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    Quote Posted by the_vast_mystery (here)
    Here's what I don't get, why do they even still offer dates if they obviously can't keep them? These same complaints regarding "Don't criticize us for missed deadlines!" falls on deaf ears when they keep setting deadlines. When game companies got sick of this, they stopped issuing release dates all together. Why is it they'd keep putting out this sort of info of not to just keep people perpetually on the hook? They tantalize with "soon, soon" until people get sick, then issue a deadline, it passes, more "soon, soon" lather, rinse, repeat.
    It seems to me that people want to interpret what Drake said in the most rigid way possible.

    No "deadline" was set to be missed. A red light would be a deadline.

    A green light would be the opposite of a deadline. A beginning. You know...."let the games begin" sort of thing.

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    Oh yes blame the observer.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    The Soviet Union never fell! They regrouped and got more votes at the UN! That would be like America falling apart so each State becomes it's own country and we each get one vote at the UN when in fact we are all still tied together. The Soviets have been amassing a huge military in their downfall, and is a force reckoned with.
    I agree. IMO the fall of the Soviet Union, although some may disagree, was a horse and pony show. Just like the fall of the Roman Empire or the defeat of the Nazi regime. I feel that each one of these events was instigated and carried-out as a "let's please the masses before they have the chance to see who we are and what we're responsible for" (they know this would be their demise) and all the while these events were being used by the cabal to retreat, rethink, reseat, and reformulate their mode of control.

    I feel that each state/province should be considered it's own country, and also have representation at the UN.

    (I would really rather dismantle the UN as it is now- we then could formulate a better world union)

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    Quote Posted by gripreaper (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    The Soviet Union never fell! They regrouped and got more votes at the UN! That would be like America falling apart so each State becomes it's own country and we each get one vote at the UN when in fact we are all still tied together. The Soviets have been amassing a huge military in their downfall, and is a force reckoned with.
    Geez Unified Serenity, why do you always keep bringing the truth all the time and spoiling all the fun?


    I can feel the sting of truth too. It's sometimes hard to listen to. There are also revelations that are hard to watch. No need to apologize US, these things truly need to be said.

    As soon as we all can take these "blows to the chin" (accepting painful truth) we can move on and buy each other drinks and laugh about it. We are all in this. Let's get to getting, and get this over with. I have an everlasting glory to get to.
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    I did note further upthread about the <deleted>, and how the teachers students are more often the ones who frame them in the poorest light and some general remarks about how we demean ourselves.

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    Quote Posted by Kimberley (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Just got a reply from David (Icke) that was highly entertaining -- and also laser-sharp in its perception. He's a very good man, and I hold him in the highest regard.

    I've asked for his okay to post it -- suggesting that he might want to tone it down a little for pubic consumption(!).
    **************

    And so I /we are waiting with baited breath...what was the reply???? plz , plz pretty plz do share with us when you can dear brother Bill!!!!

    So many of the nay Sayers and pro Sayers are awaiting your guidance... however I am not .....Just asking for those that look to outside guidance...such as you Bill. I am asking that we/you go within and not rely on outside gurus or guidance...trust YOU not anyone else!!!

    I suggest that we transcend out side guidance and go with-in and trust our own inner guidance...not Bills or any one other/s than yourself... I have no gurus or leaders outside myself... although I witness so many that rely on Bill Ryan's guidance or other out side guidance... I want to remind us that your best path is to go within and not listen to anyone other than yourself!!!!!

    Much love us as all... plz remember that you are unique and your remembering of your uniqueness is the key to your inner power... please remember that!!! Please wake up to that!!



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    Quote Posted by Maunagarjana (here)
    It seems to me that people want to interpret what Drake said in the most rigid way possible.

    No "deadline" was set to be missed. A red light would be a deadline.

    A green light would be the opposite of a deadline. A beginning. You know...."let the games begin" sort of thing.
    Then Drake is shirking his responsibility as PR for not immediately addressing and correcting misconceptions. Look at the White House Press Corps, I know I know gubbmint' evil and all, but still. How they conduct themselves is a model of good PR. People ask questions, things are explained, clarified, and constantly hashed out so there can be no question as to what was meant by something said. Obviously they do this for more nefarious purposes but it does serve as the perfect example of the process of conducting good PR. Allowing your target audience to run wild on speculation is not something any good PR spokesman does and if this is his "job" for the resistance then he is obviously not doing his due dilligence on it if he can't figure these things out and address them.

    It goes back to the factual inconsistencies with the legal documentation he came out with on Day 1. It is simply inexcusable for him to not only make those errors, but ignore them when pointed out by others and refuse to clarify the statement or admit there was an error. It is extremely unprofessional and unbecoming of someone claiming to be seriously interested in this sort of thing. Yes, I put that kind of responsibility on him because in this "Real world" those are the sorts of responsibilities expected of any PR spokesperson representing a brand or a legitimate good cause.

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    Quote Posted by SKAWF (here)
    the thing is, game producers have one deadline and stick to it,
    with the odd change every now and then....

    so what do we end up with now?

    games that have to be patched on the day of release because of bugs in the program
    and many frustrated gamers who have been waiting for months even years for the game to come out,
    only to find that it doesnt work properly (i have been there..... Skyrim anyone?)
    lol
    and we say, i dont mind waiting a bit longer for them to make sure its all working properly,
    rather that, than ending up throwing the controller at the TV!

    you cant patch something as big as this situation after its been put in motion.
    Actually the major players (former 3D Realms, Blizzard, Id Software, Bethesda, etc.) used to consistently have problems with release dates on their major titles because they'd run into a lot of unpredictable issues during development or QA that required significant reworking. These were all respectable companies that had a history of quality software but the fans were getting sick of being jerked around with dates.

    They all moved to say "When it's done!" and did that for quite a while until they finally got a handle on when they could accurately project their release dates. The end result is now the fans are happy (they're not being jerked around) and the developers are happy (they have as much time as needed to polish their titles to perfection.) So it seems rather silly if they're so often having their dates being compromised by events beyond their control that they would even hint that they could predict when the end or a "green light" would occur.

    If they cared, they'd adopt the "When it's Done!" strategy and inform us the moment they were about to hit the streets. The "Green Light" we got was supposedly just that and now no deployments. Is it not perhaps obvious now why such things are viewed with suspicion? When a series of game software companies can plan a more competent media release strategy then a supposed coordinated global military/police effort that's been "in the works" since the 70s?
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    Today: DRAKE reports today that "the Pentagon wants this information to go viral":

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-WANTS.....pdf

    or (same link made into a short url):

    http://alturl.com/wf89i

    Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

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    One more message from DRAKE today:

    Notice to the World was delivered to the Office of Private International Law at the Hague:

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-the-world.pdf

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    The url http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-WANTS.....pdf

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. incorporated on 4/19/1989 as a non-profit religious corporation and agent name is THE COMPANY CORPORATION.

    There is a whole list of United States of America corporations. One is even closed. You can do your own search here: https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/GINameSearch.jsp

    Then there is this one THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. Incorporated on 04/14/2008 as a General corporation. Agent name SPIEGEL & UTRERA, P.A.

    Here is the info on the closed one:

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CORPORATION Incorporation date 01/16/1984 closed agent info THE COMPANY CORPORATION. I thought the change Act of 1871 had something to do with incorporation. So, where are those documents. Seems odd to show the incorporation of our govenment in the recent past.

    I am not going to let this go. I think the truth is that they changed the Constitution of our great country in 1871, and there is documentation from back when it was incorporated. If you have a valid source, please post it or point me in the right direction.

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    Quote Posted by Avocadess (here)
    Today: DRAKE reports today that "the Pentagon wants this information to go viral":

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-WANTS.....pdf

    or (same link made into a short url):

    http://alturl.com/wf89i

    Wishing you the best day EVER..!!

    Avocadess
    Would be interested to know what's the reaction when and if this is read by none 'conspiracy nut cases' (unlike ourselves) Avodadess, if and when it gets a good airing on internet your side of the pond. And does the power of intent come into play here?
    Oh my ears and whiskers, how late it's getting!

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    Are we now witnessing the Doppler effect as the predicted events & the predicted days have come & gone & not just by days, but now by months?

    Just what is wrong with this picture people?
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    Quote One more message from DRAKE today:

    Notice to the World was delivered to the Office of Private International Law at the Hague:

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-the-world.pdf
    Please folks, this is just silly. The Organisation is called the Hague Conference on Private International Law and its purpose is to to resolve disputes about divorce, adoption, and so on, on an international level. (If you are American and get married in Australia and then get divorced when one of you is resident in America and the other in England, which law applies? If you get divorced in America and then go and live in Australia, will the Australian government enforce maintenance obligations?)

    Real change is happening, and there is evidence of this all over this forum, at every level. This Drake stuff is storytelling and not change (and nor does it help anyone in any way at all).
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    It IS silly all of it. And what sort of message are we putting out there to the universe. I am beyond eye rolling humor now and verging on the threshold of disgust and offense . This is how the ptb behaves, granted in a less childish way. Eventually one arrives at the realization of NO WONDER the ptb had to manage us! Granted the world is not in a very good place right now but it wouldn't be in any better place with the emotionally arrested caroming about conducting world affairs like this. And that is what we are being promised here. A bunch of emotionally arrested people wanting to play a hand in conducting the world's affairs.

    The message we are sending is that we are collectively ignorant, desiring of stupid immature stories, instead of reflective serious work, let alone cutting edge work.

    We tell the universe we can't manage ourselves and therefore we will continue to be managed.


    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    Quote One more message from DRAKE today:

    Notice to the World was delivered to the Office of Private International Law at the Hague:

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/w...-the-world.pdf
    Please folks, this is just silly. The Organisation is called the Hague Conference on Private International Law and its purpose is to to resolve disputes about divorce, adoption, and so on, on an international level. (If you are American and get married in Australia and then get divorced when one of you is resident in America and the other in England, which law applies? If you get divorced in America and then go and live in Australia, will the Australian government enforce maintenance obligations?)

    Real change is happening, and there is evidence of this all over this forum, at every level. This Drake stuff is storytelling and not change (and nor does it help anyone in any way at all).

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    A more likely reason for the existence of the whole "mass arrests" rumour is to partially neutralise any resistance to a large military presence if it ever arrives. i.e. that this rumour has been created by the very cabal who Drake claims he opposes.

    Recognise the programming ? OBJECTIVE = Get people to ASK for military intervention in civilian affairs and welcome it when it arrives. Get them to welcome an agenda over which they have no control (Avocadess has already done this herself and proposes that everyone else do the same - give away our power instead of manifesting it).

    Although Avocadess seems a nice person, I don't think she should be promoting propaganda when she isn't sure of the real agenda behind it. If Drake says the agenda is to "save us from corruption" then I think that the only thing we can be sure of is that that is what it isn't.

    This whole subject should be left well alone from now on by anyone with a genuine interest in geopolitical healing.

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    Can I just add that I am willing to accept that these documents are real and that they have indeed been sent to and accepted by the Hague Conference of International Law, but what has come of this or will ever come of this, and have the people of the USA supported these documents (a national vote of support would be acceptable).

    Once again, I ask that this thread be moved to the category of channeled and controversial (?) content, as a verification that we accept that all opinions can be heard on this forum, but that we have the discernment to separate that which is real, verifiable and makes a difference, and that which is storytelling that is of value as storytelling and not anything else.

    Your analysis of this silliness seems very wise to me 9eagle9!
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    I think all of this has the effect of demoralizing people, and no matter the facts presented, those who want to believe will do so until it's painfully obvious what the truth is:


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    Your analysis of this silliness seems very wise to me 9eagle9!
    "Ridiculous" sounds like a better word to use than silly to me.

    I find it beyond bizarre that there is any one actually still believing any of this.......re-runs of the Brady Bunch seem to have more truth than this stuff does! sheesh!
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    Very adept programming analysis.

    And yes "nice' doesn't mean overly gifted in identifying programs. Ones own nice programs and their emotional attachment to the 'feel good' story wouldn't allow them to call it BS in the first place.

    People who step up to capably begin to care take world affairs are probably not going to be universally re-known as nice.

    And for my part, its less the ptb I want to give a kick in to the arse to but people who distract themselves with programming without and deign to participate in what is actually occurring beneath our noses.

    Quote Posted by indigopete (here)
    A more likely reason for the existence of the whole "mass arrests" rumour is to partially neutralise any resistance to a large military presence if it ever arrives. i.e. that this rumour has been created by the very cabal who Drake claims he opposes.

    Recognise the programming ? OBJECTIVE = Get people to ASK for military intervention in civilian affairs and welcome it when it arrives. Get them to welcome an agenda over which they have no control (Avocadess has already done this herself and proposes that everyone else do the same - give away our power instead of manifesting it).

    Although Avocadess seems a nice person, I don't think she should be promoting propaganda when she isn't sure of the real agenda behind it. If Drake says the agenda is to "save us from corruption" then I think that the only thing we can be sure of is that that is what it isn't.

    This whole subject should be left well alone from now on by anyone with a genuine interest in geopolitical healing.

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    The problem might be that you're not reading all of the Cobra updates to keep you up to speed, so you are losing hope. Did you know the "event" is like a sandwich? Didn't think so. Here is an excerpt:

    The Cobra is a code name for “Compression Breakthrough.” It is like the surface of this planet is like inside of a sandwich. There is a pressure of Light coming from above, from the Positive ET races and there is another pressure of light coming from below, from The Resistance Movement. And the pressure and the surface of the planet itself is under strong pressure from the Light, from above and below. And when this pressure get’s strong enough, the breakthrough will happen on the surface of the planet. And this is called The Event. And this Event includes the mass arrests but is not limited to that. It is actually the movement of breakthrough for humanity. So we can finally begin to create our own destiny on this planet, without the oppression, without the control of those who were never actually invited here.

    http://galacticconnection.com/cobra-...om-july-3-2012

    So, you probably didn't know you were being pressured inside a sandwich, with the good ET's on top and the resistance movement below, although Cobra does not explain what resistance comes from below, or if this is some kind of underworld. That's just a detail though I'm sure.

    The salient point, is that "the Event" cannot happen until you get your mind right. It's your fault as well as mine for being so negative, that the event hasn't happened yet. I mean, why would anyone question Stardust killing the elite by rendering their nervous systems immobile and paralyzing them? Can't I trust the good ET's to kill and remove the bad guys on earth? I mean after all, they have assured us they have killed and gotten rid of all the bad ET's in cosmic wars and conflicts and now the heavens are free and clear of any of the bad ET stuff.

    So, if the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the largest military force on the planet want to work with an old veteran corporal from 40 years ago who has been involved in the sovereign citizen's movements and patriot movements, has no tactical experience, practiced with The Order of the Dragon and likes Lady Dragon, the self proclaimed famous video game purveyor, who am I to question?

    I mean, with about 1% of the population who is even aware of the whole Drake scenario, who am I to question if the elite are playing those 1% and conditioning them for acceptance of military on our streets when the Constitution STRICTLY goes against ANY military interacting with civilians? These are "good military", right?

    And the Declarations and documents and Notices supposedly sent to the world court having the force and effect of the largest military on the planet, owned by the cabal, going against the cabal? Why would anyone question that? I mean, all of the supposed secret leaders were gathered at Bilderberger a couple weeks ago, and they could have gone in and arrested them all in one fell swoop, but no, why not?

    Probably because I'm so negative and am not doing my part to be a good piece of meat in "The Event" sandwich.
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    I guess we don't have to wait for Bill Ryan to post David Icke's response back to him ..... I just wish Icke would tell us what he REALLY thinks!

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