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    Hahahaha! This is unbelievable!

    Now there´s this guy, "Michael the PLEADIAN, Guardian of the Divine Plan"???

    Hilarious, at least. Honestly.

    Raf.

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    My latest take on "the plan"

    If there is "a plan" which contains the elements as reported by Drake in last night's show, specifically the element that pertains to "what happens to those who are arrested and tried and convicted" in that a single one of "them" could be executed then the plan is completely, totally and entirely the worst possible thing that could happen on earth at this time.

    The problem on earth is a human / non huamn dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

    Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

    To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

    Avocadess - I recall you have posted more than once your disgust at this particular component of "the plan." Look in the mirror and ask yourself, can you condone this? Do you believe in your heart that although most of the intended results of this plan seem to be good for humanity, that then it must be ok to allow executions?

    I am not you but to me that is nothing but chicken %^$# BS. There will be ZERO positive results in a plan that could result in the execution of a single human being no matter how significant has been their participation in creating the current state of our planetary experience.

    Not only count me out, but if I have to chose a side, I am with the bad guys and I will fight for them if I have to.

    Utterly ridiculous this whole plan garbage is...

    Anyone ever see the movie, the Andromeda Strain? Remember that the facility had a self destruct mode via a nuclear device which would automatically trigger if an out break occurred? Remember how the scientist figured out at the last moment that to set off the nuclear explosion would in fact seal the fate of the entire planet?

    This plan is that nuclear device if executions are a part of it.

    Meditate upon this plan supporters.

    justone

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    One of the coolest things I heard this week (of many cool things from both Drake and Cobra) are both Drake and Cobra acknowledging one another. Cobra said on his interview with Lisa M. Harrison that one of the members of the "Resistance" with which Cobra is allied has been in direct contact with one of Drake's contacts.

    I am loving this better than the movie the Matrix. Cobra's disguised voice is a bit tricky to understand for me so I'm thinking it might be difficult for others and I hope to do copious notes from this interview.

    Here's a quote from Lisa M. Harrison's interview with Cobra. In response to Lisa's question about whether there were concerns about how humanity is going to react to these upcoming transitions or transformations. Cobra had characterized all of humanity as "hostages" of the Cabal and told of the reasons why the Pleiadians and other "races" have not yet made direct contact with us en mass. He said that if they did the Cabal would no longer be able to use nuclear weapons worldwide but they would implement MUCH destruction with chemical weapons and so forth.

    In fact, that are a number of things Cobra is NOT willing to discuss until AFTER the Cabal has been removed (or surrendered). TODAY -- JUNE 21ST -- IS A CHANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE CABAL TO SURRENDER. They are going out -- whether they surrender or not.

    (Note from Avocadess: like in most scenarios, surrender will give villainous types and their families a sweeter deal if they can humble themselves enough to do so. I applaud those who are humane enough choose surrender!)

    Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

    To which Lisa responded, "Yes, it's like the victim falling in love with the perpetrator."

    Cobra then added, "Yes, yes. Something similar to Stockholm Syndrome."

    "En mass," said Lisa.

    "Yes," agreed Cobra.



    By the way, Lisa's website is http://www.lisamharrison.com/

    and Cobra's ongoing and excellent, instructive and upbeat blog is at:

    http://2012portal.blogspot.com/
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    From the Cobra blogsite:

    Also, the scope of this blog, projects associated with it regarding planetary liberation and people’s response to this has grown to the point when I can no longer cover everything with my own financial resources. Information in this blog will always be free. However, additional funding is needed from wealthy persons that are willing to contribute something to those liberation efforts. I trust there are some rich people out there that haven’t been completely absorbed into the Rothschild casino and would like to support the Light instead. Minimum donation is $1000 and regular monthly donations would ease things very much. Those willing to help, please contact cobraresistance@gmail.com for details.

    PS: People are asking why the Pleiadians can not manifest funds. For this you need to have a receiving manifestation chamber on the surface of the planet and another sending manifestation chamber on the ship.



    Note: If he'she is saying the hammer is coming down now (or soon) and we are all going to ascend or be evaporated, why do they need thousands and thousands of dollars for future interviews and conferences etc...(which of course would mean over the next several months and or years???? hence: "regular monthly donations" hmmm? I am amused at the manifestation chamber concept too.
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    SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.

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    SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.
    Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

    PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012
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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    The problem on earth is a human / non human dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

    Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

    To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

    justone
    Well, supposedly that is why the Draconian's from the Orion star system came here in the first place, because they were losing their connection to source, or their soul if you will. They had relations with the indigenous species on this planet and created a hybrid. The lower Archon's became energy vampires and have been harvesting our life force ever since. They used the Ormus as food, as well as the juices of the humans, and now they are totally cut off from source. It is questionable whether they are human at all, or have any soul spark, and can survive at all without stealing life force from humans.

    So, what happened below Dulce is a good example of this insane part of the nightmare, and what type of creatures we are dealing with, and whether they have a soul or not. There are very few who have talked about Dulce, and those who have get silenced, like Phil Schneider for example.

    I think the distinction between an empathic soul and a soulless psychopath needs to be made clear, and the moral aspects of this dilemma brought forward. No plan can succeed until we acknowledge the true nature of what we are dealing with.
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    Agenda 21 for Dummies – a UN plan that promotes the New World Order (NW)O) – is on YouTube here:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

    Drake announced through is website today that this evening, Thursday, June 21st, there will be an important national conference call for the United States on:

    HOW TO GET AN ANTI-AGENDA 21 LAW PASSED IN YOUR STATE

    Ken Freeman and Don Casey, who were responsible for getting an "anti-Agenda 21" law passed in Alabama will be on this call.

    Phone Number for Call: 209-647-1600
    PIN to connect to conference : 915138

    This call will begin at 7:00 p.m. Central Time.

    U.S. Time Conversions:

    8:00 p.m. Eastern Time
    6:00 p.m. Mountain Time
    5:00 p.m. Pacific Time
    2:00 p.m. Hawaii Time

    "WE NEED FOR ALL STATES TO PASS THIS 'LAW' !!!!!!!!!!!" -- Drake

    Alabama is the first state to pass an anti Agenda-21 bill (Alabama Senate Bill 477 or SB477). Both Don and Ken were instrumental in getting this bill passed and the wording for the bill was provided by the late Henry Lamb. Drake guarantees that the same or similar bill will be passed in Tennessee in 2013.

    Ken Freeman and Don Casey Website: Alliance for Citizens Rights http://www.keepourrights.org/

    Drake also wrote, "This call will be recorded. If you do not want to be recorded but would like to have a question answered send me an email with your question and I will do my best to get it answered for you (if not answered on the call)."

    I assume you can get your questions to Drake by going to his website, http://americannationalmilitia.com/ and leaving a comment if you cannot find an email contact address.

    Drake also attached a copy of the bill and an article with this link:

    http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com...-un-agenda-21/

    AGENDA for the 2-hour national conference call:

    8:00pm to 8:45pm Don Casey and Ken Freeman - SB477

    8:45pm to 9:00pm Karen Bracken - ICLEI Free In Tennessee

    9:00pm to 9:15pm Karen Bracken - Treaties (a short description attached)

    9:15pm to 9:30pm Karen Bracken - UN Day (Saturday, October 20, 2012) GET THE US OUT OF THE UN (HR1146) How do we want to promote these events?

    9:30pm to 10:00pm Open Discussion

    Other info at the end of Drake's announcement I have not had a chance to check yet but include here:

    Additional information to be discussed during HR1146 segment

    popvox.com

    jbs.org (Act Now)

    Tpolicy.com

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    Cobra also said, after asking for minimum $1000 donations:

    "Actually there are vast funds that rightfully belong to me and could be put into good use in those projects, but the Jesuit faction is constantly blocking my access to that money. I keep fighting to get it back for years, but as of yet, without success."

    I have never been of the monied class in this life, but I have known a few and I find it very believable that Cobra is telling the truth here. If he is sincere and "on mission" (as I believe him to be, though I could be wrong) then I can certainly understand wanting to accept only $1000 donations in order to make things run more simply and efficiently.

    Maybe I'm one of the biggest fools, but I don't think so. I do not consider money to be the be all and end all of anything. Thus far what Cobra has been producing I can only give a "thumbs up" to. He is not requiring me to pay him a penny. I would rather hear Cobra ask for thousand-dollar donations for work to help liberate humanity than a drunk on the street asking for a five-spot to buy another six-pack of beer, that's for sure. =)

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    This might be a dumb question but since i have it i will ask it and im sure someone will answer it.
    Lets just say that th 22nd Comes and nothing happens then what? Whats next? i have to admit i dont visit this thread since weeks but first was the mass arrests on May and etc.... now its this.So if this fails it will be delayed till September or October? I must say that if nothing happens on the 22nd you better start to think this is a lie after a lie.Yet i do respect anyone that believes Drake everyone is free to believe what they want.

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Maybe I'm one of the biggest fools, but I don't think so.
    I don't think your a fool either, perhaps hungry, or even starving, for change and or solutions that none of us can deny that need to happen. It would be wise though to constantly look at everything, not just this Drake/Cobra scenario, from every angle possible and be careful where your led or where you tread......no one can deny that this world is full of lies and deceptions, some very dangerous and deadly.....and some even expensive.
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    So by self admission this is like a big cool movie drama to them.....

    (frowns)

    but we knew that.

    I bet ten dollars these are the same people who sat through 16 showings of Titanic in one day.

    Or maybe Grease.

    Oh rose, oh jack. Jakc, Rose Rose, Jack Jack ....Sandy. Danny I hate you and I never want to see you again!

    These sorts of whisteblowers..? Their fans don't do a whole lot for their credibiity . Gee Beaver its a real swell movie.

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.
    Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

    PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012

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    WORLD LIBERATION MOVEMENT -- Meditating together globally every Sunday until the BREAKTHROUGH to FREEDOM is fully realized:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=FjXIs...ayer_embedded#!

    "EVERY SUNDAY UNTIL OUR PLANET IS LIBERATED."



    SilentFeathers: You are RIGHT -- I am hungry for freedom. I will cheer and back anyone and everyone who I understand, feel and sense are working proactively toward that goal. (I am really BIG on these every Sunday meditations by the way. AS THE PEOPLE GET TOGETHER AND INTEND WITH OUR HEARTS WE SHALL BE FREE...!!!
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    One of the coolest things I heard this week (of many cool things from both Drake and Cobra) are both Drake and Cobra acknowledging one another. Cobra said on his interview with Lisa M. Harrison that one of the members of the "Resistance" with which Cobra is allied has been in direct contact with one of Drake's contacts.

    I am loving this better than the movie the Matrix. Cobra's disguised voice is a bit tricky to understand for me so I'm thinking it might be difficult for others and I hope to do copious notes from this interview.

    Here's a quote from Lisa M. Harrison's interview with Cobra. In response to Lisa's question about whether there were concerns about how humanity is going to react to these upcoming transitions or transformations. Cobra had characterized all of humanity as "hostages" of the Cabal and told of the reasons why the Pleiadians and other "races" have not yet made direct contact with us en mass. He said that if they did the Cabal would no longer be able to use nuclear weapons worldwide but they would implement MUCH destruction with chemical weapons and so forth.

    In fact, that are a number of things Cobra is NOT willing to discuss until AFTER the Cabal has been removed (or surrendered). TODAY -- JUNE 21ST -- IS A CHANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE CABAL TO SURRENDER. They are going out -- whether they surrender or not.

    (Note from Avocadess: like in most scenarios, surrender will give villainous types and their families a sweeter deal if they can humble themselves enough to do so. I applaud those who are humane enough choose surrender!)

    Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

    To which Lisa responded, "Yes, it's like the victim falling in love with the perpetrator."

    Cobra then added, "Yes, yes. Something similar to Stockholm Syndrome."

    "En mass," said Lisa.

    "Yes," agreed Cobra.



    By the way, Lisa's website is http://www.lisamharrison.com/

    and Cobra's ongoing and excellent, instructive and upbeat blog is at:

    http://2012portal.blogspot.com/
    That's total BS - the planners are going to apply the same idiocy that has humanity held hostage against a portion of humanity. Make em surrender or kill em? What idiocy.

    When the sun burps our way and you know the storm is coming... because we WILL have notice... remember this lovely plan. Pure idiocy.

    I sure hope that the "planners" are just delusional... and those who buy into it the same.

    Maybe what happens to us collectively is for the best... at least for the best of the galaxy and universe that no longer gets caught up in such garbage.

    I am sure folks like me will be targeted as having "stockholm syndrome" too.

    pure idiocy.
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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    Gee Beaver its a real swell movie.
    You really crack me up sometimes eagle, Margaritas are on me one of these days!

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    Avocadees
    Quote WORLD LIBERATION MOVEMENT -- Meditating together globally every Sunday until the BREAKTHROUGH to FREEDOM is fully realized:


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=FjXIs...ayer_embedded#!
    I am all for us (humanity) providing as much possitive Intention for this planet and our selves as we possibly can! It can not hurt and it does not matter whatever Wilcock/Drake know, think they know or Imagined. Whatever! We need as much possitive intention as possible. Check out our groups section here for the "Global Intention Group". We need everyone possible!

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    SilentFeathers: I think that is a fair question. I don't know, but it sounds to me like Cobra needs some resources. No doubt Cobra's ET friends might be able to give him some counterfeit or stolen money, but I don't think they like to work that way -- and that is not the level on which they are working.
    Thanks for your perspective, but this solicitation for funds sure sounds to me like Cobra is planning for the future, that is, a future in which the current financial system is still alive and well using currency etc., and people are still traveling around spending money on conference's and or workshops etc....

    PS: I'm at the point right now that if I stepped outside and seen a UFO, I still wouldn't believe any of this Drake/Cobra stuff....I may just exit this thread before 12:01am June 22nd, 2012
    Brilliant points - besides the fact that anyone who believes any of this is incredibly gullible, the fact that gullibility has in fact led to wars (perhaps all wars), all you "plan fans" should really look carefully in the mirror with regards to are you on board with "executions." Where are you Avocadess? You even stated many times that the execution part bothered you. What changed? What could possibly have clicked somewhere inside you that you would support executions?

    Please, enlighten me. I am willing to learn (more).

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    The problem on earth is a human / non human dilema. It is better seen as a "spirit being" dilemma.

    Anyone who can align with any plan that could result in the execution of a single human being is an ignorant idiot and is a tool for the darkest of forces. They are worse than a consciously practicing satanist in that they are self deceptive. At least the stanist consciously practices their dark arts thus they are not imprisoned by their own self deception.

    To execute a single human being for being a victim of the non physical component in this spiritual drama would simply allow the freeing of an individual spirit such that it may enter another bodily vehicle and the problem will NEVER be solved this way.

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    Well, supposedly that is why the Draconian's from the Orion star system came here in the first place, because they were losing their connection to source, or their soul if you will. They had relations with the indigenous species on this planet and created a hybrid. The lower Archon's became energy vampires and have been harvesting our life force ever since. They used the Ormus as food, as well as the juices of the humans, and now they are totally cut off from source. It is questionable whether they are human at all, or have any soul spark, and can survive at all without stealing life force from humans.

    So, what happened below Dulce is a good example of this insane part of the nightmare, and what type of creatures we are dealing with, and whether they have a soul or not. There are very few who have talked about Dulce, and those who have get silenced, like Phil Schneider for example.

    I think the distinction between an empathic soul and a soulless psychopath needs to be made clear, and the moral aspects of this dilemma brought forward. No plan can succeed until we acknowledge the true nature of what we are dealing with.
    Thanks Grip - I agree 100%. So who among us can determine with 100% certainty which beings have a soul or not? And even further to that, what exactly is a soul? If there indeed is supposed to be a realm of solely ensouled beings, then I see that as segregation.

    But hey, what do I know? I see us all as spirit beings having a bodily experience. I see the soul as a container that takes our essence from experience to experience. Is it possible that some amongst us have actually decided to manage the souls of others for their own gain against our will? Can that actually happen? Or could we actually have played an equal part over the millenia in manifesting this strange dance?

    How does any of us know if the Draconians have a soul or not? I am not convinced at all about that. I have been given no proof just people's opinions. Just because some branches of the family eat other branches, most of us humans eat animals. We are animals to the Draconians and so who made us god or king of the jungle of righteousness?

    How has no one here considered that earth might be an experiment that could result in the Draconians rediscovery of their supposed lost soul? I can become a vegetarian if I want to. Who is judging me now that I am not? Do I lack a soul because I ate chicken for lunch?

    Who has decided which living beings have souls or not and who can eat who or not?

    When are we going to seek a solution such that even our relatives (yes, relatives), the Alpha Draconians, could once again find or create anew a soul if indeed a soul is so critical to experiencing our common realm?
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    Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?
    If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

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    Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?
    If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?
    Hmmm, that's quite the handy answer to a difficult question. Now why didn't I think of that?

    Here I was thinking a new date would be required, but now that's been neatly taken care of.
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