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    No joke I was thinking the same thing! That guy didn't sound like he knew anything about being an attorney. We really should start a thread explaining to people that they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation, legally and how that was set up so they understand why we're in the current situation.
    Jurisdiction and or all laws/rules of law etc actually goes back to the Vatican depending on which angle you look at it and how you look at much of the language in all laws.legal rules...etc. It's quite deep and an extensive research/study
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    Just missed a few minutes of the show while I added someone to my "ignore" list...!
    Give it another couple of days, you'll probably end up having to put the entire forum membership on your ignore list.

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    No joke I was thinking the same thing! That guy didn't sound like he knew anything about being an attorney. We really should start a thread explaining to people that they are under the jurisdiction of the corporation, legally and how that was set up so they understand why we're in the current situation.
    Jurisdiction and or all laws/rules of law etc actually goes back to the Vatican depending on which angle you look at it and how you look at much of the language in all laws.legal rules...etc. It's quite deep and an extensive research/study
    It just really pissed me off though. The "bar" is just the fence at the front of the courtroom, yea, bull****. Of course that is also known as the bar, and once you cross it you are screwed. We're all underwater in Admiralty, presumed dead, lost at sea, and unable to speak. The certificate of manifest is handed to the harbormaster tribunal, and the goods are surrendered to the king.

    End of story. The rest of this crap about justice is the biggest load of BS ever sold to us.

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    Here's what you should know about an attorney.....now interestingly enough I posted this same link on another thread and now it doesn't work....hmmm, why is that??? Well lucky for you I have a full copy of what that link says. I'm going to post here, but please know that it came from this link below which may or may not work. I'm sure it was not appreciated that I posted such a thing on a forum with this type of viewing volume. I do not condone any violence towards attorney's and though when you read and understand this most likely it will tick you off, but you need to know and I ask that you refrain your anger. I find it hard to believe that attorney's aren't aware of this, could they really be that stupid? I don't think so! I know this is long and a little rough on the eyes, sure wish the link worked as it would be easier to read from it's original website. This explains why some of us feel that the attorney who called on Drake's show is full of it!

    http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_ju...ehind_bar.html

    Here's the thread where I originally posted. You might find my comments of interest, it's post #19
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...989#post497989


    Hiding Behind The BAR
    Why Attorneys Are Not Lawyers
    by Joe Blow

    In the U.S., they're collectively called everything from "attorney" to "lawyer" to "counselor." Are these terms truly equivalent, or has the identity of one been mistaken for another?
    What exactly is a "Licensed BAR Attorney?" A credential accompanies every legal paper produced by attorneys - along with a State BAR Certification number. The credential is issued by the boards of law examiners, the applicant having acquired a minimum competency in law. In most cases, the board is an independent, self-financing, separately incorporated group of law professionals, administered by the state bar association, a branch of the American Bar Association, functioning in an advisory capacity to the supreme court of each of the states. Simply stated, they are an advisory board of recommendation to the court. The accreditation number is issued by the state bar association, a professional dues paying union.
    As we are about to show you, an ‘attorney’ is not a ‘lawyer,’ yet the average American improperly interchanges these words as if they represent the same occupation, and the average American attorney unduly accepts the honor to be called "lawyer" when he is not.
    In order to discern the difference, and where we stand within the current court system, it’s necessary to examine the British origins of our U.S. courts and the terminology that has been established from the beginning. It's important to understand the proper lawful definitions for the various titles we now give these court related occupations.
    The legal profession in the U.S. is directly derived from the British system. Even the word "bar" is of British origin:
    BAR -- A particular portion of a court room. Named from the space enclosed by two bars or rails, one of which separated the judge's bench from the rest of the room; the other shut off both the bench and the area for lawyers engaged in trials from the space allotted to suitors, witnesses, and others. Such persons as appeared as speakers (advocates, or counsel) before the court, were said to be "called to the bar", that is, privileged so to appear, speak and otherwise serve in the presence of the judges as "barristers." The corresponding phrase in the United States is "admitted to the bar". - A Dictionary of Law (1893).
    From the definition of ‘BAR,’ the title and occupation of a "barrister" is derived:
    BARRISTER -- English law. A counselor admitted to plead at the bar. 2. Ouster barrister, is one who pleads ouster or without the bar. 3. Inner barrister, a sergeant or king's counsel who pleads within the bar. 4. Vacation barrister, a counselor newly called to the bar, who is to attend for several long vacations the exercise of the house. 5. Barristers are called apprentices, apprentitii ad legem, being looked upon as learners, and not qualified until they obtain the degree of sergeant. -- Edmund Plowden, the author of the Commentaries, a volume of elaborate reports in the reigns of Edward VI., Mary, Philip and Mary, and Elizabeth, describes himself as an apprentice of the common law. -- A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier (Revised Sixth Edition, 1856).
    BARRISTER, n. [from BAR.] A counselor, learned in the laws, qualified and admitted to pleas at the bar, and to take upon him the defense of clients; answering to the advocate or licentiate of other countries. Anciently, barristers were called, in England, apprentices of the law. Outer barristers are pleaders without the bar, to distinguish them from inner barristers, benchers or readers, who have been sometime admitted to pleas within the bar, as the king's counsel are. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    Overall, a barrister is one who has the privilege to plead at the courtroom bar separating the judicial from the non-judicial spectators. Currently, in U.S. courts, the inner bar between the bench (judge) and the outer bar no longer exists, and the outer bar separates the attorneys (not lawyers) from the spectator's gallery. This will be explained more as you read further. As with the word ‘BAR,’ each commonly used word describing the various court officers is derived directly from root words:
    1). From the word "solicit" is derived the name and occupation of a ‘solicitor’; one who solicits or petitions an action in a court.
    SOLICIT, v.t. [Latin - solicito] 1. To ask with some degree of earnestness; to make petition to; to apply to for obtaining something. This word implies earnestness in seeking ... 2. To ask for with some degree of earnestness; to seek by petition; as, to solicit an office; to solicit a favor. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    2). From the word "attorn" is derived the name and occupation of an ‘attorney;’ one who transfers or assigns property, rights, title and allegiance to the owner of the land.
    ATTORN v. ME. [Origin French. atorner, aturner >assign, appoint, f. a-torner turn v.] 1. v.t.Turn; change, transform; deck out. 2. v.tTurn over (goods, service, allegiance, etc.) to another; transfer, assign. 3. >v.i. Transfer one’s tenancy, or (arch.) homage or allegiance, to another; formally acknowledge such transfer. attorn tenant (to) Law formally transfer one’s tenancy to), make legal acknowledgement of tenancy ( to a new landlord) -- Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
    ATTORN, v.i. [Latin ad and torno.] In the feudal law, to turn, or transfer homage and service from one lord to another. This is the act of feudatories, vassels or tenants, upon the alienation of the estate. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    ATTORNMENT, n. The act of a feudatory, vassal or tenant, by which he consents, upon the alienation of an estate, to receive a new lord or superior, and transfers to him his homage and service. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    ATTORNMENT n. the transference of bailor status, tenancy, or (arch.) allegiance, service, etc., to another; formal acknowledgement of such transfer: lme. -- Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
    3). From the word advocate comes the meaning of the occupation by the same name; one who pleads or defends by argument in a court.
    ADVOCATE v.t. [Latin advocatus, from advoco, to call for, to plead for; of ad and voco, to call. See Vocal.] To plead in favor of; to defend by argument, before a tribunal; to support or vindicate. -- Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    4). From the word "counsel" is derived the name and occupation of a ‘counselor’ or ‘lawyer’; one who is learned in the law to give advice in a court of law;
    COUNSEL, v.t. [Latin. to consult; to ask, to assail.] 1. To give advice or deliberate opinion to another for the government of his conduct; to advise. - Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    LAWYER. A counselor; one learned in the law. -- A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier (Revised Sixth Edition, 1856).
    Although modern usage tends to group all these descriptive occupational words as the same, the fact is that they have different and distinctive meanings when used within the context of court activities:
    Solicitor -- one who petitions (initiates) for another in a court
    Counselor -- one who advises another concerning a court matter
    Lawyer -- [see counselor] learned in the law to advise in a court
    Barrister -- one who is privileged to plead at the bar
    Advocate -- one who pleads within the bar for a defendant
    Attorney -- one who transfers or assigns, within the bar, another's rights and property acting on behalf of the ruling crown (government)
    It's very clear that an attorney is not a lawyer. The lawyer is a learned counselor who advises. The ruling government appoints an attorney as one who transfers a tenant's rights, allegiance, and title to the land owner (government).
    Feudal Tenancy
    If you think you are a landowner in America, take a close look at the warranty deed or fee title to your land. You will almost always find the words "tenant" or "tenancy." The title or deed document establishing your right as a tenant, not that of a landowner, has been prepared for transfer by a licensed BAR Attorney, just as it was carried out within the original English feudal system we presumed we had escaped from in 1776.
    A human being is the tenant to a feudal superior. A feudal tenant is a legal person who pays rent or services of some sort for the use and occupation of another's land. The land has been conveyed to the tenant's use, but the actual ownership remains with the superior. If a common person does not own what he thought was his land (he's legally defined as a "feudal tenant", not the superior owner), then a superior person owns the land and the feudal tenant - person pays him to occupy the land.
    This is the hidden Feudal Law in America. When a person (a.k.a. human being, corporation, natural person, partnership, association, organization, etc.) pays taxes to the tax assessor of the civil county or city government (also a person), it is a payment to the superior land owner for the right to be a tenant and to occupy the land belonging to the superior. If this were not so, then how could a local government sell the house and land of a person for not rendering his services (taxes)?
    We used to think that there was no possible way feudal law could be exercised in America, but the facts have proven otherwise. It's no wonder they hid the definition of a human being behind the definition of a man. The next time you enter into an agreement or contract with another person (legal entity), look for the keywords person, individual, and natural person describing who you are.
    Are you the entity the other person claims you are? When you "appear" before their jurisdiction and courts, you have agreed that you are a legal person unless you show them otherwise. You will have to deny that you are the person and state who you really are. Is the flesh and blood standing there in that courtroom a person by their legal definition?
    See PERSON for your role in the BAR Attorney system as a Feudal Tenant.
    British Accredited Registry (BAR)?
    During the middle 1600's, the Crown of England established a formal registry in London where barristers were ordered by the Crown to be accredited. The establishment of this first International Bar Association allowed barrister-lawyers from all nations to be formally recognized and accredited by the only recognized accreditation society. From this, the acronym BAR was established denoting (informally) the British Accredited Registry, whose members became a powerful and integral force within the International Bar Association (IBA). Although this has been denied repeatedly as to its existence, the acronym BAR stood for the British barrister-lawyers who were members of the larger IBA.
    When America was still a chartered group of British colonies under patent - established in what was formally named the British Crown Territory of New England - the first British Accredited Registry (BAR) was established in Boston during 1761 to attempt to allow only accredited barrister-lawyers access to the British courts of New England. This was the first attempt to control who could represent defendants in the court at or within the bar in America.
    Today, each corporate STATE in America has it's own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law - lawyers - to do so. They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?
    Here's where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney - one who transfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.
    Another name game they use is "of counsel," which means absolutely nothing more than an offer of advice. Surely, the mechanic down the street can do that! Advice is one thing; lawful representation is another.
    A BAR licensed Attorney is not an advocate, so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is? He can't plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can't represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant. His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to transfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to transfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court. A more appropriate phrase would be legal plunder. See "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, 1850.
    The official duties of an Esquire
    Let's not forget that all U.S. BAR Attorneys have entitled themselves, as adirect result of their official BAR license and oaths, with the British title of "esquire
    . This word is a derivative of the British word "squire."
    SQUIRE, n. [a popular contraction of esquire] 1. In Great Britain, the title of a gentleman next in rank to a knight. 2. In Great Britain, an attendant on a noble warrior. 3. An attendant at court. 4. In the United States, the title of magistrates and lawyers. In New-England, it is particularly given to justices of the peace and judges. - Webster's 1828 Dictionary.
    ESQUIRE n. Earlier as squire n. 1 lme. [Origin French. esquier (mod. écuyer) f. Latin scutarius shield-bearer, f. scutum shield: see - ary 1.] 1. Orig. (now Hist.), a young nobleman who, in training for knighthood, acted as shield-bearer and attendant to a knight. Later, a man belonging to the higher order of English gentry, ranking next below a knight. lme. b. Hist. Any of various officers in the service of a king or nobleman. c. A landed proprietor, a country squire. arch. - Oxford English Dictionary 1999.
    During the English feudal laws of land ownership and tenancy, a squire - esquire- was established as the land proprietor charged with the duty of carrying out, among various other duties, the act of attornment [see definition above] for the land owner and nobleman he served. Could this be any simpler for the average American to understand? If our current U.S. BAR Attorneys were just lawyers, solicitors, barristers, advocates or counselors, then they would call themselves the same. They have named themselves just exactly what they are, yet we blindly cannot see the writing on the wall.
    The BAR Attorneys have not hidden this from anyone. That's why they deliberately call themselves "Esquires" and "Attorneys at law ." It is the American people who have hidden their own heads in the sand.
    Knowing these simple truths, why would anyone consider the services of BAR Attorney-Esquire as his representative within the ruling courts of America? Their purposes, position, occupation, job, and duty is to transfer your allegiance, property, and rights to the landowner, a.k.a. STATE. [See Our Enemy, The State by Albert J. Nock, 1935, His Classic Critique Distinguishing 'Government' from the 'State']
    They are sworn oath officers of the State whose sole authority is to transfer your property to their landowner-employer. Think about this the next time you enter their courtrooms. From now on, all Americans should refuse to enter past the outer bar when they are called. Who would voluntarily want to relinquish all he has by passing into their legal trap that exists inside that outer bar?
    We must all refuse to recognize their royal position as Squires and refuse to hire them as our representatives and agents. They can't plead or argue for you anyway; all they can do is oversee the act of attornment on behalf of the ruling government whom they serve as official officers. Nothing stops your neighbor from being a barrister or lawyer. No real law prohibits any of us from being lawyers! Even Abraham Lincoln was a well-recognized lawyer, yet he had no formal law degree. Let the BAR Attorneys continue in their jobs as property transfer agent-officers for the State, but if no defendant hires them, they'll have to get new jobs or they'll starve. Fire your BAR Attorney and represent yourself as your own lawyer, or hire any non-BAR-licensed lawyer to assist you from outside the courtroom bar.
    Refuse to acknowledge all judges who are also licensed BAR Attorneys. Every judge in Florida State is a member of the Florida BAR. This is unlawful and unconstitutional as a judge cannot be an Esquire nor can he represent any issue in commerce, such as that of the State. Every Florida State judge has compromised his purported neutral and impartial judicial position by being a State Officer through his BAR licensure. This is an unlawful monopoly of power and commerce.
    The Unauthorized Practice of Law
    Fire your BAR Attorney. Refuse to acknowledge their corrupt inner-bar courts of thievery. Formally charge them with the illegal act of practicing law without lawful authority. Why? A BAR Attorney is not a lawyer by lawful definition. An Esquire is an officer of the State with the duty to carry out State activities, including "attornment."
    State officers have no constitutional authority to practice law as lawyers, barristers, advocates, or solicitors. Americans should begin formally charging these false lawyers with unlawfully practicing the profession of law since their BAR union licenses only give them the privilege to be Attorneys and Squires over asset transfers.
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    Have you all listened to the Lisa Harrison interview on
    thread 97 ? Why do I feel it's Lady dragon Being
    Cobra anybody feel that ?just certain phasing of words
    I don't know just feel that and i do work with people
    with that accent Oh well just had to mention that .I have
    been listening and keeping up hahah

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    ARCHIVE of Drake's show from Wednesday, June 20th (and it's a blockbuster...!):


    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-...id-week-update

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    Quote Posted by Creative Lorraine (here)
    Have you all listened to the Lisa Harrison interview on
    thread 97 ? Why do I feel it's Lady dragon Being
    Cobra anybody feel that ?just certain phasing of words
    I don't know just feel that and i do work with people
    with that accent Oh well just had to mention that .I have
    been listening and keeping up hahah

    Lorraine
    Unless Lady Dragon is using her 'on air' personality in a very contrived way, I don't think there is any connection between Lady Dragon and COBRA. COBRA sounds Scandinavian, IMO; and there are very few aspects of their language construction, vocabulary, etc. that mesh between the two. Not to mention that the rhythm of Lady Dragon's speech is on hyper active mode vs. COBRA.

    If there is any relationship between the two beings, I certainly don't see/hear it.

    "Where your focus goes, energy flows." ~Alex Collier

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    ARCHIVE of Drake's show from Wednesday, June 20th (and it's a blockbuster...!):


    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-...id-week-update
    One thing I do prefer is the use of "We Are The World" vs. that god awful song that Wolf Spirit Radio used to use to intro the Drake Update show. I was going to claw out my eardrums if I had to listen to that song one more time

    "Where your focus goes, energy flows." ~Alex Collier

    My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B; of which I am a member. I volunteered to incarnate here as a representative of our SMC and to assist Gaia and Terrans in the transformation. My message is designed to assist those who are seeking. If the message does not resonate with you, then simply discard it and move on. That is your free will of choice which will always be honored.

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    Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
    Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

    We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

    http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...abal-6-21-2012

    If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!

    If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!


    Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
    Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

    We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

    http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...abal-6-21-2012

    Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?
    This aspect of that message seems to be consistent with what COBRA is reporting:

    Quote If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
    If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!

    "Where your focus goes, energy flows." ~Alex Collier

    My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B; of which I am a member. I volunteered to incarnate here as a representative of our SMC and to assist Gaia and Terrans in the transformation. My message is designed to assist those who are seeking. If the message does not resonate with you, then simply discard it and move on. That is your free will of choice which will always be honored.

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    we-R-one, that is a great capitulation of definition. however, by constant standards, once admitted to the bar, John Doe, Esquire, can be all of those things. It is dependent upon what and whom he is representing at any given time. And, John Doe, Esquire, can be several of those at any one time. For example, anyone who has graduated from law school and passed the bar exam is considered a lawyer for the State in which he has taken the bar exam. He may at any given time be a solicitor, counsel, and attorney for any number of clients at any given time. I was married to one for many years and the terms are interchangeable.
    regards, corson

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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Looks like the Bringers of the Dawn are chiming in: BY GLR MICHAEL (MICAH) THE PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan
    Commissioned by PRIME CREATOR

    We, The Bringers of the Dawn and the Family of Light give you a universal decree to finish the battle for freedom you have been fighting for so long. We so love you and we are watching over you! We are here now very close, so many of us watching what you will do! The whole universe is talking today about EARTH! You your very, very important! What you are about to do has never been done! We want you to handle the URGENT situation on EARTH NOW before we have too! We are here on an urgent mission because the planet is going to heave and buckle if you do not ACT NOW!

    http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...abal-6-21-2012

    Should we sign the galactic Pleiadian cease and desist and arrest the bad guys decree given by the guardian of the divine plan?
    This aspect of that message seems to be consistent with what COBRA is reporting:

    Quote If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
    If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!
    If "Michael" and "Cobra" are saying one thing pertaining to dates (June 21), the plan, etc., and considering that they are in DIRECT CONTACT with the ET's, and "Drake" is not in direct contact, hence: Drake says "I didn't say June 21st, and I don't know the day"....wouldn't it be logical to assume Drake is pretty much uninformed compared to Michael and Cobra? Wouldn't common sense say that it would be more logical to listen to Michael and Cobra concerning gathering reliable information? That is if any of this is true or if you want to just follow this or "play along"?

    Drake even admits that he is just a messenger and all the information he gets is from someone else, yet Michael and Cobra say they get theirs directly from the ET's, those that have the ultimate power or that can "take care of business" if we don't.

    Now Drake is saying within a few days, less than two weeks, or basically when ever.....Michael and Cobra are saying today, June 21st, "surrender or else"....hmmm? actually the 20th and action will be taken on the 21st if there is no surrender.??????

    Personally I feel there really is no reason to listen to Drake anymore until we see him on Fox News, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc etc etc., because he himself even says he doesn't know much and when he gets the "Greenlight" (and knows things) that he will then be on TV to talk.....that we (I) should be listening the Michael and Cobra instead due to the fact that they are on the red telephone so to speak directly connected to ET, the ones who know all things....

    But today is the 21st and there may not be time or reason for me to leave this thread and move on over to the Cobra thread for more "reliable" information and updates.....today may be "game over" day according to Cobra and Michael, hmmmm? what to do?
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    Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?

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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?
    It's still early in the AM where they are at in Mexico, the ET's may be waiting for all the main players to return from the brothels and all get in to one place again....
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    Of course, SF!

    Oh me of little faith!


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    Quote Posted by Ishtar (here)
    Of course, SF! Oh me of little faith!
    patience my dear Watson.....these things take time and must be coordinated correctly, all the main players will be in the same building within the next couple of hours.

    Extraction and evaporation will happen "soon"
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    I think the adherents to all this should have faith, and KNOW the ET's are standing by and just march on Wall Street, and Washington and start arresting the cabal.

    I mean the ET's would be on your side right? Because this is all very real and true wouldn't the ET's appreciate a little commitment , a little action, a little initiative....just trot out down to the local adult book store, get yourself some handcuffs and have at it. Don't worry about someone shooting at you, David Wilcocks said months ago that all guns wouldn't fire.

    I mean its EASY when one's commitment is to listening to radio shows and interviews and gabbing about it on internet forums, but initializing the arrests of the cabal would show some true determination.

    God....I mean ET's are on your side.


    Go on now, go be the heroes that the ET's intend for you to be.

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    From Michael the PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan 6-20-2012

    "If you surrender wholly and completely and change your hearts today, June 20, 2012, the people of EARTH and it's loving and powerful watchers will have mercy on you and allow you to be a part of NEW EARTH!
    If you do not stop today, by tomorrow you will be extracted from this plane returned to PRIME CREATOR, your being will be dismantled, distinguished from existence, and then reassembled into light!

    Furthermore it is decreed that on June 21, 2012 the darkness both physical and non-physical that has controlled this planet and it's people meets its final demise!
    Now true justice is executed!"

    http://soundofheart.org/galacticfree...abal-6-21-2012

    Note: If nothing happens today, I am going to consider all this stuff horse hockey (which I mostly already do) and won't expect any free beer anytime soon....

    Added:

    I am quickly coming to the conclusion that I should be focusing more on my own fantasies, delusions, illusions, imagination, etc., rather than on someone else's....
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    does this mean that once midnight strikes we can all move on?

    because this is laughable at this point.

    nothing.
    has.
    happened
    nothing.
    will.
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    Quote Posted by peace (here)
    does this mean that once midnight strikes we can all move on?

    because this is laughable at this point.

    nothing.
    has.
    happened
    nothing.
    will.
    happen.
    I'm personally moving on from this at midnight, sheesh, I can not remember the last time I have been this distracted and drawn to such nonsense, it's almost like mass hypnosis or some type of sorcery....in my opinion

    I mean no offense to those who feel differently than I do about all of this.

    At 12:01 am on June 22nd, 2012, I am done with this. (I'm sure a few here will be glad to see me exit this thread)

    Beginning on June 22nd, 2012, I am going to focus on something more real to me and a plan that is more closer to home, which is; MY LIFE here on Earth....
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