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    To the best of my knowledge right now, any national emergency that is declared automatically suspends the Constitution of the United States........

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    The problem is the Constitution FOR the United States of America was suspended back in 1861 and in the Act of 1871, they changed the Constitution to read, The Constitution OF the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with is 10 mile radius of Washington D.C. as it's Corporation. We have lived a lie for a very long time.

    http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf

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    I honestly don't know what else to say in this thread to convince those still holding the binoculars the wrong way to flip them around and look through them the right way....so that they may take a little closer look at other possibilities beyond only Drake and Co's verbage...

    I'm pretty much done wasting my breath.....
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    You are right United...it's those little words that will fool you every time...



    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    The problem is the Constitution FOR the United States of America was suspended back in 1861 and in the Act of 1871, they changed the Constitution to read, The Constitution OF the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with is 10 mile radius of Washington D.C. as it's Corporation. We have lived a lie for a very long time.

    http://www.byronwine.com/files/1871.pdf

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    I honestly don't know what else to say in this thread to convince those still holding the binoculars the wrong way to flip them around and look through them the right way....so that they may take a little closer look at other possibilities beyond only Drake and Co's verbage...

    I'm pretty much done wasting my breath.....
    So what you are basically saying is we are screwed. Forget Drake. I guess we have no options except to watch as the fence is built around the sheepeople. I find this hard to accept. This is why I will continue to show people the fence being built around them so when the time comes, it won't be their first rodeo with what's going on. You have to first get them to look at the news media for what it is.

    So how do we enlighten more people?

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    For those who have not looked it up, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation.

    From: Title 28 3002 (15) (A) (B) (C)

    (15) “United States” means—
    (A) a Federal corporation;
    (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
    (C) an instrumentality of the United States.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

    I found this on the people's media. It offers some solutions to our problems:


    http://www.facebook.com/PeoplesMedia/info

    We have some humble suggestions to restore the original republic our fore fathers intended. This needs to be brought to attention so the problem can be dealt with; we MUST be focused, too much energy is directed toward addressing the symptom than solving the problem.

    1. The Federal Reserve needs to be abolished PERIOD. It is a privately owned central bank that is a parasite to this country's sovereignty. It's use of the fractional reserve banking system in form is a Ponzi scheme. REAL and TANGIBLE money should be brought back as "lawful" money not "legal tender".

    2. The use of Uniform Commercial Code(admiralty/maritime law) needs to be sent back to the place it came, the sea. These laws of commerce operates under the color of law toward the unknowing men and women of this country(and many others). The "law of the land" needs to be brought back into presumption of jurisdiction to make our republic de jure once again.

    3. The education and simplifying of law so each and every man and woman can communicate in the same language. The BAR guilds across the planet need to be reorganized/abolished and and the trash needs to be taken out. As long as the perversion of law is in existence people will find a way to enslave each other.

    4. Abolish the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 that created the corporation known as "United States"(the capital "U" denotes a fiction as applied to United States under law). Reinstate the "united States"(notice the lowercase "u", reference the Declaration of Independence) which is the original de jure republic comprised of men and women(sovereigns) who represent each state which are part of a confederation.

    5. Abolish the UN, IMF and any imperialistic order created to enslave man. The globe should be a confederacy of sovereign nations with the a common bond of earth.


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    Restore the de jure REPUBLIC! Mainstream media is a disgrace to the people of this country as well as our brothers and sisters of the world. Mainstream media is the propaganda branch of the de facto government and we are to counter their deceit.

    de jure adj. Latin for lawful, as distinguished from de facto (actual).
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    Quote Posted by foreverfan (here)
    So what you are basically saying is we are screwed. Forget Drake. I guess we have no options except to watch as the fence is built around the sheepeople. I find this hard to accept. This is why I will continue to show people the fence being built around them so when the time comes, it won't be their first rodeo with what's going on. You have to first get them to look at the news media for what it is.

    So how do we enlighten more people?
    When I think about how so many people are so easily misled, not by this Drake stuff only but by MSM etc., it surly gives me a bad feeling inside instead of being filled with hope and promise.....I must say that for the bigger picture/largest extent of the state of things on a global and national scale, yes we are basically screwed. Sadly I feel it's going to get much uglier before things get pretty.....but then again I am only relying on my own intuition and common sense, I'm sure I should be trying to channel et's to get a better perspective and more proof of whats "really" happening....

    How do we enlightened others? Well, I think it's up to them to enlighten themselves if they are capable.....no one can force another to spiritually blossom when they're not ready to or are not capable too.

    I'm doing what I can and I'm sure it's not all being done correctly or I'm spot on about everything, hopefully I have caused a few to think a little more in depth about certain things though.....
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    I think one of the best ways to enlighten others is to be love. To center yourself, to emanate sacred divine love and send it out and communicate from that place even if the message is not a happy skippy one. I'm not always so good at doing so, but I am called home to God/dess more and more in spirit and know that to help anyone it must be from Divine love and inspiration.

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    I honestly don't know what else to say in this thread to convince those still holding the binoculars the wrong way to flip them around and look through them the right way....so that they may take a little closer look at other possibilities beyond only Drake and Co's verbage...

    I'm pretty much done wasting my breath.....
    Your analogy of the binoculars suggests that there are only two ways to look at things. You also assume that people are not considering possibilities beyond Drake. While this may describe some people, I doubt if it's accurate for most of Drake's "supporters" or "followers" as some like to call them. To me, there are always many possibilities and reality is more like a holographic kaleidoscope than a pair of binoculars.

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    I honestly don't know what else to say in this thread to convince those still holding the binoculars the wrong way to flip them around and look through them the right way....so that they may take a little closer look at other possibilities beyond only Drake and Co's verbage...

    I'm pretty much done wasting my breath.....
    Your analogy of the binoculars suggests that there are only two ways to look at things. You also assume that people are not considering possibilities beyond Drake. While this may describe some people, I doubt if it's accurate for most of Drake's "supporters" or "followers" as some like to call them. To me, there are always many possibilities and reality is more like a holographic kaleidoscope than a pair of binoculars.
    Anyone can break down what I say and make what they want out of it, I'm hoping (I know) there's a few here that get the jist of what I'm saying without the need to do that....
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    Okay aside I'll entertain your desire to be very specific and PERSON-al, Ulli.

    I have in my hubris stumbled over your astrological filters again, and that may be because the content of this thread isnt about Stan's or yours astrologoical prowess but since you've decided to make this PERSON-al Ulli, let's be personal about our filters. Atrological filters perhaps since you decided my post was about challenging Stan's astrology prowess, when in fact Stan's inablity to comprehend (and yours) may be entirely up to astrological filters .Thank you for letting me know that, I had no idea Stan was an astrologer.

    Your post Ulli makes it obvious that there's nothing I've conveyed to you that has heightened your comprehension level. Because you have something you are self identified with that limits your comprehension and that is of course limiting to one's comprehension level. Suddenly my post was an attack on Stan and his astrological prowess which you perceive takes precedence over my inner knowing.

    It doesn't.

    Just like Drake's declarations should take precedence over my inner knowing, right? And that is what other people are attempting to convey here.What Drake imagines doesn't take precedence over what we can see for ourselves.

    What you think of me personally, which you try very hard to hide under some guise of wise elder woman chastising the upstart, really has nothing to do with YOUR comprehension level but how you personally perceive me through your own filters. Which are ...let me guess....astrological in nature. (a bit self evident there). And I am of course, always about looking at what is self evident.

    While you feel that I have infringed on Stan as a person, using Stan to launch a personal attack that I sense you are always itching to intiate is not exactly all in integrity either, or rather his vaunted sense of Personhood should not be challenged by me, but can be used for you to air whatever personal grievances you have with with me under the guise of some weird role you have chosen for yourself. . That is probably not personal per say because any old person could be used as an excuse for you to launch which is always lurking beneath the surface.

    Don't use Stan as an excuse. That's using people.

    Stan is not the perfect excuse to attack me for failing to live up to your astrological filters. So if you want to talk about persons and personals and abusing .....persons shall we start there.

    What you think of me personally Ulli is not really all that well hidden under that surface role you assume for yourself. This is been made self evident before and self evident here.

    Because you are basing your perceptions on astrological filters because you are stuck there. That is why nothing I have said has advanced your comprehension.

    This is where the tool is no longer a resource but an impediment to one's comprehension. That is why I say that people, persons if you prefer do not have the ability to comprehend what I'm saying. You are not comprehending what I'm saying you are reacting and using my post as a launching pad to attack me personally and this is a repeated and obvious pattern for you to little involve yourself in the subject of a thread but find a niche from where you can pop up and cry foul when I transcend your filters...again.

    A repeated pattern of little involving one in the the subject matter of threads, but then hastily hasten to a thread in question to chastise me. It's been noticed too many times by others for me to chalk up as my essential Piscean paranoia. Since you wanted things to be PERSON-al Ulli. (and astrological)

    Comprhende?

    This is obvious because you have partcipated very little in the actual subject matter of this thread but suddenly your participation is launching a personal attack on a personal revelation that I made because...another actually participating member asked me a serious query about 'giving up' and I gave an equally serious from the heart , this is my authentic expression to that . That was not Stan by the way that made that query so I am presuming you are launching this rather obvious personally generated defense because Stan is an astrologer....like you. So Stan needs a defendant because he's guilty of astrology but then again..so is Ulli.

    In the weird way that PERSON-al filters work, Ulli somehow feels as if she were attacked and must rush in to defend herself. Or Stan. Or astrology. Or something. Anyone, everything not comprehending why they are doing so which emphasizes the ponts that many naysayers have urged over and over on this thread.

    Your defenses of course always gimbol about astrology because that is the only defense that you have. I know that, you've demonstrated that to me repeatedly. Your filters only give you one defense.

    I don't defer to astrology Ulli and I think you know that. I think I have stated that loudly and forthrightly that astrology can be a limit to knowing one's true self and inhibit one's true knowing in the process.

    It has a place and I know what that place is.

    People are people and people see things through personal filters that level their ability to comprehend. That's basically 101 stuff there and that is being made self evident here because you perceive my quoted post to about a slant to Stan's astrological prowess ( and less about Stan's filters ) because you percieve me as attacking an astrologer when I was actually responding to a query Forever Fan made about giving up. My entire post was about filters, not about Stan as a person (all persons have filters) or about Stan's astrological prowess. (which still has nothing to do with me...or you either for that matter at least not enough to move yourself in to a position where you want to be eviscerated and I am kindly (kindly) refraining from doing so.


    I know that you are challenged Ulli because I won't stay in the proper Pisces box and give your self entitlement the due homage that you perceive that it requires.
    But I'm not going to defer to that. That is your filter, your personal impediment to comprehension, you deal with it the best way you know how.

    Was that specific enough, COMPREHENSIVE enough?

    Bottom line. People's filters make them incapable of comprehending what is actually being said. Your's happen to be astrological. That is self evident and not something I'm dredging up from the hubris of my delusional Piscean dream works.







    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Quote Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
    No one pays attention to the positive things I say because it doesn't fit in with their comprehension level. So I focus on those people who want to help themselves not those who want stories but an expression of change startign in their life...now. Not in the future.

    People as Stan has demonstrated do not have the ABILITY, the resources, the wherewithall to comprehend, understand or undertake that which is 'positive' or rather just plain old neccessary for people if they want to orchestrate their destiny.
    9E9: No one pays attention to the positive things I say because it doesn't fit in with their comprehension level.
    ulli: Not true. I have learnt from you, and thus had my comprehension level heightened.

    9E9: So I focus on those people who want to help themselves not those who want stories but an expression of change startign in their life...now. Not in the future.
    ulli: Not true. One only has to read ten of your posts to see that you focus mostly on people who are erring.

    9E9: People as Stan has demonstrated do not have the ABILITY, the resources, the wherewithall to comprehend, understand or undertake that which is 'positive' or rather just plain old neccessary for people if they want to orchestrate their destiny.

    ulli: Not true. Stan is Stan, and people are people. There is a distinction here.
    Stan has lots of abilities, one only has to read a few of his posts.
    As to his resources, no one can make that judgement but himself.
    I won't even go into the rest, as it speaks for itself as an ad hominem attack against Stan.

    On the other hand, I admit that Stan has been discourteous to your posts as well, but I guess there is a battle going on here that goes back further than I care to investigate. When two quarrel, both are wrong, in my opinion.

    But no one can deny that Stan has plenty of resources, being an astrologer, and as such has seen the interaction of public beliefs, urban myths, and the various sources that interfere with the public in order to direct things in a certain way.

    But no one can know for sure what the outcome of all this is, as beyond the manipulators there are levels and beings beyond everyone's perception.

    It is quite possible that Drake is being played as a lure to bring out the militia, that David Wilcock is being played to discredit anyone who is into metaphysics, that Fulford is being played to show up the conspiracy theory followers, and that so it will make it easier for the PTB to flush out the more extreme characters which threaten their plans.

    But at the same time the positive vision that is being proclaimed by them is also being digested and absorbed by those readers who have no violent intent, but are becoming aware of what vision they want to hold for their own future and that vision is not all bad.

    Vision is the beginning of reality, the first step. A person with a powerful beam can reach others via telepathy, who then can help to bust the system.

    Whether these peoples visions come from within the self,
    or from the outside, is immaterial, as either one can be potentially harmless or harmful,
    what matters is careful weighing of what vision one wants to chose.

    Because vision that comes from within could be MK, or AI, and as such not 100% reliable, while vision from without is being handed on all sorts of platters.
    All each of us needs to do is choose very carefully what is nutritious and what is only for short-term gratification.
    And not only for the self, but also for the family, the community, the nation, and humanity at large.
    Ripple effect.

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    Oh no... Drake's people running his Facebook group have leapt at that purported national emergency story to get everyone to flood the White House with calls.... they're going to look ridiculous. To repeat, if you didn't see my post further up, on Monday of last week Obama extended an existing national emergency that was created by Bill Clinton in 2001. Whoever is President does it every year. It's just business as usual, to a large extent


    ALL RIGHT FOLKS HERE IT IS....DENISE CREATED AN EVENT OF PRE-EMPTIVE PREPAREDNESS....THIS IS NOT A "GREEN LIGHT" BUT I AM SURE MOST OF YOU CAN FEEL IT. THE FOLLOWING LINKS HAVE TO GO VIRAL SO MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE. THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS HAPPENING THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE REPORTED HERE IN DIFFERENT UPDATES AND IF WE START CONNECTING THE DOTS THE PICTURE STARTS TO FOCUS. WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE CHECKING OUT SOURCES AROUND THE WORLD IN ALL AREAS.... STOCK MARKET IS FLUCTUATING, FROZEN ASSETS AND WITHDRAWLS...MILITARY MOVEMENTS. THE MILITIAS ARE ON ALERT AND STANDING BY...IT IS UP TO ALL OF US TO BEGIN TO BRING ALL RELEVANT BREAKING NEWS STORIES HERE TO UPDATE EVENTS. I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THESE LINKS BY NOW BUT ACCORDING TO DRAKE AND OTHER SOURCES THEY ARE RELEVANT. ALL THIS STEMS AROUND AGENDA 21 THE UN PLANS AND THE FAILED MEETING THESE LAST FEW DAYS.

    ATTENTION: AFTER THE ABYSMAL FAILURE OF RIO+20 THE HAND OF THE CABAL HAS BEEN FORCED. I AM TOLD ALL MILITIA HAS BEEN PUT ON HIGH ALERT... THERE IS NO RUSSIAN THREAT!! IN FACT ALL RUSSIAN TROOPS HAVING TRAINED ON THIS SOIL HAVE BEEN GIVEN ORDERS NOT TO ENGAGE WITH THE CIVILIAN POPULATION BUT IF CALLED UPON TO PROTECT THEM.

    [The militia are hardly going to be put on high alert over a standard order that has been automatically renewed every year since 2001. ~ Ishtar]

    I SUGGEST ALL CITIZENS FLOOD THE WHITE HOUSE, AND THE HOUSE AND SENATE WITH COMMUNICATIONS WHICH LET THEM KNOW WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF THIS ACTION AND DO NOT BUY IT ONE IOTA. WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES AND OUR COUNTRY FROM ANY GOVERNMENT EFFORTS TO EFFECT MARTIAL LAW AND A TAKE OVER.

    For Immediate Release
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    Letter--Russian Highly Enriched Uranium
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...riched-uranium

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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

    Couldn't you just have stayed with the specifics addressed, rather than get really, really personal?
    I defended Stan only after I saw your unfair statements, which were untrue, and needed pointing out.

    Anyway,
    You know already how I feel about monster posts, so I won't even read more than the few bits I saw.

    Tl;dr

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    Talk about trying to drum up panic.

    Drake has just posted this on Rick Light's website.

    FULL ALERT...
    ALL militias.
    We are under an emergency.
    Foreign troops are set to disarm us.
    The bad guys are attempting to declare war on us...
    MM has the emails if the links above don't work. Asked him to post this.
    Somethin might be hittin tha fan real quick like.

    The links are to the aforementioned White House letter extending the national emergency order

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...riched-uranium

    and also a report on Rio.

    http://joemiller.us/2012/06/last-wee...al-government/
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    OK, this is from me:

    FULL ALERT...
    ALL followers of Drake.
    You are being conned by a liar.
    Drake is using disinfo tactics to get you to panic.
    He wants you all rising up and going out into the streets.
    Where you will be arrested, at the very least
    By those who are waiting for you.
    Please ignore this ignorant, self-centred and delusional man.

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    Emotion and urgency are needed to override reason. It is a pretty effective technique. The sense of impending event in which each listener plays a special role gives meaning to people's lives and causes them to follow the drum beat which is the source of this bestowed meaning. The use of emotion and panic-frenzy (They're gonna nuke us!) is also used to mobilize public opinion for war. Chris Hedges documents this well in War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning.

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    "There is hidden war now taking place in [the] Pentagon. The dark Cabal tried to infiltrate the Positive Military group to stop the mass arrests but this is currently successfully being dealt with. This was one of the main reasons for delays that frustrated so many people." -- Cobra


    You can read more from Cobra's latest blog here:


    http://2012portal.blogspot.com/


    Ishtar: Where in the galaxy did you get that idea -- or did you just make it up? Drake has never said or done anything to give me the impression that he is wanting people to panic in the streets, etc. (although he has mentioned several times at least that that is what the Cabal would love to have happen). I feel no guilt at all for NOT reading posts by people who just make up things to accuse people with. Sheesh. Now if you had said the same thing about Alex Jones? Then I may say, "Hmmm. She may have something there." Not that I want to start a big Alex Jones debate. I'm just saying -- Drake is no Alex Jones...!!!! (Sorry, Alex. I have lost patience with your refusal to do ANYTHING or say ANYTHING to help people remain CALM -- and/or work for SOLUTIONS...!!!)
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    This from Lady Dragon's site.

    Drake calling for emergency alert preparation

    By LadyDragon

    MONTREAL--(LadyDragon.com)26/06/12--Drake just called LadyDragon and told her to put out this emergency news because the White house just put the press Release out - Obama declares a national emergency

    People please know that this emergengy alert operation it is ONLY for The United States.

    -- Drake wants all the US militia on Full Alert

    -- Drake got news that foreigh troups have boots on the ground.

    Drake will release more news on his Wednesday Show.

    Please stay tuned.

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    No Ulli I didn't refrain anymore from Personal any more than you did I was just honest about it. In case you thought you were actually hiding something from me...you're not .

    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    Couldn't you just have stayed with the specifics addressed, rather than get really, really personal?
    I defended Stan only after I saw your unfair statements, which were untrue, and needed pointing out.

    Anyway,
    You know already how I feel about monster posts, so I won't even read more than the few bits I saw.

    Tl;dr

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    Ishtar: Thanks for giving your reason for your impression. However I fail to see how putting the civilian militia on "alert" is being a rabble rouser.

    I personally am NOT a part of any civilian militia, but if I was I would hear it as it was put out -- ALERT and not "Panic," etc.

    I'm more one of the people into spreading calm and awareness when and where I can, whether vibrationally or with communication.

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