Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[RMorgan]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.

Dear ones,

We have vaporized the cabal! The mass arrests were a huge success!

Unfortunately, you wont remember such persons, because by throwing them into the sun, all their memories and traces of their existence were completely erased from your history!

Rest assured that our plan was very successful and now you are completely free!

Salamat Ya, Salat ma jun!

Raf.

[Chester]

Dear ones,

We have vaporized the cabal! The mass arrests were a huge success!

Unfortunately, you wont remember such persons, because by throwing them into the sun, all their memories and traces of their existence were completely erased from your history!

Rest assured that our plan was very successful and now you are completely free!

Salamat Ya, Salat ma jun!

Raf.

Ohhh and don't forget to make your donations so we can set up a new soul monitoring agency such that no spirit being ever gets outa hand again... and please pass the roast beef while your at it.

[StarDust]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.

For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

[RMorgan]

Posted by StarDust (here)
For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

Oh, so they´re the ones who had this brilliant idea.

Anyway, it still doesn´t make any sense to me and frankly, these folks are looking worse than the people they are supposedly fighting against.

So, they want to end violence with more violence? Really? Don´t we ever learn?

I might be wrong, but I think there´s nothing divine about it and, in the Earthly realm, it simply doesn´t work.

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

If anyone here is thinking about donating $1.000 to this folks, please, think again. There are several real, tangible, transparent, solid and very serious charity institutions that could really use this money to save real lives.

Raf.

[StarDust]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

Oh, so they´re the ones who had this brilliant idea.

Anyway, it still doesn´t make any sense to me and frankly, these folks are looking worse than the people they are supposedly fighting against.

So, they want to end violence with more violence? Really? Don´t we ever learn?

I might be wrong, but I think there´s nothing divine about it and, in the Earthly realm, it simply doesn´t work.

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. As Bashar states, "shift to the one you prefer!" The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Edv0v2mOL60

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by RMorgan (here)


Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

I agree, it's blowing my mind watching everything in the arsenal of science fiction, religions, myths, etc being thrown into this and it is only getting more believable and or more acceptable for many as an absolute truth.....it's actually quite disturbing to me.....

[Chester]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Well, it's been 21st June here now in England for some 14 hours. It's past lunchtime and I've yet to see one cabal member being "extracted from the planet". As many of the main players are all in Mexico at the G20, it should have been quite easy for them to perform one foul swoop with their interstellar vacuum cleaner! C'mon ETs, what are you waiting for?

If certain members are 'removed' by taking them and casting them into the central sun, then their memory will cease to exist - there will be no traces of their existence, previous existence or future existence as they will have been effectively vaporized from any record aside from what is known by Source. So, how do you "know" it hasn't already happened? It's quite the conundrum for anyone looking for proof, don't you think?

Hey mate,

I can´t see how throwing someone into the sun would be different than killing the same person with a regular method, like a bullet in the head or even burning the person here on Earth.

Why would anyone believe that casting a person into the sun would simply and magically erase all memories of the existence of this person? It doesn´t make any sense.

No matter how you "vaporize" a person, the consequences and marks of his previous actions would remain intact.

Don´t give these folks more crazy ideas because maybe they will start using them in the future, since I´m sure they are constantly monitoring forums like this one.

For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

According to several sources revered amongst the more open minded (Alex Collier being one of them) - the conflict within which earth is currently involved has been going on for several hundred thousand years.

Hurling spirit beings into the sun will solve nothing. Finding ways to co-exist with spirit beings and gainig the spiritual strength to defend against spirit beings intent on imposing their will upon another without that other's consent are the solutions. Hurling beings we deem too dangerous to allow to live in their bodily forms into the sun (under the delusion their eternal spirit will become extinguished) or executing beings in bodily form will simply result in the scenario such that a bigger, badder close relative to the temporarily defeated ones will come and seek revenge and/or the entities that are controlling the physical beings will escape only to be able to inhabit another physical vessel. That they feed upon the most horrific emotions in the lower astral suggests that by executing these beings will allow them to create the very energies they feed upon and thus likely will carry forth into their next incarnation. Now if we want to remain a selfish race (humanity) then perhaps this is a wise (temporary) solution.

I suggest otherwise.

And as for the Pleiadians and the Sirians - they are also purported to be involved in both positive ways and negative ways. When are these so called contacts going to start identifying individuals instead of using blanket generalities such as "Pleiadians"?

I want the names of the Pleiadians because I judge the individual beings as to whether I trust them or not... not basing my judgement upon their genetic heritage.

[9eagle9]

A very clear and clear message to the powers that be that we find their brand of punishment acceptable. And people think this is the creation of a new world.

It no longer amazes me that people betray their principles that readily and what are they getting out of it? The promise perhaps that someday they'll have a rifle leveled at their head, something that is now unheard of as we post from the comfort of our couch. When that day comes , it's what you agreed to, and so this is what you get.


Yeah well if Source decides to send ..whomever...into the sun let that be Source's decision and not some prattling house wife or arm chair warrior who has no real implication of what 'having blood on one's hands' really means for them.

[RMorgan]

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Hey mate,

I really respect your point of view, since it´s your personal belief, but I don´t buy it.

Archons? I´ve been here at PA for a long time and people rarely used this word. Then, about three months ago, someone mentioned this word in a thread and now, suddenly, everything is about Archons.

The Archons now are the ultimate escape mechanism to blame others for our mistakes.

My point of view is that humans are powerful and can do even good or bad things.

Unfortunately, some decided to do a lot of bad things and here we are.

Anyway, I respect you and your point of view.

Raf.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

[StarDust]

Posted by justoneman (here)
According to several sources revered amongst the more open minded (Alex Collier being one of them) - the conflict within which earth is currently involved has been going on for several hundred thousand years.

The primary difference between then and now is that Gaia was now preparing to become a proverbial "butterfly" from the caterpillar it was during the past moment until now. I think everyone would be singing a different tune if Gaia had chosen the "traditional" route - massive earth changes with most of the population of the earth 'moving on' to their next assignment; some as 4th density humans, most as 3rd density repeats elsewhere.

Although I find some people's compassion for the worst of the worst to be touching in a pseudo Stockholm Syndrome sort of way, it is clearly the decision of Source as to how this is handled. I'm prepared to accept Source's decision either way. I was always taught that "you make your bed & you must lay in it." And if that bed happens to be the Central Sun for some because they can't stop their dark and nefarious ways, then so be it.

[Oouthere]

justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories of evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

[9eagle9]

It is quite disturbing because it is no different than observing how people are losing their marbles and eating people's faces off in public. Less extreme perhaps but when one starts revering something that has been opposed on humanity , mass executions, in the form of holocausts, genocide, witch hunts PUBLICLY you know you are watching infiltration and conversion right in front of your nose.

That sort of parasitical influence used to hide itself but since people publicly, and willfully agree to it, why hide?

Divided earth, that all these prophets have spoke of. Not in the way described where all the good people go to Bambi land and the bad folks are left to stew in a destroyed earth but who remains relatively un scored on a spirtual level and who gets sucked into yet the same old tired game that has been playing out for thousands of years.

Right now there is no less than six threads describing what ails us, how we are infiltrated and become the unwitting pawn to the powers that be. For every thread describing that we have at least four in play so that shows people losing themselves to infiltration and another program uploaded into the old artificial installation they never bothered to do anything about because someone 'is coming to fix everything'.

The fixing is occurring now. Fine tuning the old installation there in case someone may have second thoughts or see how utterly insane this all is.

For those people who have participated in those threads of how this cording in programming occurs here's their opportunity to see it live time and people wonder why its so morbidly fascinating, to watch others sell them selves out.

These are not people who are remotely qualified to determine who gets to live and who gets to die because they can't see what is happening to themselves and that is more than likely what you find so disturbing.

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)


Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

I agree, it's blowing my mind watching everything in the arsenal of science fiction, religions, myths, etc being thrown into this and it is only getting more believable and or more acceptable for many as an absolute truth.....it's actually quite disturbing to me.....

[RMorgan]

Posted by Oouthere (here)
justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

Hey mate,

I think this "plan" was initially labeled mass arrests not mass murder.

Prison is more than enough for those people. There´s no single reason to kill any human being.

No one, alien or human, has the right to kill anyone. period.

Raf.

[StarDust]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?

The 27 Trillion year old hologram that we all play within was created by Source. The bottom line is that if Source changes the rule book within the hologram, then the rule book is changed. Period! And according to these reports, the energies are only being returned to Source and I have no way of confirming if their memory is erased in its entirety beyond the lower levels of consciousness.

[StarDust]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Oouthere (here)
justoneman,

I don't necessarily believe what Drake says, but sometimes cancer has to be cut out of a body and is beyond being healed. Killing is at times necessary and to think otherwise will simply make you and those you are responsible for dead if/when it is needed. Then all that is left is the victories evil ones that will kill to enforce their will.

Rich

Hey mate,

I think this "plan" was initially labeled mass arrests not mass murder.

Prison is more than enough for those people. There´s no single reason to kill any human being.

No one, alien or human, has the right to kill anyone. period.

Raf.

Then take it up with the ET/EDs who have allegedly been tasked with this plan of action. And again, there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE. We are all infinite expressions of Source until Source decides to return these aspects back to Source.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?

Everything is Soul, Spirit, whatever one wants to call It. There's nothing that is not.

[RMorgan]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Then take it up with the ET/EDs who have allegedly been tasked with this plan of action. And again, there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE. We are all infinite expressions of Source until Source decides to return these aspects back to Source.

Hey mate,

Don´t get me wrong, but you´re falling in a big contradiction here.

First, you say a highly unsubstantiated thing like - "The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator."

Then, Fred says that - "It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed."

Then you reply saying - "According to whom?"- saying that he´s just making assumptions.

And then you say that - "there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE."

If Fred says that "no soul is ever lost or destroyed" and you say that "there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE", then isn´t it the same thing?

Besides, what are all those fantastic things you´re saying but very big assumptions?

I could answer all your statements the same way you´ve answered Fred:

According to whom?

Raf.

[StarDust]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed.

According to whom? Your first assumption is that the beings being returned to source have souls to begin with. Do you have the ability to determine that they do?

Everything is Soul, Spirit, whatever one wants to call It. There's nothing that is not.

On an fundamental level I understand what you are trying to say. I, too, believe that everything is constructed out of Source. To me that is a more definitive term since there are infinite ways that 'beings' (aspects of Source) are constructed. I don't, however, believe that all beings have souls. They may have started out that way, but some, through free will of choice have walked away from that 'model'.

The reason I make that distinction is that it seems rather evident that some 'species' in this universe have been seeking ways to extend their survival since some of the critical essence of 'soul energies' were lost, discarded, weened out of existence, etc. Now they are stuck and trying desperately to use the incredibly diverse genetic makeup of humans as a life-line. Well, that time is up and for those beings that thought they could do it better than Source. They are now being returned to Source. If they have go kicking and screaming into the light, then that is their choice.

[Billy]

I am not meaning to go off topic here but a few of the recent comments about the soul has reminded me of the Hindu story of Hanuman battling the Demi God Ravana who could not be destroyed.



Hanuman later found out the secret of Ravana's imortality. His soul was not with his body but kept in a secret place in the underworld seperated from the body.
The container that Hanuman holds is the soul of Ravana, He is returning the soul to Ravana to enable him to be defeated.


Read the story here. Just click on the next number to follow the story.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1194

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1195

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/ramayana/1196

I sometimes wonder if the Cabal have sold their souls and are trapped here.

Peace