Rupert Murdoch Tweets - Scientologists are "CREEPY, maybe even EVIL"..!

[jackovesk]

Scientologists are creepy, Murdoch tweets

Jul 2 2012

Media mogul Rupert Murdoch has sparked outrage after describing Scientologists as "Creepy, maybe even Evil" in a tweet about Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise.



The News Corp chairman and chief executive posted the comment on Twitter yesterday morning, a day after news broke that Holmes had filed for divorce against Cruise, who is renowned as a passionate Scientologist.

Holmes is seeking sole custody of their daughter, Suri, amid speculation she was trying to save her daughter from a strict Scientologist lifestyle.

"Watch Katie Holmes and Scientology story develop. Something creepy, maybe even evil, about these people," Murdoch tweeted.

Murdoch's tweet may have been prompted by reports that Holmes believes she is being followed.

According to TMZ, the actress fears Scientology views her as a threat to the organisation and that people have been tracking her moves in recent weeks.

Murdoch later tweeted that he had been "attacked" online for his post.

"Since Scientology tweet hundreds of attacks. Expect they will increase and get worse and maybe threatening. Still stick to my story," he tweeted.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/849...murdoch-tweets

PS - I did'nt post this to add to the TomKat gossip...

I posted it because of what Murdoch tweeted...

The Church of Scientology in my mind is exactly what Murdoch tweeted "Creepy & Evil" and its high time this 'Bogus Organisation' went down...

Obviously Murdoch knows way more than he is letting on by the way he tweeted his view. We know Rupert is a shrewd customer and does'nt offer much social commentary and has a Media Empire to really express his opinion...

So the Question needs to be asked - "Why did he post such a Tweet..?"

...to add to the story, then I found this 'Headline's in todays (Murdoch owned Newspapers) aswell

All of Tom Cruise's wives Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes were aged 33 when their marriages ended

July 02, 2012

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ent...-1226413644312

&

"The main issue seems to have been Scientology. Cruise is vocal in his support of the religion; his Catholic wife is not. Cruise has been branded "creepy" and "weird" because of his devotion, and it even led to "offensive and very upsetting" allegations Suri was conceived from the frozen sperm of the faith's founder, L. Ron Hubbard."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ent...-1226413180950

&

Who are the mysterious men following Katie Holmes?

Holmes believes devotees of Cruise's Church of Scientology are watching her every move.



http://www.perthnow.com.au/entertain...-1226414378467

Rupert Murdoch Tweets - Scientologists are "CREEPY, maybe even EVIL"..!

Talk about the "The pot calling the kettle black..!"

My Question - "Is this commentary from Murdoch the beginning of a 'Takedown' of the Church of Scientology..?"

Message to Mods: If you think this 'Thread' belongs elsewhere or is totally irrelevent..? Feel free to 'Remove or Delete' it...

[Ellisa]

That doesn't sound like Rupert!

I know it means nothing really and, yes it's irrelevant--- but that 33 thing IS creepy!

[David Trd1]

Interesting post.

i try to steer clear of such drama,i find celebrities distractions for the mind.

But from my understanding the early discoveries/teachings of Hubbard have been twisted and diluted and the ''church'' has been assimilated in the last 30 years particularly to a control system beneficial to ''the'' control system when it had its roots in self empowerment at its beginnings.

Although i imagine there is more than meets the eye here as always

[jjjones]

jackovesk and pa friends, a few tidbits of info. this is regarding katie and tom's prenep. in event katie and tom's marriage withstood "11" ELEVEN years time, katies prenep would become void. in event of a divorce after marriage exceeding "11" ELEVEN years time, katie becomes entitled to1/2 of the combined assests and money accured by them since date of their marriage. state of california as (community property). fyi L. ron hubbard was a freemason who belonged to aleister crowley o.t.o, order of oriental templars, a satanic masonic lodge know as "agape". how about the rupert murdoch comment/info and #33 and #11? i find it interesting and odd that murdoch is communicating with the sheeple, chattle and useless eaters as the so called top of the pyramid elitists call the people/slaves beneath them. i question motives also, if anyone finds out more info, plz let us know. Suri looks just like her mother. i wonder whose sperm was used? i hope katie gets custody. she and suri are being followed 24/7 by "tom thumb" & his henchmen/gofers. thank you for the thread and everyone's replies, enjoyed them. namaste, peace and love universally

[Star Tsar]

The MSM is vile.
A family split & all they do is titilate they disgust me.

[Flash]

Alikes recognize each other.

Murdoch know how to recognize creepy and evil.

[Arrowwind]

ya, its like the pot calling the kettle black.
Murdock is pretty creepy and likely evil all unto himself.
and who really gives a flip anyway?
just more drama for those who seem to need it.

[jackovesk]

By observing how this TomKat Saga plays out...

WILL give you an 'Excellent Example' of just how the likes of Rupert Murdoch influences Public Opinion and REINFORCES the notion that Murdoch has (Way-To-Much) Power...

...IRONICALLY with the WorldWide TomKat Media-Frenzy taking hold,

...It won't be Rupert Murdoch who takes down the 'Church of Scientology'...

...It will be the 'MUMS of the The World' that do..!



How Katie did it. Holmes secretly changed cellphones, e-mail addresses, assistants before split
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ent...-1226417710041

All Murdoch did was 'Light-The-Fuse' & the (MSM-Vultures & the Mum-Sheeple) will do the rest...

Christ Almighty - We live in a Fickle & Shallow 'Fuked-Up' world, very Sad, very SAD indeed...

The 'Entire Story' writes like a Day Time - Soap Opera, complete with Hero (Katie), Villan (Tom & Scientology) & the Innocent (Little - Suri)...

What the MSM doesn't openly inform the public, is that Katie had to 'Audition & Be Vetted' by the Church of Scientology before she took on the role of Tom's (Beard)...

Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes 'Marriage Contract': The Origins Of An Urban Legend

"That urban legend probably grew out of a misunderstanding of what actually did occur," said Tony Ortega, editor-in-chief of the Village Voice, in an email to The Huffington Post. Ortega claimed that "several young women were vetted by the church and 'tried out' as Tom's next wife before Katie Holmes was chosen" and that each was required to sign multiple nondisclosure agreements before they dated Cruise -- a "standard procedure in the church."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ir=Los+Angeles

[Hervé]

Yep!

Scientologists -- especially the early ones -- were/are definitely "creepy" from the point of view of the likes (media moguls) of Murdoch.

Here is why, from a little known, definitely not broadcasted nor made fun of, history of the behind the scenes dirty tricks:

SMERSH: suppressive control groups on the planet all lumped under the name of SMERSH, but which included the infamous World Federation for Mental Health, and a few other World-type of organizations, that were all headquartered in Switzerland.

We did missions to find out more about those, who was in them, who the bad guys were, who the good guys were, all that kind of thing, and the English started attacking in the press when we started doing this stuff around the last part of 1967. You'll see some - if you research the newspapers of those times - you'll find some really heavy-duty attacks on the Sea Project and so on like that and especially when we went up to get the 'Royal Scotsman' in December of '67 - no, late in November.

I must tell you, that during the summer of '68 is when the ban came in England, and that was a direct attack by the enemy on Scientology.

It was banning all foreign Scientologists from England. It was not a law. It was just an instruction sent down from a guy named Kenneth Robinson, the Home Secretary. He just issued an order on instructions from the head bankers in England, who were getting their instructions from the head "honchos" in Switzerland, which are the guys at the top of the ladder, as you will find out on RJ67. And there's one guy that actually is the chief of those, and we know who that is - a guy named Strasbourg, J. Strasbourg, Herr J, Mr. J. He's the guy behind the scene that tells the bankers what to do and they tell the various government officials who owe them money. (Not the government officials, but the government owes them money.)

So, those scenarios, now, are very sophisticated and they're all programmed on computers and so on like that, so that the governments are totally under the control of these bankers. Whenever you find a country in debt, you'll find these control lines in it, very heavily, including the United States.

Especially the United States, the politicians under control, the newspapers under control, the medical services, the psychiatric services, the military, all under control. Not by their own elected representatives, but by these bankers.

Now, those were the things we were finding out then, that the world was not really running just randomly, it was running under a nice suppressive plan to keep everyone enturbulated, so they couldn't look and see what it was.

[...]

Just to show you that '74 was a nice year for attacks, we went back to the ship. And in September of that year, or early October, was when the "Rock Festival" happened in Madera.

I say "Rock Festival". It's not a musical event. It was a war, actually. That was when the American Embassy had tipped off the local Communist Party there that the 'Apollo' was a CIA ship. Portugal had just gone through the throes of its revolution, so at the time it was very 'left wing'.

And the Communists formed a big mob with torches and stones and rocks and everything and they came down to burn the ship. About 250 of them. And we fought them off for two hours and finally the local maritime police showed up with machine guns and dispersed the mob after they had knocked the Harbor-Master nearly unconscious in front of our ship with a 'two by four'. And we took him on board, gave him First Aid and he called some tug-boats and took us out to anchor where we would be safe.

At that point, LRH said - there was also some guys of our crew chased with knives down the street and so on - but still, no one got hurt from our side. Well, two people got knocked out by rocks, but they just didn't stay down. But none of the family was hurt. LRH was not hurt. Mary Sue was not hurt. Nobody else was hurt.

And LRH decided then that it was time to leave this area. It was getting a little bit too agitated by these US Government people. When we traced back the lines it always came from the United States and that was when a guy named Henry Kissinger was the Secretary of State. The orders were coming from his office through the Embassies and CIA.

[...]

So we went down to the Caribbean, through the Bahamas and so on. And finally the State Department of the United States with Kissinger at the wheel - you know Kissinger is one of the top SMERSH guys, as you know - a Public Relations man normally, although he opens his mouth a little bit too much most of the time - but he's one of the 'evil beings' on the planet.

He then started telexing his Embassies and so on in Barbados and Curacao, and what's the name of that place with all the oil and stuff there? Oh yeah - I've got it written right here - Oh yeah, I know what it is. This goes into 1975, I've just got to bring you up a year. Barbados, Trinidad and Curacao. We had attacks in all those places.

We were able to handle most of them because these countries are very small. We did get asked to leave a few ports and nobody could understand why, except it was some 'pressure' from the United States, they would "cut their foreign Aid" or something if they did (welcome us).

We also captured some telexes directly from the State Department that gave these orders and these were used in a lawsuit that LRH asked to be brought against Kissinger, the State Department, and several other named Embassy and American consular officials. And it was filed in the United States. An 800 million dollar lawsuit against Henry Kissinger and other people in the State Department, who were in office at the time, by the way.

Now, the United States Government went through a whole series of convolutions to keep this a secret. It never appeared in the press.

[...]

That suit is now being pushed, pushed, pushed in 1975 through the courts in the United States, trying to get somebody to open it up, make it public, accept it, DO IT, see?
And I went out there in August, 1978. Now, just before I arrived there - the first thing I found out there when I arrived is - there's no GO (Guardian Office) there, there's absolutely no GO there, and the GO is prohibited from being there and the CMO (Commodore Messenger Office) and the SU (Special Unit) people are prohibited from talking to the GO, or any GO terminal, or having any written comm to the GO, or any kind of connection with the GO. And this is because LHR had kicked out any GO terminals from SU.

And he had done that for a very simple reason. They had grossly non-complied with his order. Because in 1978 the indictment came down on the "nine" (and Mary Sue) that the FBI had done from the files that were stolen from the Church. And LRH had offered, right away, he had ordered the GO lawyers and so on, to TRADE the Kissinger 800 million dollar suit to the government. See, because it was quite embarrassing to them. And it was embarrassing to SMERSH, too.

And it was getting a little more play now. I think one Washington paper had mentioned it. So he offered to trade that suit off: To say we "have insufficient evidence" if you say you "have insufficient evidence" in the Mary Sue and nine conspirators case.

That was his order. To trade those two, equal off. They drop the case against Mary Sue and the nine. We drop the case on Kissinger.

The GO didn't do that. They traded that suit for one of the IRS appeal suits. And LRH was so mad at them that he kicked them all off of the SU area and he wouldn't have any more comm with them. He warned Mary Sue at the time,"There's something wrong in the GO. There's something very wrong in there. They're not complying. They're not acting as if they are on our side".

And Mary Sue didn't get the word. She didn't look hard enough, or she didn't believe it, or there were too many people on her lines telling her that things were "other" than what LRH was saying.

But in actual fact, the people on her Controller's Committee, right underneath her, and between her and Jane (because they were senior to Jane) there were two people on it that were working for the government. And they were James Mulligan and Anne Mulligan.

All right.

(A DEBRIEF by CAPT. W. B. Robertson RA, Sector 9, May, 1982 http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_cbr_db.htm)

And that was the end of the original "Church of Scientology Organization," it was already infiltrated by then (1978).

****************************************************************

Addendum:

I was looking for where Vivek posted an excerpt from William "Bill" Cooper mentioning that the cabal headquarters were located in Switzerland..

Found it:

Posted by Vivek (here)
Exerpts from The Secret Government by William Cooper
[...]

During the era of the United States initial space exploration and the Moon landings every launch was accompanied by alien craft. A Moon base dubbed Luna was sighted and filmed by the Apollo astronauts. Domes, spires, tall round structures which look like silos, huge "T" shaped mining vehicles which left stitch-like tracks in the lunar surface, and extremely large as well as small alien craft appear in the photographs. It is a joint United States, Russian, and Alien Base. The Space Program is a farce and a unbelievable waste of money. Alternative 3 is a reality and is not at all science fiction. Most of the Apollo Astronauts were severely shaken by this experience and their lives and subsequent statements reflect the depth of the revelation and the effect of the muzzle order which followed. They were ordered to remain silent or suffer extreme penalty, death, which was termed an "expediency". One astronaut actually did talk to the British producers of the TV expose "Alternative 3" confirming many of the allegations.

In the book Alternative 3 the pseudonym "Bob Grodin" was used in place of the astronaut's identity. It was also stated that he committed suicide in 1978. This cannot be validated by any source and I believe that severe so-called facts in the book are really disinformation. I firmly believe that this disinformation is a result of pressure put upon the authors and is meant to nullify the effect upon the populace of the British TV expose "Alternative 3". The headquarters of the international conspiracy is in Geneva, Switzerland...

[...]

See this post <---

[Hervé]

As far as I am concerned, the lady's got more balls than her soon-to-be ex-husband who swallowed Miscavige's cajolings hook, line, sinker and pole.

For a balanced view on the whole mess see this blog: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

Incidentally, the author of the blog used to be Tom Cruise's "auditor" who managed to recover him to Scientology after a 10 year hiatus. Ever since biting his fingers about it.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Nice deflection there Rupert the bear

[Cjay]

Posted by watchZEITGEISTnow (here)
Nice deflection there Rupert the bear

Slime is like scum floating on swamp gas (methane, aka farts). Who wins in a slime vs. scum slanging match? You stink! You stink worse! Maybe both?

What's the bet, Fox has a new Tom Cruise movie coming out soon? Good publicity is good publicity. Bad publicity is GREAT publicity.

[Bo Atkinson]

Leave it to the vampires of media to sucker readers along forever... Sell, sell. sell. Funny though that Amer's long quote above mentioned my years of involvement (exactly those highlighted years alone), with sci'trollogie, where most years between i was out of it... I learned a lot though. It was better than the regular matrix colleges. They taught me a lot of street wise lessons, but my best thing was being fairly poor. That keeps a person out of trouble. Blessed are the poor. If they learn not to 'want'.

[danceblackcatdance]

apparently they use trance state and an 'e-meter' to interrogate from the age of 6..link: scientology-s-interrogation-of-children

SECURITY CHECK CHILDREN

HCO WW Security Form 8

The following is a processing check for use on children.

Be sure the child can understand the question. Rephrase it so he or she can understand it. The first question is the most potent.
Children's Security Check

Ages 6--12

What has somebody told you not to tell?
Have you ever decided you did not like some member of your family?
Have you ever taken something belonging to somebody else and never given it back?
Have you ever pretended to be sick (ill)?
Have you ever made yourself sick (ill), or hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?
Have you ever wanted something very much, but never told anybody about it?
Have you ever gotten yourself dirty on purpose?
Have you ever refused to eat just to worry someone?
Have you ever remembered something about yourself and not told anybody, because you thought they wouldn't believe you, or be angry at you?
Have you ever refused to obey an order from someone you should obey?
Have you ever told another child something that wasn't true, just to frighten or upset him?
Have you ever bullied a smaller child?
Have you ever deliberately got another child, or a grown-up, into trouble?
Have you ever pestered older children, or grown people, who were trying to work?
Have you ever been mean, or cruel, to an animal, bird or fish?
Have you ever forgotten to give food or water to a pet entrusted to your care?
Have you ever broken something belonging to someone else?
Have you ever deliberately spoiled clothing of yours because you didn't like it?
Do you have a secret?
Have you ever noticed something wrong with your body that you were afraid to tell anybody about?
Have you ever done anything you were very much ashamed of?
Is there anything about you your parents could not understand, even if you told them?
Have you ever failed to finish your schoolwork on time?
Have you ever flunked an examination at school?
Have you ever deliberately given a teacher trouble?
Have you ever tried to make others dislike some teacher?
Have you ever tried to make another child unpopular?
Have you ever broken, damaged, or taken, any school property?
Have you ever lied to a teacher?
Have you ever been late to school, or late to a class?
Have you ever stayed away from school, when you could have gone?
Have you ever cheated by copying someone else's work, taking notes into an examination, or looking up answers in a book when you weren't supposed to?
Have you ever spoiled things for somebody?
Who have you made guilty?
Have you ever done something you shouldn't when you were supposed to be in bed or asleep?
Have you ever told others bad stories about someone?
Have you ever tried to make others believe that your parents, or teachers, were cruel to you?
Have you ever offered as an excuse for something you have done wrong that you are only a child, or that you haven't grown up yet?
Have you ever felt that your parents and home were too good for you?
Have you ever felt that your parents and home weren't good enough for you?
Is there anything you should tell your parents, and never have?
Have you ever done something to your body that you shouldn't have?
Have you ever done anything to someone else's body that you shouldn't have?
Have you ever told anyone that you did something, when you hadn't really done it?
Have you ever told anyone that you hadn't done something which you really had done?
Have you ever ganged up on another child and made fun of him because he was different from the rest of you?
Have you ever made fun of another because of the way he looked?
Have you ever decided never to talk to someone again?
Have you ever made your parents or teachers work harder than they should?
Have you ever decided that you were too bright, or too smart for the other kids?
Have you ever annoyed an adult by something you did or said?
Have you ever hurt a child?
Have you ever made a child cry?
Have you ever made a child sulk?
Have you ever kept another child from having something that really belonged to him?
Have you ever found anything and failed to return it to its owner?
Have you ever told stories about someone behind their back?
Have you ever lied to escape blame?
Have you ever not told the whole truth about something so as to protect someone?
Have you ever felt ashamed of your parents?
Have you ever felt ashamed of your friends?
Have you ever disappointed your parents?
Have you ever run away when you should have stayed?
Have you ever felt sure your parents wouldn't understand something that had happened in school, so you didn't tell them?
Have you ever not told teachers something about your family because they wouldn't understand it?
Have you ever failed to keep another child's secret?
Have you ever felt it was just no use talking to someone?
Have you ever hurt someone you didn't mean to?
Have you ever been sloppy about your clothes or possessions?
Have you ever cried when you shouldn't have?
Have you ever been a coward?
Have you ever made too much fuss over a little hurt?
Have you ever tried to make your parents believe you were doing better in school than you were?
Have you ever told on anyone?
Have you ever teased younger children?
Have you ever made a mess and not helped to clean it up?
Have you ever broken or damaged something and never told anybody it was you who did it?
Have you ever let someone else get punished for something you did?
Have you ever cried till you got your own way?
Have you ever decided "Someday, when I'm grown up, I'll get even"? If so, with whom?
Have you ever picked on someone smaller than yourself?
Have you ever upset anyone by throwing a temper tantrum?
Have you ever hurt anyone by telling them you didn't love them any more?
Have you ever made out that you were more badly damaged than you were in order to make someone stop picking on you?
Have you ever pretended to like someone that you didn't like in order to satisfy your parents?
Have you ever done anything wrong according to your own religion?
Have you ever not understood why someone was angry with you?
Have you ever pretended not to understand what you had done wrong?
Have you ever pretended not to understand what someone wanted you to do?
Have you ever been in places where your parents didn't want you to go?
Have you ever spied on anyone?
Have you ever made friends with people your parents didn't approve of?
Have you ever thought someone was crazy?
Have you ever broken up a friendship?
Have you ever let your team, or school, or club down?
Have you ever tried to keep someone from making friends with another child?
Have you ever pretended not to hear your parents or teacher?
Have you ever made a fuss about doing something that your parents or teacher wanted you to do?
Have you ever done something to someone that you'd hate to have done to you?

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder

Hubbard, L. R. (1961, 21 September). Security Check Children. The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology. (1991 ed., Vol. VI, pp. 290-5). Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc.

Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/sciento...#ixzz1zpa1bAuk

[eni-al]

Scientology has always been controversial and twisted. I think its purely all financial motive these days, rather than trying to preserve a religion. Its not too far from a criminal organisation, its probably only the fact that's its allowed because its marked as a 'religion'. I'm betting Tom Cruise has some substantial influence, so what he loses in this divorce he'll rake back from the lower ranks.
The whole religious side is probably just used as tool to get people to submit and believe in something that at the time seems genuine but will just take from and abuse them.
I'm not much of a fan of Tom Cruise, he had his good days, but now with the typical celebrity trash, he's just one of them and cashes in on his name rather than anything creative.

As for Murdoch, the leader of a media empire, what more to say, I need to see what people have replied with.
What I found annoying was his son, James Murdoch, said that the BBC is a threat to independent journalism. Says he, part of a multi-billion dollar corporation, who also were on the road to takeover BSkyB, and are, or have been, buying other businesses. The context in which he meant was more financially based, as the BBC is funded by the license fee and other companies support themselves so more prone to collapsing, but I think the threat News Corp poses the more media they control, the more it can be used to favour them and be manipulated in favour of anyone else.

[Bill Ryan]

-------

A reminder to all:

The 'Scientologists' under discussion in this thread are those who are members of the Church of Scientology. There are also many tens of thousands of Scientologists who have either left the 'Church', or who were never in it.

This is known among Scientologists as the "Free Zone" -- a term coined in the early 80s by 'Captain' Bill Robertson, whom I knew personally.

Some of the Free Zone Scientologists are among the finest, most grounded, most ethical, most able, and most awake and aware people I've ever had the privilege to meet. Many of them keep a low profile (so as not to antagonize the 'Church') -- but they are nonetheless doing their part to change the timeline on this planet.

[Daughter of Time]

My best friend is an ex-scientologist. He left the church when he realized it had been infiltrated and was no longer serving the purpose of freeing the human soul.

He is the sanest person I know. He is indeed awake and aware, ethical, understanding, compassionate. I can talk to him about anything and never feel judged.

I'm not defending the church. But what he learned as a result of his sessions in that organization, have helped him to become a person of even more integrity than he previously had, and he helps others along the way.