Why is too much salt bad for you?

[UnrealDreams]

The number one answer to the question(why is salt bad for you?) is probably because it causes high blood pressure. This is true. Too much sodium(salt) in the diet will cause high blood pressure. But there are other, more urgent reasons why you should limit your salt intake.

The following is what I have learned regarding sodium(salt) from the fantastic book by Charlotte Gerson titled "Healing The Gerson Way", in my own words.

The Enzyme System.
Everything that happens in the body requires enzyme activity, from breathing to digesting foods, and hundreds of other functions. The body must produce it's own enzymes since it can't use enzymes found in foods(to convert to enzymes in the body). The body(specifically the organs) therefore produces it's own enzymes, using specific minerals as catalysts.
Almost all enzymes require potassium as a catalyst, while sodium is an enzyme inhibitor. 1

Too much sodium in the diet creates a mineral imbalance. Sodium and potassium are the two main minerals involved in this imbalace. Dr. Max Gerson found the proper balance between potassium and sodium is 90% potassium to 10% sodium. The average western diet is proportionally higher in sodium than this standard.

The Role of Sodium in Cellular Damage
Freeman Widener Cope, MD, a mathemetician, physicist, and biophysicist wrote about cell damage in the 70's...."First the cell will lose potassium, second the cell will accept sodium, and third, the cell will swell with too much water(edema). When the cell has swollen with too much water, energy production is inhibited, along with protein synthesis and lipid(fat) metabolism. (Dr. Max) Gerson was able to manipulate tissue damage syndrome, which he recognised clinically in the 1920's, by his dietary management, eliminating sodium, supplementing a high potassium diet with additional potassium amendments, and finding a way to remove toxins from the body via the liver."



The implications are bad enough if you are a 'healthy' person on a diet that is too high in sodium. You may feel constantly drained of energy, because of the sodium induced edema, and the lack of proper enzyme function in breaking down the food you eat and combining it with oxygen to create energy.

If you are sick, especially with a disease such as cancer, excessive sodium is extremely dangerous. As Dr. Max Gerson found out while he was developing his therapy, excess sodium stimulates tumor growth in cancer patients. 2 You would think that, in the year 2012, doctors would be warning their patients, especially very sick patients, to eliminate excess salt from the diet. Sadly, this is not the case. More often than not, the doctors, ignorant of the role salt and diet plays in serious disease, offer up chemotherapy, toxic drugs, or simply send these patients home to die.

And as we can see by reviewing the words of Freeman Widener Cope, protein synthesis, and fat metabolism is also retarded by the cell edema caused by excess sodium. This is why the Gerson Therapy works so well for sick patients, especially those with tumors. The Gerson Therapy eliminates animal proteins and fats from the diet as well as excess sodium. By adding supplemental potassium to the diet and regular liver flushes, toxins are eliminated and cellular Tissue Damage Syndrome is reversed.

In a Nutshell-
-Enzymes are required for the body's organs to perform just about all of their functions.
-Potassium is an enzyme catalyst.
-Sodium is an enzyme inhibitor.
-Decreased enzyme activity is one of the major problems with sick people.
-Excess sodium is implicated in cellular damage, specifically, Tissue Damage Syndrome.
-Excess potassium is beneficial, and is a catalyst to proper enzyme development and cellular growth.
-Excess sodium stimulates tumor growth in cancer patients.

1- Dixon and Webb, 'enzymes'
2- Max Gerson, 'A Cancer Therapy; Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer by Diet Therapy: A Summary of Thirty Years of Clinical Experimentation'

There are many aspects to the Gerson Therapy. Excess sodium is only one of the many issues addressed by the use of the therapy. If you choose to learn more please visit Gerson.org

Wishing love, peace and well being to all-

[eileenrose]

I remote view salt all the time in my system. (not sea salt). It is stuck in there. And 'seeing' it begins the process of releasing it (as a toxic substance).

so...toxic. And as I eliminate it, I feel a positive release feeling (as if it was aluminum, as an example).

helps?

[UnrealDreams]

Posted by eileenrose (here)
I remote view salt all the time in my system. (not sea salt). It is stuck in there. And 'seeing' it begins the process of releasing it (as a toxic substance).

so...toxic. And as I eliminate it, I feel a positive release feeling (as if it was aluminum, as an example).

helps?

You are right. It does get "stuck" in your cells, causing many issues. Another method of mitigating the effects of salt are to take potassium supplements, and the obvious, limiting salt in the diet..

[The Truth Is In There]

too much of anything is bad for you, and too little of anything important is equally bad, like salt, for instance. if you consume too little salt you'll eventually have to eat "the gerson way", meaning only veggie and fruit juices and cod liver oil because you'll be unable to properly digest anything but liquid food, most notably protein, due to lack of stomach acid. after all, the chloride in there has to come from somewhere.

apart from that, the sodium-potassium pump works only if both sodium and potassium are available in sufficient amounts, and excess potassium is equally bad. a healthy body is self regulating, any excess (provided it doesn't exceed reasonable amounts) will just be removed from the body via the kidneys. i'm not saying that table salt is good for you, it definitely isn't, but himalaya or sea salt is a totally different matter.

healthy animals (and healthy humans) sense what their bodies need (that's not food cravings i'm talking about) and will try to provide it. many animals will lick salt occasionally when given the chance. why would they do that if it was bad for the body?

[Watching from Cyprus]

Just a comment on sodium increases the acid in the stomach !!! Sodium Bicarbonate which is also a salt, reduces the acid in the stomach and KILLS CANCER. Stop listening to the idiot medical doctors taught only lies in the universities established by JP Morgan with his false books.

FACT: CHOLESTEROL IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BODY THAT MEASURED IN EEGs EVERY GROWN UP SHALL HAVE 15 SOFT EGGS PER DAY. CHOLESTEROL IS THE FOOD FOR THE BRAIN (THEY DONT WANT YOU TO WAKE UP SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT)
FACT: TABLE SALT IS 1/3 SALT, 1/3 SAND, 1/3 GLASS. THE GLASS CUTS YOUR VEINS INSIDE. CHOLESTEROL COMES TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE OVER AND OVER WHICH NARROWS THE PASS-WAY FOR THE BLOOD AND THEIR COMES THE DANGER. SO PLENTY OF WATER AND 1.5 TSP OF SEA SALT EVERY DAY PLUS A BUNCH OF EGGS IS GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IT EFFECTS YOUR BRAIN.. HE HE . .

By the way our body works on electricity, and electricity cannot move around without salt. All is logic, but not if you dont have any sense left by listening to rubbish. Eat eggs and feel Eggcellent ;-)

Dont be fooled by tricksters .

[Anchor]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
due to lack of stomach acid. after all, the chloride in there has to come from somewhere.

Perhaps Potassium Chloride would be a good start.

http://newsburglar.com/2008/11/13/po...lood-pressure/

http://www.foodforlife.fi/english/fi...ions/less-salt

http://www.finetro.gr/en.html

[UnrealDreams]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
too much of anything is bad for you, and too little of anything important is equally bad, like salt, for instance. if you consume too little salt you'll eventually have to eat "the gerson way", meaning only veggie and fruit juices and cod liver oil because you'll be unable to properly digest anything but liquid food, most notably protein, due to lack of stomach acid. after all, the chloride in there has to come from somewhere.

That is an interesting concept. Not enough salt in the diet will inhibit stomach acids? Where is the literature on this concept? I'd like to know more.
Gerson patients have no trouble digesting whole foods, despite a lack of added salt in their diets. The Gerson diet is not just a juicing diet, and cod liver oil is not a part of the Gerson Therapy. Organic flaxseed oil is the only oil found by Gerson to not stimulate tumor growth in cancer patients.

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
apart from that, the sodium-potassium pump works only if both sodium and potassium are available in sufficient amounts, and excess potassium is equally bad. a healthy body is self regulating, any excess (provided it doesn't exceed reasonable amounts) will just be removed from the body via the kidneys. i'm not saying that table salt is good for you, it definitely isn't, but himalaya or sea salt is a totally different matter.

The subject here is excessive salt in the diet, not sure if you caught that. Gerson patients have absolutely no issues with the sodium potassium pump and their diet consists of mostly fruits and vegetables without any added salt. in fact, energy levels of Gerson patients go up after starting the program. Not a concern.
As far as the kidneys go, excessive salt, or other toxins in the kidneys will distrupt the delicate filter system through inflammation, causing disease. We are talking about too much salt here.
As far as Himalaya, or sea salt being good for you, I would disagree 100%. If you eat natural foods, your body will have all the salt(sodium) it needs to function properly.
As far as excess potassium. It is extremely rare, even in Gerson patients who eat a very high potassium diet. High K levels in the blood are most likely to occur in people with burns, crushing injuries, diabetic ketoacidosis, in myocardial infarction, patients with addison's disease, or from renal failure, which causes reduced sodium excretion.

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
healthy animals (and healthy humans) sense what their bodies need (that's not food cravings i'm talking about) and will try to provide it. many animals will lick salt occasionally when given the chance. why would they do that if it was bad for the body?

Animals will lick a lot of things....that doesn't mean they know exactly what is good for them, and what is not good for them. Animals get very little salt in their diets. I'm sure licking those salty areas may be quite helpful!!

[UnrealDreams]

For those with concerns about too little salt in the diet, it is extremely rare. Gerson patients have regular serum sodium lab tests to indicate sodium levels and Gerson has never had this issue with any patients even on the low salt, high potassium Gerson Therapy.

This therapy has been in effect since the 1950's.

I understand that if you love salt you will find some supporting evidence as to why you should keep taking it.

[dAkapacity]

I remember a doc (does anybody know his name?) disproving that an intake of too much salt results in high cholesterol levels...

There's a difference between sea salts and table salt. Salt and other natural minerals are actually very important for the body. The problem is that we mainly consume table salts, which is mined, chemically processed (devoid of minerals) and added with silicoaluminate (which are basically very thin & sharp sandparticles). It makes it a whole lot cheaper, but wreaks havoc on your system. Your body doesn't benefit from the minerals, needs to get rid of the chemicals and, most importantly, suffers from the silicoaluminate wich with its sharp knife-like structure damages the arteries. Your cholesterol rises as a result of your body working overtime repairing these violent cuts & pushing these chemicals (as far as possible) out.

[Tane Mahuta]

Sea Salt is good for you...

Highly Refined is not...

http://healthcare8.com/salty_experience.html

Here's a link stating some facts about Sea Salt

http://events.mercurynews.com/campbe...a-salt-therapy

TM

[conk]

Real salt does NOT raise blood pressure. And the evidence for processed table salt (which is all they ever study) raising it is weak as well.

If you experience nausea or stomach discomfort, take a half teaspoon of real sea salt with a big glass of water and BINGO, nausea gone. The comment above about sodium and electrical current is spot on.

These arguments against anything or whatever are based on inadequate data. Just like all the zillions of studies showing how harmful meat is. Well, duh, if you feed the cows chicken sh*t and worthless corn (you will NEVER see a cow munching on a corn stalk) then you can expect the meat to be inferior and a negative factor in pursuit of a healthful state. Likewise, these opinions on salt are based on what most people consume, refined tablet salt. Input crap, crap comes out.

Eat a moderate amount of true salt and enjoy the taste and healthful benefits! Ignore anything the media says and do your own diligent analysis.

That said, the Gerson information overall is very worthwhile.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Here you go amigo :-) https://youtube.com/watch?v=DgbdN...layer_embedded

[Arrowwind]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
too much of anything is bad for you, and too little of anything important is equally bad, like salt, for instance. if you consume too little salt you'll eventually have to eat "the gerson way", meaning only veggie and fruit juices and cod liver oil because you'll be unable to properly digest anything but liquid food, most notably protein, due to lack of stomach acid. after all, the chloride in there has to come from somewhere.

apart from that, the sodium-potassium pump works only if both sodium and potassium are available in sufficient amounts, and excess potassium is equally bad. a healthy body is self regulating, any excess (provided it doesn't exceed reasonable amounts) will just be removed from the body via the kidneys. i'm not saying that table salt is good for you, it definitely isn't, but himalaya or sea salt is a totally different matter.

healthy animals (and healthy humans) sense what their bodies need (that's not food cravings i'm talking about) and will try to provide it. many animals will lick salt occasionally when given the chance. why would they do that if it was bad for the body?

yes, way back when I ate just about the gerson way.. and in the end I could not digest anything else. It took a while to turn my protien digestive system back on. Sodium is requried and one of the best ways to get it is in salt. but it can be overdone. Salt retains fluids in the body, hence the high blood pressure, but salt in and of itself is not the main cause of most cases of highblood pressure. Eleminating salt is just a tactic to help reduce the pressure, not eliminate the disease process. It can make the symptoms of the disease process worse for some people.
Potassium is essential for balance. .. always in your eating.. seek balance of all the long held traditional foods. Its the excesses that can kill us.

[sunnyrap]

My studies indicate that too much sodium chloride salt (aluminum based) is not good for you. Sea salt or salt that contains a broad spectrum of minerals is what the body needs and is not injurious in appropriate balance. A lot of the nutritionists I've followed think minerals are more important to the body than vitamins... From Mike Ranger, Health Ranger (many years health news reporter):

(NaturalNews) For years we've been told to lower our salt intake for our health. Individuals at risk for heart attack are especially admonished to drop their salt intake as low as possible. As it turns out, this seemingly harmless recommendation is actually putting us at a higher risk for conditions like heart disease and stroke. Although salt has been construed as a vial substance responsible for ruining our heart health, new research says too little salt may be just as harmful as too much.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034528_sa...#ixzz1yGK3Os8w


Salt and Sodium - Question the concerns of the medical establishment
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 by: Paul Fassa



Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032490_so...#ixzz1yGKO3jFR

[Ceedub]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)
too much of anything is bad for you, and too little of anything important is equally bad, like salt, for instance. if you consume too little salt you'll eventually have to eat "the gerson way", meaning only veggie and fruit juices and cod liver oil because you'll be unable to properly digest anything but liquid food, most notably protein, due to lack of stomach acid. after all, the chloride in there has to come from somewhere.

apart from that, the sodium-potassium pump works only if both sodium and potassium are available in sufficient amounts, and excess potassium is equally bad. a healthy body is self regulating, any excess (provided it doesn't exceed reasonable amounts) will just be removed from the body via the kidneys. i'm not saying that table salt is good for you, it definitely isn't, but himalaya or sea salt is a totally different matter.

healthy animals (and healthy humans) sense what their bodies need (that's not food cravings i'm talking about) and will try to provide it. many animals will lick salt occasionally when given the chance. why would they do that if it was bad for the body?

Yes, table salt is poison. Since I tried Celtic sea salts I wont eat regular salt. I can taste the poison. The sea salt is delicious and I can't resist putting a grain in my mouth when I use it. Also if I use too much the food doesn't taste oversalted.

It's definetly not healthy to have too little salt. The potasium/soduim interactions are interesting to consider. I have read some good info exposing the mainstream condemnation of salt though. I guess it's the balance again and not eating things made in chemical plants and fortified with government mandated ingredients.

Also protects from astral nerdowells, so it's got that going for it.

[Ceedub]

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Just a comment on sodium increases the acid in the stomach !!! Sodium Bicarbonate which is also a salt, reduces the acid in the stomach and KILLS CANCER. Stop listening to the idiot medical doctors taught only lies in the universities established by JP Morgan with his false books.

FACT: CHOLESTEROL IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BODY THAT MEASURED IN EEGs EVERY GROWN UP SHALL HAVE 15 SOFT EGGS PER DAY. CHOLESTEROL IS THE FOOD FOR THE BRAIN (THEY DONT WANT YOU TO WAKE UP SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT)
FACT: TABLE SALT IS 1/3 SALT, 1/3 SAND, 1/3 GLASS. THE GLASS CUTS YOUR VEINS INSIDE. CHOLESTEROL COMES TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE OVER AND OVER WHICH NARROWS THE PASS-WAY FOR THE BLOOD AND THEIR COMES THE DANGER. SO PLENTY OF WATER AND 1.5 TSP OF SEA SALT EVERY DAY PLUS A BUNCH OF EGGS IS GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IT EFFECTS YOUR BRAIN.. HE HE . .

By the way our body works on electricity, and electricity cannot move around without salt. All is logic, but not if you dont have any sense left by listening to rubbish. Eat eggs and feel Eggcellent ;-)

Dont be fooled by tricksters .

I'm with you on the cholesterol. Sand and glass sounds just like what they would do, and I get the scaring in the arteries, but table salt disolves in water. What gives??

[D-Day]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...alt#post473006

[Watching from Cyprus]

Posted by Ceedub (here)

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Just a comment on sodium increases the acid in the stomach !!! Sodium Bicarbonate which is also a salt, reduces the acid in the stomach and KILLS CANCER. Stop listening to the idiot medical doctors taught only lies in the universities established by JP Morgan with his false books.

FACT: CHOLESTEROL IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BODY THAT MEASURED IN EEGs EVERY GROWN UP SHALL HAVE 15 SOFT EGGS PER DAY. CHOLESTEROL IS THE FOOD FOR THE BRAIN (THEY DONT WANT YOU TO WAKE UP SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT)
FACT: TABLE SALT IS 1/3 SALT, 1/3 SAND, 1/3 GLASS. THE GLASS CUTS YOUR VEINS INSIDE. CHOLESTEROL COMES TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE OVER AND OVER WHICH NARROWS THE PASS-WAY FOR THE BLOOD AND THEIR COMES THE DANGER. SO PLENTY OF WATER AND 1.5 TSP OF SEA SALT EVERY DAY PLUS A BUNCH OF EGGS IS GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IT EFFECTS YOUR BRAIN.. HE HE . .

By the way our body works on electricity, and electricity cannot move around without salt. All is logic, but not if you dont have any sense left by listening to rubbish. Eat eggs and feel Eggcellent ;-)

Dont be fooled by tricksters .

I'm with you on the cholesterol. Sand and glass sounds just like what they would do, and I get the scaring in the arteries, but table salt disolves in water. What gives??

The sand/glass particles are very small although razor sharp, damaging the arteries. Watch this video

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DgbdN...layer_embedded

Thank you for your comments. IN TRUTH HONESTY AND LOVE, Peter

[Alie]

Forgive me if you mentioned this ... table salt is NOT "salt" but a chemical combination of sodium and chlorine; whereas natural salt is "salt". I use Himalayan salt because it has trace minerals in it.

[Ceedub]

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)

Posted by Ceedub (here)

Posted by Watching from Cyprus (here)
Just a comment on sodium increases the acid in the stomach !!! Sodium Bicarbonate which is also a salt, reduces the acid in the stomach and KILLS CANCER. Stop listening to the idiot medical doctors taught only lies in the universities established by JP Morgan with his false books.

FACT: CHOLESTEROL IS SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR BODY THAT MEASURED IN EEGs EVERY GROWN UP SHALL HAVE 15 SOFT EGGS PER DAY. CHOLESTEROL IS THE FOOD FOR THE BRAIN (THEY DONT WANT YOU TO WAKE UP SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT)
FACT: TABLE SALT IS 1/3 SALT, 1/3 SAND, 1/3 GLASS. THE GLASS CUTS YOUR VEINS INSIDE. CHOLESTEROL COMES TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE OVER AND OVER WHICH NARROWS THE PASS-WAY FOR THE BLOOD AND THEIR COMES THE DANGER. SO PLENTY OF WATER AND 1.5 TSP OF SEA SALT EVERY DAY PLUS A BUNCH OF EGGS IS GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU WILL SEE WHO IT EFFECTS YOUR BRAIN.. HE HE . .

By the way our body works on electricity, and electricity cannot move around without salt. All is logic, but not if you dont have any sense left by listening to rubbish. Eat eggs and feel Eggcellent ;-)

Dont be fooled by tricksters .

I'm with you on the cholesterol. Sand and glass sounds just like what they would do, and I get the scaring in the arteries, but table salt disolves in water. What gives??

The sand/glass particles are very small although razor sharp, damaging the arteries. Watch this video

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DgbdN...layer_embedded

Thank you for your comments. IN TRUTH HONESTY AND LOVE, Peter

That video is great thank you, lots of good stuff there beyond just salt. He did indeed say 1/3 sand and 1/3 glass. He must mean Sodium aluminosilicate the anti-caking agent, as per dakapacity. If so, "sand and glass" is not exactly what it is although maybe he might describe it that way(?). Sand and glass is probably safer to eat.




It is kind of cool looking but I wouldn't put it in my mouth I guess.

I'm very interested in getting these facts straight. This is one of those "waking up the sheeple" issues it seems to me and I know people with cholesterol/bp issues that could use some waking up. I was thinking of an experiment to find out the quantity of insolubles in table salt. Measuring the difference in volume when table salt is disolved in water would tell you the volume of insolubles.

Then I guess it doesn't matter much how much there is or whether it's 2/3, that doesn't really prove anything although it's pretty shocking. There shouldn't be any insolubles in salt. The real key is the damage to the arteries. I looked for a nice electron microscope image hoping it would be obviously nasty to the eye but I didn't find any.

I think I'll still try the volumetric experiment for fun. I'll bet the neighbors have a cup I could borrow, I sure don't.

Gratitude, CW