Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

This thread is now 110 pages long.

Could any of you explain why?

From what I can tell, it's because people who don't support any of this want to mock those who do and express their exasperation. Most of the posts in this thread are by naysayers who seem to post compulsively. Okay, we get it, you don't agree. No, really.....we've got it.

Yeap, I'm guilty.....I'm just as obsessed with not believing this stuff as some of those are that are believing it, hence; why I'm weaning myself away from this to some extent.....it's addicting for sure regardless what side the fence your on, for some of us anyways.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Breaking from Drake Chat.

HUGE protest in Mexico, major news blackout!!!

[edit]

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2012/0...dia-black-out/

That looks to be a link to an article about censorship, with the only mention I see of any action in Mexico being in the title "The Largest Public Protest Is Happening Right Now In Mexico ~ Total Media Black Out".

There is no blackout on this forum. I just spend a half hour scanning my various favorite news sources ... found exactly zero mention or details of this action, outside the above. If anyone knows anything ... spill the beans .

[Wind]

I wonder that when people will wake up. I stopped following David Wilcock after he said that there cannot be a New Golden Age without mass arrests. That sounds ridiculous, just think about it. Judgment doesn't happen that way, only we condemn ourselves.

Instead listen to people like Dolores Cannon. There will be a new wonderful world very soon and it is not up to us manifest it. You may not believe in it, because this world looks like a mess right now, but it doesn't matter. It will happen anyway, the universe will not wait anymore. Just have hope, it's all that we've got.

[9eagle9]

I'ts easy to say that the naysayers are followers themselves but you don't see them in other threads banging the drums of gurus, and whistleblowers and fiercely defending every babbling tell they tell. You may see expressed inspiration, anecdotes, agreements, debate over the virtues or vices of the same people but you don't see this adamant emotionally driven (I feel, exciting, etc) but adherence based on nothing but a bunch of stories that make people feel good and excited like they are in a movie.

Pretty evidential if one takes a quick look around who is an adherent and who knows how to use their own discernment and experience.

Posted by LarryC (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)

I had no ides Lady Dragon has such a fantastic resume! She is the EXPERT on video games, which are 90% all about killing and warfare. And she has been to the Playboy mansion too!

How did I miss that? Why would I question that she is the liaison for Cobra and the Pleiadians who are sprinkling Stardust 2 on the cabal to render their nervous systems inoperable and kill them?

Silly me...

It also amazes me that the most devoted believers and followers have no desire or ambition to investigate these characters and just accept them as legit, or 100% telling the truth. They dismiss any solid findings of questionable behavior or actions as negative reporting etc....

Very "cult" like.....

They won't believe for a second anything that makes a little common sense but will swallow outrageous claims that even sci-fi Hollywood hasn't even thought up yet.......hmmm...

Who exactly are these cultlike "devoted believers and followers?" It's easy to be simplistic and label people you don't agree with. Calling something a cult has also become fashionable. Anything can be like a cult -a nation, religion, belief system, forum, etc. I'm a member of the Facebook page where Drake sometimes posts, and there's plenty of doubting and disagreements there. I see very little unquestioning belief or obedience.

I'm open to what people like Drake, Cobra, David Wilcock and so forth are saying, but I certainly don't see myself as a follower. In fact, people who use labels like this are often "followers" themselves -of their own egotism and simplistic thinking.

To me, mass arrests and the overthrow of the cabal is a possibility, not something I "believe" in -though I can't speak for how others feel, of course.

The naysayers in this thread remind me a lot of atheists who can't stop talking about religion. They are just as obsessed with God as those they oppose, and they enjoy looking down on those they see as naive and less intelligent.

Some of you would rather be right than free -and if we really do create our own realities, you may get your wish!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

This thread is now 110 pages long.

Could any of you explain why?

From what I can tell, it's because people who don't support any of this want to mock those who do and express their exasperation. Most of the posts in this thread are by naysayers who seem to post compulsively. Okay, we get it, you don't agree. No, really.....we've got it.

I think some people just can't believe what they are seeing. And then can't believe that they are still seeing it two months later.

[Sebastion]

Whiskey, your brand of humor is just awesome......please keep it up!

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

This thread is now 110 pages long.

Could any of you explain why?

From what I can tell, it's because people who don't support any of this want to mock those who do and express their exasperation. Most of the posts in this thread are by naysayers who seem to post compulsively. Okay, we get it, you don't agree. No, really.....we've got it.

I think some people just can't believe what they are seeing. And then can't believe that they are still seeing it two months later.

[Referee]

Posted by NancyV (here)

Posted by Referee (here)
I want to believe Drake is telling the truth. I however, am skeptical. We have seen no signs of anything on MSM except for St Louis military build up. Which could be anything. My biggest problem with him is his use of incorrect grammar while speaking. It dosn't add up. I am troubled by the fact that these people could go this far with a story if it is not true. I am still on the fence and feel hopeful that this thing could happen For everyone sake Somethin Has To Happen. I am getting to the point of extreme frustration with the general public for not taking action and for our leaders to not take action. There is some piece of the puzzle we do not know some kind of threat that maybe very hard to stop something there holding over the heads of most nations. I just wonder what it is?

People in the government can not be this stupid to not see the soft kill, food medicine just about everything soft kills us.

I have been feeling very alone latley my girlfriend won't listen to anything I say. She tells me I am stupid to listen and monitor, and post alternative media. People just do not want to look at it. I think its calld Stockholme Syndrome.

After a year and a half on this forum I am growing in frustration. I try to post things that will awaken people. I have No Idea if it makes a difference. I need to do more possibly hand out dvd's everyday to people. Something more...............................

Frustrated Ref

I sure understand how you feel about Drake talking like a good ole boy hillbilly. Until I married my genius IQ husband who IS a hillbilly from West Virginia I was pretty much a snob. Ok, I'll be very honest here... I'm still somewhat of a snob when it comes horrible spelling, incorrect grammar and the use of "ain't, "cain't", "it don't matter nohow" and all the other colorful things these hillbilly's and okies love to say! But in the 17 years I've lived with my husband I've come to appreciate the irony of someone like me marrying someone like him. He knows perfectly well how to use correct English but he hearkens (or harkens, take your pick) back to his WV roots and the language used by his Irish coal miner and horse thief ancestors. I know God/Source has a great sense of humor putting me with him, so I can do no less than be appropriately amused. It is the perfect judgment for a spelling and grammar nazi (as my husband calls me) to fall in love with a hillbilly!

What I do find to be deliciously entertaining is how for so many years I knew so many new age types who didn't like or respect hillbilly's and okies, who HATED country music and who detest religions...except for the new age substitutes which are now religions in and of themselves. Now a large group of these types of people are listening to these good old boy militia, former military types, many of whom are quite religious in a bible thumping sort of way. Heck, I hated country music too and when my husband suggested we shop at Wal Mart for certain things, I was horrified! LOL... Now I see what an idiot I was and I am grateful for coming to see the beauty of country music (well, some of it), for being able to shop at Wal Mart occasionally.. and for coming to understand that correct grammar is not a demonstration of intelligence, only of intellectuality. Some highly intellectual people are also intelligent and wise, although many are shallow and ignorant.

As far as believing these people could get so detailed and sound so convincing if this story was a lie...people are capable of anything, absolutely anything. We humans are so easily fooled and we have an innate desire to trust others. It is one of our biggest weaknesses. I would love to trust Drake and the plan. It sounds like fun (that is if you like bloody chaos with people dying and the bad guys getting extinguished in the central sun by the ET's).

If you listen to all the details Drake has put out over the past couple of months and you see all the missed dates, the changes in his statements and the changes in the "plan", you have to come to the conclusion that the man is a liar or an idiot. All it takes is logic AND honesty. If someone has invested their BELIEFS in Drake, then they most often will be neither logical nor honest. The group supporting this "plan" have now taken on the trappings of a religion, a cult. Cultists will most often not listen to anyone who attempts to refute their beliefs no matter how logical their arguments are.

If you give up trying to change people you will also get rid of most of your frustration. I say what I want with no regard to the results. If someone wants to hear what I say, great. What they think of what I say, or what they think of ME is not my business. They are entitled to their opinions. I have no stresses because I can enjoy the show without being attached to results. I have no goals to change anyone in any way. They are free and sovereign beings whether they know it yet or not. If I thought everyone else should have my opinions, or talk like me, it would be the height of arrogance. It actually takes great compassion to allow others to be who they are. I also allow myself to be who I am...and that's a rather feisty, contrarian type who likes to play games occasionally.

PS to Avocadess: Thanks, but I'm not disturbed by the hostile posts talking about killing people, extinguishing their souls, fomenting revolution, getting your guns ready to kill your countrymen. I can handle it!

Do not get me wrong here I am from KY I understand about hillbilly speak. However serving for quite a while changes people and the way they speak. I do not know his full background but...

Thanks for your comments.

Giving up on trying to change people's opinion is like giving into them. IMO It is of upmost importance to awaken as many people you can as fast as possible.

Kind Regards,

Ref

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic (here)



I think some people just can't believe what they are seeing. And then can't believe that they are still seeing it two months later.

That's me for sure....it's completely boggled my mind to say the least.....I'll catch hell for saying this but it's insanity in some way shape and form, I have no doubt of this. I've tried for two months now to see sanity in this but can only see MOSTLY insanity.

[Kimberley]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Breaking from Drake Chat.

HUGE protest in Mexico, major news blackout!!!

All you have to do is google "protests in Mexico"

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Much love to us all!!!

Much love to us all, always in all ways!

[UnrealDreams]

They protest everything in Mexico. They protested furiously when certain states changed their laws regarding immigration. They are currently protesting the g20 summit and the media manipulation of the presidential elections. I have many Mexican friends in the States. They are hard working people who understand that if they don't stand up for their rights, they will lose them.

Democracy....use it or lose it.

[UnrealDreams]

How many people who are supporting Drake have called your congressman and demanded NDAA and Patriot Act be repealed?

How many have called your congressman and demanded that the bankers be held responsible for the mess they have made, the laws they have broken?

Don't you think if we are a nation of laws, this would be the proper step to take, rather than an illegal military action?

The arrest of criminals is a law enforcement issue, not a military issue.

Put down the mouse, put down the iphone and call your representantives and tell them what you want.

Democracy....use it or lose it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Kimberley (here)
All you have to do is google "protests in Mexico"

That produces the following: Mexico front-runner draws crowds, protests, which begins:

With a promise to "leave behind the practices of the old politics," Mexican presidential front-runner Enrique Pena Nieto held his first and only mass rally in Mexico City, the nation's capital, on Sunday, one week ahead of the July 1 presidential elections.

Pena Nieto sought to break with the reputation of his Institutional Revolutionary Party, known as the PRI, as the sclerotic, antiquated party that governed Mexico for 71 uninterrupted years, until it lost the 2000 elections.

Sounds to me like a political rally prior to an election. So ?

[9eagle9]

Better we have a couple of bored, vapidly empty hausfraus (and their unsubstantiated poster boys) who think they are playing some part in an action thriller movie planning my destiny than confront we may have Stockholm Syndrome.

Between the two i'd take the Stockholm, at least I'd have an interesting syndrome than be vapidly empty for no apparent reason.

[applecrusher1992]

Looks like Fulford put in a new deadline for us in the fall. Isn't that just great!!!!!!

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/


Hello,
A lot of people have been asking why the arrests do not take place. The answer is that the cabalists are surrounded by about 30,000 highly paid armed guards. Also, they control the US military and its nuclear arsenal. They have been trying to start WW3. It means we have a hostage situation and that requires patience as we slowly cut them off from their money.
That is the bad news.
The good news is that apart from the US and Europe, most of the rest of the world has already freed itself from their rule. Last week they promised $513 billion to help poor people and the environment. A few years ago that $513 billion would have been handed over, no questions asked, to the cabal.
We do not know when the final liberation of the US and Europe will take place but we are hoping for some good news in the autumn. In the meantime, keep to the moral high ground and do not give them any excuse to bully you. Then, if they do bully you, you can charge them with a crime. Good luck and rest assured that most of the rest of your long life you will be free.

[aranuk]

So what have we got here? We have a powerful Elite who control Banking, the Military Industrial complex. They control most politicians and governments, hence everything on the planet. They invade far away countries, start wars and murder men, women and children. We are slaves to these people who are less than 1% of the population.
What can we do to get them out of power? Voting them out doesn't work as they appoint the candidates.
Protesting doesn't budge them one way or another. Two million people demonstrated in London telling Blair No War. He went.
I would say there is little hope of changing towards anything worthwhile in Britain. We don't have guns.
Whilst the United States being the most powerful country in the world, both technologically, financially and military, the citizens at least have the right to own guns. This rule was written into the Constitution at the time when the Army had only guns and canons. This law evened the playing field and created a safety valve so the people would not or could not be slaves to the elected government.

The Elite command has a weapon which they use to their advantage and that is the Media. They own that too. As I see it, as long as they control the Media they have more than 50% of the people doing their bidding. The awakened people in USA will always be a minority until the Media is free.

The Tim Turner movement I think was a psy-ops. Maybe not.

I haven't seen or heard of any plan to correct this madness until Drake appeared on the scene.
This is why I am giving it all my hope and spiritual support.
After more than 800 FEMA camps have been built the Military, the Pentagon must know what they are for and who they are intended for. So the Military/Pentagon must know something is coming in the way of Marshall Law. I would think that there are many military officers who would not take kindly to such a thing. So there must be a plan sometime in the near future as to the carrying out of such a plan. To stress again: the only country in the world where a possible peoples freedom from the oppression of the cabal could happen is in the USA. That is why the FEMA camps have been built. The plan obviously is that when the people of USA get really pissed off and can take no more of their shenanigans that would be the time for Marshall Law to begin.

This in my mind is why Drake was asked by certain Pentagon sources to begin a preparation for this event. The timing is very important it seems. Drake needs lots of citizens to give him AND the white hats in the Pentagon support.
Why some people here at Avalon accuse others here of being gullible astounds me. I certainly at my age am not going to take on traits of gullibility when that is not part of my character. This project could in my mind fail for many reasons but I am not going to say what they are as walls have ears.

Support Drake and leave your ego's somewhere for safe keeping.

Stan

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Support Drake and leave your ego's somewhere for safe keeping.

Stan

I hear you Stan, but I think your sentence should be, "Support Drake and leave your brain and ego somewhere else."

I don't see any reason to believe or trust Drake. Now, the latest interview KC did with Brooks Agnew offers some ideas and a means to get control back away from the elites. About 55:00 into her interview with him he really layed out the plan. The other interview I posted covers a lot as well.

[LarryC]

It's easy to dismiss Fulford, but there are clues that some big things are happening around the world. And, as the posts about Mexico point out, we may not be hearing about a lot of it. YouTube and Google may be censoring many videos. Quite a few massive protests have been happening in Russia, Iceland, Mexico, Canada and other places just to name a few.

http://on.fb.me/LUIDvV

[jackovesk]

One other thing I've noticed here at Avalon...

Some of you have noticed a 'Big Turnaround' in the decreasing number of members posting here at Avalon...

...and one of the Reasons I believe is because the 'Guru Worshippers' have been 'Found Out' and honestly need to re-evaluate 'Why' they continually needed to believe in 'False Hope' provided by the likes of Drake, David Willcock, GFL & Ben Fulford, etc...

When they have invested so much of their time & belief into such Progenators and then realise its all just 'False Hope Balony', they (ALL) obviously needed to take a break and reassess themselves..!

The 'Others' are just waiting to see how it all plays out and will reconvene when they are good & ready...

[gripreaper]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
This guy, Brooks Agnew scares me.............

I like him!

Ok, listened to Brooks Agnew. I will say that the idea of discernment is getting to be a full time job.

In regards the Restoration of the Republic, Brook mentions 40 States who have filed Declarations of Sovereignty and have succeeded from being a part of the Corporate United States, which he refers to as a dictatorship and not a representative government. He claims that the Convention of 40 delegates could restore the Republic and go to a sales tax and repeal corporate income tax, and that would solve the problem.

I’ve spent the last five years and thousands of hours following the patriot movements, in local assemblies as well as the talkshoe circuit, and I’ve not heard of these Declarations or an effort to restore the Republic, other than Rap and RuSA. Although there was no mention of either of these, I wonder if Brook is aligned with these movements. It’s hard for me to imagine that I would not have heard of these Declarations outside of RuSA, although I am open to the possibility that I may have not.

He discusses the three Constitution Amendment deletions, by referendum of 40 delegates, by Convention. He goes over the deletions, and references the changes which occurred in 1932 and 1933, but makes no mention of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, or the Reconstruction Act of 1871, or the removed 13th amendment (titles of nobility) replaced, or the 14th amendment, which made us all corporate slaves after the civil war. He talks about adding 7 new amendments, which he covers some of them briefly.

Although these points addressed are certainly amicable, they do leave out a big portion of the story. I have not read his book, so I can’t really say if I’m on track about this or not, but it struck me as odd.

Then, he mentions Dimon’s testimony before congress and how Dimon said what’s a couple billion when we have 2.3 trillion of depositor’s funds. Brook mentions how these funds are not put to work. Does he not know that it is illegal to use depositor’s funds, to loan out? Under fractional reserve banking, the banks can create promises based on signatures, but they CANNOT loan depositors funds OR their own credit! He seems to endorse Romney too, which surprised me.

Then, the discussion trails off in regards to the Stuxnet software, and yet he knows nothing about PROMIS? There are too many holes from my point of reference. I’m looking for a new paradigm, not the restoration of some form of centralized control, with new players and new metals backed currency.

If anyone buys his book and reads it, let me know. I’m open to expanding my view on this.

[Unified Serenity]

From what I could gather he is not involved in any way with RuSA or Drake. He does not want a free for all Con Con, but a very limited one where specific amendments occur which puts the power back in the hands of the people particularly on a state level. Getting our national guard under the control of Governors and out from the Feds hands would go a long way. Our founding fathers wanted the states to be able to tell the Feds to shove it simply by having the national guard. Right now, they are over seas and they did not sign up for that duty.

I think he answered some things, but did not go into detail otherwise why buy the book?

Thanks for your post Grip.