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    On Ben Fulford's blog today (dated 26 June -- he's a day ahead of us in Tokyo):

    There is a lot of talk of arrests this week, notably from “Drake,” however, our direct sources cannot confirm this. As David Icke pointed out, this writer has in the past quoted sources claiming deadlines that came and went with nothing happening. That is why we no longer quote specific deadlines.
    From David Icke's page:


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    On Ben Fulford's blog today (dated 26 June -- he's a day ahead of us in Tokyo):

    There is a lot of talk of arrests this week, notably from “Drake,” however, our direct sources cannot confirm this. As David Icke pointed out, this writer has in the past quoted sources claiming deadlines that came and went with nothing happening. That is why we no longer quote specific deadlines.
    I'm surprised to hear Benjamin Fulford quoting David Icke, as in one of his most recent interviews Icke says that both Fulford and David Wilcock are misinformed (though he doesn't think they are deliberately lying). I like David Icke, but I certainly don't take his statements at face value either -he's gotten info from a very wide range of sources over the years. He also says the moon is an artificial satellite created to be a spy station for TPTB. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't believe it either, lol.

    Right now I'm watching and listening with an open mind, and not believing or disbelieving anyone 100%.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    _______

    On Ben Fulford's blog today (dated 26 June -- he's a day ahead of us in Tokyo):

    There is a lot of talk of arrests this week, notably from “Drake,” however, our direct sources cannot confirm this. As David Icke pointed out, this writer has in the past quoted sources claiming deadlines that came and went with nothing happening. That is why we no longer quote specific deadlines.
    I'm surprised to hear Benjamin Fulford quoting David Icke, as in one of his most recent interviews Icke says that both Fulford and David Wilcock are misinformed (though he doesn't think they are deliberately lying). I like David Icke, but I certainly don't take his statements at face value either -he's gotten info from a very wide range of sources over the years. He also says the moon is an artificial satellite created to be a spy station for TPTB. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't believe it either, lol.
    David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

    Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!. I believe he said it was a monitoring station for the ETs, which is not impossible to believe) -- here are a couple of interesting anecdotes from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

    She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" Apparently, she'd just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the report all by herself.

    She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced to her its existence in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

    She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she said. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by LarryC (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    _______

    On Ben Fulford's blog today (dated 26 June -- he's a day ahead of us in Tokyo):

    There is a lot of talk of arrests this week, notably from “Drake,” however, our direct sources cannot confirm this. As David Icke pointed out, this writer has in the past quoted sources claiming deadlines that came and went with nothing happening. That is why we no longer quote specific deadlines.
    I'm surprised to hear Benjamin Fulford quoting David Icke, as in one of his most recent interviews Icke says that both Fulford and David Wilcock are misinformed (though he doesn't think they are deliberately lying). I like David Icke, but I certainly don't take his statements at face value either -he's gotten info from a very wide range of sources over the years. He also says the moon is an artificial satellite created to be a spy station for TPTB. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't believe it either, lol.
    David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

    Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!. I believe he said it was a monitoring station for the ETs, which it's not impossible to believe) -- here are a couple of interesting anecdotes from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

    She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" Apparently, she'd just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the report all by herself.

    She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced to her its existence in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

    She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she said. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.
    I forget the source, but from what I've heard is that to say that it is 'hollow' is a bit of a stretch. It would be better to say, more factual to say, that it is cavernous, or catacomb-like, beneath its surface, as a result of how it was formed, i.e. caused by gases during a cooling period.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

    Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!) -- here's an interesting anecdote from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

    She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" She had apparently just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the information all by herself.

    She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced its existence to her in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

    She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she reported. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.
    hi Bill

    i was wondering how much credence you give to inelia's account that she

    1, paid a visit to the moon and saw that it was 'hollow'
    and
    2, visited dulce air force base?

    i'm just curious as to whether you believe those two things.

    the reason is, that to use the term 'hollow' seems slightly odd.

    for example, to us down here on earth, looking at the moon
    we have a limited understanding of it.
    knowing that it rang like a gong when they detonated explosives on it....
    led them to that conclusion, that it was hollow.
    a bit like a blind man tapping a drumstick on a football/

    it doesnt sound like the kind of term one who had actually been there would use.

    what we lack on earth, are the reasons and purpose behind the hollowing out.
    the nearest stable conclusion we (here on earth) can reach is that it is hollow. no more

    so why is someone who says she has been there,
    unable to provide more than we already sort of knew on earth?.

    i ask that hoping to avoid dragging up history.

    cheers

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    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    The moon is a giant geode and it's filled with pretty amethyst colors crystals.

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    David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

    Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!) -- here's an interesting anecdote from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

    She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" She had apparently just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the information all by herself.

    She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced its existence to her in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

    She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she reported. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.
    hi Bill

    i was wondering how much credence you give to inelia's account that she

    1, paid a visit to the moon and saw that it was 'hollow'
    and
    2, visited dulce air force base?

    i'm just curious as to whether you believe those two things.

    the reason is, that to use the term 'hollow' seems slightly odd.
    "Hollow" was the exact word she used. And yes, I'm convinced Inelia had that ability, for sure. How the got the information (whether she "visited" astrally -- which is what she said -- or whether she just remote viewed the two locations), I'm not qualified to answer.

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    David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

    Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!) -- here's an interesting anecdote from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

    She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" She had apparently just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the information all by herself.

    She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced its existence to her in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

    She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she reported. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.
    hi Bill

    i was wondering how much credence you give to inelia's account that she

    1, paid a visit to the moon and saw that it was 'hollow'
    and
    2, visited dulce air force base?

    i'm just curious as to whether you believe those two things.

    the reason is, that to use the term 'hollow' seems slightly odd.
    "Hollow" was the exact word she used. And yes, I'm convinced Inelia had that ability, for sure. How the got the information (whether she "visited" astrally -- which is what she said -- or whether she just remote viewed the two locations), I'm not qualified to answer.
    Hi,
    Respectfully, how can we use this as reliable data? I've always had a bit of a problem with remote viewing/astral projection, et al. Just don't see how it can be quantified or used/deemed reliable.

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    << Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!. I believe he said it was a monitoring station for the ETs, which is not impossible to believe)...>>

    I never read his book or watched his videos on that, so he probably didn't say exactly what I was paraphrasing above. I only browsed through the book where he discusses this, and read that the moon is an artificial construct and being used for harmful (to humans) purposes.

    This definitely requires a shift in mindset for anyone who was influenced by neo-paganism, which worships the moon as the embodiment of the divine feminine or Goddess principle. Of course, I know some people believe all new age and neo-pagan thinking is part of the conspiracy, which I don't totally buy into. But, unlike Inelia Benz, I've never been to the moon, so I'm open to learning more about it!

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    When I saw Mr. Icke in San Rafael, he spoke for about an hour on the moon being a massive mind control device exerting influence over us all.
    "We sit together, the mountain and me, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po

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    I hope Ishtar will forgive me for the hard time I gave her a few months back.
    Nothing to forgive, friend. We've all been finding our way through this mega-delusion, and ol' Drake even had me going for about the first two weeks.

    The core of it is the alien agenda, which is at the heart of all of our governments, and they've been weaving that dream for us like Joseph's Coat of Many Colours long before most of us were born. It's been a very heavy trip, and it's taken most of our lives to fight our way out of it. Some are still stuck in there... and we're here to help.

    In the upcoming years, it will be shown that most of us were born into a Freemason government-inspired opium dream, designed to make us fear 'them out there'. It's a formula that's been successful for millennia. Divide and rule, only usually the 'dem out there' are here on Earth. This time, they shot for the moon. The right hand glove puppet made us scared of 'dem out there' in outer space, with their nasty probes and abductions, and then the left hand glove puppet came in and told us that 'dem out there' were in fact the good guys now, 'long haired hippies from outa space' who had scared all the bad guys away. This is a tried and tested MKULTRA technique...by using the glove puppets alternately, they make their subjects so dizzy that they can no longer figure way which is up. I reckon that's why the channelling is sometimes so similar and sometimes so contradictory.

    So my generation were the baby boomers ... you've heard of us? This enormous population explosion that happened after the Second World War. What a huge audience they had to play with, to manipulate, to brainwash... and what fun they had weaving our dreams for us with psychedelic drugs supplied by the CIA.

    But we're waking up now. By waking up, I mean spiritually .... I don't conflate waking up spiritually with waking up politically... it's not the same thing at all.

    We need to wake up spiritually ... all change grows from the inside out, not the outside in. Outside in kills life. Inside out supports life. It's a law of nature.




    The political will then take care of itself. When we stand in our truth reached through our own power, and our own work, we will have achieved the purpose of our lives here in this weird and wonderful 3D trip we've found ourselves in this time around.
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    When I saw Mr. Icke in San Rafael, he spoke for about an hour on the moon being a massive mind control device exerting influence over us all.
    That is consistent with what Tolec recently reported with regard to a mind control grid that was put in place by the Draco reptilians thousands of years ago. Allegedly, it is a triangulated grid with outposts on Mars, Earth & the Moon and was designed to lower the vibration of the planet and prevent higher resonance energies flowing into Gaia.

    Tolec Interview: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ohioexo...se-destruction
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    Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

    Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.

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    Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

    Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.
    Well, I'm sure many members of the military watch Alex Jones. Just as many support Ron Paul. In fact, according to some polls, more of them supported Paul than any other candidate. So we don't have to assume that they are all mindless supporters of the cabal.

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    Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

    Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.
    Well, I'm sure many members of the military watch Alex Jones. Just as many support Ron Paul. In fact, according to some polls, more of them supported Paul than any other candidate. So we don't have to assume that they are all mindless supporters of the cabal.
    WHY IT DOESN'T MATTER IF DRAKE IS RIGHT OR WRONG.

    How much of the Military actually heard what Drake or Jones say?
    It comes down to this FACT... that they have no other choice in the matter. It will come down to trying to take the guns out of American's dead hands or eliminate the Cabal. I know at least 10 people who own enough guns and ammo themselves to take on a small police force. I think the Police is where we have little control. I've talked to two Policemen who know nothing on the subject. They are the real sheepeople as I see it. Will they unarm citizens? Will they be willing to die doing it? It's going to come to that one day.

    This is why what Drake says makes so much sense and resonates with so many people.
    It doesn't matter that nothing has happened yet because we all know something is going to happen. I seriously doubt the Military is going to sit by and let the bankers create one world Government where they are at the orders of Bankers. Once the Police wake the truck up, we will have our day. This is why Drake is so important. Don't forget to do your share. I've got a great idea, instead of complaining that Drake is a false prophet, why don't you try to wake people up with information that has nothing to do with Drake. Just get the word out. I for one refuses to shoot the messenger/Drake.

    Make sure everybody sees the Thrive Movie.

    These are 2 great videoes to send to people to get them to WAKE UP.
    As of today, I've sent this to at least 20 people.



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    Does Alex mention why the American Citizens will be fought in the street considering that as a whole we aren't the ones quite responsible for the artificial banking and economies that have held us in a death grip for years. Is it because....say.....we had the temerity to notice this phenom.

    Which would be quite reflective of the hostility shown to certain forum members who see where the whole drake thing is going, yet are somehow amiss for noticing it.

    Funny how we create our realities.

    Quote Posted by foreverfan (here)
    Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

    Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.


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    If Drake adherents who claim to be so enlightened , and open to new ideas, and knowledeable about movies and things can't be woken up what makes you think the common MSM raddled citizen would be easier to wake up?

    Just curious?

    I'm sure lots of them would be interested, politely thank me and go back to their previously programmed lives.

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    Quote Posted by foreverfan (here)
    Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

    Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.
    Well, I'm sure many members of the military watch Alex Jones. Just as many support Ron Paul. In fact, according to some polls, more of them supported Paul than any other candidate. So we don't have to assume that they are all mindless supporters of the cabal.

    How much of the Military actually heard what Drake or Jones say?
    It comes down to this FACT... that they have no other choice in the matter. It will come down to trying to take the guns out of American's dead hands or eliminate the Cabal. I know at least 10 people who own enough guns and ammo themselves to take on a small police force. I think the Police is where we have little control. I've talked to two Policemen who know nothing on the subject. They are the real sheepeople as I see it. Will they unarm citizens? Will they be willing to die doing it? It's going to come to that one day.

    This is why what Drake says makes so much sense and resonates with so many people.
    It doesn't matter that nothing has happened yet because we all know something is going to happen. I seriously doubt the Military is going to sit by and let the bankers create one world Government where they are at the orders of Bankers. Once the Police wake the truck up, we will have our day. This is why Drake is so important. Don't forget to do your share. I've got a great idea, instead of complaining that Drake is a false prophet, why don't you try to wake people up with information that has nothing to do with Drake. Just get the word out. Make sure everybody sees the Thrive Movie.

    These are 2 great videoes to send to people.




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    Well 9eagle9... All you can do is try to awaken people so when the time comes, they will at least have a point of reference of truth. I will say, if you watch both of these videos, you will never look at TV news broadcasts the same.

    That's a huge start. Please don't tell me that you already gave up.

    As I see it.. you are either part of the problem or part of the solution.
    You can choose to be part of the solution and spend your time continuing to awaken people instead of warning people here who should already know better that to believe everything Drake says. I for one don't care if Wilcock, Fulford or Drake is a fake.

    It's the message that is so important. Don't miss this very important fact.
    They have done an incredible job of getting the message out. I doubt any of us could have done so much. If none of their predictions come true... wait.... Something has to give. The status quo is impossible to maintain. Do your part to wake up the masses.

    The journey of a thousand miles starts with first step. - Confucius
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    would that be 'Wake up! Wake up! save yourselves the house is on fire!'

    or

    'Wake up! Wake up! the house is on fire, someone will be along to save you presently?

    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    From http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2...ke-bailey.html:




    (Not my text below. This is verbatim from American Kabuki. -- BR)

    Found this at Rumor Mill News this morning. The photo above is courtesy Stephen Cook, it appears to have been lifted from the video below. I've enhanced it best I could in Photoshop. Not sure why Drake is incognito if he's left footprints this big on the Internet. I don't know about you but Drake look seriously bad-ass. He's an interesting character, one that militias and bikers would take serious and follow. I wouldn't want to get on the bad side of this guy, but at the same time he seems like a guy that wouldn't hold a grudge if you said "I'm sorry" for messing with him. Someday someone will have to do a movie about this time period, its getting more interesting by the day. -AK
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    June 22, 2012 - 20:10:57

    Since the beginning of 2012 an anonymous figure known as "Drake" has been circulating from David Wilcock, to Benjamin Fulford, to several different Internet Radio programs speaking about Mass Arrests of an International Banking Cabal, new technologies to be released, a new government, mass payouts to citizens, and a new Constitutional America. He is said to be the communications point of a World Wide Operation to clean the slate which involves coordination between secret societies and the military, as well as, an interim governing body.

    Now, the mysterious Drake's Identity has now been confirmed as Drake Bailey, a Florida resident involved in the Militia and Patriots for America. In this video from 2010, Drake talks about Chemtrails on with a Florida Local TV News station. Is Drake for real? Only time will tell however, who he is now no longer a topic for speculation.

    http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/DrakeBailey
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    "Hollow" was the exact word she used. And yes, I'm convinced Inelia had that ability, for sure. How the got the information (whether she "visited" astrally -- which is what she said -- or whether she just remote viewed the two locations), I'm not qualified to answer.
    As for the moon, check out - Who Built the Moon?

    Knight and Butler make compelling arguments. A summary -

    "The authors of Civilization One return, bringing new evidence about the Moon that will shake up our world. Christopher Knight and Alan Butler realized that the ancient system of geometry they presented in their earlier, breakthrough study works as perfectly for the Moon as it does the Earth. They found a consistent sequence of integer numbers that they can apply to every major aspect of the Moon; no such pattern emerges for any other planet or moon in the solar system. In addition, Knight and Butler discovered that the Moon possesses few or no heavy metals and has no core—something that should not be possible. Their persuasive conclusion: if higher life only developed on Earth because the Moon is exactly what it is and where it is, it becomes unreasonable to cling to the idea that the Moon is a natural object—an idea with profound implications."

    If one spends the time to read investigations such as this, the reasonable mind would question the Moon's supposed natural occurrence. Did it ever occur to the readers of this post the highly improbable fact that viewing from the earth to the sun, the moon covers the sun perfectly? What are the chances? As David Icke says, "Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about, mate." haha


    With regards to Remote Viewing - I recommend Dale Graff's Tracks in the Psychic Wilderness and Ingo Swann's Penetration.

    I have had correspondence with some of the participants of Project Stargate in relation to my own psi experiences - my personal specialty is with synchronicity creation (yes... I typed creation).

    Because of my experiences in this regard, I have no doubt the remote viewing phenomena is not only possible but very real and being further developed within black projects after being "officially" abandoned twenty years ago.

    I can understand the skeptic as I recall that when I was young and had not developed any tangible psi abilities I did not believe in the phenomena. But I can assure you, psi phenomena is very, very real - remote viewing being one of these psi talents.

    justone
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