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    Selene,

    I am sharing a perception and that is all. I have no need to explain "ideas" nor gather support for anything. What a common misperception on the island of misfit ideas. I acknowledge that my thoughts are clearly irrelevant to those who choose to combat them vs acknowledging an experience of another for that which it simply is. And I'm certainly OK with that. Your sugar coated nature does not disguise the condescending tone of your message. I have no desire to join your clique of internet warriors. Collectively, you really are a bunch that is easy to get stirred up over virtually nothing (not all, but some of you). It's quite entertaining at times!
    Okay, I think I can break this down a bit more and hopefully explain why the skepticism exists. First of all, trust is a single variable that determines whether or not someone accepts what you say in any way shape or form. No other thing, all trust. But one of the first lessons learned by the deceived is that trusting blindly or trusting without sufficient demonstration allows one to quite easily be deceived in horrible ways. For someone to trust what you have to say then, you have to make yourself into an example of what you want to convey that will breech all of the bad experiences held by those who were deceived. Every bad experience leads to developing a form of defense. These defenses exist to protect the abused, and they are not to be ignored if you care even a smidgeon about your message being accepted by anyone. One thing my spiritual research has shown me is that if anything, science is more about being able to establish trust in an idea without having to trust who presented it. You propose something that can be tested, and proven wrong (Called falsifiability) and if it survives many various and different attempts at being proven wrong then by process of elimination your explanation can be trusted to be the most correct possible explanation at that given time all available data.

    Science however shows us quickly our own human limitations in how physical changes alone can irrevocably alter our own perception of the world. Even if the mind is not the brain, the brain is still a two-way connection to the mind and influencing one certainly influences the other. This means that in short no human being can ever be 100% guaranteed (at least as we exist here and now, today) to be 100% correct in their understanding of what they experienced. Emotional trauma, toxins in the blood, brain damage, or any number of conditions can all drastically impair our senses, ability to understand, or communicate what exactly it is we are seeing and hearing, let alone feeling emotionally. Thus it is always best to first approach every experience first with the belief we could very well be wrong about what it was, and question/test what it is we remember with ourselves and others to be absolutely sure we're not being led astray by ourselves or any other stray environmental factors that might lead us to make a poor conclusion.

    Now, science has its own problems because it is still practiced by fallible people operating on their own dogma of materialism, but science itself offers the tools to get around this because it can be used to test any idea, any belief, that claims to in any way shape or form touch the material world. (Gravity is immaterial for instance, yet it effects the material world, and as such we can measure/predict it by its effect on material things.) Of course, if it never touches the material world, science could not predict it. But if it never touches the material world then it seems quite futile to bother studying something that cannot effect you.

    Now here's where we get to the very hard question part: If you have no need to explain yourself, and don't need anyone's support on anything then why are you here and why are you claiming to know ANYTHING? Because it's true? How would we know that? How many homeless guys on drugs absolutely believe they're Jesus? What if one of them really was? What good would him saying he was Jesus do if he couldn't prove it to anyone? So if advocacy and enlightenment isn't it, then what is your purpose here? If you're not trying to discuss or debate ideas then why does it sure seem to us like you are? (By responding to others in a way that insinuates you can prove yourself correct, yet does not offer evidence of correctness.) And yes, if you're here to "Share your experiences" that counts as advocacy because you're here to share something based on the idea of offering it as aid to others. But if you cannot even begin to make your experience directly relevant or important to anyone then all you're really doing is annoying people, just like every homeless addict who claims to be Jesus.

    Because if one of them really was Jesus, and he had a real mission to do here, he wouldn't hurt it by claiming he was Jesus if he had no proof and knew his success depended on people trusting him for who he was. He'd present himself as authentically as possible while acknowledging the truths of this current world as well. (Namely that things are not merely trusted or taken as they are because this population has dealt with a history or murder, torture and deceit that naturally makes us very untrusting towards anything that seems miles and mountains outside of what we currently believe we know.) By refusing to acknowledge that this is what it takes to get your message accepted, yet persisting in its repetition, you're just turning more people off rather than getting them to care about what you have to say. Why? Because we've had thousands of people say just the same thing and turn out to be frauds.

    It's not particularly fair to you and I'm sorry for that; you're not the boy who cried wolf. But because enough other boys in the past who came before you did cry wolf, you'll now have to bear the burden of understanding that anyone who outwardly appears to be a boy crying wolf will be approached that way until the wolf's presence can be determined and trust will only begin to be built after a history of successful confirmed wolf spotting has occurred.
    Blind trust is laziness and irresponsibility and a great thing to demonstrate to our children and others... no wonder we are at where we are at.
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    I think the confusion comes from those who are trying to stop people fearing physical death (because the spirit survives) and those who define death more abstractly as personal discontinuity. If I were to lose my entire memory, and wake up somewhere else entirely it would be the same as if I'd never lived my first life at all. My physical body wouldn't even need to have died so long as I had no contact from anything involved in the prior life. Therefore you could say the first person died and became a new one even though physical death never occurred. Those who see death as personal discontinuity would see the above as the definitive death. As it is the utter dissolution of one's individual identity, and therefore their personal continuity. In this respect yes, they would "die forever" as they would lose everything that they had used to recognize the world around them. Even if the "spark of awareness" that sees, continues, the person before has just died as every way of identifying who they were was just erased.
    This is interestingly precisely as I see the dynamic between the spirit and the soul and its all about perspective.

    The soul is the container that carries one's "essence" through to the next experience.

    From the perspective of the spirit - If one transcends their soul, they have somehow undone the lies they told themselves throughout their spirit being experiences. These are the lies which we "believed" which created the soul complex to begin with which we carry like a bag of rocks through all our incarnative experiences.

    From the perspective of the soul - If one can realize the truth that one is a spirit being, perfect, immortal and eternal and at the same time bring forth into their conscious mind all their experience from their soul memories into their now moment, one might see they are a "one off" from source (child of creation or god or source, whatever word you like) and yet find yourself in a realm of existence within which are infinite sisters/brothers of this same source... all of us perfect children of source, immortal and eternal. This is how love was born... just my opinion.

    The difference between the two perspectives may be what effects ones proclivity towards psychopathy (the spirit being perspective sans the soul) or one's proclivity towards acceptance that each of us is an equal from the perspective of source - which can be seen as that we are all "children of God."

    It is my view that just because I have realized that I am a spirit being - a perfect, one off, child of creation - a "son of God" as meant by A Course in Miracles, which had simply forgotten who/what I am but no longer am held within that condition... and that I am "free of my soul" which for me is simply the baggage I have carried through from previous experiences does not mean that I am now a psychopath because the soul experience allowed me to realize how joyful it is to be a teammate as opposed to being king of the universe.

    The freed spirit being that chooses to be the egoic expression - metaphorically this is "satan" expressing itself as a psychopath whereas the freed spirit being that appreciates its "souled" experiences is able to express itself as an appreciative sister or brother with all spirit beings.

    I have chosen the latter and I am free, happy, fear no death, fear nothing other than the possibility of wasting an opportunity to see/experience a realm within which all spirit beings are free and have chosen to appreciate their ensouled experience.

    I have one wish, and that is that more and more folks are able to free themselves of the aspects carried through within their souls from which they have carried forth self deception. Perhaps if we reach the real tipping point within each of us, our world will truly transform, we will be our own saviors though the idea of salvation will likely become foreign to us and Gaia will be one happy camper, the sun might ramp down, the brown dwarf may ramp down and we will avoid the calamity of severe earth changes many folks fear.

    Note: Sometimes people have a hard part about the "perfection" aspect of our being so I will try and clarify by using myself as an example...

    I am perfect.

    Perfectly imperfect.

    When I make a mistake, I make it perfectly.

    You can't make a mistake more perfectly than I can.

    I prove this to myself daily.

    It's good to know this about me.

    Now do your best - "justone" and never forget your soul experience
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    Quote Posted by StarDust (here)
    Since there is a significant mention about Drake, it seems appropriate to include the latest update from COBRA here:

    http://2012portal.blogspot.com/

    Quote Thursday, June 21, 2012
    Operation Stardust 2

    You might want to listen to the excellent last Drake’s interview, especially from 18 to 86 minute mark:

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/global-...id-week-update

    It is obvious at this point that the Cabal as a whole does not want to surrender. The plan of the mass arrests continues. This time of negotiations has not been spent in vain. The Cabal has been given its chance. The generous offer has been refused. This protocol has finally allowed the positive ET forces to start taking some action. According to the Galactic Codex, section IV/2, The Galactic Confederation has an unalienable and unconditional right to the implementation of the Galactic Codex and of conquering the areas of Galactic Codex violation with military force if necessary.

    This subsection gives a legal basis for the liberation of the occupied planets with military force. The military forces of the Confederation remove or give assistance to the local Positive Military in removal of the representatives of the Dark Forces and set the hostages free.

    Operation Stardust 2 was carried out by the Pleiadian Fleet from the orbit of planet Earth. Stardust is the codename of a special advanced nanotechnology. It is a dust made of small nanoparticles that were sprayed into the physical bodies of the members of the Cabal and their minions (think “cosmic chemtrails”). This nanodust can not be removed by any technology known on Earth. Its activation has two phases. The first phase blocks the central nervous system immediately and a person can not move. The second phase kills the person. It will be activated at the time of the Event to block members of the Cabal trying to do any harm. In vast majority of cases Phase 1 activation will be sufficient. The purpose of the Operation Stardust is to counteract any negative effects of Doom 33 that the Cabal might want to use at that point. In combination with the Positive Military action, this basically check-mates the power of the Cabal. This technology will NOT be activated before the Event. At the Event, the Positive Military and civilian authority will still need to do their part. The purpose of this operation is to make it easier for them.

    If high-ranking members of the Cabal need to have proof that Operation Stardust 2 is real, this proof can be arranged.

    I would still suggest them to surrender before the Event takes place or even during the Event itself. Those that surrender and cooperate with the Light forces will be treated with much more forgiveness.

    I would also like to stress that most of the members of the Cabal families are not guilty and need healing, not condemnation. As you can read in this brave report:

    http://iamstasha.blogspot.com/2012/0...ckefeller.html

    I would encourage other beings in similar position to come forth with their confessions. I will give space in my blog for their expression. This will be healing for many.

    As I have said many times, I do not know when the Event will happen. No human being knows, only our Source does.

    Yes it can happen in a few days. But no guarantees. I have been given intel years ago that the deadline is April 2012. Now it is June. The only thing I know 100% is that it WILL happen. I will report the events as they unfold.
    PS, the mission name and my gifted pen name are merely coincidental.

    PPS, Cabal targeted chemtrail revenge! The plot thickens...
    As predicted by another poster or two within the last few days - we now have "The Event" to wait for (so this thread will live on...) and the good thing about "The Event" is that... there is no date!!!

    Brilliant... this allows all the time in the world for additional donations. Brilliant!

    Can I set up recurring donations via Paypal? I sure hope so!

    Thanks Cobra you sneaky snake!

    (note: as long as I am able to post, that means my central nervous system has remained unblocked and thus that must mean I am NOT one of THEM - WoW! happy dance time...)

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    Quote Posted by danceblackcatdance (here)
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    the same Pleiadians Truman Cash discusses and has had experience with?
    I don't believe Truman said they came from the Pleiades

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    However, this does not necessarily mean that the SSPs come from the Pleiades. I have no idea where they come from.
    Then you did not read Truman's Eye of Ra. He specifically states throughout the over 100 page document that one of the ET groups he has dealt with were the SSPs - The Serpent Staff Pleiadeans... and guess what they did?
    justoneman, i understand that you're tired of hearing about this so am sorry to bring this up again a few pages later

    but i have read the Eye of Ra, and i specifically asked Truman and posted his response above

    he said he has no idea if the SSP's were from the Pleiades...


    Then why does Truman refer to the Pleiadians over 140 times in the Eye of Ra?

    But let's play the game here...

    Do the current "good guy" Pleiadians come from the Pleiades? Did they bring birth certificates like Obama?

    Because they appear to be "good guys" to third parties you trust does that mean you have as much confidence that they actually do come from the Pleiades as Truman did at certain points in time in his incarnative experiences?

    Recall in Truman's Eye of Ra when Truman was Ramses II he believed they were from the Pleiades. It is only in his recent experience that he states what is obviously true about any off planet entity, real or imagined... that being we don't really know for sure where any of these beings actually come from.

    From the Eye of Ra -

    "For example, a person who is being abducted by Grays this lifetime may have been contacted in a past life by a human-looking ET group called Pleiadians."

    So I concede your point that the SSPs that Truman refers to may have been liars and very possibly not from the Pleiades.

    And I am glad to know that the "good guy" ETs are being truthful that they are actually from the Pleiades.

    Yet in both cases, someone is taking the word of another incarnated spirit being. And we are all taking the word of these sources. Something suggests to me that I am taking an unnecessary risk here as "the Plan" appears to be the same exact technique of creating the belief amongst humanity in a "good guy" / "bad guy" dynamic. The actual point I have been trying to make in may last dozen posts which few seem to catch.

    This seems to be no different than the Egyptian / Hittite story in Truman's Eye of Ra e-book.

    Is this point getting through yet?

    Another series of questions to consider...

    Where do you come from? Do you come from the physical location where the physical body you currently inhabit is from? Or do you come from the last implant station your soul was held? Or do you come from source as a child of creation?

    When are we going to accept all life within creation are children of source and thus in one way or another a sister or brother? Why I suggest this is because if we could actually accept this possibility, it may then be possible to transcend our susceptibility to aligning with side A or side B in a third party's loosh farm complex.

    Note: I have completed my personal process of freeing my spirit from the grips of the matrix and thus have found myself in a new realm where there resides no "them"... only "us."
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    After the last few pages of this thread (that I only skimmed, because I only come here to look for updates or to post updates) I wanted to post this image.

    I also want to again thank those that post updates...thank you!

    I know that the title of this thread is "Drake: Updates, clarifications and more". The only clarification that means anything to me is my own clarification therefore I have no need for the more either, especially the critical more.

    Much love to us all!!
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    combination with the Positive Military action, this basically check-mates the power of the Cabal. This technology will NOT be activated before the Event. At the Event, the Positive Military and civilian authority will still need to do their part. The purpose of this operation is to make it easier for them.



    Well there you go. Someone wasn't doing their part.

    See when a zillion ufos come warming out of the sky, and anyone with just one cell of cabalastic intention suddenly freezes in their tracks people at large are of course going to immediately know what part they are to play in all of this. (Don't think for one instant they will all be gap-jawed and frozen in place themselves--they will instantly 'know' they have some part to play in all of this)

    And these brings up the next question. After you freeze someone's central nervous system rendering them harmless what exactly do those on the ground, what does the civilian authorities and Barney military, need to be prepared to do? Waste removal? Shoot the cabal in the back as they remain in stasis? Wrap them up and use them for next year's freezer meat?

    Pile them into court so they can sit motionless and not respond to any hearing or examination?

    I would be checking out the plastic action in their wallets I bet they are carrying some heavy duty line of credit in there. What's in YOUR wallet, laddie! Then I'd be making some serious ass waves with all that plastic , round two of the greatest case of identity theft ever. Within a day the Pentagon would be the largest organic hydroponics facility on the face of the earth. I have vision though and aren't told what to wait to do. I would decide what part I played in this whole thing and if the aliens didn't like they could 1) Kiss my arse 2) remember WHOSE planet they are on. Robinhood would have nuthin over on me (and of course I'm not greedy, you can have a card or two or three---spending other people's money is such fun)


    What do you need to be ready for, and what part do you plan when you are dealing with thousand of cabalists in suspended animation. I mean if you've gone that far to fly a zillion light years across the galaxy, chemtrailed the cabalists motionless, you can't take the last little step , that last little part, but the authorities on the ground (who will of course know where the cabalists are frozen at--in elevators, in bed, at the bottom of the ocean as they scuba dive) have to somehow come in a put what is the equivalent of hanging a picture on the wall on moving day?

    A stop gap measure is , as ALWAYS needed, when our little plan falls apart: The Barney Military and Civilian Authorities weren't in place. The lamest of flimsiest contingencies.

    As always.

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    This is not creation of the future. The future is created now by one's own ability to create not by allowing pseudo leaders and gurus to make one up for them.

    You are not creating your future. Someone else is creating a story for you to step into. No one would have ever thought 2012 was a significant year until someone came along and told them. You'd be completely uninvolved in this scenario until someone told you 'this is the way it is'.

    Wilcoks attempted to invite people into his Ascension 2000 reality (fail) and now again in 2012. Because those are not created realities they didn't and won't come to reality. Those are manufactured stories that have nothing to do with the creation of the future. Saying something will happen in the future is not creating a new reality in the now.

    This is not Your future reality that you are creating, although you'd like to peddle that you know something about the creation of reality a computer generated graphic with a catchy slogan on it is not a self realization tool. Someone is creating a reality based on how they want it to be and you by agreement for-sook your own ability to create a future reality for yourself and decided to allow someone else to manage the creation of your reality. The future is spun in the now, not by calendar dates.

    That is not what sovereign people do. That is what followers do.

    The people who are actually creating a future reality that has anything remotely to do with Drake are the one's who are refusing his story, as 'not their future reality"

    As well they should, everyone has their own future reality to create in the now. Some will take the lead and do so and some will only be led.


    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    After the last few pages of this thread (that I only skimmed, because I only come here to look for updates or to post updates) I wanted to post this image.

    I also want to again thank those that post updates...thank you!

    I know that the title of this thread is "Drake: Updates, clarifications and more". The only clarification that means anything to me is my own clarification therefore I have no need for the more either, especially the critical more.

    Much love to us all!!

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    That's what the "cabal" has been doing all along... like real pros. All of it in spite of millenia of prayers, positive thinking, doing and projecting against their deeds.

    Just think how many years 9-11 has been in the planning in order to create the intended effect that was all benefits for them.
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    In contemplating the "frozen nervous system" possibility, it occurred to me that by the imposition of one's will upon another being in that fashion would result in the stoppage of all the bodies functionality, including the involuntary bodily functions such as the beating of the heart and the breathing of the lungs. Sounds like murder to me and perhaps a cruel one at that as there may be moments where the being realizes what has happened to it and where it will lead.

    BUT, since it is being done by the "good guy ETs" then it makes it all ok to murder folks in this way!!! Yipee, a loophole! Yes!

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    When/If "they" start rounding up innocent civilians and executing them in fema camps and Drake and Cobra tells you that they must be "guilty by association" with the cabal, and that the only evidence of their guilt is because Cobra says so because he heard voices in his/her head, supposedly channeled from/by the "good" ET's, that they ARE guilty, will this be acceptable?????

    This is a very dangerous game these people are playing in my opinion. If a scenario like I just mentioned above comes into being, it will pit well meaning people like us against each other instantly, much much worse than what you are seeing in this thread.

    ...and who's to say that Cobra really isn't David Wilcock himself? with a new website "Portal2012", which in all sense mirrors his divinecosmos site pertaining to subject matter/topic, yet taking his (or someone else's) vision / agenda a step further?

    Personally I think the nano particles have become activated in many people and they are not the cabal members, they have been activated in many average people in order to brainwash them into believing that they can see or hear anything with extreme clarity when what they are actually seeing or hearing has no clarity what so ever.... particularly, psyops programs like this Drake Wilcock Cobra Fulford one....

    I know I said I was going to stay away from this thread, but I thought this was a few important points to make.......and I am still slowly weaning myself away from this thread in some extent.
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    And.....It will be so acceptable that Cobra and Drakes adherents who can't find their arses with both hand will be coaxed into thinking they are warriors themselves and end up with bloody holes directly on their foreheads when they impose their assholery on people who know better. "This can't be all bad though with St. David hovering over it all giving his benediction."

    Whatever the hell Drake and Company have corded themselves into is certainly infectious amongst the fan club. Clever , they were able to meld into two previously seperate camps the militia minded and the Wilcocks 'lite' workers.

    The more I watch this thread and the mindsets of the ra ra cheerleaders who haven't a clue beyond the 'feel good' aspect of it all, the more I see a cabalistic program on it's own being initiated among the ignorant....mirroring precisely how the ptb operates---ultimately they are the ones who are going to be harmed by it. One already seen what happened when one fringe participant convinced himself he was a warrior..

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    When "they" start rounding up innocent civilians and executing them in fema camps and Drake and Cobra tells you that they must be "guilty by association" with the cabal, and that the only evidence of their guilt is because Cobra says so because he heard voices in his/her head, supposedly channeled by ET's, that they ARE guilty, will this be acceptable?????
    This is what happens whenever any society arrests people without a judgment conducted by a fair and unbiased court of law. Innocent people get killed.

    Everybody has the right to defend themselves in a courtroom, when facing any charges; no exception!

    Who is Drake or Cobra to judge anyone? We don´t even know their real names! We know nothing about their lives, their pasts. NOTHING!

    I wouldn´t be surprised at all if Drake or Cobra show up to be certain well known alternative media characters...Who was the first person to mention Drake? If you don´t know, you should. Is this person reliable? No, it isn´t; at all.

    If this plan was real, which I´m 99.99% that isn´t, it would be a huge humanitarian throwback, sending us right back to the dark ages, when people used to lynch and torture other people without proper judgment.

    It´s time to wake up folks. The FEMA camps are already there and not to imprison the "cabal" members...

    Raf.
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    Yeah unnerving thought to have people with such lack of discernment thinking they should be running the world's affairs.

    We would end up with the new boss same as the old boss. Fortunately none of this **** is going to come to pass and is just another excercize in mocking the ptb and its unwittingy pawns.

    The fact that people WANT this sort of scenario to come to pass is what I find disturbing but that's not news. I've always been disturbed by this. Who am I sharing my world with? People who haven't a shred of discernment or even any SELF respect.

    There is not a new world that can be created by using the old methods of construction. The ptb can only repeat, and improvise on what they've already replicated which gives one a clue as to what is at the underlying foundation of this nonsense.

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    The cabal: "Let's invest trillions in making secret camps to imprison ourselves in when the aliens land!"

    With the stupid **** that the government spends our money on I could nearly believe that....but I don't.

    The cabal: "Let's invest trillions in making secret work camps to imprison the Mortgage Foreclosure Disenfranchised and Jobless--the very conditions that we created. those ****ing slacker workers are useless now, let's get them back to work!"

    That I could believe.

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    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    The cabal: "Let's invest trillions in making secret camps to imprison ourselves in when the aliens land!"

    With the stupid **** that the government spends our money on I could nearly believe that....but I don't.

    The cabal: "Let's invest trillions in making secret work camps to imprison the Mortgage Foreclosure Disenfranchised and Jobless--the very conditions that we created. those ****ing slacker workers are useless now, let's get them back to work!"

    That I could believe.
    Its people like us and militias that refuse silly programs like this one and many others that can not be easily manipulated and controlled that'll be the ones they seek first to throw in these camps....

    Recent legislation, specifically in the last decade is evidence enough for me that this Drake plan is not as real as the one put down on paper and is in a sense very real and also made legal to do.....the NDAA is a good example to read....

    Many people need to seriously think about this and stop looking at things from only one angle....what's more real? a bunch of ET's saving the world or what is right in front of your face everyday?
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    It's simple amazing how negative some people can be.
    It certainly isn't difficult to discredit these people when they provide no proof. Still, if the shoe was on the other foot and you were Drake, would you out your sources? No.

    We shall see... I'm not discrediting any of these people since it would be too easy. I'm just following a story. Some of you guys go our your way to discredit these people like it gives you some power or you feel this need to warn people. All I want to say is SO WHAT.

    If it's BS and I've listed to a bunch of nonsense, big freaking deal. No worse than listening to MSNBC, CNN or FOX News. Still, these people are doing an incredible job of just WAKING PEOPLE UP and I have no doubt at great risk to their well fare.

    The only thing I worry about is if they are work for the Cabal and are collecting all the names of the people in the resistance for the Cabal to shove in FEMA camps. Still, I don't get that feeling at all.

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    Should have put this in this section, rather than creating another Thread...

    David Icke Newsletter Preview: EMBEDDED IN HUMAN DNA …

    Jun 22, 2012



    … ‘COME AND SAVE ME’ …

    The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday

    A friend forwarded me an email this week and asked what I thought of the contents. I shook my head as I scanned the page because I had seen it all before many times.

    It was summarising, and providing links to, the claims of a ‘whistleblower’ who calls himself ‘Drake’, which is a form of duck. There was also a game in Olde England called ‘ducks and drakes’ dating from the 16th century in which flat stones were thrown across the water in a way that made them bounce before sinking. It is known today as ‘skimming’. Or is it ‘scamming’?

    The term ‘playing ducks and drakesbecame a metaphor to describe behaviour that was irresponsible, reckless, and involved ‘squandering wealth or throwing away something of value’. There are other common phrases inspired by ducks, including sitting duck and lame duck. I also see that the word ‘duck’ derives from the Old English dūce , or ‘diver’, a derivative of the verb dūcan, which means ‘to duck, bend down low as if to get under something, or dive.’

    Put the two together and you get the phrase to ‘duck and dive’. It all seems rather appropriate to me when I read the claims and assertions of ‘Drake’ and his predominant promoter, David Wilcock, along with those of Benjamin Fulford. Wilcock and Fulford operate in the field of conspiracy research with Wilcock in America and Fulford in Japan.

    I am not suggesting that either of them, or even the anonymous Drake, know that what they are promoting is all a scam, but a scam it is from where I am looking. They may know, but I am not saying that they do because I have no idea. My feeling, however, is that, amazingly, at least Wilcock and Fulford don’t know. If ‘Drake’ doesn’t know that what he and the other two say is nonsensical then he is not in control of his own mind so ridiculous are his statements – and theirs …

    Fulford says that something called the ‘Gnostic Illuminati’ and the ‘White Dragon Society’ are going to arrest the leaders of the Global Cabal and release funds to end world poverty. They have given the Cabal a deadline (actually deadline after deadline after deadline) to give themselves up or else. But they never do and there is never any ‘or else’. Fulford wrote in February, 2012:

    Quote ‘The group that claims to have started the American, French and Russian revolutions state they have issued a March 31st deadline to the committee of 300 [said to be part of the Rothschild control structure], according to their spokesman “Alexander Romanoff.” In addition, Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth.’
    Would this be the same Queen and royal family which, having failed to report to the local constabulary to say ‘it’s a fair cop, guv’ within Fulford deadline after deadline, somehow managed to appear day after day this month amid orgiastic mass public worship during the Diamond Jubilee rituals in which they were protected by enough troops, silly uniforms notwithstanding, to invade a country? I do believe it would.


    ‘Is that one of your white dragon thingies, young man?’

    ‘Yes sir, I am taking over from granny, sorry, Her Majesty.’

    ‘Don’t be silly – now go home to bed and you are having no tea, you have been a very naughty boy.’


    http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/word...-in-human-dna/

    PS - Can't argue with that article, with a little humour thrown in for good measure...

    Big Fan of the 'attached Top' picture aswell - Lets see what we have here in 'Clockwise' order...
    • The 'Guru'
    • ET 'Saviors'
    • The 'Calvary' & of course...
    • The 'Duck'
    Quack - Quack....
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    There's no reason to imprison the sheep, who are safely imprisoned in their own minds, under someone elses control, buying into someone elses story, they've just set down the story that the cabal had previously fed to them and picked up the lighter, more positive aspect of it. The mean controllers will go away, and be replaced with nice ones.

    I'd have to agree that Drakes followers are no threat to the ptb whatsoever.

    "Yes some secret Dudley Do-right aspect of the DOD has been covertly building workcamps with cabal's funds to put the cabalists in. And how covert are these camps if people see them out in broad daylight."

    People who have the clarity to see through this **** will be rounded up (or at least the attempt made) and the sheep will stand by without a peep because someone will tell them the clear minded are the cabalists. That's what they want to hear because they won't have these annoying people standing around telling them they are digging their own graves with their own stories ....and greed.

    *************

    The AWOBO's a new race developing right before our eyes.


    This isn't about good and evil its about greed and decency and when any story appeals to a person's sense of greed (we're going to get YOUR gold back) , we are going to release a bunch of funds back (?) to you, we are going to execute those bad guys who put a limit to your credit card spending, we're going to slap the hands of those people who make you pay back what you borrowed on their terms, when you full well knew you were playing into the terms of a group of very corrupt people.

    You slept with the devil now you want to abort the baby.

    We ****ing knew it. Some of us woke up to that ****, and said I ain't playing the game anymore. Now that the game has ensnared the witless the witless want to draw arms and shoot all the other players not even realize they were just coaxed into a big game.

    So you played the ptb game and took out a mortgage, and maxed out your credit cards, and bought a corporate vehicle with the lease renewable by the ptb.

    "These guys have got to go, because I have to pay taxes"

    Well quit ****ing paying the taxes then you dimwit.

    You got in their game and then cried foul when you didn't like the rules of THEIR game which they determined because its THEIR game. You walked right into that game and you knew it when you signed on the dotted line.

    Yes we ALL did that. But someone us "woke" up to the game.

    Now you want some alien to come down and wipe out what is basically a universally known and neutral condition about energy. You get in the greed game there's energetic reciprocation, yes the ptb want's their return three fold (interest), but YOU KNEW THAT. Does your greed in any way pale in comparison to theirs?

    At some point in the past some annoying pest such as myself attempted to tell you that but you went and got the mortgage, the car, the credit cards, the whole shebang and you whined when someone thing tried to curb you. Now suddenly its a whole new ballgame. You don't really 'owe' in spite of the fact you willfully signed a contract. Life is all about agreements and contracts made on the physical level and the energetic level and now you want to renege on an agreement that YOU made, without first understanding the nature of how you came to make that agreement in the first place. That you are ignorant to agreements.

    No I don't want to understand how I made that agreement just shoot them all! No don't tell me anything that will self empower me, call down the little green men, and shoot them all!

    You don't want to have the power to evaporate contracts you want someone else to be responsible for the contracts you made. You'd rather have random faceless people executed because you willfully do not want to take your power back and be responsible for the contracts you made.

    And you have to ask why I don't respect you? Yes you do. And you still won't understand why I don't.

    And you people think you should be 'responsible' for how the world's affairs are managed. Yes you'd dick-dack into yet another agreement or contract make by those who are far more clever than your dumb asses, the very same ilk that maneuvered your clueless asses into the previous set of agreements you don't want to take responsibility for. You have the power to evaporate your own assholery but NO.....let some off planet entity take care of my mess for me.

    When all it takes is a few minutes of self reflection to unbind an agreement . You don't want to be responsible for your own agreements yet..I should trust you? I don't respect you, you're a proven re-neger, who is too lazy to figure out how you got yourself in this mess, too lazy to figure when the universe is wall papered with the means to rid yourself of these agreements, yet I should trust you? To decide in the world's fate?


    Oh hell no, let's blow those nastly bastards off the face of the earth so we can hide the fact that we were too stupid to play their game, too lazy to figure out our role in that game, even as we plop ourselves down in another that is just like it.

    Greed. That gold is coming back to us it was ours. Like hell it was , where did that gold come from. I'm not missing a metric ton of gold from under my mattress, if that gold is going back to where it came from its going back to the earth. The chasm from whence it came. The earth compells us to return to the vault which we have demonstrated we shoudn't have in our greedy grubby little hands.

    Greed: "My ego craves attention".

    Greed: "This makes me look like a swell person without having to go through all that self empowerment and self realization bull****. "

    Greed: "I can have it all without responsibility or self management."

    Lazy, greedy, self deceptive.

    And you WONDER why I don't kiss your arse and make agreements with you.

    Because you aren't responsible for them.

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    Quote Posted by justoneman (here)
    To Stardust and Avocadess - One might "just be reporting" but in reporting you are supporting and that includes the "executions" component.
    That is clearly your opinion and is 100% baseless in my reality. You are welcome to bury your head in the sand like an Ostrich, but that doesn't mean that the reporting and/or potential actions will go away. I didn't make any of this up or even suggest its potential as a solution. Yet you continue to project some pseudo form of moral superiority over others without any basis for doing so. Based on your point of view, anyone during WW2 that was reporting on Hitler would then be an automatic supporter of his evil ways. Well, I call that SUPER BS! I know you mean well and clearly do not support such measures, but don't think for a second that you can shoot the messenger in order to make the message and/or actions go away. There are many ways to make something change by shifting energies, but assigning false blame is not one of them!

    In this instance you are JustPlainWrong!
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    Quote Posted by foreverfan (here)
    It's simple amazing how negative some people can be.
    It certainly isn't difficult to discredit these people when they provide no proof. Still, if the shoe was on the other foot and you were Drake, would you out your sources? No.

    We shall see... I'm not discrediting any these people since it would be too easy. I'm just following a story. Some of you guys go our your way to discredit these people like it gives you some power or you feel this need to warn people. All I want to say is SO WHAT.

    If it's BS and I've listed to a bunch of nonsense, big freaking deal. No worse than listening to MSNBC, CNN or FOX News. Still, these people are doing an incredible job of just WAKING PEOPLE UP and I have no doubt at great risk to their well fare.

    The only thing I worry about is if they are work for the Cabal and are collecting all the names of the people in the resistance for the Cabal to shove in FEMA camps. Still, I don't get that feeling at all.

    FF
    Kudos to you, foreverfan.

    NOw that david icke has deposited his poopoo in with the naysayers, does it prove that he is a shape-shifting lizard whose soul should be sent to the central sun for refreshing ?

    And does it also lend credence to the theory that him or other reptoid clones are posting often in this thread?

    I suspect it does....

    All humans with real souls can simply put these shape-shifters on ignore, like I have done and continue to do. It's the only tool we have, and it works quite well, and it makes you feel empowered. If they ever post anything remotely interesting, some human may quote it, in which case you can still see it there.

    Power to the people (not reptoid clones)

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