The Area 51 'Alien Interview' video

[ulli]

I thought the interview was authentic, but didn't investigate further. I left that part to those who had more means.
But I do remember having feelings of deep sadness which was confirmed when that man (Bob Dean) cried.
At the time I didn't realize it was Bob Dean, as I had not become aware of who he was at that point.
Neither does Victor's request for money, nor his anger disqualify him, in my view.
One cannot know what motivates another when their point of desperation has reached their limits.
He sounds genuinely bitter, and I'm sure there are reasons for his bitterness. This is a huge crime that has been committed to these visitors, in my view.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Strat (here)
The guy who provided the tape ('Victor') was interviewed, again, in '08. Speaking frankly, I find him hard to believe because
1 money was involved
2 he doesn't say anything significant
3 he has a bad temper

I don't know the man personally, so I very well may be wrong. These are just my thoughts regarding the information given. Oh, and here's the updated interview video. It's two parts at about 15 minutes total:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EEFJ_C-wdlw

I watched both parts. A lot of concentration is needed as his voice is so heavily disguised.

My own observations:

1) Chilling and authentic.

2) He's very bitter: he risked his life (and evidently his health) -- and felt that nothing came of what he took so much courage to do.

3) I think there is highly significant information in there that needs further study. Viz:

4) He dismissed the idea of being 2012 as a "Doomsday Year" (he said the Mayans were not quite the mathematicians they believed they were) -- but hinted pointedly that the documentary makers should not bother to plan a 20th anniversary edition. (I'm interpreting that to mean that Victor anticipates, or is aware of, some critical event scheduled to occur before 2017.)

5) In answer to questions about what Rumsfeld knew, he said that he was focused on saving himself -- by leaving the planet. (This may not be as crazy as it at first sounds. Watch this interesting and potentially important testimony to support this, linked below. (Ignore the poor articulacy of "Dutch", the interviewee -- and listen carefully to the key components of the small amount of what he says he knows.)

Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

[Mike]

i can't say definitively what a *real* alien interrogation would look like, or what a real alien would look like for that matter, but somehow i feel i'll know it when i see it.

and this ain't it.

though impossible to quantify, there's something in our dna that allows biological creatures to recognize other biological creatures, almost immediately. it's recognized as a *feeling*, however, not a thought. mentally i could make all kinds of arguments for this video's authenticity, but it seems clear to me that this video is not authentic.

[WhiteFeather]

1997 Art Bell Interviews Victor on this topic along with Sean David Morton.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hHu0ZVj7iYU

[jimmer]

it's a puppet.
make-up, effects expert, rick baker, says it's a poorly operated puppet.
everything about the 'alien's' moves and scene staging is awkward and contrived.
this was done before cgi and really looks suffers for it today.

it's a puppet.

[ThePythonicCow]

The following link will get you to a Youtube playlist that will play all 9 parts of the "Area51 - The ALIEN Interview and 11 Years Later" video, one part (Part 5) of which is WhiteFeather's opening post of this thread:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=76ANi...CED630B8D91F8F

[TheGoldenRule1]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Strat (here)
The guy who provided the tape ('Victor') was interviewed, again, in '08. Speaking frankly, I find him hard to believe because
1 money was involved
2 he doesn't say anything significant
3 he has a bad temper

I don't know the man personally, so I very well may be wrong. These are just my thoughts regarding the information given. Oh, and here's the updated interview video. It's two parts at about 15 minutes total:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EEFJ_C-wdlw

I watched both parts. A lot of concentration is needed as his voice is so heavily disguised.

My own observations:

1) Chilling and authentic.

2) He's very bitter: he risked his life (and evidently his health) -- and felt that nothing came of what he took so much courage to do.

3) I think there is highly significant information in there that needs further study. Viz:

4) He dismissed the idea of being 2012 as a "Doomsday Year" (he said the Mayans were not quite the mathematicians they believed they were) -- but hinted pointedly that the documentary makers should not bother to plan a 20th anniversary edition. (I'm interpreting that to mean that Victor anticipates, or is aware of, some critical event scheduled to occur before 2017.)

5) In answer to questions about what Rumsfeld knew, he said that he was focused on saving himself -- by leaving the planet. (This may not be as crazy as it at first sounds. Watch this interesting and potentially important testimony to support this, linked below. (Ignore the poor articulacy of "Dutch", the interviewee -- and listen carefully to the key components of the small amount of what he says he knows.)

Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

Bill,

I just recently became a provisional member here and I was the one who conducted the interview you cite at the end. Thank you for the attention, as I believe he is being honest about his experiences in the Army. He also has a second interview, where he goes into further detail regarding the things he actually witnessed (Plasma Excavation drills, Prismic UFOs, and anti-gravity craft).

I also have been involved with the disclosure project but, as of yet no formal plans have been made.

[Limor Wolf]

Thanks Paul. I watched it a couple of times by now, and the feeling is that there is something real going on in this scenario, both the interrogation and with 'victor's' testimony. In the above 'newest' edition that Strat linked, 'Victor' seems very distraught, understandably so if what he says (to the best of his knowledge) derives from real information.
Who are his sources than, since he claims that he has left the black projects in 1997? suffice to assume - those who are still deeply involved in those projects and that gives only ONE facet to this world situation, it is not hard to imagaine that the world is at a major risk of eradication, and that is a valid timeline, the Cabal's point of view is well represented in this assumption/knowledge, but isn't it possible that even they don't know it all? very possible.

Another option is that 'Victor' can be mind controlled to some extent, but nothing to prove this and it might also be irresponsible to assume. just a thought

[Peace of Mind]

Saw this a while ago and feel that it’s just more hype material for tricking and persuading the people. IMO, it’s an elaborate hoax. How do we know it’s an interrogation? Why is it so dark that only the head is showing? Are those doctors/scientists examining the alien, if so why do it in the dark? Why hasn’t anyone turn on the light switch? If I’m in a room with this being I would want as much light as possible (not just a flashlight). TBH, I think it’s a puppet because the head/face has what appears to be muscle structure but the face shows no change (expressions) nor those that massive head show any muscle movement…especially when the people( supposedly interrogators) are seen tussling with it.

With all the Alien movies and ramblings about 2012 invasions and such…this old and very inconclusive vid conviently re-surfaces again…just in time to help with a possible staged event. This wouldn’t be the first time the masses have been fooled by a Hollywood style production. I see nothing that will convince me this is authentic, sorry, but I’ve seen better puppeteering in children’s shows. I feel safe to say this vid is just another distraction/propaganda. It’s doing absolutely nothing for us…other than wasting our time blindly promoting fiction….and perhaps secret agendas.

Peace

[jimmer]

Posted by Peace of Mind (here)
Saw this a while ago and feel that it’s just more hype material for tricking and persuading the people. IMO, it’s an elaborate hoax. How do we know it’s an interrogation? Why is it so dark that only the head is showing? Are those doctors/scientists examining the alien, if so why do it in the dark? Why hasn’t anyone turn on the light switch? If I’m in a room with this being I would want as much light as possible (not just a flashlight). TBH, I think it’s a puppet because the head/face has what appears to be muscle structure but the face shows no change (expressions) nor those that massive head show any muscle movement…especially when the people( supposedly interrogators) are seen tussling with it.

With all the Alien movies and ramblings about 2012 invasions and such…this old and very inconclusive vid conviently re-surfaces again…just in time to help with a possible staged event. This wouldn’t be the first time the masses have been fooled by a Hollywood style production. I see nothing that will convince me this is authentic, sorry, but I’ve seen better puppeteering in children’s shows. I feel safe to say this vid is just another distraction/propaganda. It’s doing absolutely nothing for us…other than wasting our time blindly promoting fiction….and perhaps secret agendas.

Peace

bravo. bravo. bravo.

[Limor Wolf]

No video will ever be sufficient to be used as evidence, no photographic material, no testimony even if it is given first hand by miltary personals will have the ability to 'convince' the unconvinced that there are other beings besides human beings, and they are present here on earth at this time. nothing to do with a hoax. people are risking their lives by exposing their experiences or risking humaliation. I guess only a face to face encounter will change one skeptic's mind. skepticism and logic are essential tools and are healthy and necessary, but a total disqualification of enormouse evidence by people from all walks of life is simply not smart.

[Praxis]

I find that this interview with Victor was ok and that what Bill has said is true.
My biggest problem with the interview is saying that the Aliens will judge us all because of the actions of the few people. They are going to kill all humans because of the actions of some of they americans?
Also if the aliens "presented" themselves to "us" as a litmus test, then they did a terrible job of it. Presenting oneself to humanity should occur something like: A Several mile wide mothership hangs over EVERY major city in the world for about an hour all at the same time, with several smaller ships making appearance in smaller cities around the world. Then judge humanity based on its reaction after this show, not what has been witnessed.

The stuff about Cheney being in the know is good to hear, but makes sense due to his length of service in the government. It almost felt that he was implying that W Bush was actually a replicant of some sort. But maybe I am reading too much into his wording and inflections.

I do wonder about the Rumsfeld question. "He is souly/solely interested in becoming one of the ones that makes it off planet."
This is a very interesting statement which says a lot of things. THis means that he became aware of a group of people who are already making plans. Who is this group? I would suspect that H W Bush would be in the know considering his time in CIA. And Rumsfeld is close to that so this makes me think that maybe it is not H W Bush but rather a different group altogether.

[jimmer]

Posted by Limor (here)
No video will ever be sufficient to be used as evidence, no photographic material, no testimony even if it is given first hand by miltary personals will have the ability to 'convince' the unconvinced that there are other beings besides human beings, and they are present here on earth at this time. nothing to do with a hoax. people are risking their lives by exposing their experiences or risking humaliation. I guess only a face to face encounter will change one skeptic's mind. skepticism and logic are essential tools and are healthy and necessary, but a total disqualification of enormouse evidence by people from all walks of life is simply not smart.

those who believe the 'alien interrogation video' to be phony has little to do with
the bigger 'are we alone' question. dissent on this video topic does not disqualify the larger question.
this specific video is a contrivance. that's it.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Limor (here)
No video will ever be sufficient to be used as evidence, no photographic material, no testimony even if it is given first hand by miltary personals will have the ability to 'convince' the unconvinced that there are other beings besides human beings, and they are present here on earth at this time. nothing to do with a hoax. people are risking their lives by exposing their experiences or risking humaliation. I guess only a face to face encounter will change one skeptic's mind. skepticism and logic are essential tools and are healthy and necessary, but a total disqualification of enormouse evidence by people from all walks of life is simply not smart.

Well put Limor. Totally agree with your written words here.

[000]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

I just finished watching this. It certainly corroborates a lot of other witnesses' and whistleblowers' testimonies regarding Roswell.

Some interesting thoughts were catalyzed from watching this video. Although the information was not really anything new, hearing it this time around and from this particular individual brought about a stream of thoughts in me.

Here are the sprigs of wheat which I have let my mind chew on a little:

[1] The deep black military, bloodline families, etc. were naive and gullible in assuming that what the Roswell beings/AIs (and subsequent encounters with similar beings/AIs) were telling them was the absolute truth.

Just because a being says something does not mean it is what is actually on that being's agenda and a thoroughly advanced civilization would of course be expertly patient and wise in knowing precisely what to communicate and how it would play out with regards to chains of Cause and Effect.

[2] Why would a sufficiently advanced civilization in one of an infinity of parallel timelines wish to destroy the bulk of 'we the people' rather than the 'elites'? It seems logical to me to consider that an advanced civilization, in an attempt to repair a timeline/botched civilization (one that has been 'infected' so to speak), would not destroy the innocents but rather the non-innocents (the infection).

Perhaps the beings/AIs deliberately gave false information about 'future events' to those they were communicating with in an effort to guide them to leave Earth alone by literally leaving it (perhaps 'dealing with them' when they have all left). What better way than to get the elites to leave Earth than to play upon their enormous capacity for fear and negativity.

___

Maybe, just maybe, the advanced technology given to the military industrial complex was a masterfully planned carrot-on-a-stick, where in combination with such gloomy information given them by beings which they somehow fell into trusting (through being given technology) the word of these beings (although they may have deliberately told untruths).

Now, of course, these are merely my own thoughts. But I felt compelled to share them (I have not seen them elsewhere to date), and Cause/Effect being what it is, well... the flow changes ever so slightly with every drop injected into it.

Certainly truth is much stranger than fiction and I do feel that, in that being so, there is most certainly a high probability of multiple twists to this strange river we are all in that we may not expect at first blush.

[spuddie]

I saw the 'Interrogation' video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CTfPSsw88P0

[jimmer]

"I saw the video a couple of years ago. I wasn't convinced of its authenticity then; I'm not now. Especially after hearing the special effects guys' expert opinions.

Whilst it does leave a lot to be desired, I'm somewhat convinced by this video; there's just something about the little fella's blinking movements that rings true:"


this one is a whole different kettle of fish.
either an outstanding work of art or the real thing.
when it first was released, the audio track of an off speed projector
called fowl to some. nonetheless, impressive.

[WhiteFeather]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DVyvDvjXFmA

[cloud9]

Posted by TheGoldenRule1 (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Strat (here)
The guy who provided the tape ('Victor') was interviewed, again, in '08. Speaking frankly, I find him hard to believe because
1 money was involved
2 he doesn't say anything significant
3 he has a bad temper

I don't know the man personally, so I very well may be wrong. These are just my thoughts regarding the information given. Oh, and here's the updated interview video. It's two parts at about 15 minutes total:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EEFJ_C-wdlw

I watched both parts. A lot of concentration is needed as his voice is so heavily disguised.

My own observations:

1) Chilling and authentic.

2) He's very bitter: he risked his life (and evidently his health) -- and felt that nothing came of what he took so much courage to do.

3) I think there is highly significant information in there that needs further study. Viz:

4) He dismissed the idea of being 2012 as a "Doomsday Year" (he said the Mayans were not quite the mathematicians they believed they were) -- but hinted pointedly that the documentary makers should not bother to plan a 20th anniversary edition. (I'm interpreting that to mean that Victor anticipates, or is aware of, some critical event scheduled to occur before 2017.)

5) In answer to questions about what Rumsfeld knew, he said that he was focused on saving himself -- by leaving the planet. (This may not be as crazy as it at first sounds. Watch this interesting and potentially important testimony to support this, linked below. (Ignore the poor articulacy of "Dutch", the interviewee -- and listen carefully to the key components of the small amount of what he says he knows.)

Roswell, 2012, and the Great Escape Plan:
http://golden-rule.org/2012/04/24/ro...ws-the-whistle

Bill,

I just recently became a provisional member here and I was the one who conducted the interview you cite at the end. Thank you for the attention, as I believe he is being honest about his experiences in the Army. He also has a second interview, where he goes into further detail regarding the things he actually witnessed (Plasma Excavation drills, Prismic UFOs, and anti-gravity craft).

I also have been involved with the disclosure project but, as of yet no formal plans have been made.

Dear friend:

I watched the first interview and then I started with the second one and I want to say, just in case you haven't notice it yet that in the first seconds of the second interview when "Dutch" leans to the right to pick his coffee up, his face is very visible for one or two seconds but just enough to identify him. If this is important, please fix the video and protect the man.
Thank you.

[Believe]

Could be real, could be fake. They're going to have to declassify the information soon enough. Even if it's real, so what? Its not the first one, and i bet it's not the last. probably fake though, because they would go to great lengths to hide this from the public view. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'm simply not sure if it is real or fake. The "alien" has a hit of yellow. Usually, from what I've read and know is that they are usually grey/green. They are light green/blue/grey ones. I've never heard of a yellowish one. I don't know people, you decide.