Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[Ishtar]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The biggest success that psy-ops have had over the past few decades is the successful blurring of fact and fiction. This is because so many people spend their time watching fiction on screens that they can no longer tell the difference between what is real and what is Hollywood. Psy-ops were probably tipped off to how successful a strategy this would be when they saw the panicked reaction of the American people to the radio broadcast of HG Wells' War of the Worlds, narrated by Orson Wells, in 1938. And of course, it hasn't been difficult to get people to believe in a super-race of beings that they haven't so much as ever seen a photo of, who will bring their salvation from the heavens when for 2,000 years they had been brainwashed by religion to believe the exact same thing. God and the angels have just been replaced by ETs in this new religion that only requires your total and utter blind faith in the existence of these beings, which you have never seen, for entry into its hallowed portals for communion and absolution. No wonder they think we're stupid.

Sorry, but IMO, this is a silly reaction/rationalization.

I'll stick with the very first words I said after listening to the first broadcast by Drake, (something like) "I am convinced he is convinced." I still believe that ON THAT DAY, Drake would have passed a polygraph. He was not lying - he was duped. Duped by whom? Black-ops psy-ops guys? Way back channel, maybe, but Drake himself was convinced by whomever he was talking to, and more than likely, that meant that whomever he was talking to believed it too.

Have any of you ever been on stage? Any idea how difficult it would have been for Drake to go into character and speak the words he did, deliver the words the way he did, as an actor delivering rehearsed psy-ops lines? That's by far the LEAST likely scenario. Drake making it all up for attention is the second least likely scenario.

You really think an actor delivering psy-ops lines would flip out the way he did over a post made on Avalon? Wasn't that obvious that you were dealing with a single personality at that point?

"No wonder they think we're stupid."

No, we ARE stupid if we think for one minute this was a psy-op plan. Jesus H Christ, can't we recognize a regular, ordinary, flawed, human - just like us - when we meet one?

The most likely scenario (remember Occam's Razor, anyone?) is that there really was a plan, for decades, within some military personnel. Seems likely to me that thousands of military members watched JFK's head go back and to the left and watched the Joint Chiefs and the President lie - and the military guys couldn't do a damn thing about it. It probably festered for years in many military personnel's minds as the sickeningly phony story was repeated over and over.

In fact, I would have a very difficult time believing that no one had a plan to take out the rotten apples from the inside. I personally know an idiot that dedicated nearly three years to The Reset Button, a different plan to take out the rotten apples (well, the whole damn orchard, really), so I know there are people who will step up and create a plan. And, I know what it's like when people would rather watch reality TV, argue over Democrats and Republicans, or hold up signs saying "Jail the Bankers!" rather than even consider supporting or even signing a different plan that actually could work.

I stopped listening to Drake when his train went off the rails (Avalon freakout/second show?), so I don't know how crazy he got - but he probably got pretty crazy. Imagine if you believed in this plan for years and years, expected cooperation and cheers from citizens, and had to live through the plan's fizzle - imagine how heartbroken and angry you would be.

Still think he's a psy-ops guy? A liar?

Drake is a tragic character. A patriot ready to die trying to get the rotten scum out of the US government and the nefarious corporations. It didn't work. The plan did not materialize. Like I said, I suspect he went crazy as the plan fell apart and as he got no help and massive doses of ridicule. Does it appear to you that he has gone a bit (or a lot) crazy? And you're still poking the crazy guy with sticks? What does that say about YOU, dear reader?

So, may I respectfully recommend that people stop kicking and spitting on the guy
laying on the sidewalk. He tried. He failed. Oh, and don't worry, no one else is going to try, so you can put the slings and arrows back in the gun safe.

Dennis

p.s. Avocadess, as the OP, maybe this is a good time to request this thread be closed.

Dennis, this is a magnificent post that does you credit. It made me stop and think for a while.

You're quite right, of course. The real phenomenon is wider and deeper.

What frustrated me was not that one person was standing up and saying something loudly and defiantly that was self-evidently nonsensical (and, equally evidently according to foreverfan above, is continuing).

It was that researchers who are experienced enough to know better supported him and elevated him to 15 minutes of stardom -- and that so many people wasted so much time believing yet another false prophet.

It was like a kind of slow-motion tragi-comedy that could never end well... and Drake, of course, is the fall guy. I agree: I'm sure he was sincere. I also agree with you (I suspect) that what this all really is is a sad reflection on the state of the entire alternative media.

How gullible are we? How smart are we at real research? Real understanding of the actual mechanisms in play?

I sometimes think we were doing rather better ten years ago, when not so many people were awake... but a far greater proportion of those awakening were looking in the right directions.

Dennis and Bill

You both wrote good posts, but they were nothing to do with my post which Dennis quoted as if he was replying to it.... but Dennis you didn't respond to my points other than to say that "it was a silly reaction/rationalisation" then you went on to talk about something else, i.e. whether or not Drake was for real to begin with. Neither of you addressed the content of my post which you both quoted.

If you're going to accuse someone who doesn't have unconditional blind faith in the psy-ops channelled version of ETs of being silly and irrational, then please at least put up an argument against it. But if you want to write a post about something else, e.g. Drake's first radio broadcast (which wasn't what I was referring to ~ I was responding to StarDust's and Arunuk's post that professed faith in ETs and that they would come and 'save us') then please take my quoted post out of it.

[Kelly]

FAO Foreverfan, i dont know how to copy people's quotes, so i will reply here:
My little poem was not intended to spit any venom or turd at anyone, that was not my intention, my intention was to say, us, human beings, have always gave away our energy to others, we are easliy manipulated and naive, this is why we are in this situation in the first place, and this is what needs to change.
If we are to listen to every tom, dick or harry, who runs around giving out false information and promises that never come true, instead of listening to our own selves, we are gonna end up very confused and let down.
I have watched a pattern emerge over the years, for every person like this, who promises great things, they amass a following of people, ready to believe, and when the promises fail to deliver, people get let down, till the next person comes along, then they follow them, over and over and over this has happened.
Isnt it time we stopped following others, and started seeing through the lies?
We will never advance as a species, standing with our own power, as long as we follow someone else.

[Unified Serenity]

I was thinking the same thing Nancy. For anyone to say they believe Drake believed this or was completely sincere or would have passed a polygraph the day he came out with his story is thus saying they believe he was actually working with top military brass, 140 plus nations, and coalescing the national militia. Dennis, do you believe Drake was actually having high level meetings with the military, special envoys to other countries, and yet couldn't come up with money to help his friend in an emergency who needed $2500.00 to get out of jail for stealing people's money? Oh, yeh, he neglected to tell us that's what she needed our money for.

When someone can pass a polygraph test who believes something so completely but it's all false, we either call them delusional or a sociopathic / pathological liar. I am sorry for those of you who actually believed this guy, but it's not the first time you have done this, and I don't really know why you do it, but you do it. Now, is the time to not feel salt poured into your wounds as your hopes have been possibly dashed. I do beleive though that the sympathy of many for those who want to be deceived and find out they were is probably wearing thin at this point. There will be another stardust gatherer who wants their 15 minutes of fame. Will you jump on their bandwagon or actually examine and ask pertinent questions of them like, "Where's the proof". Of course they won't have any, they never do. To give you proof would put too many people in danger. Proof would make someone guilty like Brockbrader saying he was a secret Seal. You all still believe that? You can't prove a negative so that means you go on blind faith.

I do believe there is one coming very soon who is the best of liars. Who has maneuvered us and manipulated us with fear and paranoia who will appear to be all things to all people. He will tell such a great tale and promise such great things to heal this world, fix our problems, and he will actually be doing things. He will even proclaim himself to be God, Buddah, Jesus, Krishna, any god you believe in, and he will amaze you. We were warned of him coming and if you all can be deceived by Drake, Brockbrader, Charles etc you had better wake up, because this is the one that you really can't afford to be taken in by. Could this have all been a small test for some of us to see would we be taken in or if were were will we now wake up and realize we wanted to be deceived and so we were?

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

I would put Drake in the category of a false Messiah, and yes, we were warned those would be coming too. Not one of us will be without excuse when we are found whoring around with the evil one.

[foreverfan]

Posted by Kelly (here)
FAO Foreverfan, i dont know how to copy people's quotes, so i will reply here:
My little poem was not intended to spit any venom or turd at anyone, that was not my intention, my intention was to say, us, human beings, have always gave away our energy to others, we are easliy manipulated and naive, this is why we are in this situation in the first place, and this is what needs to change.
If we are to listen to every tom, dick or harry, who runs around giving out false information and promises that never come true, instead of listening to our own selves, we are gonna end up very confused and let down.
I have watched a pattern emerge over the years, for every person like this, who promises great things, they amass a following of people, ready to believe, and when the promises fail to deliver, people get let down, till the next person comes along, then they follow them, over and over and over this has happened.
Isnt it time we stopped following others, and started seeing through the lies?
We will never advance as a species, standing with our own power, as long as we follow someone else.

Hey, I'm not here to judge. I'm only here to observe. This has been a great thread and I'm just saying that is shouldn't be shut down.

[9eagle9]

It has to be shut down, that's how the program goes. Like the government you have to hide the whatever idiotic and potentially destructive and/or misleading evidence there is to protect the guilty and the easily misled.

It also serves to keep perpetrating this sort of thing so when the next carbon copy guru comes along everyone will have forgotten the new boss, looks pretty much like the old boss.

[Unified Serenity]

I think we need a sticky thread titled something like:

"And today's guru is...." so when the next one comes along we can put an announcement in it and when they are proven a fraud we can put a summary article in it. There will always be individual threads like the Drake, Charles, Brockbrader thread, but at this time, I think a solid pattern is emerging and a sticky would help us just get them all in one place and maybe, just maybe people will see the pattern or those who want to become the next "GURU" will think twice.

[9eagle9]

How much of threat are you to the powers that be that you would need containment?. None. Because you are already scared you can be kept in the usual fashion that most people are kept in--remote containment. Fear programming suffices to keep most of the population well within controllable parameters--for them.

No one will be forced into FEMA work camp they will walk in under their own volition. No one has to be forced in there. Like this thread demonstrates the sheep jump on the bait under their own volition. Some bait will be dangled to get the sheep on the hook.

People who are the actual threat will know it's bait.

People who knew this Drake drama was more mind candy bait, were treated like a threat by sheep scrambling to get on the band wagon.

My concerns would be not the powers that be, but the sheep who INVITE in this sort of thing. Then I remember they are sheep.....

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
Laugh and joke and ridicule as much as you like on your way to the FEMA camps. Just because Drake was a stooge for the cabal doesn't mean you guys are not going to suffer a wee bit. So Mr Ryan what do you suggest next? All American citizens pack up their belongings and take the next boat to South America and hide? Why not offer a sensible alternative to the plight of the people in USA? I certainly know that I don't know. However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.

Stan

I'm sorry, Stan. I agree with the points you raise. Sometimes when I'm feeling overwhelmed, I get into that comic relief place to diffuse the built up energy.

The FEMA camps are what scare me the most. The idea of being confined or controlled makes me think that I'd rather not be around. It's embarrassing to admit this because I consider myself a gutsy person. I'm a work in progress...

Peace Stan,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Consider it live time research? We want to fool ourselves into thinking we are private and insulated and lesser well intentioned powers are not watching us play in our own ****. Things of this nature just show them that even the ones who have politically woke up are still sound asleep when it comes to awareness of how they operate--which is mostly through the common masses.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Ishtar (here)

Dennis and Bill

You both wrote good posts, but they were nothing to do with my post which Dennis quoted as if he was replying to it.... but Dennis you didn't respond to my points other than to say that "it was a silly reaction/rationalisation" then you went on to talk about something else, i.e. whether or not Drake was for real to begin with. Neither of you addressed the content of my post which you both quoted.

If you're going to accuse someone who doesn't have unconditional blind faith in the psy-ops channelled version of ETs of being silly and irrational, then please at least put up an argument against it. But if you want to write a post about something else, e.g. Drake's first radio broadcast (which wasn't what I was referring to ~ I was responding to StarDust's and Arunuk's post that professed faith in ETs and that they would come and 'save us') then please take my quoted post out of it.

Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
I was thinking the same thing Nancy. For anyone to say they believe Drake believed this or was completely sincere or would have passed a polygraph the day he came out with his story is thus saying they believe he was actually working with top military brass, 140 plus nations, and coalescing the national militia. Dennis, do you believe Drake was actually having high level meetings with the military, special envoys to other countries, and yet couldn't come up with money to help his friend in an emergency who needed $2500.00 to get out of jail for stealing people's money? Oh, yeh, he neglected to tell us that's what she needed our money for.

When someone can pass a polygraph test who believes something so completely but it's all false, we either call them delusional or a sociopathic / pathological liar. I am sorry for those of you who actually believed this guy, but it's not the first time you have done this, and I don't really know why you do it, but you do it. Now, is the time to not feel salt poured into your wounds as your hopes have been possibly dashed. I do beleive though that the sympathy of many for those who want to be deceived and find out they were is probably wearing thin at this point. There will be another stardust gatherer who wants their 15 minutes of fame. Will you jump on their bandwagon or actually examine and ask pertinent questions of them like, "Where's the proof". Of course they won't have any, they never do. To give you proof would put too many people in danger. Proof would make someone guilty like Brockbrader saying he was a secret Seal. You all still believe that? You can't prove a negative so that means you go on blind faith.

I do believe there is one coming very soon who is the best of liars. Who has maneuvered us and manipulated us with fear and paranoia who will appear to be all things to all people. He will tell such a great tale and promise such great things to heal this world, fix our problems, and he will actually be doing things. He will even proclaim himself to be God, Buddah, Jesus, Krishna, any god you believe in, and he will amaze you. We were warned of him coming and if you all can be deceived by Drake, Brockbrader, Charles etc you had better wake up, because this is the one that you really can't afford to be taken in by. Could this have all been a small test for some of us to see would we be taken in or if were were will we now wake up and realize we wanted to be deceived and so we were?

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

I would put Drake in the category of a false Messiah, and yes, we were warned those would be coming too. Not one of us will be without excuse when we are found whoring around with the evil one.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
It has to be shut down, that's how the program goes. Like the government you have to hide the whatever idiotic and potentially destructive and/or misleading evidence there is to protect the guilty and the easily misled.

It also serves to keep perpetrating this sort of thing so when the next carbon copy guru comes along everyone will have forgotten the new boss, looks pretty much like the old boss.

This is the last I'll write about this, because I'm moving on.

Ishtar, without spending a lot of time working backwards through quotes of quotes and spending even more time, your post in the Drake thread about StarDust's post picking an ET help/intervention (which was in the original Drake disclosure and underscored by Wilcock) detail out of Stan's post about Drake realizing that the military is not going to do anything, and a casual mention of his belief of ETs is what set you off... and your post happened to be the trigger to make me say, "enough."

Your post repeated the theme that Drake is part of an organized psy-ops. I certainly did reply to that, and do think it is silly that anyone would believe the Drake saga was a planned psy-ops.

Unified Serenity, as I stated, yes, I think Drake was convinced. I think he has been in the sovereignty movement for a long time, sent sovereignty paperwork off to somewhere he believed was the correct international body to file the paperwork, was in the military, does have military contacts, and did meet with some of them. I think he was handed a bunch of information, which he believed, and was asked to disseminate some of the information - as a spokesperson. I suspect that in the information 'packet' he received gave details like "138 nations are aligned..." that he repeated. When he, as spokesperson, repeated the info, he said, "We..."

(gripreaper knows enough about law to shred the legality of filing sovereignty documents for the US to get out from under USA, Inc., but I think Drake believed there was some old legal precedent that overruled the current law.)

No, I don't think Drake was/is a "false messiah", and that again goes back to intent. He had nothing to gain, personally, and everything to lose, personally, and he has now lost all of it. That should be a signal to stop beating the horse. Again, I'm not listening to him, but suspect that he is becoming more and more unglued. You (and others) can keep blasting away at him, personally, if you have some need to do so. I don't. The plan did not materialize. (I'd guess too few were actually involved, and too few believed it could work and so did not risk everything to try.)

If you're going to use bible passages to make your point, then maybe you had better be very, very careful about making fun of Drake. God (evidently) gets VERY pissed off when people (even children) mock and taunt someone. [2 Kings 2:23-24]

9eagle9, we don't sit and watch documentaries over and over and over again, do we? We take in the info, and move forward. That is not "hiding the evidence", it is moving on. Maybe you're convinced that Drake didn't fall far enough yet and should be chased down and beaten to death with a spoon. I learned what I needed to, and I'm moving on.

Dennis
p.s. I'm seriously done with this thread and won't reply to it again.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Kelly (here)
FAO Foreverfan, i dont know how to copy people's quotes, so i will reply here:
My little poem was not intended to spit any venom or turd at anyone, that was not my intention, my intention was to say, us, human beings, have always gave away our energy to others, we are easliy manipulated and naive, this is why we are in this situation in the first place, and this is what needs to change.
If we are to listen to every tom, dick or harry, who runs around giving out false information and promises that never come true, instead of listening to our own selves, we are gonna end up very confused and let down.
I have watched a pattern emerge over the years, for every person like this, who promises great things, they amass a following of people, ready to believe, and when the promises fail to deliver, people get let down, till the next person comes along, then they follow them, over and over and over this has happened.
Isnt it time we stopped following others, and started seeing through the lies?
We will never advance as a species, standing with our own power, as long as we follow someone else.

Fair enough, Kelly. I should say my little poem wasn't directed at you. I don't know if you've been following this thread for long, but those who have can probably tell where I was coming from. Even so, in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have included the last two lines. I got carried away. Sorry if you thought it was about you. I either should have stated that up front or not have quoted you at all.

[Kelly]

No worries, it was my confusion, im still getting used to how the forum works and whatnot.
Im not here to argue with anyone, spent enough lifetimes doing that, peace

[9eagle9]

Dennis I doubt I have ever posted a documentary on Avalon, although I periodically watch them, I seldom quote other people, I don't have a guru, I appreciate certain researchers and sovereignty advocates but I'm not banging their drum, and flipping out occult dates for people to obsess about. I've made it pretty plain that everything comes from me.

I can't say the same for you. Who has to post a thread asking when the world financial structure is going to collapse when it has been collapsing in plain sight for years now. Only those who are stuck in this program need a fixed date. When you let go of the need for a system, the systems will come down.

When the reset button is switched on 12-21-2012 and we are all collectively thrust into Wonderland?

People like Drake and their followers neutralize themselves--they lose all authority, all credibility, and basically relegated to those who will have to babysat in any future scenario that we have. I know you'd like to sweep that under the rug but you know ....people who are jettisoning the program aren't doing the ptb's dirty work anymore.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

...

9eagle9, we don't sit and watch documentaries over and over and over again, do we? We take in the info, and move forward. That is not "hiding the evidence", it is moving on. Maybe you're convinced that Drake didn't fall far enough yet and should be chased down and beaten to death with a spoon. I learned what I needed to, and I'm moving on.

Dennis
p.s. I'm seriously done with this thread and won't reply to it again.

[gripreaper]

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[SilentFeathers]

Posted by NancyV (here)
I still think Drake was lying about many things. He was too certain that 90% of the military supported the mass arrests, that the ET's were helping, that millions of militia were ready to act on his command. He made too many statements about different things that were going to happen that he couldn't have possibly known were true, because so far they've all been wrong. I think he's a LIAR.

That doesn't mean I don't have empathy for him just as I do for anyone who might be a fool OR a liar. Although I have empathy for his stupidity and lies that doesn't mean I will pretend that he was just a fool and a patsy and feel sorry for him. He is entirely responsible for his own mistakes and for leading many people to believe his crap. If he wasn't SURE about his so called Intel then he is even more to blame for leading everyone on with no actual knowledge of what he was saying.

It isn't over yet. He's STILL lying and the game is still afoot. Hopefully it will die with a whimper and not with his arrest for promoting a violent uprising.

With the patriot act, the NDAA and several other "passed legislation", I am actually surprised Drake (and some others) haven't been arrested yet for "conspiracy to commit or actually committing acts of terrorism". There's probably a longer list of "alleged crimes" the gestapo have on him (and some others) that we are not aware of.....I am VERY surprised they have not shut him down yet.

This makes me suspicious and I can only speculate to why they haven't shut him down and that would be that they are using him to flag others and out potential militias that are crazy enough to believe in this outrageous story of nano dust and a soul sucking Solar Disk. Not to mention playing God with the US military as he started out doing.

We haven't seen the last of this I'm sure, I have a pretty good idea to who will really be arrested when the "mass arrests" do take place......and it isn't the people Drake and others claim that will be arrested, he mentions the mirror, well, he needs to take a deep look in to it himself.....

As I mentioned from the beginning of this whole ordeal, it's pretty ignorant to think that the cabal is actually going to arrest themselves! it's even more crazy to think a bunch of beer drinking militia people that believe in nano dust particals paralyzing crooks and all weapons not able to fire are going to arrest the cabal and save the world to with the help of a bunch of evil ET's who will blast the crooks in to the sun and have the sun devour their souls! Sheesh!l dah!

It would be like me coming on this forum and telling you all that Bikini Bottom really does exist and Sponge Bob is a real person, that I have been there and met him (and Patrick) and that in order to save the world we must all believe what I am saying and move there immediately before the bad ET's capture us and kill us.....

Sheesh.....now Cobra...and Lady Dragon? who's next and how many times does a vampire have to bite someone before they realize it's not a mosquito??????

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
With the patriot act, the NDAA and several other "passed legislation", I am actually surprised Drake (and some others) haven't been arrested yet for "conspiracy to commit or actually committing acts of terrorism". There's probably a longer list of "alleged crimes" the gestapo have on him (and some others) that we are not aware of.....I am VERY surprised they have not shut him down yet.

Maybe he's got some friends in high places looking out for him. I think he might have mentioned something like that before.

[Christine]

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
With the patriot act, the NDAA and several other "passed legislation", I am actually surprised Drake (and some others) haven't been arrested yet for "conspiracy to commit or actually committing acts of terrorism". There's probably a longer list of "alleged crimes" the gestapo have on him (and some others) that we are not aware of.....I am VERY surprised they have not shut him down yet.

Maybe he's got some friends in high places looking out for him. I think he might have mentioned something like that before.

More likely he was useful to TPTB... and obviously wasn't effective other than in diverting people's energy and attention.

[RunningDeer]

Great points, great reminders, 9eagle9. Thank you.

As part of my process, it’s important for me to acknowledge the fear so I can get on with getting on. If push comes to shove, they’ll have to kill me where I stand before I go. (metaphor there) In reality, until I learn the art of invisibility, I won’t be there when they arrive. (Still working out the kinks of invisibility.) But I also know if their orders are to snatch and grab, not shoot, then four strong guys could grab legs and arms and toss me into the cage.

Note to self: set aside more time for invisible mastery.

The bad guys would be wise to put me in a FEMA camp because I’m going to do all that I can to assist us All. I can’t tell you what that is because I don’t know. But I do know that it’ll show itself because it has always been the way. I also know...I’ll live in the woods and eat leaves and mosquitos before I succumb to them creating a long term life plan for me.

Note to self: set aside more time for solutions for winter living in the woods.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
How much of threat are you to the powers that be that you would need containment?. None. Because you are already scared you can be kept in the usual fashion that most people are kept in--remote containment. Fear programming suffices to keep most of the population well within controllable parameters--for them.

No one will be forced into FEMA work camp they will walk in under their own volition. No one has to be forced in there. Like this thread demonstrates the sheep jump on the bait under their own volition. Some bait will be dangled to get the sheep on the hook.

People who are the actual threat will know it's bait.

People who knew this Drake drama was more mind candy bait, were treated like a threat by sheep scrambling to get on the band wagon.

My concerns would be not the powers that be, but the sheep who INVITE in this sort of thing. Then I remember they are sheep.....

Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
Laugh and joke and ridicule as much as you like on your way to the FEMA camps. Just because Drake was a stooge for the cabal doesn't mean you guys are not going to suffer a wee bit. So Mr Ryan what do you suggest next? All American citizens pack up their belongings and take the next boat to South America and hide? Why not offer a sensible alternative to the plight of the people in USA? I certainly know that I don't know. However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.

Stan

I'm sorry, Stan. I agree with the points you raise. Sometimes when I'm feeling overwhelmed, I get into that comic relief place to diffuse the built up energy.

The FEMA camps are what scare me the most. The idea of being confined or controlled makes me think that I'd rather not be around. It's embarrassing to admit this because I consider myself a gutsy person. I'm a work in progress...

Peace Stan,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

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Consider it live time research? We want to fool ourselves into thinking we are private and insulated and lesser well intentioned powers are not watching us play in our own ****. Things of this nature just show them that even the ones who have politically woke up are still sound asleep when it comes to awareness of how they operate--which is mostly through the common masses.

[Maunagarjana]

Posted by Christine (here)

Posted by Maunagarjana (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
With the patriot act, the NDAA and several other "passed legislation", I am actually surprised Drake (and some others) haven't been arrested yet for "conspiracy to commit or actually committing acts of terrorism". There's probably a longer list of "alleged crimes" the gestapo have on him (and some others) that we are not aware of.....I am VERY surprised they have not shut him down yet.

Maybe he's got some friends in high places looking out for him. I think he might have mentioned something like that before.

More likely he was useful to TPTB... and obviously wasn't effective other than in diverting people's energy and attention.

If you pay attention to Drake you cannot be engaged with other topics and activities at the same time. It's simply impossible. He's like this black hole that no attention span can escape from.

[aranuk]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by aranuk (here)
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However I am open to sensible suggestions myself.


Stan

Thank you Stan for sharing your step of great improvement.

The caveat is that these suggestions may be coming from another professional hypnotist...

With all respect in your direction Sir, I did NOT share ANY step for improvement at all. I made it very clear that I did NOT know but I am willing to listen to ANY sort of solution. Please don't be so sarcastic and try to ridicule me.


Stan

Apologies good sir, I may have misunderstood your usage of the word "sensible" and took it as meaning: 6 having or showing good sense or sound judgment; intelligent, reasonnable, wise (Random House, college Ed.)

Since you have been following this thread, I have open my (not so) big mouthy keyboard to advocate the only two things that can constitutionally be done:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
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Cool data 000!

That's actually the only way the so-called "Federal Reserve" can be taken out since Congress has been rendered useless:

According to Section 4, part 2 of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913, it says of each of the 12 privately owned Federal Reserve Banks:

“To have succession for a period of twenty years from its organization unless it is sooner dissolved by an Act of Congress, or unless its franchise becomes forfeited by some violation of law.“

Since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, their 20-year charter must have been extended.

A 20-year charter was also granted to the First and Second Banks of the United States, and both had their charter terminated. Yes, there was a time when privately owned central banks had time-limited charters, and for good reason, due to the havoc they caused.

12 U.S.C. § 341 : US Code – Section 341: General enumeration of powers shows:

“Second. To have succession after February 25, 1927, until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law.“

Again, since the Federal Reserve Board’s site shows that all 12 original Federal Reserve Banks are still in operation, this provision was either changed with some other time limit, or was never changed.

In fact, it was never changed, and, therefore, their charter doesn’t expire in 2012, and there was never a 99-year charter for the Federal Reserve.

From: http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/04/21...xpire-in-2012/

... which Wilcock and Drake jump onto via the liens despite having nothing to do in initiating those.

...and:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by gripreaper (here)
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... it better not be about an Article 5 Convention, although that is the only remedy our forefathers put into the Constitution to remedy this situation. This "posits" an alert and involved electorate though, and that is not what we have. I'm scared sh1tless of the Article 5 Convention with the awareness of the electorate we have now.

Well, it is... but in a more structured way than the way Drake puts it... which might even be an attempt by the latter to derail what the former is doing.

Brooks Agnew knows what he talking about, Drake doesn't as he is being fed infos/disinfos.

There... a few of my centimes.

Your quotes above where you explain about the Federal reserve I can only agree with. That sounds to me very reasable and much worth. I never accused you of anything so no need to be defensive. I was defending myself against your ridicule.

Stan

[Jean-Marie]

My belief is that even though people should know better, when they here that someone or something is going to save us, solve our problems, they want to cling to some hope. It is all a part of human nature. We all have different levels of day to day frustrations that affect our ability to discern the latest whistleblower. I have had moments like that myself in the past the Charles fiasco was enough for me.

I have been following this thread waiting to see that Bill Ryan was not going to eat his hat!

[aranuk]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Oh, Dear. Stan -- relax just a moment and laugh with everyone else. God knows we need it.

Of course serious solutions are needed. We've all just come to realize -- Avocadess included, to her great credit -- that Drake's answer is not the one.

Ok, Bill and Tigra and WCBD I will take your advice. I will try and laugh. Difficult for me though. Drake it seems in retrospect never did have an answer.
But we surely can find one.

Stan