From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis

[SEAM]

(MATILDA O'DONNELL MACELROY PERSONAL NOTE)
I will never forget this conversation. Her tone was very matter-of-fact and
emotionless. However, for the first time, I sensed the presence of a warm and real
"personality" in Airl. Her reference to "immortal spiritual beings" struck me like a
flash of light in a dark room. I had never before considered that a human being
could be an immortal being.

"Personally, it is my conviction that all sentient
beings are immortal spiritual beings. This includes
human beings. For the sake of accuracy and simplicity I
will use a made-up word: "IS-BE". Because the primary
nature of an immortal being is that they live in a
timeless state of "is", and the only reason for their
existence is that they decide to "be".
No matter how lowly their station in a society, every
IS-BE deserves the respect and treatment that I myself
would like to receive from others. Each person on Earth
continues to be an IS-BE whether they are aware of the
fact or not."

[frozen alchemy]

Thanks, Seam. I just found that amazing Matilda O'Donnell material myself a few weeks ago. Wonderful read and rings true to me.

Bill Ryan maintains that the information is a straight-away steal from Scientology, which I know nothing about. Is it possible in any way that Scientology is based on this information, rather than the reverse, if in only a small part?

As to if/why the governments would be building cavernous bunkers all over the planet, I read somewhere that the incoming galactic plane material will cause sustained winds for years up to 400 MPH, and of course there's the solar flare threat although they tend to be sudden and limited in time-scope, if not limited in effect. It seems that underground wouldn't be a particularly safe place to be in the event of massive flooding, but perhaps just the ability to hide from the surface Mad Max scenario if all hell breaks loose has some uses. Putting everything together, it surely seems like they know WHAT'S coming, they know WHEN, and at this point, they're fully prepared and waiting for it. Sure would explain the consummate lack of worry about the debt servicing, or arresting and prosecuting the known criminal element that's been responsible for the economic mess we're in.

[Magnus]

Did anyone notice that Victor spoke french?

@ 17:46 He say something that i interpret as:
"Après moi le déluge, du déluge Saunière"

Wich roughly translates into:

"After me, the deluge, the deluge of Saunière"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hpjJZ-h8N7E

If i'm correct in my interpretation, this leads to another question, is he referring to Bérenger Saunière of Rennes-le-Château?

Then what he says @ 17:34
"Let's just say that i wouldn't plan a twentieth anniversary of this documentary."
(1997 + 20 = 2017) Victors initial interview was recorded 1997.
(2008 + 20 = 2028) This interview was recorded in 2008.

What year is he actually hinting at, 2017 or 2028?
In my opinion, this is not entirely clear if we only consider an unreferenced "twentieth anniversary".
On the other hand, if we take Victors health declaration into consideration, then it's likely to be 2017, as Bill said here:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
2 ---
The second interview with 'Victor' — here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EEFJ_C-wdlw (part 1)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aMVdaQox308 (part 2)

'Victor' described, with a great deal of authentic bitterness, how the elite were planning to leave the planet -- sometime before a catastrophic event that they expected to occur before 2017.

If we follow this line of thought, two of Victors claims stands in conjunction with each other:
@ 14:00
"The end times are upon us. The end of the world. We have been tested, and found wanting, the aliens came, they presented themselves to humanity, they were taken and held, and questioned, and alone to die, and now the reckoning is at hand."

How does "the deluge of Saunière" connect with "the reckoning is at hand"?
Will Victors "du déluge Saunière" be the result of an E.T. retaliation?
How could Saunière possibly be connected to this?

@ 1:08 Carol Rosin / Wernher von Braun - "The last card, the last card, the last card will be the extra terrestrial threat"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3mu4dPHIDTg

To complicate things further...

In the "Charles" interview @ 1:10:29 Charles said this:
"Ah, so 2012. Something’s going to hit us out of the space... Something’s going to, some natural massive phenomenon is going to happen."
(Note: His claim refers to a point in time even though he generally repels every time bound event.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lQZTghux9DE

[Hervé]

Posted by SEAM (here)
(MATILDA O'DONNELL MACELROY PERSONAL NOTE)
I will never forget this conversation. Her tone was very matter-of-fact and
emotionless...

[...]

Cough-cough...

I guess you never ran into Bill's post and thread about "Alien Interview"...

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Hi, Folks:

THis morning I received another message from someone asking for my opinion about Lawrence Spencer's 'ALIEN INTERVIEW'.

Here is my standard reply to everyone who writes (and a lot of people have). This needs to be plainly stated on the internet, as this one seems not to be going away. I ask all members to cross-post this freely to other forums. The hoax needs to be cleared up... there's too much nonsense in ufology already.

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‘ALIEN INTERVIEW’ by Lawrence Spencer



Unfortunately, this book is a hoax. This is definitive.

Lawrence Spencer is careful (presumably for legal reasons) to offer the written disclaimer that 'Alien Interview'. should be regarded as a work of fiction, but it does the UFO community (and the Scientology community - see below) no favors when Spencer maintained on subsequent radio talk shows, some with sizable audiences, that the purported "interview" really happened. It did not.

Conveniently, the claimed source, "Matilda MacElroy" is "deceased" - and Spencer "destroyed all the original documentation". So we'll just have to take his word for it... and his word, publicly stated, is that he is portraying real events. Sadly, his word is not very honorable, and he is lying. I don't often deploy that unpleasant word, but here its use is accurate and fair.

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Almost as an afternote: there are many other problems with the book - many of which are already cited by other reviewers. Use of the terms "carbon dating", "computer", "database", "alien" (the Roswell survivor was called an EBE, or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity), MacElroy being a "Senior Master Sergeant" - and more - are all anachronisms: the words or terms did not exist in 1947, and show clearly that this is recent writing. The date stamp is also wrong: the author uses the English notation of 9.7.1947 for 9 July 1947... a little slip, written by Spencer, who although American is very familiar with England.

Lastly, consider what the alien's name ('AIRL') is an anagram of.
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[...]

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Read this book as the metaphysically fascinating work of fiction that it is. Spencer's post-publication behavior, however, elevates this "fiction" to the level of a dishonorable hoax, for which he should be ashamed. He could have handled this much, much better.

I'm a UFO researcher myself. If you want the truth, there are many other places to find it. And if Spencer wants to contact me, he can through Project Avalon or Project Camelot (bill@projectavalon.net).

I'd be interested to know privately what possessed him to go so far and to paint himself into such a corner, from which escape is now almost impossible without him continuing to deceive his readers.

Bill Ryan
PROJECT AVALON
PROJECT CAMELOT

[Flash]

Posted by Magnus (here)
Did anyone notice that Victor spoke french?

@ 17:46 He say something that i interpret as:
"Après moi le déluge, du déluge Saunière"

Wich roughly translates into:

"After me, the deluge, the deluge of Saunière"

you are wrong in your understanding of Victor's words, first video, he said in French "Après moi le déluge, le déluge solaire".
After me the deluge, the deluge of the sun (the sun's deluge). This is quite clear in French, and it is definitely not Saunière. Which in my idea, makes it more interesting within this thread presuppositions.

[Magnus]

Posted by Flash (here)

Posted by Magnus (here)
Did anyone notice that Victor spoke french?

@ 17:46 He say something that i interpret as:
"Après moi le déluge, du déluge Saunière"

Wich roughly translates into:

"After me, the deluge, the deluge of Saunière"

you are wrong in your understanding of Victor's words, first video, he said in French "Après moi le déluge, le déluge solaire".
After me the deluge, the deluge of the sun (the sun's deluge). This is quite clear in French, and it is definitely not Saunière. Which in my idea, makes it more interesting within this thread presuppositions.

Thanks for correcting me!

It was a tough challenge for me to distinguish Victors words since both the audio and my own hearing could be a lot better.

This leaves us with "Après moi le déluge, le déluge solaire" in conjunction with "the reckoning is at hand".

Were Victor insinuating that we are to expect an E.T. retaliation in the form of a deluge of the sun?

Maybe the E.T.'s could utilize the sun as their weapon but i find that slightly far fetched as they probably could manage such a thing way more effortless. And that is, if there exist an E.T. threat at all.

Maybe Victor expected both a deluge of the sun and an E.T retaliation but wasn't sure of wich one would come about first.

There are just too many contradictive claims from too many whistleblowers for one to be able to make out who's more credible than the other. Two different sources, presenting two different claims, pointing at opposit directions, is more often than not, equally convincing.

But...

If Victors claim about "the deluge of the sun" are true, it could be that Victor and Charles shared the same knowledge:

In the "Charles" interview @ 1:10:29 Charles said this:
"Ah, so 2012. Something’s going to hit us out of the space... Something’s going to, some natural massive phenomenon is going to happen."
(Note: His claim refers to a point in time even though he generally repels every form of time bound event.)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=L1DI2mwfdls

Charles also stated:
@ 1:10:55 "There will be some difficulties because of solar activity."
@ 1:11:00 "No one can predict what the sun is about to do."

If no one can predict what the sun is about to do, why would Victor be able to predict a deluge of the sun?

[taurad]

FIRST i want to thank everyone that go to lengths trying to figure out the BIG PICTURE...

these great humans, work tirelessly to collect data, sort'em out, analyze and brainstorm the process...

then put them together, a super difficult process on its own...

and then streamline it to us, break it down for us

again, a big THANK YOU!



Second, i am personally having trouble with a couple of things:

1- i'm struggling with Dutch's poor story-telling abilities, despite being fore-warned about that and taking into account how favorable that would be for his recruiters; i still have trouble digesting this individual had higher clearance than US president...

2- i didn't get why he never focuses on what really happens to the planet, the planetary event...let's hypothetically accept as valid the Moon Jump Elite scenario...soooo???? if i was in his
shoes, unless i had a seat on that craft, i wouldn't care much for it, rather would have investigated what happens to us? what precisely an event are we talking about? when? for how long?

etc...

3- @ the end he throws the GOD and the biblical approach...there he got me lost again...what GOD? which version??? why not start with this first:

"People, there's a GOD, i got the evidence, the Bible is the word of GOD, this war is spiritual...and then yada yada yada"

on the second interview, if i remember correctly he adds that "not even THEIR MOON refuge will help THEM achieve anything, THEY can't escape the wrath of GOD"!!!

quite BOLD a statement, but there's no way you successfully clarify a large-scale complicated whistle-blowing tale that easily...


4- Victor's video clips don't need to have two fully rotating camera's, for a project like this...very hollywoodish, almost bollywoodish

the cameras are panning from the driver's seat, backs out to driver's mirror, fast rotating 180 * degrees to the passenger's mirror, and then to Victor's profile!!!!?????

this is only one i'm using as an i.e.; there was much more...do i need to go any further???


I miss the Bill Ryan & Kerry Cassidy locked-in-a-room interviews...


final words, i did pay attention to the info, but i did not get a clear picture...i got more confused and more frustrated...

i hope it was just me, not the source

and if day comes, when catastrophe strikes, i'm gonna live every last second with a big smile in my face

cheers everyone

[bodhii71]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wrNfpsPpJ4Q

At one point this cosmonaut states that due to waves from our galactic center our sun will become a red giant.

[Jeffrey]

Thinking about the sun. Sunspots result from magnetic fluxuations and increase leading up to magnetic pole reversals (which happens about every 11 years). Sunspots are dark. What if there was a longer, unknown solar cycle that results in a big flip with immense increases in the suns magnetic flux. Would this lead to a dramatic increase in size and frequency of sunspots? Effectively dimming the sun enough to where it looks dark by comparison with it's previous state? Could the sun then have sunspots over ~50-80% of it's surface area?

Could the periodicity of this phenomenon correlate with the positions of other stars/planets?

We hear all of this prophesy about the sun going dark (and the moon turning red, which could close to it's color if it were reflecting the light of a sun undergoing that process idk) for a number of days.

Also, imagine all the solar flares that could happen because of that. Deluge of the sun?

Or something like that, just brain-storming.

[Flash]

Posted by bodhii71 (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wrNfpsPpJ4Q

At one point this cosmonaut states that due to waves from our galactic center our sun will become a red giant.

wow that video is quite interesting, to be listened to really

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Magnus (here)
If no one can predict what the sun is about to do, why would Victor be able to predict a deluge of the sun?

This is a really important question. I have a credible source -- an accomplished physicist with a TS clearance, whose name many here would instantly recognize, who has told me clearly, in writing, that an 1859-type solar event is being anticipated for December/January coming. He said that it is not known whether (or to what extent) this event will compromise the grid.

I've several times asked him how he knows.... and he never answered that question. But has consistently conducted himself as if he knows, with some margin for error and uncertainty -- exactly as if this was the result of classified scientific investigation and analysis that is not being made public.

[Houman]

A magnetogram recorded at the Greenwich Observatory in London during the Carrington Event of 1859.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Houman -- thanks for jumping into this thread.

May I ask: in your personal opinion, is it possible that there are ways and means in classified science to predict, with some confidence, extreme peaks of solar activity a year or more in advance?

[frozen alchemy]

Yes, I for one researched the Matilda Mcelroy material immediately here after finding it on line somewhere else.

I understand that Bill has his reasons for discounting it including a familiarity with the Scientology material that I don't have, but I decided I liked her point of view on things so much, and it rang so true for me, that I tend to very strongly believe it anyways. The idea that the way to 'escape' the prison we find ourselves in, is to remember our past lives, is very compelling to me. I had memories as a very young child of a former life (actually mostly the death part) and my father made a prolonged visit with me after he died, along with several other very strong psychic experiences. It only very recently, perhaps because of the Matilda material, occurred to me that if we live more than one life, well, the obvious inference to be had from that is that we're eternal. Why would you reincarnate only once? That's as silly as just one go at it...

For all that it might be a hoax, the voice of Matilda and the alien were some of the most truly enlightened, kind, and intelligent persons I've ever heard on this subject. Sometimes fiction can be the truth.

[eileenrose]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Magnus (here)
If no one can predict what the sun is about to do, why would Victor be able to predict a deluge of the sun?

This is a really important question. I have a credible source -- an accomplished physicist with a TS clearance, whose name many here would instantly recognize, who has told me clearly, in writing, that an 1859-type solar event is being anticipated for December/January coming. He said that it is not known whether (or to what extent) this event will compromise the grid.

I've several times asked him how he knows.... and he never answered that question. But has consistently conducted himself as if he knows, with some margin for error and uncertainty -- exactly as if this was the result of classified scientific investigation and analysis that is not being made public.

He would know the exact time/event if it was orchestrated (ie. the sun was affected on purpose while the earth was in a position to be affected by a CME) by the elites/someone/secret military complex.

I do recall reading some threads here that talked about (rather vaguely...so can't recall which threads) that by using scalar weapons here we were damaging our own sun (and the cumulative effect would be the sun damaging here.....yin and yang, as it were). Something about how Tesla/scalar weapons work....ie. they affect a part of space/time that links both objects sun/earth.

did I get that all wrong? anyone?

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Hi, Houman -- thanks for jumping into this thread.

May I ask: in your personal opinion, is it possible that there are ways and means in classified science to predict, with some confidence, extreme peaks of solar activity a year or more in advance?

If I may interject: wouldn't "they" have had to know much further in the past than one year, if the subterranean cities are real (and their escape from the impending solar storm)?

Would this point to some (at least perceived) credibility in the (supposed) "Looking Glass" or other future-viewing technology/technique? In other words, they could be completely wrong, but are operating under the assumption that whatever they picked-up in the future-casting was correct.

Dennis

[Magnus]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Magnus (here)
If no one can predict what the sun is about to do, why would Victor be able to predict a deluge of the sun?

This is a really important question. I have a credible source -- an accomplished physicist with a TS clearance, whose name many here would instantly recognize, who has told me clearly, in writing, that an 1859-type solar event is being anticipated for December/January coming. He said that it is not known whether (or to what extent) this event will compromise the grid.

I've several times asked him how he knows.... and he never answered that question. But has consistently conducted himself as if he knows, with some margin for error and uncertainty -- exactly as if this was the result of classified scientific investigation and analysis that is not being made public.

Hello Bill, thank you for your attention!

My personal understanding...
We are in no doubt up against a great deal of deliberate disinformation which even the more experienced enthusiasts and researchers have a tough time to discern. It's always interesting to compare different sources stating nearly the same thing, but then again fabricated disinformation campaigns may also be designed to reach us from various directions, just to gain credibility. The big problem with whistleblowers is that they rarely if ever offer any irrefutable evidence to back up their story, while they on the other hand, eagerly spread their "truth".

We also have Nicolas Haywood, a 33° Freemason and ambassador for the Priory of Sion, wich in an 2008 interview with Bruce Burgess, stated that an 'event' will take place.

@ 2:33 "A deluge, perhaps" - A deluge of the sun?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V_TPwiQFr2A

And then we have "Hidden Hand" from ATS who also in 2008 came forward and spoke of "The great harvest". Note that Haywood and HH came forward almost simultaneously, possibly for a reason of their religion and rituals.

HH:
"Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as 'Nibiru'."

I might be wrong but i get the same feeling about Haywood and Hidden Hand, it wouldn't surprise me if they are the one and same.

HH also shared a picture which he said depicted what would happen.


DialogueWithHiddenHand-WesPenre.pdf

Whatever happens, doom or not, i'm confident that there is no reason to fear.

[Hervé]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
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If I may interject: wouldn't "they" have had to know much further in the past than one year, if the subterranean cities are real (and their escape from the impending solar storm)?

Would this point to some (at least perceived) credibility in the (supposed) "Looking Glass" or other future-viewing technology/technique? In other words, they could be completely wrong, but are operating under the assumption that whatever they picked-up in the future-casting was correct.

Dennis

This brings me back to post #150 where I finally got some concept on "Time Lines" and the high probability of an event re-occurring in the future if the original is left untouched/unheal from the principles uncovered by Steve Richards on the basis that "everything is alive" and therefore susceptible to trauma and hence having to "re-enact" that trauma in the future when left unaddressed.

Just like the Fibonacci sequence above, the spirit externalizes by bringing through action that has never been dealt with from the past hologram of time and as we now internalize and react in the present to that action, that integration of the past action, plus the present reaction, sets up the cycles of similarity from that moment on, into the future hologram of time.

We now have the repeat offenders, and others, stuck in that repeat cycle of similarity from the past, not knowing why, as that created dimension of reality is alive and seeks survival, as its creation is all that it knows, until it starts to grow and learn, just as a baby grows and learns by their reactors, it is now becoming intelligent, as it gains knowledge and understanding and keeps setting you up to feed itself, which becomes the same frequency that created it, in the first place, eventually this created force takes on form and becomes conscious of its own consciousness and becomes the birth of a new internal dimension of reality known as an internal entity.

Now this internally created entity, keeps the cycles going and eventually as you keep feeding it, by the repeat cycles of time, it can start to take over and at times come forward into the creation of what is known as multiple personalities.

Man must in the present go back to the past and change that created dimension of reality at its juncture, in the past, once time enfolds upon itself, it creates 360 degrees representing completion and time will then loop itself and put you outside that dimension of time, only then will this stop the cycles of similarity from continuing into the future.

Not only within the internal created realities of the mind does time loop itself, but we are discovering time loops in the physical world of reality taking place. The ancestors of the past could step out of time and come back in through another dimension of time.

I have found that there are wormholes still active, especially to dimensions of the past genocide, our team have activated those wormholes brought the spirits through a surrogate on the table enfolded space time upon their past trauma, changed the past from ever occurring in the future cycles of time and released the spirits that were stuck earth bound in that trauma. Preventing that from ever occurring in the future cycles of time.

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Time Loops

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I realize that every thing is in its own dimension of time, from the moment of its creation as a thought, that dimension can be for a second, an hour, a year, one hundred years, one thousand years or more, It is only a dimension and is relative to its creation, It will set up cycles of similarity creating the repeat patterns in life until that created dimension has enfolded upon itself and only then do we have 360 Degrees representing completion.

When a client and their spirit integrates and acknowledges the cause of any created reality time instantly loops itself and that dimension no longer has an effect on that client from that moment on. I have found that all created realities are linked to their own dimension of time and once that created reality is acknowledged, time loops itself and that dimension is complete. Just as we change a dimension of time of a creation in the mind of a being, this can then also transmute into the external physical world of reality, for it is only another dimension.

We are now aware of accessing wormholes to dimensions of the genocide of the past, and changing in the present the past which in turn changes the cause and all trauma from ever re-occurring within the cycles of the future.

We have discovered that all around us, there are dimensions and all created dimensions have a life form linked to its creation, once that dimensions is created and you enter that dimension you are subject to the laws of that dimension, we are now looking at Black spots on the road as a dimension, this explains why people die in the same spot as they enter that dimension, which is a reality.

Holographic kinetics has the ability to access the life form known as the nucleus or spirit of any created dimension, once accessed that dimension can be changed for the future.

To understand how it works, you have to look at the cycles of time, the past and the present equal the future, the past cycle is déjà vu, we now live in the present cycle and just like fibonacci mathematics the past and the present equal the future cycles of time.

The clairvoyant access the past cycle of time and can see on the time track what occurred in the past/future, if you do nothing to change that cycle then it will repeat itself in the present and then set up the cycles of similarity of the future, this then gives you the repeat offenders in the prison system as they become stuck in time of the cycle of similarity, which can be easily cleared.

(unchanged) Past + Present = Future repeats of that past

[frozen alchemy]

It occurred to me when I was listening to the Tolec material, and he was saying that there were dozens of planet-sized mother ships here awaiting the mass ascension and 'to help out in any way they could', and that the 'whole galaxy was watching' and that never in history has an entire planet ascended at once, that there's another way of looking at ascension. The End of our Present Existence.

His time frame was the whole planet going up to 4th dimension in January 2013 and everyone finishing the process to 4-5th dimension by January 2014. I've forgotten the exact dates but I think he gave an exact day.

Oddly, he's been extremely quiet now for a week or two. For a while there, he was on a radio talk show every few days.

[jaybee]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Magnus (here)
If no one can predict what the sun is about to do, why would Victor be able to predict a deluge of the sun?

This is a really important question. I have a credible source -- an accomplished physicist with a TS clearance, whose name many here would instantly recognize, who has told me clearly, in writing, that an 1859-type solar event is being anticipated for December/January coming. He said that it is not known whether (or to what extent) this event will compromise the grid.

I've several times asked him how he knows.... and he never answered that question. But has consistently conducted himself as if he knows, with some margin for error and uncertainty -- exactly as if this was the result of classified scientific investigation and analysis that is not being made public.

and we had this from NASA last year....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XQ8K3ofGWrQ

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