Barack Obama 2012

[nearing]

Jacko:

"Hey Robert J. Niewiadomski & Levent tonga, don't you just love it when others assume what others are trying to say..?"

Exactly what you are doing to M. Obama.

Cripes, this is getting really silly now. The whole divide and conquer thing works as well on this forum as it does in the world at large - sad!.

Can't we let this go already!!!?

[kcbc2010]

While I agree with goinghome2012, there are going to be a lot of bruised egos until we get to the point where people realize that the world isn't going to end if we have only one flag.

A lot of people are very invested in the symbols of their countries....but times that by 1000% and you've got what goes on here in the US. After 9-11, the flag became a lot more important than it was before - especially when GWB did his speech at the bombed out trade center site. Remember how it used to be a big deal if someone wasn't wearing their "flag" pins to show their support for the troops/country. I go to political meetings/events all the time - everyone, it seems, get decked out in their red,white and blue. It's really quite odd, now that I'm really thinking about it. I've always thought of it as a bit goofy because I tend to be a "I'll wear what I want" kinda gal, but it's just another way that these colors and symbols infiltrate people's minds. Reinforces belief systems, etc......

People are emotionally invested in these symbols - and have been fed years of propaganda telling them that these represent everything that they love and cherish and they are the defenders of the free world and all that is righteous.....(ok, slight exaggeration there at the end, but too far off from the truth)

I'm not saying that it's right, but I also realize that I could live without my flag if I really had to. That isn't going to change what's inside my soul. On the other hand, a lot of people have never had a reason to question what they were doing. Rituals/symbols matter to people. I have to admit, I had a hard time saying the pledge the last time I was at a mtg, but I also was a lot more conscious of what I was doing. I also noticed the people around me didn't seem sincere about what they were doing to honor their country. As a result, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing.

Also,I just can't help but laugh every time I see the "hammer/sickle" flag. Years ago, I was watching Fox and up pops these happy Iraqis waving their communist flags. It took them awhile to figure out that they were showing happy communists, and they finally stopped showing the footage after someone clued them into the video they were broadcasting. Now, when I think of Fox I tend to think of those crazy kids jumping around and waving their communist flags and Fox not having enough sense to know what they were broadcasting. (I also have other associations, but they are typical/boring compared to the happy communists) hehe

I tend to agree with Nickolai in that we really need to stop thinking of the world in "-ism's". Nothing's as clear cut as we want it to be. Labels are helpful, but they also distract from the fact that we are still individuals with unique dreams/goals.

I think that's what scares a lot of people when talking about "One World". It isn't so much that we would all be united as people, but people fear a loss of individuality. (And a lot of Americans pride themselves on being individuals, not part of a collective. That's such a fundamental thing to the America psyche, it's really hard to imagine that part of ourselves not being important). My mind hurts just thinking about it (being sleepy really isn't helping) because "U being U" is such a big deal. And what are U if U is now part of a much larger WE? Do U even matter?

[Unified Serenity]

Wow, a lil observation goes a long way to upset some of you. What ever happened to allowing people to say what they think and share their hearts? Some of us see things differently, and trying to stop the conversation only continues the power struggle. I believe many of you also believe we have to embrace the darkness within to become whole. Well, observing things, saying truth as we see it is all part of that.

Allowing others their say is a sign of maturity spiritually speaking, and agreeing to disagree with respect is as well.

[jackovesk]

Posted by nearing (here)
Jacko:

"Hey Robert J. Niewiadomski & Levent tonga, don't you just love it when others assume what others are trying to say..?"

Exactly what you are doing to M. Obama.

Cripes, this is getting really silly now. The whole divide and conquer thing works as well on this forum as it does in the world at large - sad!.

Can't we let this go already!!!?

You just proved my point...

Whatever happened to Debate & Discuss..?

Absolutely Pathetic...

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Wow !! look at this thread....


"all this for a dam flag"

[Unified Serenity]

This article at infowars was funny in my dark humor sort of way of looking at things. These 10 items should show anyone that no one is this incompetent and what Obama has done to destroy jobs, leave people homeless, destroy families and hope via the economic meltdown has all been a planned assault to weaken America.

So, for all those who love Obama and think he is a light worker, I share this:

Michael Snyder
The American Dream
Friday, July 6, 2012


Have you ever heard the old saying “the beatings will continue until morale improves”? According to Wikipedia, that phrase is often “used sarcastically to indicate the counterproductive nature of such punishment or excessive control over subordinates such as staff in the workplace or children living at home.” Well, apparently Barack Obama believes that the more punishment that he inflicts on the U.S. economy the more we will like him.


What other explanation is there for his insane economic policies? The truth is that Barack Obama is killing jobs in America. His regulations are absolutely crippling our businesses, he has been heavily promoting new job killing “free trade” agreements, Obamacare has the potential to be the most job killing law of all time, and he is running up debt that will crush job creation in this country for ages to come. Obama will likely go down as the most anti-business president in U.S. history. He has presided over the worst “recovery” from a recession in post-World War II history, and under his leadership a whole host of economic statistics have steadily gotten worse. The percentage of working age Americans that have jobshas not bounced back since the end of the last recession, and now the next major economic crisis is rapidly approaching.
Thanks Obama.


The following are 10 ways that Obama is killing jobs in America….


#1 Blocking The Keystone Oil Pipeline
The Keystone pipeline would have created thousands of new jobs. It would have stretched 1,700 miles from Canada to Texas. It would have been a major step toward independence from Middle East oil. It would have brought more than 700,000 barrels of oil a day from the heart of Alberta to refineries in Texas.
It would have revitalized the economies of Montana, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas.
It would have helped reduce energy costs in the United States.
It would have been good for America.
But instead, Barack Obama chose to listen to radical environmental groups and has blocked the plan.
So we all lose.
The lack of a coherent energy policy from this administration has hurt all of us. Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the price of gasoline has risen by about 84 percent.
Thanks Obama.


#2 Obamacare
As I wrote about the other day, Obamacare is going to kill countless numbers of jobs.
Obamacare is going to require all businesses that have at least 50 full-time workers to either provide very expensive health insurance for their employees or pay a $2,000 penalty for each worker after the first 30 employees.
This is going to do a few things….
1) It is going to encourage small businesses to stay under the 50 full-time employee cap.
2) It is going to encourage some businesses to fire workers because they are now too expensive to be profitable.
3) It is going to make businesses operating in the United States even less competitive with foreign businesses than they were before. So even more jobs and even more businesses will leave the United States.
But even though Obama knows all of this, he is completely and totally unrepentant about this law. The following is a statement that Obama made at a campaign event the other day….

“I’ll work with anybody who wants to work with me to continue to improve our health care system and our health care laws, but the law I passed is here to stay”

#3 Crippling Regulations
The Obama administration has been piling tons of new regulations on to the backs of our businesses and this is absolutely killing many of them.
The Heritage Foundation says that “the Obama Administration imposed 75 new major regulations from January 2009 to mid-FY 2011, with annual costs of $38 billion. There were only six major deregulatory actions during that time, with reported savings of just $1.5 billion.”
In addition, right now federal agencies are working on thousands more new regulations for U.S. businesses.
Just for Obamacare, 13,000 pages of new regulations have already been written.
How in the world are U.S. businesses supposed to thrive in such an environment?
Sadly, our whole society has become absolutely obsessed with regulations.
The following is a perfect example of the “regulation mindset” that is pervading our society these days….

A Florida lifeguard has been booted from his lifeguard chair for running to save a man who was floundering in the surf.
Tomas Lopez , 21, was fired by his supervisor for vacating his lifeguarding zone to save a man drowning in an unprotected area of the beach in Hallandale Beach, Fla., on Monday, reports the Sun Sentinel.
Lopez’ employer is not paid to patrol the zone where the man had been in trouble.

Can you imagine a lifeguard being fired for saving a drowning man because it was “not his zone”?
That story does not have anything to do with Obama, but it does show the kind of mentality that control freaks such as Obama are imposing on this nation.


#4 Taxes
Barack Obama keeps trying to hit us with sneaky new taxes. There are more than 20 new taxes in the Obamacare law alone.
Obama does not seem to understand the impact that heavy tax burdens are having on businesses all over America. The following is from a recent Forbes article….

The president’s (and congressional Democrats’) insistence on higher net taxes is a job-killer in several ways: Higher taxes prevent businesses from expanding and deter consumers from spending. Many in the middle class already feel that taxes are extortionate and, fearing even higher taxes, have decreased their spending, thereby reducing demand for goods and services.

#5 “Free Trade” Agreements
Barack Obama has been prancing all over the nation declaring that “free trade” will mean more jobs for American workers.
By now, hopefully you all know what a lie that is. Every single year, the U.S. buys hundreds of billions of dollars more stuff from the rest of the world than they buy from us. Those dollars could be going to support U.S. jobs and U.S. businesses instead.
Because we have such radically unbalanced trade, our formerly great manufacturing cities are turning into festering sores. Cities that were once teeming with economic activity have degenerated into hellholes.
During 2010 alone, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities permanently shut down in the United States every single day.


Overall, the United States has lost more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities since 2001.
So why doesn’t Obama do something about this?
Instead of reversing this trend, he says that he wants even more trade with China.
Well, right now the U.S. spends about 4 dollars on goods and services from China for every one dollar that China spends on goods and services from the United States.
China hits our goods with ridiculous tariffs and we let them get away with it. According to the New York Times, a Jeep Grand Cherokee that costs $27,490 in the United States costs about $85,000 in China thanks to all the tariffs.
And Obama wants more of this?


According to the Economic Policy Institute, America is losing half a million jobs to China every single year.
Do we really want to keep losing those jobs?
According to Professor Alan Blinder of Princeton University, 40 million more U.S. jobs could be sent offshore over the next two decades if current trends continue.
So what is the answer that Obama proposes?
He wants more!


The Obama administration has already made new “free trade” deals with Panama, South Korea and Colombia. In addition, the Obama administration is making the Trans-Pacific Partnership (“the NAFTA of the Pacific“) a very high priority.
In addition to killing millions of our jobs, that new treaty would reportedly ban all “Buy American laws“.
What in the world is Obama doing?


#6 Killing The Coal Industry On Purpose
New carbon emission rules from the Environmental Protection Agency seem to target coal-powered plants in particular. I guess this fulfills Barack Obama’s promise to kill off the coal industry. The following is from the Washington Post….

Industry officials and environmentalists said in interviews that the rule, which comes on the heels of tough new requirements that the Obama administration imposed on mercury emissions and cross-state pollution from utilities within the past year, dooms any proposal to build a coal-fired plant that does not have costly carbon controls.
“This standard effectively bans new coal plants,” said Joseph Stanko, who heads government relations at the law firm Hunton and Williams and represents several utility companies. “So I don’t see how that is an ‘all of the above’ energy policy.”

#7 Wasting Money
Instead of spending our money in ways that would be productive for our economy, the Obama administration continues to spend money in some of the most wasteful ways imaginable. The following are just a few examples from one of my previous articles….
-In 2011, the National Institutes of Health spent $592,527 on a study that sought to figure out once and for all why chimpanzees throw poop.


-The National Institutes of Health has spent more than 5 million dollars on a website called Sexpulse that is targeted at “men who use the Internet to seek sex with men”. According to Fox News, the website “includes pornographic images of homosexual sex as well as naked and scantily clad men” and features “a Space Invaders-style interactive game that uses a penis-shaped blaster to shoot down gay epithets.”


-If you can believe it, the federal government has actually spent $750,000 on a new soccer field for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.
You can find many more examples of this phenomenon here and here.


#8 Barack Obama Encourages Government Dependence
At the same time that Barack Obama is absolutely crippling small businesses, he is also encouraging more Americans to kick back and become financially dependent on the federal government. But it is not good to have tens of millions of Americans sitting around and doing nothing productive for the economy.
Since Barack Obama entered the White House, the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 million to 46 million.
But for Obama that is not enough.


Amazingly, the Obama administration has been spending millions of dollars on ads that encourage even more people to go on food stamps….

The U.S. Department of Agriculture has been running radio ads for the past four months encouraging those eligible to enroll. The campaign is targeted at the elderly, working poor, the unemployed and Hispanics.
The department is spending between $2.5 million and $3 million on paid spots, and free public service announcements are also airing. The campaign can be heard in California, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, and the New York metro area.

Overall, the amount of money that the federal government gives directly to the American people has increased by 32 percentsince Barack Obama entered the White House.
Barack Obama may enjoy playing Santa Claus with our money, but this is getting way out of hand.


#9 Barack Obama Has Fully Supported Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke And Actually Nominated Him For A Second Term
More Americans than ever are coming to realize that the Federal Reserve is at the very heart of our economic problems.
And who has been running the Federal Reserve during these troubled times?
Ben Bernanke.


Sadly, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has a track record of failure that is absolutely legendary. If you have forgotten how badly he has performed over the years, just check out this article, this article and this article.
But instead of dumping him when his first term ended, Barack Obama decided to nominate Ben Bernanke for another term.
Why does it seem like every single decision that Barack Obama makes is bad for the economy?


#10 The Soaring National Debt Is Killing Millions Upon Millions Of Future Jobs
The debt that Barack Obama is piling up right now will haunt the U.S. economy for ages to come.


When Barack Obama first entered the White House, the U.S. national debt was sitting at 10.6 trillion dollars. Now it is right on the verge of crossing the 16 trillion dollar mark.
Amazingly, Obama has added more to the national debt than the first 41 presidents combined.


At this point, the United States has more government debt per capita than Greece, Portugal, Italy, Ireland or Spain does.
But Barack Obama shows no sign of slowing down. In fact, the federal government continues to steal approximately 150 million dollars from our children and our grandchildren every single hour.
In the end, this is going to absolutely destroy our financial system and our economy will collapse.

[sigma6]

I can't believe that people in this forum still think in terms of liberals vs conservatives, I thought we were all beyond that... it's all 100% pure 'dog and pony' show, a justification for taking your money no more real then soap opera stars that 'emotionally involve' you to justify their paychecks, it's exactly the same thing... if you believe the 'storyline' and are making comments on it, you just got sucked in... if Brietbart had dirt on Obama, what is so hard to believe about that? show the tapes and let the people judge ... they are ALL DIRTY

[Sierra]

Posted by LarryC (here)
Capitalism and communism are two sides to the same coin. They were funded by the same bankers. They both worship the model of materialism and industrialism that overtook the world in the 19th Century. I agree that conservative Americans are brainwashed to react against the very word "communism," and have been since the 50s. However, I'm not ready to say that people like Mao and Stalin were heroes. No doubt in communist countries there is a similar anti-capitalist form of brainwashing going on -at least what's left of communism. Now it seems to be militant Islam that's playing the primary anti-American role in the ongoing dialectic that tries to force us to take sides.

If you dig a little, you'll find that many forces within the Western world helped to prop up radical Islam, just as they did Communism. Any kind of ideology is brainwashing, including the belief that a particular ideology is the root of all evil in the world. Now some clever person could say I'm contradicting myself, that this is an ideology in itself. Perhaps, but we can still try to come up with belief systems that are relatively free of indoctrination, or what Robert Anton Wilson called reality tunnels.

Yup. We installed the leaders of Iraq, Libya, Iran (the Shah, dreadful torturer), South Vietnam, I think we messed with Indonesia in the 60s or 70s, that drug runner leader of Nicaragua (gosh we are hard on our puppets!) was one of ours, and I am sure you could come up with a few more. It is all one world government, and both U.S. political parties are controlled by the same people, who rotate in and out of office. There is no difference, despite the polarized branding.

My point was I don't believe what the U.S. media says about any country now. It is all brainwashing, to produce internal and external "enemies" to focus upon, rather than the welfare of humanity.

[crested-duck]

That articles should make everyone realise these are all direct british oligarchical principles being implemented. And if you seriously ask yourself WHY...and do some critical thinking about it, you will come to the truth. The truth is usa is a british owned colony just like all the rest worldwide subjects of the crown. Does it make sense to you now why Obama bows to and kisses the ring of the queen????Or are you just another fool that thinks you are free, when you actually are not, nor have you ever been. And to top it off if you research "papal -bulls" you will discover the RCC claims ownership of all souls on earth, and that they gave the british monarchy their"authority " to rule the earth. Try to prove me wrong and you just might learn a thing or two about a thing or two.---Rob

[TelosianEmbrace]

Now, a circular flag, that's what I'd like to see. Or maybe a three dimensional circular flag that changes colour if you look at it from a different angle. A glow in the dark flag.

Better still, no more flags to divide us. No more corporate logos. No more secret signs and symbols. Nothing but sacred geometry, divine harmony and a blissful and content Mother Earth to shower us with Her abundance.

But no, we have to talk around in circles about something that is really quite silly and superfluous.

[Mulder]

"Because we have such radically unbalanced trade, our formerly great manufacturing cities are turning into festering sores. Cities that were once teeming with economic activity have degenerated into hellholes. During 2010 alone, an average of 23 manufacturing facilities permanently shut down in the United States every single day."

Wow, this is scarey, but where are the new jobs in the USA - working for the TSA, in Prisons and soon for the IRS - the 14,000 new tax collectors - what next is the big question? Maybe there'll only be 2 jobs in your town: either a prison-guard or a prisoner!

[Unified Serenity]

Yes, the great brotherhood of equality. Someone once wrote a book about that called "Animal Farm". Someone else really tried it hard and they were called the Soviet Union. Yes, where all were equal, no religion allowed, no differences, no haves and have nots. Well, except for some were more equal than others, and some got sent to the gulag for asking a question or thinking critically, or was it just thinking? Some killed 70 million of their fellow equals. Yes, pretending we are all one and that by removing stupid things like National identity, money, religion will bring us piece is a pipe dream in our present condition. Man's heart is exceedingly wicked, reprobate, greedy, selfish, and violent. We might make it one day by the grace of God/dess, but today, well let's just say, we aren't the sharpest tools in the shed yet.

Oh, and as an afterthought, Michelle Obama has not shown a deeply spiritual side. Her comment which I do believe was about the flag was not the discussion we are having. She has disdain for her country. Why, it was only 3 years ago that she said "For the first time I am proud of my country". So, she has loathed this country, it's people, well the white people and the fat people. She said she hates fat people from what I recall. So, I think the issue for me, is when I look for a President and a First lady, I want to know they love my country and it's heritage, and do not exhibit disdain and loathing and feel they need to apologize around the world for all of our failings, and kneel bow and kiss the a$$ of every mulah, queen, and sheik they meet.

[VirgoSun79]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by GCS1103 (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Lifebringer (here)

I will continue to pray to God for you to begin to understand that this President has done nothing against the country or people, but is trying his best, to make it safe and right for when we pass the torch of freedom in their future.

Me too.....

I couldn't agree more

I can't breathe LOL!!

[Unified Serenity]

I think this applies regarding the questioning of who the Obama's are for and my comment regarding what I look for in a President and First Lady:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mo78qm8k2LY

[ghostrider]

remember her statement when they were first elected, ( For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country.) she is only proud when she and hubby are in charge. they are doing so much damage to america , the masses don't get it. No matter what statement she made in the video , they are arrogant, ego driven , maniacs that think if the world will just do what they say , we won't have any problems. Change the ocuppants of the white house , America is still the same, they don't run anything, they just say what they are told , JFk was a reminder to future presidents do what you are told or we will take you for a ride with the top down. Then her next kick was to tell you what to feed your children, like adults don't know what to feed their own kids, that kind of $#^! makes me furious ! I wonder how we lived this long without osama I mean obama and know it all to tell us what to do.

[ghostrider]

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)

Posted by goinghome2012 (here)
unified serenity

stop spreading separation and promote unity consciousness, like your forum name

all we need is one flag, the rainbow flag of unconditional love, unity and peace

let's take all the other flags and burn them, transcend them, and embrace the cosmic energies of oneness, unification, equality, cooperation, unconditional love, joy, peace, universal mind

spread the consciousness of unity and love, bye bye polarity, bye bye 3 dimension hello 4th dimension of positive unity thought + love = manifestation = heaven on Earth

Oh, we will have unity, one flag, one king, one faith, and a beautiful world, but it won't be by man's doing. I know Divine unity and how we are all part of the creator, but we are also individuals here in kindergarten learning a few truths. Some of us learn them faster than others.

you tgo girl , you been on a roll lately !

[Unified Serenity]

Obama cannot be trusted. He words mean nothing compared to his actions. He is going to try to be re-elected, and regardless of believing in honest elections or not, people's minds and hearts will be acting, and how many will vote for Obama knowing his factual history. How many will vote for Romney knowing his history and flip flopping. My point is, facts speak for themselves, and people need to honestly assess our leaders from what they say vs. what they do or what actually happens:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=O6qTdXHlrbY

[risveglio]

I think you have to be soulless (or naive) to vote for Obama or Romney.

[ghostrider]

I vote for no one. who would they put in there if no one votes ? ha ha

[pilotsimone]

Posted by risveglio (here)
I think you have to be soulless (or naive) to vote for Obama or Romney.

I think 'soulless' is getting a little dramatic, don't you? lol.