like me and you who reads this one statement have the field of his and her own dreams sprout. Maggie

P>S> I think we fertile up our ground and till and grow and harvest until we create the perfect seed that will go off into the Universe. Then we start over.

Thank you Maggie, I to feel the power and energy realized-- when my heart not my brain unlocks the wisdom that only can be pointed at, for no words exist in this realm that the brain can rap its thoughts around -- only the wisdom of the heart space has that ability. The brain can only look at feelings, or trigger a feelings, the heart is the feeler the brain is dead gray matter with no feeling. Understanding a feeling is not Feeling a feeling. We try to give the brain the credit, but if you turn in your brain to look at feelings its never their, and feeling are with out words present--- authored by the heart.

A sad story is pointing at something the heart needs to look at then the heart takes over and tiers roll. The words that caused the heart (silent watcher ) to take notice are not emotion. Emotion is the language of the silent watcher. All the teachers, truth Sayers, prophets, trying to bring this awareness to the masses have been silenced or removed. Books burned, wars Barry us in consumerism, and population reduction, and control. All with the brain ego driven beast.

Listening from the heart, hearing from the heart, speaking from the heart, This listening speaking, understanding, takes the same heart in the receiving heart of this language from the heart silent watcher lets you know threw this silent language of feelings.

Hallmark cards, this word processor, our brains are just words. Neutral till the heart adds feeling and that’s the power of miracles and there source, not the brain. So a seed planted in the brain with out the power of the heart is the anti- words, anti- idea’s, anti- growth. Keeping us away from this self empowerment is the ultimate jail programming there trying to keep all of humanity locked into. Thank you Maggie. John

[Carmen]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)
No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

You don't have to like it ;-) Thanks for your personal opinion Fred. I personally try not judge messengers, but rather take their message and research it, compare it, analyze it, until it is either mine, or discarded. Try not to shoot the messenger. ;-)


While I'm here:

I found this little, very metaphorical (don't try to understand this literally, lol) tidbit on "the present moment ..." (it was actually in my windows clipboard and I accidently hit the paste button while responding to Fred ... I don't believe in accidents that much so here it is!)

"Can you see more clearly now why it is essential in
these closing years of the cycle to release your interpretations?
They belong to the past. And Life exists eternally
in the present. You were intended to share in this eternal
Life. But to do so, you must release identification with
the past, release identification with the material
garments you wear, and accept the creative definition
that Life gives to you in this present moment.


What doyou call Satan? His body is the past, his breath, the
future. Energized by your past-oriented guilt and your
future-oriented fear, he follows you around like some vast
cosmic shadow. He casts his nets of fear on the waters of
your awareness, then draws them with ropes of reason,
back into a guilt-ridden past.


For the sake of illustration, your presence could be
compared to an inflatable membrane, designed to be filled to
the full with the energy and power of Life. Like two enormous
rips in the side, guilt and fear allow the precious
life-substance to escape, leaving you withered, ineffectual
and short-lived, all the' while, using your own life
substance to energize everything that you fear.


It is easy to reverse the situation. Let yourself die to
the past and wake up in the present moment. Why should
you hesitate? Are your past experiences really comprehensive
enough to provide a basis for understanding
everything you encounter in the present? Do they truly
deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?
How attentive were you to all the factors that were present
in the moment of their occurrence? If you are preoccupied
with "experience", how attentive will you be to
what is occurring in the moment? Where is your attention
now?"

I adore Ken Carey's books! I read and re-read them often. A very timely quote. Thanks!

Fred, what causes you to say that about Chopra?!

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by Carmen (here)

Fred, what causes you to say that about Chopra?!

Hi Carmen, you must have missed my follow up post, #29. I used to read his books, and he was one of the early influences on my spiritual journey. But like most of those teachers, as the journey becomes more and more refined, he had to be chunked overboard. The Deepak Chopra that I see on MSNBC is nothing but a book hawker, and a shameless defender of every criminal act Obama commits for the puppet masters.

If you guys can overlook the fact that he's snugly in a well feathered bed of treasonous war criminals, then have at it. If this is considered to be spreading negativity, so be it, I call em like I see em.

I truly have compassion for what kind of situation the man must be tangled up in, and I promise to not disturb this thread again. Unless someone wishes to discuss this aspect anyway.

Cheers All,
Fred

[ljwheat]

Getting back to the basic's --- rebooting focus----

Supporting, Calibrating, evidence with John wheeler,“Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AQQHKh6fHrg

Knowing that what we are is already here, turning to see the silent watcher,-- watching me watch what I am. The answer is not in the mind. it’s the feeling of the heart that what is there-- me -- is the watcher. being watched. john

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zzB5DXopVs8

"WOW"
Deep, Really Deep. Behind the words we speak is----- you ------ the silent watcher.

“Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John

[ljwheat]

Happy Fathers day everyone, john

[RunningDeer]

Posted by ljwheat (here)
Happy Fathers day everyone, john

Happy Father's Day, John and All.