Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by aranuk (here)
How eleven people here can say thanks to that ramble, beats me.

Stan

Yes, it does.

Oh, thanks for drawing my attention to it. I hadn't thanked it yet.

[sygh]

To the point, Drake is full of it. There is no way I would or, will associate with his buddies or him because the things he says are so off course, his crap will fall all over and bury every real point anyone here, or on other venues, tries to make just by association with him.

Associate with him, if you like... free will is just that.

[gripreaper]

Posted by aranuk (here)
And what on earth could that be GR?

Stan

I can’t believe I’m going to say this or endorse this idea, but I’ve given it a lot of thought over the last few days, due to the prompting of United Serenity’s recommendation to listen to Brook Agnew, that we need to call a Constitutional Convention here in the United States.

I’m in agreement with you Stan that the grass roots initiatives need to come from the United States, since the charter which the Federal Reserve has to keep us in slavery came from the US, and we are the most heavily armed nation on the planet, and our military is being used as the global police by the cabal.

Why I have been hesitant to endorse a Constitutional Convention, is due to the fact that it could be used against us and put us deeper in slavery, should an awake electorate not be awake and aware in its implementation. I think we are getting close to where enough people are awake, and it’s just a matter of time before this idea can take root. Once the upper middle class baby boomers get to the point that their money is almost gone, and they wake up to the facts, then I think we can put this together.

All amendments after the 12th amendment need to be repealed and sovereignty returned to the states. The income tax needs to be abolished, and the printing of debt based instruments of promise at interest by the Federal Reserve abolished. Sound currency without interest needs to be put in place. The voting system needs to be amended and returned to the people, and the people damn well better get involved in their local states and make sure the scum psychopaths can’t take over their states ever again. Many of the alphabet agencies need to be abolished, and the free energy needs to be released. I also think Nawapa needs to be actively rolled out, which would provide worldwide employment overnight.

I would encourage you to look into the ideas out there in regards to a Constitutional Convention and restoration of the Sovereign states, other than RuSA.

Since you asked.

[foreverfan]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8

[TargeT]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.

it actually makes absolutely NO sense if you know anything about the military whatsoever....

I am in the military and have not been presented anywhere near this choice nor any that even comes close to any topic covered in this thread (directly anyway) the military is so compartmentalized (Look into that word, it carries a lot of meaning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compart...on_(psychology) ) that you will never find a wide spread message like this able to take hold with out extensive hierarchical support that would make this message practically impossible to keep from leaking to the media, facebook etc...

so, the scenario, as described; is impossible.

[Ishtar]

Posted by peace (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SKAWF (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
David Icke is most definitely correct about Fulford and David Wilcock.

Re the Moon being hollow (not a spy station for TPTB -- I've never heard him claim that!) -- here's an interesting anecdote from Inelia, dating from a little over a year ago.

She came up to me one day and said, "Did you know the Moon was hollow?" She had apparently just paid a visit to take a look. I asked her if she'd read any of David Icke's (and others') writings on the subject -- and she had not. She came up with the information all by herself.

She had a similar experience concerning the Dulce base. She'd never heard of it before, and I just referenced its existence to her in northern New Mexico. That's all I mentioned to her.

She immediately "went" to check it out. She was quite shocked. "I saw all kinds of genetic experiments... horrible things happening there", she reported. I asked her if she'd ever heard about any of that from any other source... and she had not.

hi Bill

i was wondering how much credence you give to inelia's account that she

1, paid a visit to the moon and saw that it was 'hollow'
and
2, visited dulce air force base?

i'm just curious as to whether you believe those two things.

the reason is, that to use the term 'hollow' seems slightly odd.

"Hollow" was the exact word she used. And yes, I'm convinced Inelia had that ability, for sure. How the got the information (whether she "visited" astrally -- which is what she said -- or whether she just remote viewed the two locations), I'm not qualified to answer.

Hi,
Respectfully, how can we use this as reliable data? I've always had a bit of a problem with remote viewing/astral projection, et al. Just don't see how it can be quantified or used/deemed reliable.

This would be my experience too, as someone who regularly goes into trance and also does what the CIA would call 'remote viewing'. I've heard that the CIA have had little success with 'remote viewing' for the reasons peace mentions. It's useless for spying on anyone, or discovering a secret location in this dimension, because, in my experience, it takes one to other dimensions. So if one is say viewing a Moon in another dimension, and it appears to have a certain structure or certain characteristics, like being hollow, it needn't necessarily have any bearing on the Moon in this dimension.

When one is in the shamanic trance, one meets entities from other dimensions, not entities from this dimension ~ in other words, not from this solar system or this 3D universe or any other 3D universes. We meet those from other dimensions, and they are not on their way here and they were not here on Earth before. They are timeless entities and so they've always been here, but they vibrate at a frequency not perceivable by us, and so they cannot be perceived unless one alters one's consciousness.

Our earliest ancestors were in touch with these intra-dimensional beings through techniques we now call mystical or shamanic. We can be too. It is our birthright, and it has been stolen from us. This is becoming increasingly well known now to archaeologists, who use shamans to help them to understand the ritual sites and artifacts of early man. Because our earliest ancestors were in touch with these all-knowing entities, they were capable of great feats, like inventing sacred geometry, building the pyramids, understanding the nature of the solar system before the invention of telescopes, or aligning megalithic sites with key astronomical events.

Our ancestors encoded this knowledge in what we now call myths, within metaphors and allegorical poetry. However, we are no longer taught how to read metaphors or myths ... and so these myths get misunderstood as records of historical events on Earth when nine times out of ten, they're recording astronomical events in the heavens.

If you'd like to learn more about how we now know that our earliest ancestors gained their knowledge through shamanic practices, I can recommend this book by Mike Williams: Prehistoric Belief: Shamans, Trance and the Afterlife.

It is my belief that the alien agenda has been all the more effective by keeping us in ignorance about the shamanic practises of our earliest ancestors going back tens of thousands of years. They have encouraged the image of the grunting, ignorant caveman. This means that we end up attributing our ancestors' great achievements to ETs. Logically, there is no other course we can take, and that serves the alien agenda very nicely thank you.

[applecrusher1992]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
Come on Man, we all agree that the world is in trouble and we need to do something about it. Each of us individually and collectively needs to do what we can. Some of these things are not exclusive to Drakes message, such as:

1. Get your own fiscal house in order. This means eliminate your debt; get your budget expenses in line below your income.
2. Buy local and support your local community businesses, and quit supporting the global corporatocracy as much as possible.
3. Put away some long term storage of basic commodities to last about six months.
4. Share with your family and friends what is going on with the elite and the Federal Reserve and the fiat debt based system, and how all roads lead to the 1%.
5. Detox your system and ingest a high rate of organic food and water. Exercise regularly.
6. Participate in skirmishes, mudslinging and name calling on the Avalon forum.

OK, just kidding about the last one, but where the disagreement comes is how we go about fixing the stranglehold the elite psychopaths at the top of the power pyramid have on planet earth. No one here disagrees about the problem, just how to get to a solution.

When it comes to good ET’s blowing up evil motherships to rescue soul groups who are being tortured and used in genetic experiments and as food, and it is proclaimed by the likes of Cobra, who is an emissary from the Pleidian’s, who uses a voice over disguise to speak to us, tells us that all the bad guy ET’s are all gone now, so when you see ET’s don’t shoot at them because they are all good, and these good ET’s are spreading deadly Stardust to take out the elite by rendering their nervous systems inoperable which kills them because of a Cosmic Decree from the Central Sun, and Lady Dragon, the self proclaimed world famous video game promoter who everybody who is anybody in the whole world is in touch with because we will all be in a game at some point, who google has blacklisted and stopped her important message getting out to the world, who has been to the Playboy Mansion as one of her credits, espouses that we should follow what she and Cobra and Drake are saying and doing, Drake who is an old E-3 from the military, who is the self proclaimed liaison for the greatest transformation to face this planet in 26,000 years, who has sent a letter of ultimatum to the joint chiefs of staff on a Saturday through a secretary and warned them if they did not arrest the cabal and get back to him right away, since he has the tactical connections and knowhow and willingness, and his proclamation that the military's time is up to take action, that he is going to take matters into his own hands and call up the peoples militia and get the US Republic back the way it used to be and make sure NESARA is implemented and the collateral accounts are distributed to everybody since the Bureau of International Settlements has been cut off and shut down by the Keenan liens and it’s all going to go down real soon…

Please don’t be dismayed by those of us who might question this. OK? There has to be another way.

Your absolutely right the way you put it. And you could probably add on that there is no concrete evidence for most if any of those claims directly. But when I first started finding out what our government was doing that seemed crazier to me than this. There has also been a lot of stuff happening that leads me to believe something big is about to happen. Whether Drake and others are a pys-op or not I don't know but what is conspiring now is probably important to what is about to come.

[applecrusher1992]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
In 1984 I told a young man about my age that his parents were about to divorce and I got the flaying of a lifetime and then his parents got divorced and then I was no longer a freak but a prophet and rinse and repeat.... 1999 I told everyone who would listen that George Bush would be the cookie, the catalyst, the early warning red flag, and the events that would bring down America would revolve around his presence in the White House.

I have made numerous comments that Kissinger and Cheney are far too old to still be alive and raising so much hell and dammit I'm such a bitch for noticing.

I was A) a freak, ignorant , negative, unenlightened bitch then. (and again in 2004) By 2005 I was a B) prophet. By 2006 I was back to being A.

In 2008 the day before the election I went on live TV and told everyone that Obama would win by a landslide. That was at 4 in the afternoon, by 8 pm I had so much hatemail simply for stating that Obama would win by a landslide (i never mentioned that I was happy/sad that he would) just the fact I predicted that was enough to get the herd stampeding, so it was A then a day later it was A (it was my fault that Obama won btw because I went on the news and said so like if I had the power to put someone in office I'd put myself there) then after a while it was B, and whatever.

I predicted my mother would die in June 2009 and everyone was pissed. I inadvertently did something that made her come back from the dead and everyone was pissed. I abate a life long case of shingles in a woman and she was pissed.

I'm over it, okay? I really don't care who is pissed. All I know is that I am a system buster and that is all I have to do.

I've made predictions in this forum squarely putting myself in A and then the next day I'm B again (like some weird convertible bra person)

I have made countless speculative logic predictions and I was met with the same "Oh my god your soo negative" UNTIL after the fact when I became B again, which only lasted until the next speculation that no one wanted to here then it was back to A, to B, to A, to B.

In the early 2000 I was pretty much certain that David Wilcocks wasn't Edgar Cayce and of course I was this wretched dirt bag raining on everyone's ascension parade.

I predicted in 2000 that abortion wouldn't be struck downduring the next decade and I was this horrid beast then too (and now).

So instead of getting frustrated by this I shrug it off, its not that people are ignorant....they don't care. Here and out there. All the same to me. I'd be perfectly happy if what Drake says will occur, it doesn't affect me either way.


I have been 'enlightening people' for a quite a long time now . People like to think I fell off the hay wagon last night but my family could tell you I've been making onersome speculations that they didn't particularly like to hear since I was a child (unless of course its something they want to hear). I can predict someone will get a bug up their arse about this post. The better part of metaphysics isn't making predictions but being aware of repeated patterns of events.

Given up. No. I'm just back to A.

I'm sure that Drake exists (duh) , he's probably military in some fashion or another, I'm sure he believes very much in his story. I don't give a **** if his name is Drake or Donald, no one uses their real name anymore even in the forum or convert to some new age star name.

Of course the banks are collapsing (I have been around at least since 08) yes the military is massing, yes the ptb sucks, the economy is artificial, money is fiat, yes yes yes.---I've known that for YEARS....Every family branch of the ptb has an army a letter agency, the GSI, the GIS, which no one knows about but will in the next year or two and someone will be pissed at me then too.

People were writing about this stuff in the 80's and my pot smoking hippy dippy government teacher was talking about it in the 80's. We've had martial law for a LONG time its just that we're so infiltrated we don't see it for what it is.

What I don't believe is this is going to go down the way claimed. After all it already hasn't half a dozen times.

I appreciate your comments and I don't think you are A or B but a very aware and intelligent person.

[Referee]

Posted by justoneman (here)

Posted by Referee (here)

Do not get me wrong here I am from KY I understand about hillbilly speak. However serving for quite a while changes people and the way they speak. I do not know his full background but...

Thanks for your comments.

Giving up on trying to change people's opinion is like giving into them. IMO It is of upmost importance to awaken as many people you can as fast as possible.

Kind Regards,

Ref

I have recently discovered something interesting... it is not a.) trying to change others nor b.) giving into them... it is c.) being (not pretending) but being the change I want to see.

What is interesting about this is that some folks who have known me for years have noticed the change. Some of these folks that noticed the change are folks I wish would change for the better (as if I really know what that might be - but that is drifting away from my point).

Some of these folks that have noticed the change, some being folks I wish would change, have begun asking me how I did it... and thus the door opens a tiny crack. The next trick is in regards to the fine art of how best to open a door - but that is for another (lengthy) post.

Now "being the change I want to see in others" is not my original idea nor quote, but sometimes when I hear a good one, I try it out.

So far this one is working good.

justoneman

Very well put! I really like your words!

Thanks !

[NancyV]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by foreverfan (here)
Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.

it actually makes absolutely NO sense if you know anything about the military whatsoever....

I am in the military and have not been presented anywhere near this choice nor any that even comes close to any topic covered in this thread (directly anyway) the military is so compartmentalized (Look into that word, it carries a lot of meaning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compart...on_(psychology) ) that you will never find a wide spread message like this able to take hold with out extensive hierarchical support that would make this message practically impossible to keep from leaking to the media, facebook etc...

so, the scenario, as described; is impossible.

So you're saying that you don't think 90% of the military is going to support the mass arrests and the revolution?? How could that BE? Drake said they were ready to go! Maybe you just haven't gotten the news yet.

[applecrusher1992]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
And what on earth could that be GR?

Stan

I can’t believe I’m going to say this or endorse this idea, but I’ve given it a lot of thought over the last few days, due to the prompting of United Serenity’s recommendation to listen to Brook Agnew, that we need to call a Constitutional Convention here in the United States.

I’m in agreement with you Stan that the grass roots initiatives need to come from the United States, since the charter which the Federal Reserve has to keep us in slavery came from the US, and we are the most heavily armed nation on the planet, and our military is being used as the global police by the cabal.

Why I have been hesitant to endorse a Constitutional Convention, is due to the fact that it could be used against us and put us deeper in slavery, should an awake electorate not be awake and aware in its implementation. I think we are getting close to where enough people are awake, and it’s just a matter of time before this idea can take root. Once the upper middle class baby boomers get to the point that their money is almost gone, and they wake up to the facts, then I think we can put this together.

All amendments after the 12th amendment need to be repealed and sovereignty returned to the states. The income tax needs to be abolished, and the printing of debt based instruments of promise at interest by the Federal Reserve abolished. Sound currency without interest needs to be put in place. The voting system needs to be amended and returned to the people, and the people damn well better get involved in their local states and make sure the scum psychopaths can’t take over their states ever again. Many of the alphabet agencies need to be abolished, and the free energy needs to be released. I also think Nawapa needs to be actively rolled out, which would provide worldwide employment overnight.

I would encourage you to look into the ideas out there in regards to a Constitutional Convention and restoration of the Sovereign states, other than RuSA.

Since you asked.

I agree. We are getting to the point where I think everyone would like to do something about our situation. We may have no choice but to take some serious action and I would prefer it to be non-violent.

On the whole Drake issue I still have hope but that doesn't make me ignorant or a blind follower. Every time there is someone who claims to have a plan or answers I say to myself what can I gain from this experience? From the Charles experience I became a member on Avalon which I love. From this I have gained much more. My own beliefs have been challenged and my heart more than every wants me to take more action. That may mean going into the streets and informing people of what is currently happening. It may mean other action to take our freedom back. I will need to look into what I can do. I have also gained spiritually trying to find the truth within myself and feel a greater connection to source. This has been a draining experience for me and something that I may need to remove myself from it. But I don't think that this is a waste of time but rather a learning experience for all of us. I think we ALL of us have gained something from our interaction a part of the greater truth and I think this event has taught everyone involved a little bit about others and ultimately themselves.

[sygh]

When Americans actually find out their land and the businesses they supported have been sold out from under them, I think we can count on "something big" happening. When they sold some of our own ports -and by-passed others to get past the unions, and then they started allowing toll highways to be built and owned by foreign interests, etc, etc, etc...

Really, its only a matter of time now before the full realization of what's taken place over the last 19 years really hits home, and of course the fiat economy. But the one's responsible won't be here, they will be in other countries supplying goods to both sides.

[SilentFeathers]

So? When the top generals/pentagon officials (Drakes buddies) lol etc brief their commanders, captains etc. (not sure of rank ladder) and tells them nano dust has been sprayed by ET's and will turn the enemies into zombies, UFO ET ships are circling the Earth locked and loaded and ready to strike, all enemy weapons will not fire at them and have been disabled, armed militias across the country are standing ready to assist, secret agents called channelers are where this intel is coming from etc etc etc., and orders them to take down (arrest or murder) all suspected US gov and banking officials and all other alleged "crooks".....do you honestly think that these military people will think there is any sanity to these orders at all?????

...and then these top generals give their officers profile folders of Drake, Fulford, Wilcock, Lady Dragon, Cobra etc and tell their officers that these are the "trusted resistance leaders" of the USA??????? LOL!!!!! That these are the intel gatherers more reliable than the CIA, military, etc???? LOL!!!!!!! That these are the chosen people of the ET's???? LOL!!!!

I know military is trained not to question orders and must follow them, but come on folks, even well seasoned officers would think this was a joke and consider the top brass handing down something like this completely insane.

But if the military was ordered to stop an armed revolution and resistance of ET believing psychopaths publically announcing that they are contemplating mass murder of gov officials, bankers etc., I'm pretty sure they could accept that story and take action......

Get real folks! Drake and Co is enticing people do gather (armed) and to take action against gov officials and property etc.....

If some people are ignorant and foolish enough to stand up against the gov with all kinds of simple weapons etc and we all know many will have itchy trigger fingers, well all I can say is get ready for the "cabal" to come after all guns and use every form of draconian police state legislation, drones and high tech hardware, to its maximum and most extreme potential. Those with shotguns and pitchforks won't stand a chance.

One truth Drake has made is about stocking up on toilet paper, because when the hammer comes down and all the Drake followers see that just the opposite is happening, well they will be crapping their pants and glad they have plenty of toilet paper to use!

Who's more insane? me or this outrageous plan of Drakes and Co?

[foreverfan]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by foreverfan (here)
Getting back to Alex Jones... he is telling the Military what they will be used for. This is important because it will be up to each individual what they will do. The Military is in an interesting dilemma. They can take out the Cabal now or fight the American People in the streets later.

Which one makes the most sense? This is the only reason why I give Drake any credence since these are the only two possibilities.

it actually makes absolutely NO sense if you know anything about the military whatsoever....

I am in the military and have not been presented anywhere near this choice nor any that even comes close to any topic covered in this thread (directly anyway) the military is so compartmentalized (Look into that word, it carries a lot of meaning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compart...on_(psychology) ) that you will never find a wide spread message like this able to take hold with out extensive hierarchical support that would make this message practically impossible to keep from leaking to the media, facebook etc...

so, the scenario, as described; is impossible.

So what you are saying is when the order comes to go to people houses and take their guns, American Soldiers will follow those orders to the letter?

[D-Day]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Who's more insane? me or this outrageous plan of Drakes and Co?

Hmm, now that's a toughie.

I guess the answer to that question would depend largely on the definition of insanity one used when making that assessment.

Personally, I've always liked Einstein's definition...

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Based on the above.................. well, let's just say it doesn't look good for you. lol

Only kidding SilentFeathers, I for one appreciate the effort you make to expose the nonsense and BS found in threads like this one... love your work!

P.S. Just to be on the safe side I took the liberty of contacting your local insane asylum... they're on their way over to your place now to "check up on you and make sure you're ok

[ulli]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
No one pays attention to the positive things I say because it doesn't fit in with their comprehension level. So I focus on those people who want to help themselves not those who want stories but an expression of change startign in their life...now. Not in the future.

People as Stan has demonstrated do not have the ABILITY, the resources, the wherewithall to comprehend, understand or undertake that which is 'positive' or rather just plain old neccessary for people if they want to orchestrate their destiny.

9E9: No one pays attention to the positive things I say because it doesn't fit in with their comprehension level.

ulli: Not true. I have learnt from you, and thus had my comprehension level heightened.

9E9: So I focus on those people who want to help themselves not those who want stories but an expression of change startign in their life...now. Not in the future.

ulli: Not true. One only has to read ten of your posts to see that you focus mostly on people who are erring.

9E9: People as Stan has demonstrated do not have the ABILITY, the resources, the wherewithall to comprehend, understand or undertake that which is 'positive' or rather just plain old neccessary for people if they want to orchestrate their destiny.

ulli: Not true. Stan is Stan, and people are people. There is a distinction here.
Stan has lots of abilities, one only has to read a few of his posts.
As to his resources, no one can make that judgement but himself.

I won't even go into the rest, as it speaks for itself as an ad hominem attack against Stan.

On the other hand, I admit that Stan has been discourteous to your posts as well, but I guess there is a battle going on here that goes back further than I care to investigate. When two quarrel, both are wrong, in my opinion.

But no one can deny that Stan has plenty of resources, being an astrologer, and as such has seen the interaction of public beliefs, urban myths, and the various sources that interfere with the public in order to direct things in a certain way.

But no one can know for sure what the outcome of all this is, as beyond the manipulators there are levels and beings beyond everyone's perception.

It is quite possible that Drake is being played as a lure to bring out the militia, that David Wilcock is being played to discredit anyone who is into metaphysics, that Fulford is being played to show up the conspiracy theory followers, and that so it will make it easier for the PTB to flush out the more extreme characters which threaten their plans.

But at the same time the positive vision that is being proclaimed by them is also being digested and absorbed by those readers who have no violent intent, but are becoming aware of what vision they want to hold for their own future and that vision is not all bad.

Vision is the beginning of reality, the first step. A person with a powerful beam can reach others via telepathy, who then can help to bust the system.

Whether these peoples visions come from within the self,
or from the outside, is immaterial, as either one can be potentially harmless or harmful,
what matters is careful weighing of what vision one wants to chose.

Because vision that comes from within could be MK, or AI, and as such not 100% reliable, while vision from without is being handed on all sorts of platters.
All each of us needs to do is choose very carefully what is nutritious and what is only for short-term gratification.
And not only for the self, but also for the family, the community, the nation, and humanity at large.
Ripple effect.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by foreverfan (here)
So what you are saying is when the order comes to go to people houses and take their guns, American Soldiers will follow those orders to the letter?

I personally feel most soldiers will follow these orders, considering the alternative, which is; being disarmed, thrown in the brig, and court martialed...hence getting fired and becoming unemployed and not being able to even collect unemployment because they have been dishonorably discharged, etc.. I'm sure "some" will refuse to participate, but that number will be much lower than those gun ho to some see some type of action, even if it is a silly police action to collect guns from potential terrorists on american soil (hence patriot act-NDAA, etc etc etc)

RE: Some may be brainwashed in to believing that what they are doing is a matter of national security and in the best interest of the american people to keep the people safe, thus, I suspect Drakes poll numbers are incorrect about most of the military ready to do a "mutiny"...

added

even drake says, threaten or cut off the flow of money to the cabal and that'll get there attention and influence them.....why wouldn't the same apply elsewhere???? such as in the military?
Get real people, Drakes plan is catastrophically flawed when it comes to believing everything he says......or about anything he says

[Unified Serenity]

Just remember Hurricane Katrina. The people were looting and lawless, and our national guard along with Blackwater had no problem going house to house seizing weapons, and shooting looters. That is why this urge to rise up and have a violent revolution plays right into the hands of the ptb. Oh, they want us to fight back, and can't figure out for the life of them whey we haven't already formed a mob and attacked them. So, they will do more and more to push us over the edge.

[SKAWF]

i had noticed that some words that were used were not really aimed at those listening to the interviews.
i think some things are said, not because they are true, but as a tool to create little shifts and ripples.

for example.....

drake might say to the interviewer that there are to be some serious consequences for those elites that are involved
he might even get a little bit graphic about whats going to happen to them.......

but there will also be a comment about how they can come forward and co operate.

to me, thats just a 'scare em, and give them a way out' tactic.

same as the military being ready to mutiny......

it may or may not be true

but any single soldier might feel a bit more incline to say 'NO'
if he thought that he was not alone.

often i think these interviews are a way for the interviewee
to get messages out to other parties, as well as the person asking the questions.

[Ishtar]

Drake's Facebook page has become a major dump for disinformation scare tactics. The latest one which just landed claims that Obama has just declared a national emergency when in fact all he did on the Monday of last week was to extend a 'national emergency' over Russian nuclear material that's been active ever since Bill Clinton signed it into law in 2001. It has been extended annually ever since. Here's what RIA Novosti has to say about it:

U.S. President Barack Obama has ordered a one-year extension of the U.S. national emergency over Russian atomic material suitable for use in nuclear weapons.

Obama submitted a notice of the extension for publication in the U.S. Federal Register on Monday.

“The accumulation of a large volume of weapons-usable fissile material in the territory of the Russian Federation continues to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States,” Obama said in a message to the U.S. Congress accompanying the notice.

“For this reason, I have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency declared with respect to the risk of nuclear proliferation created by the accumulation of a large volume of weapons-usable fissile material in the territory of the Russian Federation and maintain in force these emergency authorities to respond to this threat,” he said.

The national emergency over Russian nuke material was declared in Executive Order 13159 of June 21, 2000 by the then-president Bill Clinton. It has been extended annually ever since.

The extension of the emergency is necessary to support the execution of a 1993 Moscow-Washington agreement on eliminating highly enriched uranium removed from Russian nuclear warheads (the so-called HEU-LEU agreement).

It's from here: http://en.ria.ru/russia/20120619/174114545.html

If anyone's a member of that Facebook group, maybe they could let them know as they are getting into a right tither about it.