Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[gripreaper]

Posted by StarDust (here)
The 27 Trillion year old hologram that we all play within was created by Source.

You talking about the Draconian's Enlil and Enki, who claim to be gods, or is this source you speak of a higher council? I know of the greatest avatars of of "The Great Central Sun", but are these Draconian's descendants of this star, and is the Central Sun the original star?

[StarDust]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Don´t get me wrong, but you´re falling in a big contradiction here.

On the contrary, I'm crystal clear.

First, you say that the "The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator."

That is a historical statement. Not an opinion.

Then, Fred says that "It doesn't work that way StarDust, no soul is ever lost or destroyed."

I differentiate between what I refer to as Source and that some entities do not have souls in the complete sense of what it is to be from Source. This is more a difference in terminology, not a contradiction of belief.

Then you reply saying "According to whom?", saying that he´s just making assumptions.

I was asking for clarification of terms, which I expanded upon in a later response.

And then you say that "there is no death - that is an illusion and distinct distortion of the Law of ONE."

That is correct within accordance of The Law of ONE.

What are all those fantastic things you´re saying besides big assumptions?

You're trying to be argumentative, when none exists.

I could answer all your statements the same way you´ve answered Fred:

According to whom?

Raf.

Now you're just being trite. According to "The Law of One". Highly recommended, since it's clear you haven't read it thoroughly.

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Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
The 27 Trillion year old hologram that we all play within was created by Source.

You talking about the Draconian's Enlil and Enki, who claim to be gods, or is this source you speak of a higher council? I know of the greatest avatars of of "The Great Central Sun", but are these Draconian's descendants of this star, and is the Central Sun the original star?

No, I'm talking about Source - the creator of ALL. Not demi gods who thought they could do better in this sector of space.

As for the central sun, I don't know of its precise importance other than what has been suggested within the potential plan of action by COBRA and others.

[SilentFeathers]

Yeah Raf, read the law of one and all of this will make sense.....

[StarDust]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Archons? I´ve been here at PA for a long time and people rarely used this word. Then, about three months ago, someone mentioned this word in a thread and now, suddenly, everything is about Archons.

The Archons now are the ultimate escape mechanism to blame others for our mistakes.

It's not an escape mechanism, it's coming to the understanding of who the true 'puppet masters' have been here on earth for thousands of years. The fact that it's been under wraps is no surprise since many people are just awakening to the fact that higher Density creatures (both positive and negative) exist. Before, most people had little capacity to 'believe' what they couldn't see with their own lying eyes. But the Gnostics and other ancient peoples talked about them 1000's of years ago. Just because it's now entering the lexicon of many people should be no surprise given the degree to which humanity is now waking up.

[Chester]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
For starters, this wasn't my idea. It was reported on the internet as one method of dealing with the most recalcitrant of the Cabal, by COBRA and others. Secondly, this method is allegedly one way of destroying a soul in all of its forms. Is this true or effective? I can't tell you if it is. Thirdly, there is a vast difference between trying to extinguish a soul vs. 'killing' someone's carbon based bio-body suit here on earth - the 'suit' may parish, but the soul lives on. Finally, what Source decides to do with Source is its business. In that sense, there are no rules aside from the ones that Source establishes - it is the ultimate game of experience conducted within the Law of ONE.

Oh, so they´re the ones who had this brilliant idea.

Anyway, it still doesn´t make any sense to me and frankly, these folks are looking worse than the people they are supposedly fighting against.

So, they want to end violence with more violence? Really? Don´t we ever learn?

I might be wrong, but I think there´s nothing divine about it and, in the Earthly realm, it simply doesn´t work.

Honestly, in my opinion, this drama is getting worse everyday.

As hard as I try, I don´t know how people are buying this.

Raf.

It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. As Bashar states, "shift to the one you prefer!" The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Edv0v2mOL60

who fed you that garbage about 26K years?

the same Pleiadians Truman Cash discusses and has had experience with?

Any source of information that injects thought into the minds of others such that that thought leads to an ultimatum where war is one of the options happens to be an archon - get it? Look at yourself and see how much your ego is wrapped up into what you believe is true and realize that that is the only thing standing in the way of you seeing the actual light which is and can only ever be a solution founded in love.

but what do I know? nothing.

[StarDust]

Posted by justoneman (here)
who fed you that garbage about 26K years?

the same Pleiadians Truman Cash discusses and has had experience with?

Any source of information that injects thought into the minds of others such that that thought leads to an ultimatum where war is one of the options happens to be an archon - get it? Look at yourself and see how much your ego is wrapped up into what you believe is true and realize that that is the only thing standing in the way of you seeing the actual light which is and can only ever be a solution founded in love.

but what do I know? nothing.

That is my understanding of historical time that they were provided one cosmic cycle to act within their own free will. That cycle is now up and it's time for Gaia to move on. It is not a debate, the progression of Gaia into a 4th Density positive being is happening all around you weather anyone likes it or not!

If you have a better explanation of the historical significance of the cosmic cycle here on earth and what occurred within that time frame, then please share it with us.

[TargeT]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Yeah Raf, read the law of one and all of this will make sense.....

I haven't read the LAW of ONE because it seemed to be from channeled sources (which I just avoid as I seem inclined to raise bull**** flags on everything I read when I don't avoid them)

StarDust: is this the main source of your idea's on this topic?

[9eagle9]

Parasitical influences or rather....programming.

Two camps. Those who wish to rid themselves of this sort of influence .

..And those who want to use them to blame for their failure to initiate in ridding themselves of this sort of influence and accumulate more while they are at it.

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
It is simple. The Archons and their minions were given a 26,000 year window to do their thing - use humans as batteries, steal their wealth, dictate their capacity as creators, etc. Now their time is up. They have been given a choice, stop trying to control the evolution of a species (humanity) or return to the creator.

I suppose that if you love the drama, then this is a travesty. I, for one, am ready to move forward with the evolution of consciousness on this planet for the benefit of Gaia and humanity. But if you prefer the chaos and mayhem, then that is all you need to focus on and the universe will grant your desire. The choice is ultimately yours!

Personally, I find the thought of the central sun as being a giant "Bug Zapper" for Source as comical.

Hey mate,

I really respect your point of view, since it´s your personal belief, but I don´t buy it.

Archons? I´ve been here at PA for a long time and people rarely used this word. Then, about three months ago, someone mentioned this word in a thread and now, suddenly, everything is about Archons.

The Archons now are the ultimate escape mechanism to blame others for our mistakes.

My point of view is that humans are powerful and can do even good or bad things.

Unfortunately, some decided to do a lot of bad things and here we are.

Anyway, I respect you and your point of view.

Raf.

[TargeT]

Posted by StarDust (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Archons? I´ve been here at PA for a long time and people rarely used this word. Then, about three months ago, someone mentioned this word in a thread and now, suddenly, everything is about Archons.

The Archons now are the ultimate escape mechanism to blame others for our mistakes.

It's not an escape mechanism, it's coming to the understanding of who the true 'puppet masters' have been here on earth for thousands of years. The fact that it's been under wraps is no surprise since many people are just awakening to the fact that higher Density creatures (both positive and negative) exist. Before, most people had little capacity to 'believe' what they couldn't see with their own lying eyes. But the Gnostics and other ancient peoples talked about them 1000's of years ago. Just because it's now entering the lexicon of many people should be no surprise given the degree to which humanity is now waking up.

I don't see archons as an escape mech. either, espeicaly since there are older texts mentioning them (and you can see the reflections in religion etc) I'd call it more of a "relabeling"... We already knew these things were out there but had a lot of names for them.. ET, ED, Devils, Ghosts etc...

Posted by StarDust (here)
That is my understanding of historical time that they were provided one cosmic cycle to act within their own free will. That cycle is now up and it's time for Gaia to move on. It is not a debate, the progression of Gaia into a 4th Density positive being is happening all around you weather anyone likes it or not!

If you have a better explanation of the historical significance of the cosmic cycle here on earth and what occurred within that time frame, then please share it with us.

This is also a part of the "law of one" material?

[StarDust]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Yeah Raf, read the law of one and all of this will make sense.....

I haven't read the LAW of ONE because it seemed to be from channeled sources (which I just avoid as I seem inclined to raise bull**** flags on everything I read when I don't avoid them)

StarDust: is this the main source of your idea's on this topic?

Anchor did a brilliant job summarizing how most people react to "The Law of ONE" series:

Posted by Anchor (here)
Most people I know fall into two camps on this:

1) I don't trust anything channeled by whatever means

2) The law of one, having read it critically find that it makes a lot of sense to me (and has a ring of truth, is powerfully transformative, awakening etc etc)

What I have never seen is anyone ever! falling into a hypothetical third camp:

3) I have critically evaluated the Law of One, and it seems false and deceptive to me and I recommend you do not read it!

My opinion is (2).

I have seen also seen a few people who pretend to have read it when they have not really done so, and I ignore these ones

I concur with Anchor's assessment in its entirity.

[StarDust]

Posted by TargeT (here)
This is also a part of the "law of one" material?

Not precisely. The Law of ONE series is primarily instructive on the evolution of consciousness on earth, but from an individual perspective. There were, however, some questions with regard to major historical occurrences that were asked relative to expanding the understanding. You can check out some of the topics here: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php...h+History&sc=1

At the time the books were written, there was no understanding/mentioning of Gaia choosing to undergo a mass expansion of consciousness. By many sources, this is something that is totally unique and has never been done before. This is why I'm postulating that the 'rules' have changed.

My historical references with regard to the evolution of life on this planet has come from other sources. However, I consider such topics to be interesting footnotes and little more. The true understanding of the evolution of species on this planet will be widely available for all to preview once the cabal is removed and the transformation is well underway. My understanding is that the Archonic 'veil' will be lifted and we will all have instant access to all of our past lives/existences/experiences/etc.

I do not know when this will occur.

[9eagle9]

And an alternating pov on RA, and of course the ever popular Horus RA as a parasitical God thread.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...442#post509442

[danceblackcatdance]

Posted by justoneman (here)
the same Pleiadians Truman Cash discusses and has had experience with?

I don't believe Truman said they came from the Pleiades

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
However, this does not necessarily mean that the SSPs come from the Pleiades. I have no idea where they come from.

[StarDust]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And an alternating pov on RA, and of course the ever popular Horus RA as a parasitical God thread.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...442#post509442

As a point of reference, there is no known connection between "Horus RA" that has been well examined within Houman's thread and "The Social Memory Complex known as RA" that is a part of "The RA Material / The Law of ONE" series; aside from the fact that both have RA in their names. For all I know, "RA" is some ancient version of "Smith" or "Jones" which are popular last names within caucasian cultures.

[peace]

so:

we done here or what?

nothing is happening. no lawn darts, blown up ufo's, or mass arrests.

no acension. the earth just keeps on spinning.

can we all go about our days?

or is there another round of dates and promises to look forward to?
or were we all saved at the last minute with not a shred of evidence?

just watch, that's what's coming. and when it does, realize you've wasted a ton of time on this. hell, so have i.

i'm tired of trying to tell you nothing will happen.
you obviously don't want to believe it and are so inundated with lies that you'll never believe that you were being lied to, even when Wilcock and Drake are lying directly to your faces.

ban me for this, whatever, i've been put "on vacation" for being critical of wilcock for saying what I'm about to type, but:
he's false.
well meaning, to a degree ,but false.
when he cried, it was fake.
his "data" is nonsense.
the same interview he "cried" on HE ADMITTED TO COVERTLY RECORDING CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER ALTERNATIVE MEDIA WHISTLE BLOWERS. BILL RYAN HAS RECENTLY DISCLOSED THAT DAVID IS VERY GOOD AT COMPILING DATA AND USING OTHER PEOPLES DATA, BUT NOT VERY GOOD AT SHARING HIS DATA, SO I THINK THAT MEANS:

HE LIES, AND STEALS (AS EVIDENCED BY COVERTLY RECORDING CONVERSATIONS - WHICH HE ADMITTED TO) WHICH MEANS: HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED AS SOMEONE THAT IS RELIABLE, TRUSTWORTHY OR HONEST.

Sorry folks. But how am I the only one bringing this point up (again)?

There is no argument to the point. He admitted the violation of others trust, and covertly recording conversations. How many times has he done this then presented the data as his own?

How much of this is a BIG STINKING LIE?

[TargeT]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
And an alternating pov on RA, and of course the ever popular Horus RA as a parasitical God thread.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...442#post509442

Have you read "Shopping for the spirit" ?

They encompass everything and also expand on the truth behind what these "Archons" actually are, why they came into existence, the leading role they play behind the control system/agenda itself and the false creation that is the astral (which they rule).

http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop1.shtml

[peace]

and if i ever meet and archon, reptilian, grey, etc. etc. etc., i'll give a sh*t. until you do or until i do and we can present proof, how about we save it? because things being presented here as fact are WILD AND STUPID SOUNDING, LENDING NO CREDIT TO THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE MAKING.

[TargeT]

Posted by peace (here)
and if i ever meet and archon, reptilian, grey, etc. etc. etc., i'll give a sh*t. until you do or until i do and we can present proof, how about we save it? because things being presented here as fact are WILD AND STUPID SOUNDING, LENDING NO CREDIT TO THE ARGUMENT YOU ARE MAKING.

I'd agree, but I've never met gravity & it sure seems to effect me; as such I'm a bit more open to considering ideas.

I view all of this as an intelectual exersize and basicaly "cherry pick" what fits my path through life, what doesn't I ignore...

for example:

archons have a way where they EMIT a concious programme in TIME.
They only are able to rule in the future or past TIME not in the NOW, once we regain our conciousness into the NOW we have WON.

Focusing on dates in past and future keeps us in their artificial construct.

This seems right to me, it also lines up with Ego & a few other things... something I like to call "random corroboration" others have labeled it Synchronicity (I think).

reguardless, we clearly are not very "On Topic" with the current vien of conversation, so don't worry about the title of the thread.. this has little to do with drake (and yet it seems to have a lot to do if you consider the topic of Archons & their M.O.)

[Avocadess]

BillyJi, The way I learned the Ramayana, in the end of the story about Ram, Sita, Hanuman and Ravanah (aka Ravan) the Hindu scriptures say that as it turned out Ravanah was one of Ram's greatest devotees -- because he never could get Ram (aka Rama) off of his mind. He was effectively "meditating" on Ram at all times.

It's an interesting thing to think about. I personally have come to the conclusion, (and I certainly could be wrong), that even the worst of the worst have a way to loop around back to the Light of Love and Heart. I'm a cock-eyed optimist, I know -- and I don't mean it could happen within just one lifetime, but in the whole grand and long-term scheme of things.

DanceBlackCatDance: Love your profile animation. (Why does it make me crave saltwater taffy?! lol)

[StarDust]

Posted by TargeT (here)
reguardless, we clearly are not very "On Topic" with the current vien of conversation, so don't worry about the title of the thread.. this has little to do with drake (and yet it seems to have a lot to do if you consider the topic of Archons & their M.O.)

I thought the same thing until recently with regard to the Archons and Draco & Hydra Reptillian off shoots until recently. I still think that it's important to not spend extraordinary amounts to time focusing on what they are as much as how they function within the larger picture. I think that David Icke did a brilliant job explaining how this whole puzzle fits together quite nicely in his most recent interview:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uci2PswSCJ8

After watching the video, I thought it provided a good overview of why things may not be moving as fast as they should be on the outside but are moving as fast as they need to be on the inside. I think it's worth a look.