Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[aranuk]

Laugh and joke and ridicule as much as you like on your way to the FEMA camps. Just because Drake was a stooge for the cabal doesn't mean you guys are not going to suffer a wee bit. So Mr Ryan what do you suggest next? All American citizens pack up their belongings and take the next boat to South America and hide? Why not offer a sensible alternative to the plight of the people in USA? I certainly know that I don't know. However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

[Hervé]

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Thank you Stan for sharing your step of great improvement.

The caveat is that these suggestions may be coming from another professional hypnotist...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Christine (here)

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Hey foreverfan, I voted a Bush for President four times, don't feel too bad...

Oh, so you're the one that's caused all this mess.
You can run...but you can't hide. I'm watching you... Mr. Fred.

We are all watching you Mr. Steeves........

See Fred peddle. Peddle. Peddle. Peddle.
See Fred ride. Ride. Ride. Ride.

[aranuk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Thank you Stan for sharing your step of great improvement.

The caveat is that these suggestions may be coming from another professional hypnotist...

So then, what do you offer as a solution?

Stan

[Bill Ryan]

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For all who have not yet seen this, this is compulsory.

http://meemsy.com/v/2736

DRAKE 4th OF JULY GREEN LIGHT DOES NOT HAPPEN

(a couple of screenshots from this very brilliant 4 minute video made by our own gripreaper...)

[aranuk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Thank you Stan for sharing your step of great improvement.

The caveat is that these suggestions may be coming from another professional hypnotist...

With all respect in your direction Sir, I did NOT share ANY step for improvement at all. I made it very clear that I did NOT know but I am willing to listen to ANY sort of solution. Please don't be so sarcastic and try to ridicule me.


Stan

[RunningDeer]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Laugh and joke and ridicule as much as you like on your way to the FEMA camps. Just because Drake was a stooge for the cabal doesn't mean you guys are not going to suffer a wee bit. So Mr Ryan what do you suggest next? All American citizens pack up their belongings and take the next boat to South America and hide? Why not offer a sensible alternative to the plight of the people in USA? I certainly know that I don't know. However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.

Stan

I'm sorry, Stan. I agree with the points you raise. Sometimes when I'm feeling overwhelmed, I get into that comic relief place to diffuse the built up energy.

The FEMA camps are what scare me the most. The idea of being confined or controlled makes me think that I'd rather not be around. It's embarrassing to admit this because I consider myself a gutsy person. I'm a work in progress...

Peace Stan,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Christine]

Posted by aranuk (here)
Laugh and joke and ridicule as much as you like on your way to the FEMA camps. Just because Drake was a stooge for the cabal doesn't mean you guys are not going to suffer a wee bit. So Mr Ryan what do you suggest next? All American citizens pack up their belongings and take the next boat to South America and hide? Why not offer a sensible alternative to the plight of the people in USA? I certainly know that I don't know. However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Stan,

I know it is hard to laugh when the stakes are so high, but laughter is exactly what we need right now. Really it is the most sensible thing I can think of at this moment. It breaks apart fear, it takes down self importance, seriousness is lifted and sight returns, our insides love it, our friends love it, and we can all in-joy something together.

Do you really think that all these folks here on Project Avalon don't take the state of our world seriously? It is BECAUSE they do that we are having this moment together.

And since I live in South America and have spoken with Bill Ryan about why he is here I feel I can speak a bit for him. He isn't in hiding, he didn't particularly want to leave the US, he is not afraid, he is doing what he feels he must to preserve all the ground we have gained in bringing the Light to this planet and unveiling the macabre cabal. He pretty much works ceaselessly behind the scenes to bring about the real change we need.



There are lots of sensible and very serious threads on Project Avalon that are making real headway into what we can actually do, it sucks to feel disempowered but at least together we have a chance.

La Tigra

[Bill Ryan]

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Oh, Dear. Stan -- relax just a moment and laugh with everyone else. God knows we need it.

Of course serious solutions are needed. We've all just come to realize -- Avocadess included, to her great credit -- that Drake's answer is not the one.

[Hervé]

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
[...]

However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Thank you Stan for sharing your step of great improvement.

The caveat is that these suggestions may be coming from another professional hypnotist...

With all respect in your direction Sir, I did NOT share ANY step for improvement at all. I made it very clear that I did NOT know but I am willing to listen to ANY sort of solution. Please don't be so sarcastic and try to ridicule me.


Stan

Apologies good sir, I may have misunderstood your usage of the word "sensible" and took it as meaning: 6 having or showing good sense or sound judgment; intelligent, reasonnable, wise (Random House, college Ed.)

Since you have been following this thread, I have open my (not so) big mouthy keyboard to advocate the only two things that can constitutionally be done:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Cool data 000!

That's actually the only way the so-called "Federal Reserve" can be taken out since Congress has been rendered useless:

According to Section 4, part 2 of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913, it says of each of the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks:

“To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.“

Since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, their 20-year charter must have been extended.

A 20-year charter was also granted to the First and Second Banks of the United States, and both had their charter terminated. Yes, there was a time when privately owned central banks had time-limited charters, and for good reason, due to the havoc they caused.

12 U.S.C. § 341 : US Code – Section 341: General enumeration of powers shows:

“Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.“

Again, since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, this provision was either changed with some other time limit, or was never changed.

In fact, it was never changed, and, therefore, their charter doesn’t expire in 2012, and there was never a 99-year charter for the Federal Reserve.

From: http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21...xpire-in-2012/

... which Wilcock and Drake jump onto via the liens despite having nothing to do in initiating those.

...and:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
[...]

... it better not be about an Article 5 Convention, although that is the only remedy our forefathers put into the Constitution to remedy this situation. This "posits" an alert and involved electorate though, and that is not what we have. I'm scared sh1tless of the Article 5 Convention with the awareness of the electorate we have now.

Well, it is... but in a more structured way than the way Drake puts it... which might even be an attempt by the latter to derail what the former is doing.

Brooks Agnew knows what he talking about, Drake doesn't as he is being fed infos/disinfos.

There... a few of my centimes.

[gripreaper]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
-------

For all who have not yet seen this, this is compulsory.

http://meemsy.com/v/2736

DRAKE 4th OF JULY GREEN LIGHT DOES NOT HAPPEN

(a couple of screenshots from this very brilliant 4 minute video made by our own gripreaper...)

I guess I'm busted for doing this one too!

http://meemsy.com/v/2650

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by gripreaper (here)
I guess I'm busted for doing this one too!

http://meemsy.com/v/2650

Wonderful. Folks, this is even better than the first one.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The biggest success that psy-ops have had over the past few decades is the successful blurring of fact and fiction. This is because so many people spend their time watching fiction on screens that they can no longer tell the difference between what is real and what is Hollywood. Psy-ops were probably tipped off to how successful a strategy this would be when they saw the panicked reaction of the American people to the radio broadcast of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, narrated by Orson Wells, in 1938. And of course, it hasn't been difficult to get people to believe in a super-race of beings that they haven't so much as ever seen a photo of, who will bring their salvation from the heavens when for 2,000 years they had been brainwashed by religion to believe the exact same thing. God and the angels have just been replaced by ETs in this new religion that only requires your total and utter blind faith in the existence of these beings, which you have never seen, for entry into its hallowed portals for communion and absolution. No wonder they think we're stupid.

Sorry, but IMO, this is a silly reaction/rationalization.

I'll stick with the very first words I said after listening to the first broadcast by Drake, (something like) "I am convinced he is convinced." I still believe that ON THAT DAY, Drake would have passed a polygraph. He was not lying - he was duped. Duped by whom? Black-ops psy-ops guys? Way back channel, maybe, but Drake himself was convinced by whomever he was talking to, and more than likely, that meant that whomever he was talking to believed it too.

Have any of you ever been on stage? Any idea how difficult it would have been for Drake to go into character and speak the words he did, deliver the words the way he did, as an actor delivering rehearsed psy-ops lines? That's by far the LEAST likely scenario. Drake making it all up for attention is the second least likely scenario.

You really think an actor delivering psy-ops lines would flip out the way he did over a post made on Avalon? Wasn't that obvious that you were dealing with a single personality at that point?

"No wonder they think we're stupid."

No, we ARE stupid if we think for one minute this was a psy-op plan. Jesus H Christ, can't we recognize a regular, ordinary, flawed, human - just like us - when we meet one?

The most likely scenario (remember Occam's Razor, anyone?) is that there really was a plan, for decades, within some military personnel. Seems likely to me that thousands of military members watched JFK's head go back and to the left and watched the Joint Chiefs and the President lie - and the military guys couldn't do a damn thing about it. It probably festered for years in many military personnel's minds as the sickeningly phony story was repeated over and over.

In fact, I would have a very difficult time believing that no one had a plan to take out the rotten apples from the inside. I personally know an idiot that dedicated nearly three years to The Reset Button, a different plan to take out the rotten apples (well, the whole damn orchard, really), so I know there are people who will step up and create a plan. And, I know what it's like when people would rather watch reality TV, argue over Democrats and Republicans, or hold up signs saying "Jail the Bankers!" rather than even consider supporting or even signing a different plan that actually could work.

I stopped listening to Drake when his train went off the rails (Avalon freakout/second show?), so I don't know how crazy he got - but he probably got pretty crazy. Imagine if you believed in this plan for years and years, expected cooperation and cheers from citizens, and had to live through the plan's fizzle - imagine how heartbroken and angry you would be.

Still think he's a psy-ops guy? A liar?

Drake is a tragic character. A patriot ready to die trying to get the rotten scum out of the US government and the nefarious corporations. It didn't work. The plan did not materialize. Like I said, I suspect he went crazy as the plan fell apart and as he got no help and massive doses of ridicule. Does it appear to you that he has gone a bit (or a lot) crazy? And you're still poking the crazy guy with sticks? What does that say about YOU, dear reader?

So, may I respectfully recommend that people stop kicking and spitting on the guy
laying on the sidewalk. He tried. He failed. Oh, and don't worry, no one else is going to try, so you can put the slings and arrows back in the gun safe.

Dennis

p.s. Avocadess, as the OP, maybe this is a good time to request this thread be closed.

[foreverfan]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by Kelly (here)
People like Drake,
Will always be fake,
They need people to hang on their words,
But if people did not listen,
Then your eyes would not glisten,
With tears when you get let down some more,
If they did not have followers,
Then their words would not swallow us,
In lies designed on purpose,
To mislead and distract,
It is us who need to act,
And ignore their false facts,
And simply not feed them anymore.
It is your energy,
You are your own worst enemy,
You let them bleed you dry,
Pay no attention,
Don't be lead into detention,
By following words that are hollow,
Believe in only yourself,
Not promises of what may come tomorrow.

I never lost a dime listening to Drake
My energy is fine, so give me a break
There are many things happening behind the scenes
Haven't you heard of the Neil Keenan liens?
Every avenue must be fully explored
I'll listen to anyone who wants to move forward
You rugged individualists are determined to fail
Because it takes coordination for any ship to sail
Drake's just a guy who is part of a crew
If anything happens, it'll be in spite of you
So go ahead, spit venom and fling your turd
But if you're wrong I'll make sure you eat every damned word

Wait... nobody said it's over yet.

There's part II of the show tomorrow. This is just getting interesting. Anything can still happen. Drake says that over 3 million armed militia massed to take action on July 27. I wouldn't close the thread just yet since it will die on it's own soon enough.

Dare I say that Drake could actually be putting out false information to trick us today?



Drake Sunday Part 2 - Call to Action
Mon, July 16, 2012 07:00PM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RRzLUNApJO0

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The biggest success that psy-ops have had over the past few decades is the successful blurring of fact and fiction. This is because so many people spend their time watching fiction on screens that they can no longer tell the difference between what is real and what is Hollywood. Psy-ops were probably tipped off to how successful a strategy this would be when they saw the panicked reaction of the American people to the radio broadcast of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, narrated by Orson Wells, in 1938. And of course, it hasn't been difficult to get people to believe in a super-race of beings that they haven't so much as ever seen a photo of, who will bring their salvation from the heavens when for 2,000 years they had been brainwashed by religion to believe the exact same thing. God and the angels have just been replaced by ETs in this new religion that only requires your total and utter blind faith in the existence of these beings, which you have never seen, for entry into its hallowed portals for communion and absolution. No wonder they think we're stupid.

Sorry, but IMO, this is a silly reaction/rationalization.

I'll stick with the very first words I said after listening to the first broadcast by Drake, (something like) "I am convinced he is convinced." I still believe that ON THAT DAY, Drake would have passed a polygraph. He was not lying - he was duped. Duped by whom? Black-ops psy-ops guys? Way back channel, maybe, but Drake himself was convinced by whomever he was talking to, and more than likely, that meant that whomever he was talking to believed it too.

Have any of you ever been on stage? Any idea how difficult it would have been for Drake to go into character and speak the words he did, deliver the words the way he did, as an actor delivering rehearsed psy-ops lines? That's by far the LEAST likely scenario. Drake making it all up for attention is the second least likely scenario.

You really think an actor delivering psy-ops lines would flip out the way he did over a post made on Avalon? Wasn't that obvious that you were dealing with a single personality at that point?

"No wonder they think we're stupid."

No, we ARE stupid if we think for one minute this was a psy-op plan. Jesus H Christ, can't we recognize a regular, ordinary, flawed, human - just like us - when we meet one?

The most likely scenario (remember Occam's Razor, anyone?) is that there really was a plan, for decades, within some military personnel. Seems likely to me that thousands of military members watched JFK's head go back and to the left and watched the Joint Chiefs and the President lie - and the military guys couldn't do a damn thing about it. It probably festered for years in many military personnel's minds as the sickeningly phony story was repeated over and over.

In fact, I would have a very difficult time believing that no one had a plan to take out the rotten apples from the inside. I personally know an idiot that dedicated nearly three years to The Reset Button, a different plan to take out the rotten apples (well, the whole damn orchard, really), so I know there are people who will step up and create a plan. And, I know what it's like when people would rather watch reality TV, argue over Democrats and Republicans, or hold up signs saying "Jail the Bankers!" rather than even consider supporting or even signing a different plan that actually could work.

I stopped listening to Drake when his train went off the rails (Avalon freakout/second show?), so I don't know how crazy he got - but he probably got pretty crazy. Imagine if you believed in this plan for years and years, expected cooperation and cheers from citizens, and had to live through the plan's fizzle - imagine how heartbroken and angry you would be.

Still think he's a psy-ops guy? A liar?

Drake is a tragic character. A patriot ready to die trying to get the rotten scum out of the US government and the nefarious corporations. It didn't work. The plan did not materialize. Like I said, I suspect he went crazy as the plan fell apart and as he got no help and massive doses of ridicule. Does it appear to you that he has gone a bit (or a lot) crazy? And you're still poking the crazy guy with sticks? What does that say about YOU, dear reader?

So, may I respectfully recommend that people stop kicking and spitting on the guy
laying on the sidewalk. He tried. He failed. Oh, and don't worry, no one else is going to try, so you can put the slings and arrows back in the gun safe.

Dennis

p.s. Avocadess, as the OP, maybe this is a good time to request this thread be closed.

Dennis, this is a magnificent post that does you credit. It made me stop and think for a while.

You're quite right, of course. The real phenomenon is wider and deeper.

What frustrated me was not that one person was standing up and saying something loudly and defiantly that was self-evidently nonsensical (and, equally evidently according to foreverfan above, is continuing).

It was that researchers who are experienced enough to know better supported him and elevated him to 15 minutes of stardom -- and that so many people wasted so much time believing yet another false prophet.

It was like a kind of slow-motion tragi-comedy that could never end well... and Drake, of course, is the fall guy. I agree: I'm sure he was sincere. I also agree with you (I suspect) that what this all really is is a sad reflection on the state of the entire alternative media.

How gullible are we? How smart are we at real research? Real understanding of the actual mechanisms in play?

I sometimes think we were doing rather better ten years ago, when not so many people were awake... but a far greater proportion of those awakening were looking in the right directions.

[Christine]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The biggest success that psy-ops have had over the past few decades is the successful blurring of fact and fiction. This is because so many people spend their time watching fiction on screens that they can no longer tell the difference between what is real and what is Hollywood. Psy-ops were probably tipped off to how successful a strategy this would be when they saw the panicked reaction of the American people to the radio broadcast of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, narrated by Orson Wells, in 1938. And of course, it hasn't been difficult to get people to believe in a super-race of beings that they haven't so much as ever seen a photo of, who will bring their salvation from the heavens when for 2,000 years they had been brainwashed by religion to believe the exact same thing. God and the angels have just been replaced by ETs in this new religion that only requires your total and utter blind faith in the existence of these beings, which you have never seen, for entry into its hallowed portals for communion and absolution. No wonder they think we're stupid.

Sorry, but IMO, this is a silly reaction/rationalization.

I'll stick with the very first words I said after listening to the first broadcast by Drake, (something like) "I am convinced he is convinced." I still believe that ON THAT DAY, Drake would have passed a polygraph. He was not lying - he was duped. Duped by whom? Black-ops psy-ops guys? Way back channel, maybe, but Drake himself was convinced by whomever he was talking to, and more than likely, that meant that whomever he was talking to believed it too.

Have any of you ever been on stage? Any idea how difficult it would have been for Drake to go into character and speak the words he did, deliver the words the way he did, as an actor delivering rehearsed psy-ops lines? That's by far the LEAST likely scenario. Drake making it all up for attention is the second least likely scenario.

You really think an actor delivering psy-ops lines would flip out the way he did over a post made on Avalon? Wasn't that obvious that you were dealing with a single personality at that point?

"No wonder they think we're stupid."

No, we ARE stupid if we think for one minute this was a psy-op plan. Jesus H Christ, can't we recognize a regular, ordinary, flawed, human - just like us - when we meet one?

The most likely scenario (remember Occam's Razor, anyone?) is that there really was a plan, for decades, within some military personnel. Seems likely to me that thousands of military members watched JFK's head go back and to the left and watched the Joint Chiefs and the President lie - and the military guys couldn't do a damn thing about it. It probably festered for years in many military personnel's minds as the sickeningly phony story was repeated over and over.

In fact, I would have a very difficult time believing that no one had a plan to take out the rotten apples from the inside. I personally know an idiot that dedicated nearly three years to The Reset Button, a different plan to take out the rotten apples (well, the whole damn orchard, really), so I know there are people who will step up and create a plan. And, I know what it's like when people would rather watch reality TV, argue over Democrats and Republicans, or hold up signs saying "Jail the Bankers!" rather than even consider supporting or even signing a different plan that actually could work.

I stopped listening to Drake when his train went off the rails (Avalon freakout/second show?), so I don't know how crazy he got - but he probably got pretty crazy. Imagine if you believed in this plan for years and years, expected cooperation and cheers from citizens, and had to live through the plan's fizzle - imagine how heartbroken and angry you would be.

Still think he's a psy-ops guy? A liar?

Drake is a tragic character. A patriot ready to die trying to get the rotten scum out of the US government and the nefarious corporations. It didn't work. The plan did not materialize. Like I said, I suspect he went crazy as the plan fell apart and as he got no help and massive doses of ridicule. Does it appear to you that he has gone a bit (or a lot) crazy? And you're still poking the crazy guy with sticks? What does that say about YOU, dear reader?

So, may I respectfully recommend that people stop kicking and spitting on the guy
laying on the sidewalk. He tried. He failed. Oh, and don't worry, no one else is going to try, so you can put the slings and arrows back in the gun safe.

Dennis

p.s. Avocadess, as the OP, maybe this is a good time to request this thread be closed.

Thank you Dennis,

We can only imagine what Drake went through really. What was difficult to watch was the huge diversion of energy this created by capturing the thoughts, prayers and hopes of many, many dedicated good hearted truth seekers and patriots. In that lies the deception and his responsibility no matter whether we empathize with him or not.

I do believe your point is well taken though and this thread has run its course. There is no victory here on either side - perhaps we all are just a little wiser and if we learned something then perhaps this wasn't a waste after all.

Thanks for your post.

La Tigra - Christine

[gripreaper]

Yes Dennis, it is good to put ourselves in Drakes shoes and show some empathy.

I have tried to put myself in Leroy Schweitzer’s shoes who just died in prison from the Montana freemen incident 30 years ago, or David Koresh and the 83 souls who were burned at the stake in Waco Texas, or Randy weaver’s wife who was shot in the head on her front porch while she held her infant child in her arms, or the daycare full of children who died in Oklahoma City, or William Cooper shot in cold blood on his front porch for speaking out, or Jerry and Joe Kane gunned down in a parking lot for taking the truth out onto the seminar circuit to help people save their homes and become sovereign, or Billy Faust shot and killed because he was part of the Arizona assemblies. I’ve tried to put myself in the shoes of Irwin Schiff and David Myrland who are still in jail and fighting to be free. Or Phil Schneider choked with a rubber hose for telling us the truth about the black ops. For thirty years now, there have been many who have come forward and risked their lives and paid the ultimate price.

There have also been many who have jumped on the bandwagon to sell snake oil while people were at their most vulnerable, selling them sovereign paperwork and get a free house seminars, and these are too numerous to mention. Every week there is a new game in town on how to extricate from the system and how to tap into your estate trust and eliminate your debt and get free from slavery.

Some of these have helped people. Jesse and the guys at “what lies in your debt” have been kicking it and there are many people who help each other in their blogs and message boards and on talkshoe. For thirty years guys like Howard Griswold, Gus Blackstone, Carl Miller, Winston Shrout, Jean Keating and others have spoken the truth and taught people how to win in court and how to stand up for their rights.

Yet, the starkest example of how the system has failed is with the farm claims, which took 30 years and went all the way to the United States Supreme Court, got a favorable ruling, were awarded damages, and yet, these poor farmers have never collected or received just compensation, not a single dime or any restoration of their property.

So, what’s my point? Some of us are tired and are leery of charlatans. If you go back to my first comments in this thread you will see I have tried to point out the fallacies in this whole Drake scenario, based on lawful understanding, proper administrative and judicial procedure, and proper protocol. You can’t just incite people and claim that the military is going to back some sovereign paperwork because a private “notice” was sent to a world organization. I tried to explain that these notices and liens were not enforceable. I’ve tried to explain the Constitutional Convention as the only provision available to remove tyranny. I’ve tried to be reasonable. I’ve tried to discourage the notion that people should take up arms and attempt to take down the cabal themselves.

Many times this thread has discussed what can be done, which always boils down to what each of us can do at home and in our communities, decentralizing our needs and our local governments. That’s where it starts. You and I have had discussions about the “bottom up” as well as the “top down” approaches. I was as disappointed as anyone that your Reset Button got so little play. Yet there are discussions all over this forum about what can be done, the least of which is this thread.

Did I go off track occasionally? Sure I did, I’m human. I’m sick and tired of people being led astray. I also am tired of trying to reinvent the wheel and go back to some assumed time in the past where we allegedly had freedom and sovereignty. We haven’t. We need a NEW paradigm based on abundance, not scarcity. We need an awake and aware electorate who gives a sh!t about the future, who even recognizes that there is a problem. So in that regard, Drake got many people thinking and riled up.

Do I have hope and do I believe in humanity? Yes, I still do. This is all much bigger than us. Drake is just one voice crying in the wilderness. Some of us heard the good points he made, while we recognized the points he was off base on. That does not negate the intention of the man any more that it does those listed in the first paragraph of this post. Let us take this moment to honor those who have gone before us, and be diligent and do the things we can in our own backyards. We stand on their shoulders, so that they did not die in vain. We must keep the discourse alive, keep it as civil as possible, and keep talking to everyone we meet. It is up to us to awaken our neighbors. I just don’t think we are there yet as a collective, but I do see changes. The changes do not happen as fast as I would like, but it’s not my timing to predict when things will finally break loose, but break they will.

One day they will.

[NancyV]

I still think Drake was lying about many things. He was too certain that 90% of the military supported the mass arrests, that the ET's were helping, that millions of militia were ready to act on his command. He made too many statements about different things that were going to happen that he couldn't have possibly known were true, because so far they've all been wrong. I think he's a LIAR.

That doesn't mean I don't have empathy for him just as I do for anyone who might be a fool OR a liar. Although I have empathy for his stupidity and lies that doesn't mean I will pretend that he was just a fool and a patsy and feel sorry for him. He is entirely responsible for his own mistakes and for leading many people to believe his crap. If he wasn't SURE about his so called Intel then he is even more to blame for leading everyone on with no actual knowledge of what he was saying.

It isn't over yet. He's STILL lying and the game is still afoot. Hopefully it will die with a whimper and not with his arrest for promoting a violent uprising.

[gripreaper]

OK, everybody out of the pool.

http://www.clipaday.com/videos/jacuz...-will-ferrell-

[StarDust]

Posted by gripreaper (here)

Posted by StarDust (here)
Conversely, I have more faith in what the ET/EDs may do than the American people to enact a constitutional convention.

Faith? So the ET'/ED's are the new religion based on faith?

Who said anything about religion? I am not and never have been religious and thus your frame of reference is foreign to me. Faith is also synonymous for belief, trust, confidence and credence among others.

Posted by StarDust (here)
There is simply very little will power here in the US amongst the vast populace that are unaware and unawake. The cabal has done an outstanding job here to ensure that the people here are docile by becoming seemingly content with their daily lives and captivated by reality tv shows and sporting events; not to mention buying the political system and media markets.

I see you consider the populace fully docile then. You saying that these people wont wake up, or wont at some point get backed into a corner far enough to do something?

I am only speaking within the context of the present day and only to the extent that the majority (but not all) of the populace appears docile. From my perspective it is a fact that the vibratory frequency of the planet is rising via energies that are being directed from the galactic center; this will have an effect upon the entire populace in time as Gaia undergoes a massive expansion of consciousness.

http://consciouslifenews.com/scienti...ansion/114819/

With that said, I cannot speak for what an individual may or may not do in the near future. However, this process will only permit life resonating at certain frequencies or higher to exist within Gaia's realm; so in this sense, the lower vibratory frequencies will no longer be permitted to exist here. This is a simple matter of physics and is not something that is optional if a being wishes to exist here in the not so distant future.

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With that said, I still have great faith that massive change is coming- regardless of whether or not Drake and others like him that are in the public eye are directly involved.

So massive change will occur as a result of how the energies of the universe are resonating as above, so below, and it's a manifest destiny without any free will? Or are you saying, that it is the will of the ET/ED's and therefore it is destined by them to steer this "massive change"?

Yes, as I understand it, the vibratory frequency of this entire sector of space (including Gaia) is increasing and is part of the great cosmic 26,000 (approx.) year cycle and is mandated by agreement between Gaia and Source.

The ET/Ds are here to assist as per the request of Gaia/Source. Although it may appear to some that we are meddling in the affairs of terrans, this is simply not so. We were asked to come here to assist. Many of us answered the call to service and thus we are here helping even if the overall goal is not apparent to most.

On thing I find interesting about terrans is their belief that "free will" is some sort of spiritual trump card. Although free will is important to permit Source to experience Source, it is also important to understand that there are much larger forces at work here. As Spock once said, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or one." This understanding should be broadly applied to what is happening to Gaia at this time.

Or is it, the humans screws it up, and the ET's fix it using their social memory complex and their incarnation to help Gaia.

I can only speak for this entity who volunteered to incarnate to assist Gaia. The process of anchoring light energies to Gaia's grid has nothing to do with "humans screw[ing] it up"; or anything along those lines. It's more like a very crafty way of circumventing and dismantling the control grid that the archons by way of the drako & hydra reptilians have had in place for millennia. The end result will be to aid humanity by restoring freedom in ways that have never truly been present.

Imagine if you will a free-for-all "party" that the archons were able to throw here on Gaia for a period of 26,000 years. At the beginning of the party, the archons may have wanted to believe that the party would last forever. After all, they thought they were masters of the universe and even set up a very realistic hologram where they were perceived as gods and the universe was their oyster. Well, the party did actually have an expiration date…a time to pack it in and call it a night. That time is now and the party is over. It may take some time to clean up from all the festivities, but it is happening even if that is not apparent to most.

***Do note that this is my understanding of what is transpiring on a large scale as well as the reasons why some of us are here at this time. Individual experiences and understandings may vary.