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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart. I don't know why I believed this since I've always had love in my heart but my path has been very difficult. This is not to say that I have not experienced joy, for there has been much joy in my life, but pain, confusion, chaos, deceit and grief have far surpassed the joy I've experienced.

    As an ET abductee, I feel like a fool that it took me so long to realize that my beliefs in New Age creating a better world were all ET manipulations. I fully believe that there are people in the New Age movement who really believe that they are doing great work towards freeing humanity. They simply haven't realized that they are manipulated too. Finally, less than two months ago, I had my last Orionite contact while in bed. The Orionites disguised themselves as "good" beings who were there to help me. By the time I realized who they were, I was knocked out unconscious. When I woke up, I was physically sick and filled with fear. But the experienced served a very important purpose for I am now fully aware of the ET deception, decimation of abilities, theft of energy, and downright feelings of descension into insanity. And no, I'm not insane. I am saner than I have ever been, but only because I became aware of the presence which in the past used to take place while I was asleep. I wondered why so many times I would wake up feeling so sick I could barely get out of bed. Now I know.

    So, have I regained who I truly am? No! But I feel that this new found awareness will go a long way in getting me there.

    Awareness of the manipulations is the greatest tool we have right now. And I do trust that awareness will lead us to workable solutions to freeing ourselves and becoming the powerful beings we once were.

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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on gaining your new awareness. That's awesome!
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    And a PS -- against which the list of problems above pales in comparison.

    I genuinely don't yet know exactly what to make of this, but I'm compiling and carefully evaluating some evidence that seems to suggest that the global controllers may be preparing to leave the planet. Not as in exiling themselves, but as in leaving a ship that they believe will sink with no reasonable hope of salvage.

    Remember: their personal sense of commitment is to protect (and manage/ control/ exploit) the human genome... not to take care of individuals, about which they care pretty much as a farmer cares for the fate of individual cows in a very large herd.

    All that farmer wants is to stay in business. He doesn't feel compassion for any cows that suffer, are sick, or go to the slaughterhouse. That's not the game he's playing. His goal is completely different.

    This scenario is not as ridiculous or as impossible as it sounds. I have half a dozen data points, each of which should be taken seriously, that might suggest this, and they all fit together. I'll say no more about this right now, because it's downright scary. I want to prepare some kind of presentation and then submit it for scrutiny and analysis... we're all in this together, folks.
    Wow. Gonna nickname you Bombshell Bill you keep that up.

    This scenario does not scare me at all. If the structures of our civilization began to collapse because the control mechanisms were suddenly pulled, I do not believe that our Friends would let the boat sink. I believe they would step in and help us reestablish stability. There would be interruptions and tragedies, but the end result would be worth it I think.

    Bill, this would make a fine new thread when you have your data collated for discussion.
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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!
    Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

    I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
    Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

    And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

    And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

    All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge, and understanding, and patience, and perseverance...
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    I've always contended that 60 or 70 years ago, new information came onto the scene in regards to future events, and the elite totally shifted gears and consolidated all of their intellectual prowess into one country under project paperclip, consolidated all financing for their accelerated black projects into Bilderberger, and poured massive amounts of focused attention on how to get off this planet.

    The tell tale signs of this can be seen in their utter disregard for the environment, the proper function of commerce, or the ultimate destiny of humankind. Many have asked the question, why would they allow the total destruction of this planet if they intended to continue living here? The observation comes from that fact that they are basically, like a cancer, destroying their host.

    Speculation as to what they learned about an "event" to which they did not want to be here, and needed to accelerate their prowess in stellar technology and off planet bases, are surrounded by ideas of an impending "burp" from the sun, or some other cosmic event which shifts the poles or impacts this planet is some way by another large mass due to gravitational pulls.

    In any event, the elite appear to be voraciously planning for an extinction level event, and have been for at least 70 years, and appear to not care at all about steering humanity towards a favorable destiny and have completely abandoned any semblance of sanity towards stewardship of this planet.

    So what is going on right under our noses while we are distracted by the likes of this thread, or continue to debate 9-11 when in fact 9-11 might have been the perfect 10 years distraction from what?
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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!
    Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

    I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
    Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

    And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

    And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

    All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!
    There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesmen. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.
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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!
    Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

    I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
    Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

    And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

    And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

    All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!
    There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesman. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.
    I agree that amongst the misinformation of religions and spiritual movements many jewels can be found. These are precious and serve us on the path to knowledge.

    But personally, for me true wisdom has always come from within, and painfully, and only in drops.

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    I ran across this a little earlier from *this* blog/alternative news aggregate. It pertains to the Keenan/Scott lawsuit.

    I have not been following the Drake saga (my intuition did not jump out at me tickling me to follow it so I did not).

    The following, if it is for real (I do not know), would imply that mass arrests would not be happening very soon.

    Take from it what you will. I am merely passing along something that is potentially of interest.

    Quote Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published.


    A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.


    I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal.


    There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.


    Blessings,
    Amon


    Now, here is Amon’s original comment:


    The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.


    Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts. From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.


    When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.


    The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.


    While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America.or the American taxpayer.


    What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.


    Amon Christenson.


    When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge.

    Here is his response to us:

    I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.


    Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.


    I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.


    Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.


    Blessings,
    Amon

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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!
    Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

    I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
    Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

    And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

    And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

    All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge!
    There are other threads that discuss this, but before I go back to topic I will just say that the 'New Age Movement" is rife with charlatans, opportunists, and snake oil salesman. This can be said of other spiritual movements and religions as well. This fact does not denigrate from the truths and wisdom that can be found in all of these traditions. Best to you in your search.
    I agree that amongst the misinformation of religions and spiritual movements many jewels can be found. These are precious and serve us on the path to knowledge.

    But personally, for me true wisdom has always come from within, and painfully, and only in drops.
    Ever heard the quote : "In every truth there is lies, and in every lies there is truth" ?
    just to also confirm what you and @Whiskey_Mystic said above

    ~warm regards from Indonesia~

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    I live in an area literally carpeted with guru's, pseudo shamans, pseudo healers, etc etc etc all them playing in their own feces and all them attached into a parasitical energy that they are not aware of . If they are they think its a spirit guide or angels. It would literally make me physically exhausted to be in the these communities with all the power struggles going on between the parasitical energies and their hosts. Their central issues ( I used to be a mediator in the these communities) were each other stealing each other's power. "She crossed the street, forked the evil eye at me and took my power!"

    I used to roll my eyes at this as most lightworkers are involved in some sort of interpersonal drama but on past reflection find that is true in a much deeper context. That is exactly what they were doing feeding off of each other.

    They are not all necessarily in alignment with each other, these parasitical energies (which would work in our favor if we'd wake up to certain realities) but tend to leverage one' s ego so it was quite draining to be among these people and they are quite prevalent. Ther'es not a whole lot of mystics out there with 'true' integrity or clarity.

    I found physical replays among people that reflected what is going on in the realms of the non physical parasitical. A 'master' shaman uploading his students, sending them out corded in to him, and then the students initiating these truly irrelevant rituals that served only to cord their students and participants into them. What was quite interesting about all of this is that people who don't goof around with this nonsense was very off putting to them. Not on civil conduct level, but one can tell they grow uneasy in the presence of someone who's worked at clearing out these attachments on themselves.

    And then some few with the big honking attachments were downright preemptively hostile for no apparent reason.

    The thing is like people who are co dependent on an emotional level, ( i know he beats me but i won't leave him....) you can't tell these people anything. "Uhm...that's not a angel its a parasitical energy feeding on you, your kids, your husband...and really you don't care to know this?"

    The programming won't allow for something, of course, that reveals the program. It used to be these things used to like to run unnoticed and now they are out in the open and blantant as can be these days because people refuse to know that they really are.

    Literally one's host could pop up anywhere and say "I'm an energy vampire' and people will go "Oh cool. Do some energy work on me!"

    I used to find this disturbing but you know what....I really don't anymore. What do you do, weep and moan and roam the halls wringing your hands or detach from how bizarre it all is that people just invite this stuff in. or just ignore it. It's a means of taking control of one's life and mind back but very few want to hear about it.

    What was interesting is these 'cord in ' gurus had a nearly telepathic ability to discern whom may be a threat to them (people who saw something wasn't altogether clear in their fields. ) So one of them "Evan" had a real bug up his arse about me. The thing is I have no idea HOW he even knew about me. He had a student that acted like I was ax murderer when I was around explaining that he , as a shaman, was so sensitive that low density people (like myself....lol) upset his fields. He had an assistant who fielded his calls because he was 'so sensitive' that she had to listen in for strange energy fluxes to protect him

    People eat stories like that up. The thing is if you are THAT sensitive do you really need to be horsing around with parasitical energies. No, he was bit through the bag with them and transfering that energy to his students and the persons he worked with that would come away physically INJURED from these episodes but somehow couldn't manage to put two and two together. These are not energies you move amongst in a fearful way. It's like watching the priests of the Catholic Church fearfully waving crosses and holy water around. "Father, can you give that parasite even more power over all involed than it already has?"

    When I point out the nature of what he was doing, they'd exclaim "he's so nice!" Well yes a very nice fearful man but nice, positive people are attached too. They have a nice positive seeming program running but its still a program.

    People who are less attached are considered ****head- mean. they don't support the program.)

    Then some-other twit started issuing bulletins about how evil I was and I'm thinking HOW does this person know me? They don't. All roads led back to Evan, who had a bone out for me ONLY because I've done a lot of work on myself and can see these things in others.

    Does any of this sound the least bit familiar, if you know what I mean?




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    For many years I was brain washed by the New Age movement which promised "ascension" and that all one needed for this to take place was to have love in one's heart.
    I'm curious. Where did you hear this kind of teaching? It certainly is not taught in the Theosophical texts. When we say "New Age", we need to be clear about what we mean. Otherwise, the term has no meaning.

    Were these things you were getting from books? Thanks.

    Oh and congratulations on regaining your true self. That's awesome!
    Hello Whiskey_Mystic,

    I live in a large city. New Age workshops abound in this area. I spent a lot of money taking these workshops because I thought they would help me free myself whereas the only purpose they served was in thickening the veil.
    Most of the people heading the workshops claimed to be "Angels" who walked into a body. Some claimed to be disciples of Gods and Goddesses. Others claimed to be in their last earthly incarnations, and the list goes on.

    And I haven't exactly regained my true self, as I stated in my post. I'm beginning to be on my way and that is better than who I was before.

    And yes, I am acquainted with Theosophy which I studied for a while. That is another area of deceit but more complicated than New Age. New Age makes everything sound easy and light and wonderful. Love and light is all you need! If only that were true.

    All you need is love - and whole lot of knowledge, and understanding, and patience, and perseverance...

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    Quote Posted by 000 (here)
    I ran across this a little earlier from *this* blog/alternative news aggregate. It pertains to the Keenan/Scott lawsuit.

    I have not been following the Drake saga (my intuition did not jump out at me tickling me to follow it so I did not).

    The following, if it is for real (I do not know), would imply that mass arrests would not be happening very soon.

    Take from it what you will. I am merely passing along something that is potentially of interest.

    Quote Jean, I have watched you blog from time to time and I am very comfortable with what you do. What I am writing now may . . . be published.


    A couple of things you should know that will be helpful to your readers, this being a first.


    I was told this morning by one of my counterparts that Keenan lawsuit has been temporarily withdrawn without prejudice. I think this was smart of Keenan as there is an entire raft of new information that has recently been discovered in Indonesia and this will change the structure of the case into something ten times worse for the Cabal.


    There will be additional defendants and the impact of the case will become even far more explosive. When the withdrawal was made, Judge Furman knew it was going to be refiled and ordered that it be heard only by him. That is very unusual and very telling. Furman has made it clear that he has replaced Judge Holwell to hear this case and only he will hear it. The case will be refiled and the information it contains will shock America.


    Blessings,
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    Now, here is Amon’s original comment:


    The Lien document you see on Divine Cosmos is an administrative claim that substantiates the actual Lien. The Affidavit of Obligation that you see is merely the substantiation of the claim the Lien is based upon and it is directed to the Feds themselves.


    Allow me to explain some background here. The Keenan case started over a theft. Stealing from Keenan was a really foolish thing to do, for anyone who knows Keenan (I met him several months ago in China, and I was there when he told Jay Rockefeller to take a hike in Monaco) should have known that Keenan was never going to allow anyone to get away with that. In the process of going after those who stole from him, Keenan met up with Scott who has worked around these accounts for years. With Scott comes the knowledge of the accounts. From the knowledge of Scott and with his help, Keenan acquired all the books, ledgers and codes held by those who own the gold that the Federal Reserve leases.


    When the owners of the gold and the owners of the accounts that the gold is held in (Scott knows these people and the accounts intimately) realized that through this case they could get the Feds to pay what they had withheld for the past eighty years, they appointed Scott and Keenan and empowered them with full power of attorney and right of control, to have them to recover what the Feds and the Rothschild owned Global Central Banking system had not paid to them as was promised.


    The Liens are for real. The process they are using may not be well known to most people, but it is the most devastating process in existence. These men know exactly what they are doing and they are being well guided in this by Winston Shrout, a person who has been teaching the basis of commerce and law in seminars all over the world. Everything they do is well planned and then executed with precision.


    While the Federal Reserve might argue with this, be sure that Keenan and Scott have such a hold on this gold now that they can pull it out from under the feet of the Feds in a heartbeat. They know how to do it. The question now is, can the Feds now pay the back interest that is owing. The answer to that is…of course they cannot.. The Federal reserve at the end of the day, is just another private company and it’s debts are NOT the debts of America.or the American taxpayer.


    What we are looking at folks, is the demise of the most vile and corrupt institution ever put on Earth, and not just because of Keenan and Scott, but more so because of their own corruption and abuse of the power they were given.


    Amon Christenson.


    When I emailed Amon privately to ask if I might post his Comment, I also asked him, since his name is completely unknown to me, if there anything he could/would share about himself that might help folks to understand how he has come to this knowledge.

    Here is his response to us:

    I am a Guardian of the global accounts assigned by certain National interests who are unhappy at how these accounts have been abused and misused. My main function is to observe and report, but never to intervene.


    Over many years I have watched one man struggle to force this to the surface. He is measured in what he does, but over a long period he has created problems for the cabal and has suffered from all kinds of attacks on his character, but while he is a quiet and rather reserved man, he is as tough as as they come. To him, being listed by the cabal as an economic terrorist, which I suppose he is as far as the cabal is concerned. Not one of the cabal thought or dreamed that he would team up with Keenan, and it is the teaming of these two men that has the cabal so jittery. Keenan is incredibly aggressive, the kind that takes no prisoners. Scott is a gentle soul, a gentleman through and through, but he understands very well what can be done here. The shudder that went through the cabal when they learned Scott and Keenan were together was violently audible. They realized Scott would use the Keenan case as the platform through which he would expose them totally. From that point on, the cabal have thrown one offer to settle after another at Keenan, the last being a fantastic sum of money to just go away. What they have not yet offered is a solution to the wrongs committed by banks everyday as they rob ordinary people.


    I know Scott and have been observing him and what he did at OITC for over 15 years. I have never met him personally and I have never spoken directly to him. This, I can say about him. Never once did he betray the trust placed in him and there is not one instance of fraud can be leveled against him. I have met Keenan twice, and he is tough. This is the kind of guy who would willingly use a baseball bat when he could not beat you with his fists. I was a mere three or four feet away from him in Monaco when he confronted jay Rockefeller who demanded entrance to the meeting of Finance Ministers at the Monaco colloquium. I later met him for an hour in China. A very tough character and very well connected.


    Scott is a friend of Winston Shrout, they met in Cambodia a few years ago and exchanged views on many things. Each has the utmost respect for the other and they are really the best in the world at what they do. There is no doubt in my mind these people will win.


    Blessings,
    Amon
    Cool data 000!

    That's actually the only way the so-called "Federal Reserve" can be taken out since Congress has been rendered useless:
    Quote According to Section 4, part 2 of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913, it says of each of the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks:

    To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.

    Since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, their 20-year charter must have been extended.

    A 20-year charter was also granted to the First and Second Banks of the United States, and both had their charter terminated. Yes, there was a time when privately owned central banks had time-limited charters, and for good reason, due to the havoc they caused.

    12 U.S.C. § 341 : US Code – Section 341: General enumeration of powers shows:

    Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.

    Again, since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, this provision was either changed with some other time limit, or was never changed.

    In fact, it was never changed, and, therefore, their charter doesn’t expire in 2012, and there was never a 99-year charter for the Federal Reserve.

    From: http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21...xpire-in-2012/

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    *********

    Latest from David Wilcock!!!

    The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


    Quote Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

    by David Wilcock
    Full reports at this link:

    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...ntent=FaceBook

    Much love to us all!!
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    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    *********

    Latest from David Wilcock!!!

    The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


    Quote Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

    by David Wilcock
    Full reports at this link:

    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...ntent=FaceBook

    Much love to us all!!
    Wilcock is separating himself from Drake big time, that's what I see reading between the lines and all the other BS he wrote in his blog.....we'll see, the mess is getting messier.

    (is messier a word) ????

    They're shutting er down folk's! by 12-21-2012 or sooner no one will even remember this saga, or who drake is, and if they do they probably will prefer not to even talk about it, or him......

    so much for the grand finally! on to the next outstanding fictional saga!

    From Davids blog;;;;;;;;

    Quote FIRST POSSIBILITY: DEATH THREATS AND DISCREDITATION

    Let's start with the premise that the people Drake spoke to are real people, not conspirators, who have earned his trust and generally want to do the right thing.

    It is possible that these insiders who spoke to Drake have been threatened with death if they did not share this blatantly untrue information with him.

    All it would take is getting in touch with three different people who are in Drake's normal circle of contacts -- and threatening them.

    The purpose could then be to utterly destroy the credibility of the whole "mass arrests" concept.

    In one sudden move -- with a very rapid expiration date -- you crush everyone who has been tracking and supporting this story, and demolish all their hard work.



    GETTING RID OF ALL THE CHANNELERS

    By releasing this dramatic, exciting story, you also destroy the "me too" channelers whose intuitive "sources", flying about in silvery round airliners in the clouds, immediately "verify" the information is correct.

    Most channeling is 10-15 percent accurate intuitive information. This gives it enough of an edge, with provably weird and wonderful stuff, that there is a great story there.

    The remaining 85-90 percent is influenced by the conscious mind's wants, needs and desires -- including any strong beliefs.
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    Finally we hear from Wilcock -- yay!!! =)

    A very interesting possibility considered by Wilcock in his recent blog:

    "FIRST POSSIBILITY: DEATH THREATS AND DISCREDITATION

    "Let's start with the premise that the people Drake spoke to are real people, not conspirators, who have earned his trust and generally want to do the right thing.

    "It is possible that these insiders who spoke to Drake have been threatened with death if they did not share this blatantly untrue information with him.

    "All it would take is getting in touch with three different people who are in Drake's normal circle of contacts -- and threatening them.

    "The purpose could then be to utterly destroy the credibility of the whole 'mass arrests' concept.

    "In one sudden move -- with a very rapid expiration date -- you crush everyone who has been tracking and supporting this story, and demolish all their hard work."


    ******

    (I know of quite a few who have been posting on this thread that certainly would love to destroy anyone's credibility who supports the story of the impending mass arrests, and have often wondered how many of them have been manipulated themselves -- and whether they even know they have been manipulated or not.)

    ******

    Wilcock goes on to say:

    "If Drake was deceived, this type of a move also weakens the actual people who are working to make these arrests a reality -- not just those like Drake who are publicly reporting on it.

    "By taking down the original messenger and all those who side with him and believe he 'must' be right, the movement is destroyed -- and very few people even believe it anymore."


    *******

    ME PERSONALLY -- I STILL BELIEVE IT, EVEN IF WE GET DOWN ONLY TO WILCOCK TO WAIT FOR GREENLIGHT FROM.

    I have seen too many things happening as well that indicate that the impending mass arrests are coming along with a major transition FOR the People.

    As Wilcock pointed out, "In a case like this, if people no longer believe a Mass Arrests scenario is real, they may fail to act when it actually starts happening -- thereby giving the enemy a greater advantage."

    However, my own thinking went more along the lines of Wilcock's second possible scenario:

    "SECOND POSSIBILITY: FAKE 'EM OUT AND ANTICIPATE THEIR MOVES

    "Secondly, even if the people who told this to Drake are indeed the 'good guys', they may have done this to improve their tactical readiness for such an event.

    "Simply put, we may now be witnessing the implementation of an end-stage plan that was worked into the design all along" and later in his blog added, "Given the extraordinary stakes, we can expect that all the best and most classic counter-intelligence tactics will be out in full force as we get close to the end here."

    ABSOLUTELY...!

    and nearer the end of his latest blog, Wilcock added:

    "I feel very positive and confident about our future, and a great sense of relief that we are this close to major change."

    ***********

    AGREED, David...!!! I feel that David Wilcock wrote today's blog very, very well and encourage anyone who is interested in this topic take the time to go to his website and read the whole thing. It's at http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-he...62-green-light

    Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

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    good teachers are always waiting for the chance to become students...

    we all have built in Hinky meters, and our experience is fine tuning it...

    how many get chills looking at someone you've never met, or smile seeing someone approaching.

    as this year is progressing, the awaking we are going through is our connections to those around us getting stronger...

    the Hinky meter is really our Spirit subtly guiding us through life...

    but now those trying to spin us are hitting the wall, the veils have come down, and truth is being known through communications with our Spirit, without words...

    I see even Drake as a teacher, keep em coming...

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    I was wondering when David would chime in. Thanks for the heads up.

    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
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    The "Green Light": Wouldn't It Be Nice?


    Quote Three different insiders independently told Drake that mass arrests are imminent. We spoke personally to Drake on the phone to get you the latest update in this intriguing story.

    by David Wilcock
    Full reports at this link:

    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...ntent=FaceBook

    Much love to us all!!
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    Is this comment directed toward me? This is your forum. If you want me to leave I will at your request. You may think me cynical but frankly I am just following my heart and what I should right now. And also what do you mean by "real" issues ? And how is this distracting to those who don't wish to come here on a free basis? The issues people deal with may be completely different. Each person has his/her own issues to deal with and frankly to me this is a "real" issue. Maybe one that is based on a false promises but a issue nonetheless. And one I have both hope and criticism for. So let us continue the discuss as it is. I await your reply.

    Karl
    Hi, Karl -- no this is is not personal at all. I respect all views. You are here on the forum because we liked and welcomed you here.

    But I have a duty and a responsibility to call nonsense where I see it (and there's been a huge amount of nonsense in the alternative media over the last 12 months). It's my job. I'm an alternative media investigator, but I'm also a teacher and a guide.

    You asked me what the real issues are. They include (but are by no means limited to):

    -- Coming solar events that may well compromise electronic components and the communications/power grid. (Current estimates of timing, as best I know and have been told, are this coming December-January, and maybe in the months following in the first half of 2013.) This has been anticipated for many years. I was advised by a scientist with a Top Secret clearance, name known and supplied, to "either get a lot of sunblock or, better still, go underground".

    -- A financial event (or abruptly deteriorating economic situation: like a financial earthquake or tsunami) in the coming few months -- before the US election -- that will result in the devaluation of the US dollar and rapid inflation in all food, fuel, goods and services in the US. (Possible violent domestic reaction to this is what Doug Hagmann has been talking about. There could be a lot of civil unrest if the transition to a lower value dollar is not smooth. It's quite possible that the USG might not WANT it to be smooth, in order to justify round-up action against the militias.)

    -- Poverty, pollution, extinction of species, disruption of weather patterns, destruction of the rain forest, chemtrails, radiation (Fukushima is a desperately serious, totally unsolved problem)... what more do I need to say?

    -- As Justoneman correctly states, there is a considerable and almost unconfrontable backstage and hidden continuing practice of satanic ritual abuse and sacrifice that fuels and empowers demonic agendas connected with all the above. We're in big trouble on Planet Earth (and have been for several thousand years) -- and only mass awakening and awareness, with the engagement of the mainstream media, will really turn the tide.

    -- People are waking up, and there are changes, but not nearly enough yet. If we win all this, it may take several committed generations to clean up the immense mess. Much of the nonsense in the alternative media (Elenin, 11-11-11, Ascension as in some kind of coming galactic rapture, the Galactic Federation of Light and Mike Quinsey's other delusions (there are benevolent ETs, but they don't operate like that!), so-called, much-hoped-for but never-actually-occurring "mass arrests", and now the ridiculous Drake circus) serves to provide damaging and destructive false hope, to which many have recently become addicted.

    Hanging on to delusional false hope is way easier than confronting the truth, and functions like a kind of opiate that disempowers otherwise intelligent, aware and able people -- like yourself.

    Realize that what I'm saying here is a compliment... not an insult. I'm just explaining what's going on. You are very able indeed -- otherwise we'd not be having this conversation! -- but you, and some others, are backing the wrong horses here.
    Thanks Bill. I appreciate your comments and reply. I also totally agree that these are issues that we will have to deal with. I realized that this event has been draining me very much lately and instead of making me feel better about something happening it has made me worried and more tense. These are probably not things that would happen if I personally felt inside of me that this so called event would happen. And I do understand that and have been looking in myself and my dreams to help me through this point in my life. But nevertheless have more hope in humanity because our future is going to be glorious either way. We are going to make it even though it may be rough so be happy. I didn't decide to come to this planet because it was easy but because I wanted to help in these hard times to come. And some people don't want to hear the truth but I am still there for them and I will continue to plant a seed in their mind to awaken them. I had no hard feelings toward you when I was replying and hope for your best. Best Wishes
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    Ok, I read what David had to say and I do have one issue with it. Whether there are people following the story and believing it or not, what difference does that make to the actual operation? The few thousand people, even a few million, who are watching this story can in no way constitute a consent of the people, so why does it matter? That's why I thought Drake's poll was silly. I believe, as some whistleblower's have said, that if an operation like this were ever conducted, we would hear about it after the fact. And by "we" I mean the vast majority of the population.
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    Well, Drake has assured us that there is a “Green Light” for the military to move forward this week and arrest all of the bad guys in the global cabal, of course, with the help of ET’s sprinkling strategic Faerie dust into the cabal’s nervous systems to render them immobile, so that they cannot sneak away but will actually die and be returned to the Great Central Sun, because several of the States have notified the Hague of their sovereignty, and have extricated themselves from the UNITED STATES corporatocracy and will no longer adhere to the mandates of this corporate government and thus the military has decided to move forward after Drake sent them an ultimatum and told them they better get with it or he will take his militia buddies and take matters into his own hands.

    BUT, if IN FACT there are over 28 States which have IN FACT severed their ties to the corporate UNITED STATES to where the military can IN FACT act on the peoples behalf, then why not follow the ONLY Constitutional provision written into the Constitution by our forefathers who foresaw the inevitability that tyranny would one day take over the representative Republic of the Sovereign States of original colonies, and CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

    IF the restoration of this Republic is the ultimate goal ,and the rescission and repeal of the 13th amendment and all subsequent amendments, as well as the Federal Reserve’s fiat money system at interest, and the unlawful income tax, and the many alphabet agencies which do the cabals bidding being abolished as well as the military acting as the cabal’s global police force, then CALL A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!

    The Constitutional Convention IS THE ONLY PROVISION written into the Constitution for the people to restore representative government, by 28 states calling for one, and the immediate repeal of all unlawful acts, executive orders, and amendments. THIS IS the provision our forefathers put into the Constitution because they saw the inevitability of tyranny eventually recapturing our representative Republic.

    One fell swoop, it’s all solved, LAWFULLY AND PEACEFULLY.
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    Default Re: Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

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    Well, Drake has assured us that there is a “Green Light” for the military to move forward this week and arrest all of the bad guys in the global cabal, of course, with the help of ET’s sprinkling strategic Faerie dust into the cabal’s nervous systems to render them immobile, so that they cannot sneak away but will actually die and be returned to the Great Central Sun, because several of the States have notified the Hague of their sovereignty, and have extricated themselves from the UNITED STATES corporatocracy and will no longer adhere to the mandates of this corporate government and thus the military has decided to move forward after Drake sent them an ultimatum and told them they better get with it or he will take his militia buddies and take matters into his own hands.

    BUT, if IN FACT there are over 28 States which have IN FACT severed their ties to the corporate UNITED STATES to where the military can IN FACT act on the peoples behalf, then why not follow the ONLY Constitutional provision written into the Constitution by our forefathers who foresaw the inevitability that tyranny would one day take over the representative Republic of the Sovereign States of original colonies, and CALL FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION?

    IF the restoration of this Republic is the ultimate goal ,and the rescission and repeal of the 13th amendment and all subsequent amendments, as well as the Federal Reserve’s fiat money system at interest, and the unlawful income tax, and the many alphabet agencies which do the cabals bidding being abolished as well as the military acting as the cabal’s global police force, then CALL A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!

    The Constitutional Convention IS THE ONLY PROVISION written into the Constitution for the people to restore representative government, by 28 states calling for one, and the immediate repeal of all unlawful acts, executive orders, and amendments. THIS IS the provision our forefathers put into the Constitution because they saw the inevitability of tyranny eventually recapturing our representative Republic.

    One fell swoop, it’s all solved, LAWFULLY AND PEACEFULLY.
    He actually does mention that we need a referendum to the constitution in his latest update. Check it out. But until I see action I won't start believing.

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/latest-updates/

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