Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
... will Drake's followers then finally see what sort of man they're supporting?

no

[Ishtar]

In which case, Paul, I may just have to lift my self-imposed ban on using the "L" word and Drake in the same sentence.

[onawah]

This interview covers many topics such as HAARP, Fukushima, his new book "Alienated Nation" that discusses the Sovereignty of the United States and declaring a constitutional convention, the STUXNET virus, the Horizon Project, among other topics.

Dr. Agnew is an author of more than a 100 articles and papers on subjects ranging from radiation spectroscopy to transdimensional movement through spacetime and theories regarding fields of advanced mathematics and physics. Dr. Agnew was a featured scientist in the 1997 Wendy Robbins documentary on HAARP. He holds multiple patents in chemistry and also teaches mathematics at Gaston College in North Carolina.

Dr. Agnew has conducted over 30 years of combined research in advanced spectroscopy and providing invaluable contributions to several research organizations. He is currently heading up plans for a North Pole expedition this July for scientific research.

Dr. Agnew has co-authored two landmark publications on the creation of the earth, The Ark of Millions of Years, Volumes One and Two."

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
I think everyone will want to hear this interview with Brooks Agnew, which is fascinating on many levels.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...397#post511397

Can you give a hint about what it's about?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
... will Drake's followers then finally see what sort of man they're supporting?

no

Sadly I feel the same way, after over 2 months and they still won't allow themselves to at least consider some of the other possibilities or see one single thing from more than one angle, I'd say that the spell has taken it's toll for many and they are right where they were intended to be...

[gripreaper]

From Lady Dragon's website:

About LadyDragon

Internationally known over 175 countries as the woman expert of the industry because of LadyDragon in depth knowledge on all the facets of the industry which include the PC, the Video and the Wireless. Now with the new Xbox 360 that just came out and the PlayStation 3 coming to the market to choose from plus with the PC upgrading all the time and adding more hardware and accessories to play with not counting that everything is moving to become wireless people all over the world relies on her expertise in order to get the true facts and information that they need for their purchases or their knowledge.

Since now everything or anyone that is successful will become or be in a game sooner or later LadyDragon brings you powerful interviews like the one with Dalene Kurtis and Craig Lieberman from the Fast and Furious movie and the 2 exclusives with Joanie Laurer formerly know as Chyna from the WWF ( World Wrestling Federation).

Plus special report like being at the Playboy Mansion when Playboy unveiled their new video game

LadyDragon takes great pride in discovering new products, companies and people that are unknown and giving them a chance to be heard like the company Strategy First then was not known but now Strategy First is known as one of the best company in the world who develops strategy games.

http://www.ladydragon.com/news2012/17061201.html

The bold emphasis is mine.

I had no ides Lady Dragon has such a fantastic resume! She is the EXPERT on video games, which are 90% all about killing and warfare. And she has been to the Playboy mansion too!

How did I miss that? Why would I question that she is the liaison for Cobra and the Pleiadians who are sprinkling Stardust 2 on the cabal to render their nervous systems inoperable and kill them?

Silly me...

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

I had no ides Lady Dragon has such a fantastic resume! She is the EXPERT on video games, which are 90% all about killing and warfare. And she has been to the Playboy mansion too!

How did I miss that? Why would I question that she is the liaison for Cobra and the Pleiadians who are sprinkling Stardust 2 on the cabal to render their nervous systems inoperable and kill them?

Silly me...

It also amazes me that the most devoted believers and followers have no desire or ambition to investigate these characters and just accept them as legit, or 100% telling the truth. They dismiss any solid findings of questionable behavior or actions as negative reporting etc....

Very "cult" like.....

They won't believe for a second anything that makes a little common sense but will swallow outrageous claims that even sci-fi Hollywood hasn't even thought up yet.......hmmm...

[SilentFeathers]

I've made up my mind to what this all is.....see ya next Sunday, same bat time, same bat thread!

I'm done here again for a while

PS: I'll be back next sunday to chime in some more of my "negativity"

[promezeus]

Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages (earth humans) have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem, and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

It’s called Stockholm Syndrome, and I think it explains most of the unreasonably negative posts here by the same people, as well as their derisive laughter which actually reveals even deeper, neurotic programmming. These posters are scared to death to open themselves to the possibilities because unconsciously, they think they may have something to lose. They have spent their life selling their souls to the same system and cabal that the ‘plan’ wants to eliminate. They thought they had already negotiated a good faustian bargain a long time ago, and this uncertainty or even unraveling was just not part of the bargain.
In order to keep from seeing this side of themselves, they must clamor for others to join them in their self-righteousness. It’s all about saving themselves and their ego. What they call personal sovereignty, I would call deep denial. They know how to play the game.... the faustian game. These 3d aligned folks may get to continue their journey on another 3d planet.

[Unified Serenity]

Listen at 55:55 to what Brooks Agnew says, and see the difference in Drake and Brooks ideas. They are similar sounding in the constitutional convention. 40 states have filed paperwork. We seem to be close to fixing the mess we are in.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_lb9_s-AWGQ

[marique3652]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
Thanks for the link, Peace.

Here's an extract that struck me.

BACK TO THE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC



It’s very simple to understand the propaganda mechanism. Have two diametrically opposed sides of an argument, argue, then when the subjects of the propaganda are frustrated enough with the dialogue, offer the solution to the problem. Therein lies the performances being put forward by members of the “Light Workers” and “Patriot” Movements.

Who is driving the dialectic? Major media channels. It would seem that the fantasy world being purported by the unwitting dupes within the Light Worker/Patriot movement community have served their purpose well for those in charge of the money supply and world governance.

We have not been able to find out who has been propagating the origins of the myths surrounding those folks doing the “channeling”, as it were, by what it appears quite succinctly, is that there is a mass delusion taking place, aided by the Internet using sympathetic websites, and the use of You Tube videos. This delusion from all appearances is one of the largest we’ve ever witnessed.

I so agree with you Ishtar. I too believe there is a mass delusion being perpetrated, have felt that all along, and have taken a lot of floggings on many sites due to my feeling that all is not at all what it is being presented as. Nothing new under the sun really though. The good guys vs the bad guys scenario is being pushed on us, and everyone is choosing sides, which is just what is desired by those manipulating the masses. While everyone is arguing who are the "good guys" and who are the evil archenemies and what is to be done about it all, a third variable is working behind the scenes laughing their butts off at how easy it is to manipulate us.

I feel in my bones that something is building to a crescendo, not something wonderful and life changing such as mass ascention 2012, but rather something that we are NOT going to like and is not going to be at all beneficial. Not sure who or what is going to be doing that something insidious in nature, I just have this feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are being cleverly hurded in a direction which at a certain point we are going to be very disillusioned and wondering how on earth we could have been lead so skillfully to the point of no return with a very bad outcome for humanity.

Don't want to sound "doom and gloomish" here, but when everyone talks about how grand things are going to be soon (any day now as the GLF channelers say and have been saying for the past 30 years or so), how we are all going to ascend to the 5th dimension, yadda, yadda, yadda, with wonderful space bretheren leading us to a wondrous new existence, I do not see that as what is going to happen. Wish it was, but my intuition tells me that simply is not going to happen, it is all smoke and mirrors. So when GLF channelers like Sheldan Nidle and other channelers of Pleiedians, and chanellers of a host of off planet species tell us we must go into their ascention chambers or go upon their ships to be relocated to another planet because we will be unable to survive earth changes coming up "soon", or guided underground to a wonderful place with all loving all knowing inner earth beings who simply addore us and just want us to be eternally happy, I will NOT be going.

I will take my chances staying with mother earth on the surface and will not be aided to leave my three D body in some alien's chamber who says it is for my own good, and if I die in the process oh well, been there done that twice (I have had two NDEs under my belt now where I was clinically dead and medically revived). Where ever it was that I "went" was glorious and quite frankly I did not want to come "back". That is the ascention that I see for myself in the future, and that is ok by me.

[marique3652]

LOL! Sorry I cannot help but laugh at your comment Gripreaper, in a happy glad you said it sort of way....too funny, love it!

[LarryC]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)

I had no ides Lady Dragon has such a fantastic resume! She is the EXPERT on video games, which are 90% all about killing and warfare. And she has been to the Playboy mansion too!

How did I miss that? Why would I question that she is the liaison for Cobra and the Pleiadians who are sprinkling Stardust 2 on the cabal to render their nervous systems inoperable and kill them?

Silly me...

It also amazes me that the most devoted believers and followers have no desire or ambition to investigate these characters and just accept them as legit, or 100% telling the truth. They dismiss any solid findings of questionable behavior or actions as negative reporting etc....

Very "cult" like.....

They won't believe for a second anything that makes a little common sense but will swallow outrageous claims that even sci-fi Hollywood hasn't even thought up yet.......hmmm...

Who exactly are these cultlike "devoted believers and followers?" It's easy to be simplistic and label people you don't agree with. Calling something a cult has also become fashionable. Anything can be like a cult -a nation, religion, belief system, forum, etc. I'm a member of the Facebook page where Drake sometimes posts, and there's plenty of doubting and disagreements there. I see very little unquestioning belief or obedience.

I'm open to what people like Drake, Cobra, David Wilcock and so forth are saying, but I certainly don't see myself as a follower. In fact, people who use labels like this are often "followers" themselves -of their own egotism and simplistic thinking.

To me, mass arrests and the overthrow of the cabal is a possibility, not something I "believe" in -though I can't speak for how others feel, of course.

The naysayers in this thread remind me a lot of atheists who can't stop talking about religion. They are just as obsessed with God as those they oppose, and they enjoy looking down on those they see as naive and less intelligent.

Some of you would rather be right than free -and if we really do create our own realities, you may get your wish!

[Unified Serenity]

This guy, Brooks Agnew scares me.............

I like him!

[gripreaper]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
This guy, Brooks Agnew scares me.............

I like him!

OK US, I'm going to go listen to it, but it better not be about an Article 5 Convention, although that is the only remedy our forefathers put into the Constitution to remedy this situation. This "posits" an alert and involved electorate though, and that is not what we have. I'm scared sh1tless of the Article 5 Convention with the awareness of the electorate we have now.

[Unified Serenity]

No, it's a limited convention. You'll understand what he is proposing, it's simple and would be effective I think. I'm getting all goose bumpy. LOL

[Hervé]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
[...]

... it better not be about an Article 5 Convention, although that is the only remedy our forefathers put into the Constitution to remedy this situation. This "posits" an alert and involved electorate though, and that is not what we have. I'm scared sh1tless of the Article 5 Convention with the awareness of the electorate we have now.

Well, it is... but in a more structured way than the way Drake puts it... which might even be an attempt by the latter to derail what the former is doing.

Brooks Agnew knows what he talking about, Drake doesn't as he is being fed infos/disinfos.

[aranuk]

Posted by LarryC (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)

I had no ides Lady Dragon has such a fantastic resume! She is the EXPERT on video games, which are 90% all about killing and warfare. And she has been to the Playboy mansion too!

How did I miss that? Why would I question that she is the liaison for Cobra and the Pleiadians who are sprinkling Stardust 2 on the cabal to render their nervous systems inoperable and kill them?

Silly me...

It also amazes me that the most devoted believers and followers have no desire or ambition to investigate these characters and just accept them as legit, or 100% telling the truth. They dismiss any solid findings of questionable behavior or actions as negative reporting etc....

Very "cult" like.....

They won't believe for a second anything that makes a little common sense but will swallow outrageous claims that even sci-fi Hollywood hasn't even thought up yet.......hmmm...

Who exactly are these cultlike "devoted believers and followers?" It's easy to be simplistic and label people you don't agree with. Calling something a cult has also become fashionable. Anything can be like a cult -a nation, religion, belief system, forum, etc. I'm a member of the Facebook page where Drake sometimes posts, and there's plenty of doubting and disagreements there. I see very little unquestioning belief or obedience.

I'm open to what people like Drake, Cobra, David Wilcock and so forth are saying, but I certainly don't see myself as a follower. In fact, people who use labels like this are often "followers" themselves -of their own egotism and simplistic thinking.

To me, mass arrests and the overthrow of the cabal is a possibility, not something I "believe" in -though I can't speak for how others feel, of course.

The naysayers in this thread remind me a lot of atheists who can't stop talking about religion. They are just as obsessed with God as those they oppose, and they enjoy looking down on those they see as naive and less intelligent.

Some of you would rather be right than free -and if we really do create our own realities, you may get your wish!

Hear hear


Stan

[marique3652]

Posted by promezeus (here)
Cobra said rather profoundly, "Actually the hostages (earth humans) have been programmed to the point where many of them don't want to be liberated. That is quite a complicated problem, and we are trying to resolve this right now. "

It’s called Stockholm Syndrome, and I think it explains most of the unreasonably negative posts here by the same people, as well as their derisive laughter which actually reveals even deeper, neurotic programmming. These posters are scared to death to open themselves to the possibilities because unconsciously, they think they may have something to lose. They have spent their life selling their souls to the same system and cabal that the ‘plan’ wants to eliminate. They thought they had already negotiated a good faustian bargain a long time ago, and this uncertainty or even unraveling was just not part of the bargain.
In order to keep from seeing this side of themselves, they must clamor for others to join them in their self-righteousness. It’s all about saving themselves and their ego. What they call personal sovereignty, I would call deep denial. They know how to play the game.... the faustian game. These 3d aligned folks may get to continue their journey on another 3d planet.

So Prometheus you are making a judgement call that if someone thinks differently than you about Cobra or Drake or anyone similar promoting the "lets take the cabal down" scenario and thinks that these characters are unreliable and may be full of crap, that all those "detractors" are under the Stockholm Syndrome and are brainwashed to the point where you call them neurotically programmed? Humm interesting....I think that what you have said here smacks of arrogance and ego actually just like you accuse the detractors of. So someone wants to have facts based verifiable information that is not based on blind faith and not information from anonymous persons on the internet, that makes them neurotic in your book or programmed? I don't think so, in my humble opinion. Also last time I checked I still have a physical body just like you do so to poke fun at someone and call them 3D folk with disgust in your tone is quite the kettle calling the pot black don't you think? We ARE in the 3D world and like it or not that is what we are, 3D earth beings. Maybe you would like us to be something other than that but that is not currently the case. So maybe it would be nice for you to not go around saying condescending crap to those who simply do not buy into all the things that you believe or things that you feel we all should believe.

Actually your arguments here are ad hominem in nature and I am surprised how much I see this type of argument in the new age sites and community recently. Really odd that people who espouse love and light and enlightenment can get pretty nasty when a difference of viewpoint comes up. How odd indeed.

Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out percieved character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument (i.e., calling people 3D aligned with insulting intonation, or calling people programmed neurotics or self-righteous or accusing people of being in deep denial just because they do not follow the same thoughlines as you do or your alleged heros do.) This is logically fallacious because it relates to the opponent's personal character, which has nothing to do with the logical merit of the opponent's argument or disagreement with your beliefs. Insulting people and calling people negative names does not in the least prove that Drake, Cobra, and all of the leading characters talking about taking down the cabal are at all genuine, or have altruistic motives, no proof whatsoever. Your ad hominem attacks however do reflect on your character, and in no way bolsters anything else. Just my humble opinion. I am sorry that you feel you have to go on the attack. I certainly do not attack people, I just raise questions about belief systems and behaviors. I am not comfortable with passing blanket judgement on others, we each are entitled to our own feelings and opinions, and I am not too thrilled with yours but I respect your right to think and feel the way you do. I just question whether it is a kind way to deal with people. I believe that all persons should treat each other with respect no matter WHAT a person believes. I hope you do not find fault with that statement, but if you do that is your right.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by LarryC (here)
The naysayers in this thread remind me a lot of atheists who can't stop talking about religion. They are just as obsessed with God as those they oppose, and they enjoy looking down on those they see as naive and less intelligent.

Its wrong to call this "cult" like but perfectly okay to what you said above? (which is your right though just as much as mine to say what I think and feel too).

This "negativity" is coming on strong from both sides of the fence so to speak on this subject, another thing about this that disturbs me.

This whole subject matter breeds friction and division etc etc big time

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

This thread is now 110 pages long.

Could any of you explain why?

From what I can tell, it's because people who don't support any of this want to mock those who do and express their exasperation. Most of the posts in this thread are by naysayers who seem to post compulsively. Okay, we get it, you don't agree. No, really.....we've got it.