Frequencies of colours and shapes.

[Dennis Leahy]

Thanks, Alie. An excerpt from that book sure made me think of (math genius?/free energy wizard?) Marco Rodin:

Posted by from 'Musical Cult Control', by Leonard Horowitz
A=444 (C(5)=528Hz) Versus A=432

It is readily apparent from a simple mathematical analysis that A=444Hz and A=432 Hz are harmonically related and both, reportedly, therapeutic. Prove the harmony yourself by simply subtracting 432 from 444. It yields 12; where 1+2=3 in Pythagorean math. Now take 528 and subtract 444 and you also get 12, or 3. Next, take 528 and subtract 432 to get 96; where 9+6=15; and 1+5=6. This result is identical to 5+2+8=15 or 6.

Notice this set of numbers--3s, 6s, 9s and 8s--are always exclusively represented by these special natural pure tones, their scales, and their harmonics. This is precisely what Leonardo da Vinci’s mentors emphasized about cosmic scales and mathematics. (21, 22)

Nikola Tesla, too, taught his students about this unique set of numbers, and always applied this math in his research and inventions, including free energy machines,...

Dennis

[meeradas]

Every (sound) frequency can be 'translated' into visible light (=colours) by octaviding it (long enough).
Wouldn't i be such a code illiterate, i'd have coded an "app" or two in the last millenium, already.
There are so many fields in which this could be of use... back then, i just found it cool to think about performing your music onstage - and having the exact colour equivalent lighting processed in 'realtime', along with the music...
second thought was "healing"... i wish i'd meet someone who can code!

[Very] Interesting in this regard: http://www.planetware.de/octave/cosmic-octave.html

[Poly Hedra]

meeradas
"Every (sound) frequency can be 'translated' into visible light (=colours) by octaviding it (long enough)."

Yes I would love to be able to code an app.
Playdo of Ataraxas's link about the boy who had to see colour through sound is fascinating. I guess this might be close to technology that could see colour and translate it as sound.
Here it is again: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...714#post429714
I am someone who's life is all about the moving image and music. Obviously they both have a huge effect on us energetically and every other way. I am just fascinated.
I tried to use video and effects software for years now to try and re-create the effects of mandalas without really understanding the information that is out there about frequencies. All it comes down to is frequencies. Hopefully some day I'll be able to share my work with you guys. I think I have enough info on this thread to keep me researching for a long time.

[Poly Hedra]

This a really cool link that connects all type of things like planets and chakras, body organs etc to frequencies.
http://www.greatdreams.com/hertz.htm
This is also a really cool link, a blog about frequencies.
http://www.echad.se/echad-science-tu...io-frequencies

[Poly Hedra]

I found this guy on youtube called Mythmath Films. His videos are what I've been trying to figure out relateing to frequencies and shapes. He has apparantly invented something called a Kymotropic machine which (well I dont know) oscillators and other hardware that I dont have a clue about. Here is a video using the Solfeggio Frequencies. In the shapes you can see a triangle, a square, a star, the vesica pisces, its amazing to see all of these shapes coming out of the circle - the monad. As I have been studying sacred geometry for a while now, its so satisifying to see what I've learned about these geometric designs in real-time.
Enjoy

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=d0-8Iw7YOiI

[Bo Atkinson]

Wow, MythMathFilms Expanded Solfeggio seems to 3d render oscilloscope streamed-traces onto a donut torus. Or just one repeated stream as same stream for every, higher, synchronized octave shifts.

Magnetic fluids are interesting and could reflect (like a reverberating disco ball), a digital projection of oscilloscope traces, for entertainment music venues. (Oscilloscope or spectrum analysers could project accurate generation of playing music). So it's another of my crazy entertainment visualizations.

This website shows some still pictures of magnetic fluid, but there are others, maybe better ones at that.
http://www.zigersnead.com/current/bl...-02-2008/1569/

I've just been to lazy to set a dish of my ferro-fluid over a large speaker, buying new or fixing old stereo. Then reflect light from ferro-fluid.

I don't mean disrespect to people who feel there is a sacredness to special vibration patterns. The universe has many kinds of rhythms and beat frequencies for many kinds of occasions. I take ascension as a pulling self up by their boot straps, to a large extent. That said i like selections from ambient music, environmental, traditional, dance, popular, shamanic, classical music, and a lot more, all at the same time

Anyone here into crazy ideas like that?)

[meeradas]

Posted by conec (here)
Here it is again: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...714#post429714

Conec, all i get is a 404.
Again?

[Poly Hedra]

Here is the original story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16681630

[WhiteFeather]

Perhaps these new frequency's/energy's that are emanating from The Center Of Our Galactic Plane to Planet Earth may just have a beneficial impact to all of its species as well. And If So, Is this frequency making people finally wake up. Can this be a structure of The Divine Intervention? A Thought I Tapped into From The Universal Consciousness Field While Viewing This Awesome Thread. Hey you never know. : ) I Would love to HEAR your response on my perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=euAcZUtAU38

[Alie]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Perhaps these new frequency's/energy's that are emanating from The Center Of Our Galactic Plane to Planet Earth may just have a beneficial impact to all of its species as well. And If So, Is this frequency making people finally wake up. Can this be a structure of The Divine Intervention? A Thought I Tapped into From The Universal Consciousness Field While Viewing This Awesome Thread. Hey you never know. : ) I Would love to HEAR your response on my perspective.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=euAcZUtAU38

I think it has to do with harmonics. Perhaps its the folks who have a frequency that harmonizes with the frequency being sent our way. Because think about those who are awakening --- it seems they think way outside the box --- which is usually related to lifestyle choices.

[Bo Atkinson]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)
Perhaps these new frequency's/energy's that are emanating from The Center Of Our Galactic Plane to Planet Earth may just have a beneficial impact to all of its species as well. And If So, Is this frequency making people finally wake up. Can this be a structure of The Divine Intervention? A Thought I Tapped into From The Universal Consciousness Field While Viewing This Awesome Thread. Hey you never know. : ) I Would love to HEAR your response on my perspective.

RE: https://youtube.com/watch?v=euAcZUtAU38

I like subtle music even regardless of some label claims, with an open-minded-friendliness. I believe in spending time with nature and the sounds in the wild, or with music or resonation of solfeggio outdoors. But last two years, my ear is filled with avalon-camelot stuff, redicecreations, etc... I believe in hard labor like landscaping and permaculture.... Additionally fit together, as a routine for working out, keeping fit and appreciating the salt of the earth lore or the whistleblowers alike. Or the spiritualists or engineers on podcasts. Or talking shop like how to fix that car. All in days of work and contemplation, between days of making a living odd jobbing, hand-to-mouthy (40 years). One of the interesting things with resonance, noted by Tesla, was the positive-feedback, where for each beat, a synchronized beat of the same freq and phase chimes in at a sweet spot adding increased power to standing waves or perhaps progressions of these. Electronic re-mixing is interesting, but getting these sounds from wood instruments appeals more.

[Poly Hedra]

Posted by wavydome (here)
Wow, MythMathFilms Expanded Solfeggio seems to 3d render oscilloscope streamed-traces onto a donut torus. Or just one repeated stream as same stream for every, higher, synchronized octave shifts.

Magnetic fluids are interesting and could reflect (like a reverberating disco ball), a digital projection of oscilloscope traces, for entertainment music venues. (Oscilloscope or spectrum analysers could project accurate generation of playing music). So it's another of my crazy entertainment visualizations.

This website shows some still pictures of magnetic fluid, but there are others, maybe better ones at that.
http://www.zigersnead.com/current/bl...-02-2008/1569/

I've just been to lazy to set a dish of my ferro-fluid over a large speaker, buying new or fixing old stereo. Then reflect light from ferro-fluid.

I don't mean disrespect to people who feel there is a sacredness to special vibration patterns. The universe has many kinds of rhythms and beat frequencies for many kinds of occasions. I take ascension as a pulling self up by their boot straps, to a large extent. That said i like selections from ambient music, environmental, traditional, dance, popular, shamanic, classical music, and a lot more, all at the same time

Anyone here into crazy ideas like that?)

I know what your saying about a sacredness to special vibration patterns but I also do visuals in clubs (not for ages though) and make video art and I love electronic music. I see no issue with wanting to use these images for those purposes too. My thinking is the more people who see these images and get to see, even subconsciously, is a good thing. Maybe it can awaken something in them on a deeper level.


Whitefeather
I have an MP3 of the Schumann resonance and it's also a binaural beat recording. Is the Earth's frequency getting higher and higher?
I have the Solfeggio frequencies in order as a meditation to listen to. I guess that maybe we need to hear all the frequencies as opposed to just 528hz?
The notes relating to body organs, mood, performance etc.
I have this software that uses binaural beats to (as it claims) induce different states like concentration, theta, pain relief, various mind-altering drugs.
I tried it with the pain relief when I was up all night with a toothache and couldnt go to the dentist for 8hrs. I went into a trance and 8hrs felt like an hour, it was pretty cool really.

[Bo Atkinson]

I think pesn.com vets things fairly well with healthy, initial, scientific skepticism. So if Sterling put these links up, these are probably worth looking through (as pre-filterd from shill-science or new age shill distractions). Whitefeather, i mean nothing disparaging to the alt-tonality-choir, but many avalonians like to see some balancing between alternative science and alternative spirituality as well. Scroll down the linked page to see how throat tonalities were used to modulate John's tone broadcasting--
For: Oil Cleanup Confounds Coast Guard with Hutchison Solution.
http://pesn.com/2011/02/13/9501764_C...utchison_Says/



This mp3 interview is hosted by a very down to earth woman, who interviews top rated peoples in some of her shows. I think it was inferred that the strange noise thread here, recently, was hearing some of John's modulations? (Perhaps a small point).

BTW, sure, some prominent avalonian-camaloters have sort of bunked John's work, but without peer-reviews. It seems to me none of them could speak conversationally about electronics, modulation, etc.... I studied a course, but could not afford the lab component at that time.

http://pesn.com/2011/08/04/9501882_J...azaryan_elope/


This is an earlier thread parallel to some posts here.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...etic-symptoms&

[Poly Hedra]

I'm reading this book at the moment.. I thought I'd share it here. A good read.

Sacred Geometry: Philosophy and Practice
by Robert Lawlor
The thinkers of ancient Egypt, Greece and India recognized that numbers governed much of what they saw in their world and hence provided an approach to its divine creator. Robert Lawlor sets out the system that determines the dimension and the form of both man-made and natural structures, from Gothic cathedrals to flowers, from music to the human body.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...acred_Geometry

[Silentthinker]

a thought for you all...i don't talk much but i saw this.
http://www.greatdreams.com/hertz.htm
a list of connections of what different frequencies do... look midway down from 6 to 9 hz maybe up to 10
what the correspond to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_rhythm
look at that
then look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism#Neuropsychology
and the pathophysiology
abnormal immune system response...great growth early..slow growth late
maybe something good coming in, then a trauma then it stops?
or slows down slower than normal

[Silentthinker]

and this too


In humans, the frontal lobe reaches full maturity around only after the 20s,[1] marking the cognitive maturity associated with adulthood.

Dr. Arthur Toga, a UCLA professor of neurology, found increased myelin in the frontal lobe white matter of young adults compared to that of teens. A typical onset of schizophrenia in early adult years correlates with poorly myelinated and thus inefficient connections between cells in the fore-brain.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontal_lobe
also:
Function

The executive functions of the frontal lobes involve the ability to recognize future consequences resulting from current actions, to choose between good and bad actions (or better and best), override and suppress unacceptable social responses, and determine similarities and differences between things or events. Therefore, it is involved in higher mental functions.

The frontal lobes also play an important part in retaining longer term memories which are not task-based. These are often memories associated with emotions derived from input from the brain's limbic system. The frontal lobe modifies those emotions to generally fit socially acceptable norms.

Psychological tests that measure frontal lobe function include finger tapping, Wisconsin Card Sorting Task, and measures of verbal and figural fluency.[2]
also the cerebral cortex:
The cerebral cortex is a sheet of neural tissue that is outermost to the cerebrum of the mammalian brain. It covers the cerebrum and cerebellum, and is divided into left and right hemispheres. The cerebral cortex plays a key role in memory, attention, perceptual awareness, thought, language, and consciousness. It consists of up to six horizontal layers, each with a different composition in terms of neurons and connectivity. The human cerebral cortex is 2–4 mm (0.08–0.16 inches) thick.[1]
an overconnection in the cerebral cortex and an underfunction in the frontal lobe...

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ooh this too...
Other evidence suggests the underconnectivity is mainly within each hemisphere of the cortex and that autism is a disorder of the association cortex.[100]
Association areas

Association areas function to produce a meaningful perceptual experience of the world, enable us to interact effectively, and support abstract thinking and language. The parietal, temporal, and occipital lobes - all located in the posterior part of the cortex - organize sensory information into a coherent perceptual model of our environment centered on our body image. The frontal lobe or prefrontal association complex is involved in planning actions and movement, as well as abstract thought. In the past it was theorized that language abilities are localized in the left hemisphere in areas 44/45, the Broca's area, for language expression and area 22, the Wernicke's area, for language reception. However, language is no longer limited to easily identifiable areas. More recent research suggests that the processes of language expression and reception occur in areas other than just the perisylvian structures, such as the prefrontal lobe, basal ganglia, cerebellum, pons, caudate nucleus, and others. The association areas integrate information from different receptors or sensory areas and relate the information to past experiences. Then the brain makes a decision and sends nerve impulses to the motor areas to give responses. [20

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again from wikipedia
From studies based on event-related potentials, transient changes to the brain's electrical activity in response to stimuli, there is considerable evidence for differences in autistic individuals with respect to attention, orientiation to auditory and visual stimuli, novelty detection, language and face processing, and information storage; several studies have found a preference for nonsocial stimuli.[101] For example, magnetoencephalography studies have found evidence in autistic children of delayed responses in the brain's processing of auditory signals.[102]


In the genetic area, relations have been found between autism and schizophrenia based on duplications and deletions of chromosomes; research showed that schizophrenia and autism are significantly more common in combination with 1q21.1 deletion syndrome. Research on autism/schizophrenia relations for chromosome 15 (15q13.3), chromosome 16 (16p13.1) and chromosome 17 (17p12) are inconclusive.[103]

what if it's psychic ability and the spirit trying to come through? i see something but the pieces i don't see all of...

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These theories are somewhat related to the earlier theory of mind approach, which hypothesizes that autistic behavior arises from an inability to ascribe mental states to oneself and others. The theory of mind hypothesis is supported by autistic children's atypical responses to the Sally–Anne test for reasoning about others' motivations,[104] and the mirror neuron system theory of autism described in Pathophysiology maps well to the hypothesis.[91] However, most studies have found no evidence of impairment in autistic individuals' ability to understand other people's basic intentions or goals; instead, data suggests that impairments are found in understanding more complex social emotions or in considering others' viewpoints.[106]

what if they see somehow the absolute and not the relative, are trying to go by some higher law instead of societies false rules?

[Silentthinker]

The second category focuses on nonsocial or general processing. Executive dysfunction hypothesizes that autistic behavior results in part from deficits in working memory, planning, inhibition, and other forms of executive function.[107] Tests of core executive processes such as eye movement tasks indicate improvement from late childhood to adolescence, but performance never reaches typical adult levels.[108] A strength of the theory is predicting stereotyped behavior and narrow interests;[109] two weaknesses are that executive function is hard to measure[107] and that executive function deficits have not been found in young autistic children.[28]

Weak central coherence theory hypothesizes that a limited ability to see the big picture underlies the central disturbance in autism. One strength of this theory is predicting special talents and peaks in performance in autistic people.[110] A related theory—enhanced perceptual functioning—focuses more on the superiority of locally oriented and perceptual operations in autistic individuals.[111] These theories map well from the underconnectivity theory of autism.

Neither category is satisfactory on its own; social cognition theories poorly address autism's rigid and repetitive behaviors, while the nonsocial theories have difficulty explaining social impairment and communication difficulties.[63] A combined theory based on multiple deficits may prove to be more useful.[112]

The executive system is a theorized cognitive system in psychology that controls and manages other cognitive processes. It is responsible for processes that are sometimes referred to as the executive function, executive functions, executive skills, supervisory attentional system, or cognitive control. These functions are largely carried out by prefrontal areas of the frontal lobe.

Executive function is an umbrella term for cognitive processes such as planning, working memory, attention, problem solving, verbal reasoning, inhibition, mental flexibility, multi-tasking, and initiation and monitoring of actions.[1]
The executive functions are located primarily in the prefrontal regions of the frontal lobe. These areas have multiple connections with other cortical, subcortical and brainstem regions.[2] Neuroimaging and lesion studies have identified the functions which are most often associated with the particular regions of the prefrontal cortex.[2]

The dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (DLPFC) is involved with “on-line” processing of information such as integrating different dimensions of cognition and behaviour.[3] As such, this area has been found to be associated with verbal and design fluency, ability to maintain and shift set, planning, response inhibition, working memory, organisational skills, reasoning, problem solving and abstract thinking.[2][4]
The anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is involved in emotional drives, experience and integration.[3] Associated cognitive functions include inhibition of inappropriate responses, decision making and motivated behaviours. Lesions in this area can lead to low drive states such as apathy, abulia or akinetic mutism and may also result in low drive states for such basic needs as food or drink and possibly decreased interest in social or vocational activities and sex.[3][5]

The orbitofrontal cortex (OFC) plays a key role in impulse control, maintenance of set, monitoring ongoing behaviour and socially appropriate behaviours.[3] The orbitofrontal cortex also has roles in representing the value of rewards based on sensory stimuli and evaluating subjective emotional experiences.[6] Lesions can cause disinhibition, impulsivity, aggressive outbursts, sexual promiscuity and antisocial behaviour.[2]

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The executive system is thought to be heavily involved in handling novel situations outside the domain of some of our 'automatic' psychological processes that could be explained by the reproduction of learned schemas or set behaviors. Psychologists Don Norman and Tim Shallice have outlined five types of situations in which routine activation of behavior would not be sufficient for optimal performance:[7]

Those that involve planning or decision making
Those that involve error correction or troubleshooting
Situations where responses are not well-rehearsed or contain novel sequences of actions
Dangerous or technically difficult situations
Situations that require the overcoming of a strong habitual response or resisting temptation.

The executive functions are often invoked when it is necessary to override responses that might otherwise be automatically elicited by stimuli in the external environment. For example, on being presented with a potentially rewarding stimulus, such as a tasty piece of chocolate cake, a person might have the automatic response to take a bite. However, where such behavior conflicts with internal plans (such as having decided not to eat chocolate cake while on a diet), the executive functions might be engaged to inhibit that response.

Although suppression of these "prepotent responses" is ordinarily considered adaptive, problems for the development of the individual and the culture arise when feelings of right and wrong are overridden by cultural expectations or when creative impulses are overridden by executive inhibitions.[8]

The neural mechanisms by which the executive functions are implemented is a topic of ongoing debate in the field of cognitive neuroscience. Traditionally, there has been a strong focus on the frontal lobes, but more recent brain research indicates that executive functions are far more distributed across the cortex.

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Many medications are used to treat ASD symptoms that interfere with integrating a child into home or school when behavioral treatment fails.[20][136] More than half of US children diagnosed with ASD are prescribed psychoactive drugs or anticonvulsants, with the most common drug classes being antidepressants, stimulants, and antipsychotics.[137] Aside from antipsychotics,[138] there is scant reliable research about the effectiveness or safety of drug treatments for adolescents and adults with ASD.[139] A person with ASD may respond atypically to medications, the medications can have adverse effects,[12] and no known medication relieves autism's core symptoms of social and communication impairments.[140] Experiments in mice have reversed or reduced some symptoms related to autism by replacing or modulating gene function,[68][87] suggesting the possibility of targeting therapies to specific rare mutations known to cause autism.[67][141]

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drugs and such to re-integrate them into society...

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how about attention deficit disorder?
Symptoms
DSM-IV criteria

The DSM-IV allows for diagnosis of the predominantly inattentive subtype of ADHD (under code 314.00) if the individual presents six or more of the following symptoms of inattention for at least six months to a point that is disruptive and inappropriate for developmental level:

Often does not give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other activities.
Often has trouble keeping attention on tasks or play activities.
Often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly.
Often does not follow instructions and fails to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the workplace (not due to oppositional behavior or failure to understand instructions).
Often has trouble organizing activities.
Often avoids, dislikes, or doesn't want to do things that take a lot of mental effort for a long period (such as schoolwork or homework).
Often loses things needed for tasks and activities (e.g. toys, school assignments, pencils, books, or tools).
Is often easily distracted.
Is often forgetful in daily activities.
Often mixes up peoples' names or forgets them for short periods of time.

An ADD diagnosis is contingent upon the symptoms of impairment presenting themselves in two or more settings (e.g., at school or work and at home). There must also be clear evidence of clinically significant impairment in social, academic, or occupational functioning. Lastly, the symptoms must not occur exclusively during the course of a pervasive developmental disorder, schizophrenia, or other psychotic disorder, and are not better accounted for by another mental disorder (e.g., mood disorder, anxiety disorder, dissociative disorder, personality disorder).

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Treatment

Recent studies indicate that medications approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the treatment of ADHD tend to work well in individuals with the predominantly inattentive type. These medications include two classes of drugs, stimulants and non-stimulants. Drugs for ADHD are divided into first-line medications and second-line medications. First-line medications include several of the stimulants, and tend to have a higher response rate and effect size than second-line medications.[13] Some of the most common stimulants are Methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta), Adderall and Vyvanse. Second-line medications are usually anti-depressant medications such as Zoloft, Prozac, and Wellbutrin. These medications can help with fidgeting, inattentiveness, irritability, and trouble sleeping. Some of the symptoms the medications target are also found with ADD patients.[14]

Although medication can help improve concentration, it does not cure ADD and the symptoms will come back once the medication stops. Medication works better for some patients while it barely works for others.[15]

Along with medication, behavioral therapy is recommended to improve organizational skills, study techniques or social functioning.

stimulants...amphetamines...speed/meth...demons..sympathetic resonance...

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don't forget what school is...a program of entrainment to teach people to live a certain way...it's not education simply it's about making their behaviors fit with society...give them the way to think for their jobs and the 9-5 job and house and wife and kids and the american pipe dream...

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Inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity are the key behaviors of ADHD. The symptoms of ADHD are especially difficult to define because it is hard to draw the line at where normal levels of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity end and clinically significant levels requiring intervention begin.[15] To be diagnosed with ADHD, symptoms must be observed in two different settings for six months or more and to a degree that is greater than other children of the same age.[28]

The symptom categories of ADHD in children yield three potential classifications of ADHD—predominantly inattentive type, predominantly hyperactive-impulsive type, or combined type if criteria for both subtypes are met:[15].4

Predominantly inattentive type symptoms may include:[29]

Be easily distracted, miss details, forget things, and frequently switch from one activity to another
Have difficulty maintaining focus on one task
Become bored with a task after only a few minutes, unless doing something enjoyable
Have difficulty focusing attention on organizing and completing a task or learning something new or trouble completing or turning in homework assignments, often losing things (e.g., pencils, toys, assignments) needed to complete tasks or activities
Not seem to listen when spoken to
Daydream, become easily confused, and move slowly
Have difficulty processing information as quickly and accurately as others
Struggle to follow instructions.

Predominantly hyperactive-impulsive type symptoms may include:[29]

Fidget and squirm in their seats
Talk nonstop
Dash around, touching or playing with anything and everything in sight
Have trouble sitting still during dinner, school, and story time
Be constantly in motion
Have difficulty doing quiet tasks or activities.

and also these manifestations primarily of impulsivity:[29]

Be very impatient
Blurt out inappropriate comments, show their emotions without restraint, and act without regard for consequences
Have difficulty waiting for things they want or waiting their turns in games

Most people exhibit some of these behaviors, but not to the degree where such behaviors significantly interfere with a person's work, relationships, or studies—and in the absence of significant interference or impairment, a diagnosis of ADHD is normally not appropriate. The core impairments are consistent even in different cultural contexts.[30]

Symptoms may persist into adulthood for up to half of children diagnosed with ADHD. This rate is difficult to estimate, as there are no official diagnostic criteria for ADHD in adults.[15] ADHD in adults remains a clinical diagnosis. The signs and symptoms may differ from those during childhood and adolescence due to the adaptive processes and avoidance mechanisms learned during the process of socialisation.[31]

A 2009 study found that children with ADHD move around a lot because it helps them stay alert enough to complete challenging tasks.[32][33]

kids that want to physically play...learn by doing not by sitting and listening....

Comorbid disorders


Inattention and "hyperactive" behavior are not necessarily the only problems in children with ADHD. ADHD exists alone in only about 1/3 of the children diagnosed with it. The combination of ADHD with other conditions can greatly complicate diagnosis and treatment. Many co-existing conditions require other courses of treatment and should be diagnosed separately instead of being grouped in the ADHD diagnosis.

There is a strong association between persistent bed wetting and ADHD[34] Multiple research studies have also found a significant association between ADHD and language delay.[35] Anxiety and depression are some of the disorders that can accompany ADHD. Academic studies, and research in private practice suggest that depression in ADHD appears to be increasingly prevalent in children as they get older, with a higher rate of increase in girls than in boys, and to vary in prevalence with the subtype of ADHD. Where a mood disorder complicates ADHD, it would be prudent to treat the mood disorder first, but parents of children with ADHD often wish to have the ADHD treated first, because the response to treatment is quicker.[36]

bed wetting...depression...fear...trauma of some kind? or losing something...that spark....not wanting to be put to sleep?

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Some of the associated conditions are:

Oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder, which occur with ADHD at a rate of 50 percent and 20 percent respectively,[37] are characterized by antisocial behaviors such as stubbornness, aggression, frequent temper tantrums, deceitfulness, lying, or stealing,[38] inevitably linking these comorbid disorders with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD); about half of those with hyperactivity and ODD or CD develop ASPD in adulthood.[39] However, modern brain imaging technology indicates that conduct disorder and ADHD are two distinct conditions.[40]

negative thoughtforms/archons/parasites coming through that are not yet bound by the rules put in by the controllers of society?

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Borderline personality disorder, which was according to a study on 120 female psychiatric patients diagnosed and treated for BPD associated with ADHD in 70 percent of those cases.[41]
Primary disorder of vigilance, which is characterized by poor attention and concentration, as well as difficulties staying awake. These children tend to fidget, yawn and stretch and appear to be hyperactive in order to remain alert and active.[38]
tired...maybe they want to dream and wander outside and be free again?

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Mood disorders. Boys diagnosed with the combined subtype have been shown likely to suffer from a mood disorder.[42]
Bipolar disorder. Adults with ADHD sometimes have co-morbid bipolar disorder, which requires careful assessment in order to accurately diagnose and treat both conditions.[43]
bipolar disorder....some kind of imbalance between male and female? or some other kind of imbalance...the mind is not just physical...it's thought and energy as well. lithium is the third lightest element and the lightest solid...

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Anxiety disorder, which has been found to be common in girls diagnosed with the inattentive subtype of ADHD.[44]

anxiety...fear...the talk about the distortion of the image of the divine feminine...trauma...

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Obsessive-compulsive disorder. OCD can co-occur with ADHD and shares many of its characteristics.[38]

In adults
Main article: Adult attention deficit hyperactivity disorder

Researchers found that 60 percent of the children diagnosed with ADHD continue having symptoms well into adulthood.[45][46] Many adults, however, remain untreated.[45] Untreated adults with ADHD often have chaotic lifestyles, may appear to be disorganized and may rely on non-prescribed drugs and alcohol to get by.[47] They often have such associated psychiatric comorbidities as depression, anxiety disorder, substance abuse, or a learning disability.[47] A diagnosis of ADHD may offer adults insight into their behaviors and allow patients to become more aware and seek help with coping and treatment strategies.[46] Recognized as occurring in adults in 1978, it is currently not addressed separately from ADHD in childhood. Obstacles that clinicians face when assessing adults who may have ADHD include developmentally inappropriate diagnostic criteria, age-related changes, comorbidities and the possibility that high intelligence or situational factors can mask ADHD.

that sounds like a lot of people out there with problems to me...like the talk of starseeds that found their childhoods too tough....though that's not quite right either i think

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The World Health Organization states that the diagnosis of ADHD can represent family dysfunction or inadequacies in the educational system rather than individual psychopathology.[83] Other researchers believe that relationships with caregivers have a profound effect on attentional and self-regulatory abilities. A study of foster children found that a high number of them had symptoms closely resembling ADHD.[84] Researchers have found behavior typical of ADHD in children who have suffered violence and emotional abuse.[24][85] Furthermore, Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can result in attention problems that can look like ADHD.[86] ADHD is also considered to be related to sensory integration dysfunction.[87]

A 2010 article by CNN suggests that there is an increased risk for internationally adopted children to develop mental health disorders, such as ADHD and ODD.[88] The risk may be related to the length of time the children spent in an orphanage, especially if they were neglected or abused. Many of these families who adopted the affected children feel overwhelmed and frustrated, since managing their children may entail more responsibilities than originally anticipated. The adoption agencies may be aware of the child's behavioral history, but decide to withhold the information prior to the adoption. This in turn has resulted in some parents suing adoption agencies, in the abuse of children, and even in the relinquishment of the child.

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As ADHD is more common that 1 percent of the population, researchers have proposed that due to the high prevalance of ADHD that natural selection has favoured ADHD possibly due to increased 'reproductive fitness'.[55]

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Twin studies indicate that the disorder is highly heritable and that genetics are a factor in about 75 percent of all cases.[24] Hyperactivity also seems to be primarily a genetic condition; however, other causes have been identified.[49]

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The World Health Organization states that the diagnosis of ADHD can represent family dysfunction or inadequacies in the educational system rather than individual psychopathology.[83] Other researchers believe that relationships with caregivers have a profound effect on attentional and self-regulatory abilities. A study of foster children found that a high number of them had symptoms closely resembling ADHD.[84] Researchers have found behavior typical of ADHD in children who have suffered violence and emotional abuse.[24][85] Furthermore, Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder can result in attention problems that can look like ADHD.[86] ADHD is also considered to be related to sensory integration dysfunction.[87]

foster kids...no love?

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Proponents of the neurodiversity theory assert that atypical (neurodivergent) neurological development is a normal human difference that is to be tolerated and respected just like any other human difference. Social critics argue that while biological factors may play a large role in difficulties with sitting still in class and/or concentrating on schoolwork in some children, these children could have failed to integrate others' social expectations of their behavior for a variety of other reasons.[89] As genetic research into ADHD proceeds, it may become possible to integrate this information with the neurobiology in order to distinguish disability from varieties of normal or even exceptional functioning in people along the same spectrum of attention differences.[90]

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Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests itself as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. The onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood, with a global lifetime prevalence of about 0.3–0.7%.[2] Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the patient's reported experiences.

perhaps somehow the veil for them is torn slightly...they wake up and see...but are not ready, and it drives them insane?

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or they simply go and see and don't know and simply see the darker places?

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The disorder is thought mainly to affect cognition, but it also usually contributes to chronic problems with behavior and emotion. People with schizophrenia are likely to have additional (comorbid) conditions, including major depression and anxiety disorders; the lifetime occurrence of substance abuse is almost 50%.[5] Social problems, such as long-term unemployment, poverty and homelessness, are common. The average life expectancy of people with the disorder is 12 to 15 years less than those without, the result of increased physical health problems and a higher suicide rate (about 5%).[2]

again they cannot integrate into society...the programming doesn't work right for them...they cannot integrate their experiences with reality because they do not understand what they are seeing and experiencing...a glimpse of non-rational,non-ordinary knowing.

also sorry to post this all in this thread, mods feel free to move it if you wish, i'm just letting my mind make the connections.

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Schizophrenia is often described in terms of positive and negative (or deficit) symptoms.[18] Positive symptoms are those that most individuals do not normally experience but are present in people with schizophrenia. They can include delusions, disordered thoughts and speech, and tactile, auditory, visual, olfactory and gustatory hallucinations, typically regarded as manifestations of psychosis.[19] Hallucinations are also typically related to the content of the delusional theme.[20] Positive symptoms generally respond well to medication.[20] Negative symptoms are deficits of normal emotional responses or of other thought processes, and respond less well to medication.[6] They commonly include flat or blunted affect and emotion, poverty of speech (alogia), inability to experience pleasure (anhedonia), lack of desire to form relationships (asociality), and lack of motivation (avolition). Research suggests that negative symptoms contribute more to poor quality of life, functional disability, and the burden on others than do positive symptoms.[21] People with prominent negative symptoms often have a history of poor adjustment before the onset of illness, and response to medication is often limited.[6][22]

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Cannabis is associated with a dose-dependent increase in the risk of developing a psychotic disorder[35] with frequent use being correlated with twice the risk of psychosis and schizophrenia.[34][36] While cannabis use is accepted as a contributory cause of schizophrenia by many,[37] it remains controversial.[25][38] Amphetamine, cocaine, and to a lesser extent alcohol, can result in psychosis that presents very similarly to schizophrenia.[3][39] Although not generally believed to be a cause of the illness, people with schizophrenia use nicotine at much greater rates than the general population.[40]

cannabis i read somewhere on another thread is a substance that allows greater connection to source, a gift from off planet or whatever....too much connection without understanding causing problems again...same thing with psychedelics...maybe that's part of why the 60s failed...too many drugs, opening a door and letting too much in, I was in one town on the west coast, i won't say specifically where, with a hippy neighborhood where all people thought about in a lot of their lives was lust and this desire for true love with incompatible people...like the alien live bite thing sorta, but it was a part of the place, hippy love and the summer of love gone wrong. This place had a local rumour that an insane asylum was closed years back and the patients left on the street, maybe too much insanity in one place, add on all the crazy crusty deadheads in that place, some good some gone mad...like the tale of the island of the lotus eaters in the odyssey...another myth, an archetype, a story. too many psychedelics...

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A number of drugs have been associated with the development of schizophrenia, including cannabis, cocaine, and amphetamines.[3] About half of those with schizophrenia use drugs and/or alcohol excessively.[32] The role of cannabis could be causal,[33] but other drugs may be used only as coping mechanisms to deal with depression, anxiety, boredom, and loneliness.[32][34]

artificial sympathetic resonance to various levels of reality causing issues too?

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Many psychological mechanisms have been implicated in the development and maintenance of schizophrenia. Cognitive biases have been identified in those with the diagnosis or those at risk, especially when under stress or in confusing situations.[42] Some cognitive features may reflect global neurocognitive deficits such as memory loss, while others may be related to particular issues and experiences.[43][44]

Despite a demonstrated appearance of blunted affect, recent findings indicate that many individuals diagnosed with schizophrenia are emotionally responsive, particularly to stressful or negative stimuli, and that such sensitivity may cause vulnerability to symptoms or to the disorder.[45][46] Some evidence suggests that the content of delusional beliefs and psychotic experiences can reflect emotional causes of the disorder, and that how a person interprets such experiences can influence symptomatology.[47][48][49] The use of "safety behaviors" to avoid imagined threats may contribute to the chronicity of delusions.[50] Further evidence for the role of psychological mechanisms comes from the effects of psychotherapies on symptoms of schizophrenia.[51]

bold:too much sensitivity, but focussed on the dark?

underlined:wrong knowing? flawed or different view of reality?

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Schizophrenia is associated with subtle differences in brain structures, found in 40 to 50% of cases, and in brain chemistry during acute psychotic states.[2] Studies using neuropsychological tests and brain imaging technologies such as fMRI and PET to examine functional differences in brain activity have shown that differences seem to most commonly occur in the frontal lobes, hippocampus and temporal lobes.[52] Reductions in brain volume, smaller than those found in Alzheimer's disease, have been reported in areas of the frontal cortex and temporal lobes. It is uncertain whether these volumetric changes are progressive or preexist prior to the onset of the disease.[53] These differences have been linked to the neurocognitive deficits often associated with schizophrenia.[54] Because neural circuits are altered, it has alternatively been suggested that schizophrenia should be thought of as a collection of neurodevelopmental disorders.[55]
frontal lobe i think i posted on above already
bold: the areas effected are a part of it, what they effect is the key somehow.
underline:a physical change in the brain structure, related to psychic ability, like autism and add and adhd? the brain is a computer, used by the spirit and the soul. it's like a hologram, effects on a nonphysical level will always be shown in the physical body too, however, without linking the nonphysical/nonrational understanding with the physical/rational/right brained/rational/scientific view i think the true causes can't be seen, so a proper diagnosis can't be made, and a proper treatment or solution to the problems cannot be found. you gotta take the pieces taken apart by science and start putting it back together, with nonrational understanding and that other world mixed in to see the truth of these diseases.

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Particular attention has been paid to the function of dopamine in the mesolimbic pathway of the brain. This focus largely resulted from the accidental finding that phenothiazine drugs, which block dopamine function, could reduce psychotic symptoms. It is also supported by the fact that amphetamines, which trigger the release of dopamine, may exacerbate the psychotic symptoms in schizophrenia.[56] The influential dopamine hypothesis of schizophrenia proposed that excessive activation of D2 receptors was the cause of (the positive symptoms of) schizophrenia. Although postulated for about 20 years based on the D2 blockade effect common to all antipsychotics, it was not until the mid-1990s that PET and SPET imaging studies provided supporting evidence. The dopamine hypothesis is now thought to be simplistic, partly because newer antipsychotic medication (atypical antipsychotic medication) can be just as effective as older medication (typical antipsychotic medication), but also affects serotonin function and may have slightly less of a dopamine blocking effect.[57]

ampethamines again...negative reptilian/archontic sympathetic resonance?

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Interest has also focused on the neurotransmitter glutamate and the reduced function of the NMDA glutamate receptor in schizophrenia, largely because of the abnormally low levels of glutamate receptors found in the postmortem brains of those diagnosed with schizophrenia,[58] and the discovery that glutamate-blocking drugs such as phencyclidine and ketamine can mimic the symptoms and cognitive problems associated with the condition.[59] Reduced glutamate function is linked to poor performance on tests requiring frontal lobe and hippocampal function, and glutamate can affect dopamine function, both of which have been implicated in schizophrenia, have suggested an important mediating (and possibly causal) role of glutamate pathways in the condition.[60] But positive symptoms fail to respond to glutamatergic medication.[61]

these drugs are dissociative anesthetics, they work by seperating the mind from the body....

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Interest has also focused on the neurotransmitter glutamate and the reduced function of the NMDA glutamate receptor in schizophrenia, largely because of the abnormally low levels of glutamate receptors found in the postmortem brains of those diagnosed with schizophrenia,[58] and the discovery that glutamate-blocking drugs such as phencyclidine and ketamine can mimic the symptoms and cognitive problems associated with the condition.[59] Reduced glutamate function is linked to poor performance on tests requiring frontal lobe and hippocampal function, and glutamate can affect dopamine function, both of which have been implicated in schizophrenia, have suggested an important mediating (and possibly causal) role of glutamate pathways in the condition.[60] But positive symptoms fail to respond to glutamatergic medication.[61]

these drugs are dissociative anesthetics, they work by seperating the mind from the body....