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    Quote Posted by christinedream7 (here)
    Quote Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
    synchronisity of 33

    with all this talk about the elites, banking problems, climate crisis...

    it doesn't surprise me I'm seeing 33 everywhere right now...

    Solar storm redlining for 33+3 hours
    oil is down 33 cents
    change on 3 purchases today was 33 cents...

    maybe it is just me, but these are usually hints of something we are missing...

    Dow closed at 12,777

    Yes i too notice these types of synchronicity, at times (there's a pattern seems to be going on in cycles)...i have been seeing 33 and 777 lately.

    Something we are missing..yes! The defined details to what it relates to are hazey. I have heard a plethora of explanations over time to what number sequences translate to.

    To me it seems tht "it" is connected to the Processes around and within us--- web/matrix, and when this system fluctuates/shifts...
    WE (whoever notices) see the synchronistic patterns about which relates to many things going on underneath the surface....lol thts my feeling about the number patterns in our face.
    well I know it is a dirty word around here, but Charles talked about the 33 controllers planning on leaving in a triangular craft, now mentioned in this thread was a nuclear powered UFO...

    so are the controllers packing up and pulling out...

    what did they really do? what did they control we need to keep covered when they leave...

    something we are missing is right under our noses, but what is it...

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    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
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    Disappointing, but hardly surprising.

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    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
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    (Cross-posting from "Here & Now")





    This incredible photo marks the end of Matador Torero Alvaro Munera's career. He collapsed in remorse mid-fight when he realized he was having to prompt this otherwise gentle beast to fight. He went on to become an avid opponent of bullfights. Torrero Munera is quoted as saying of this moment: "And suddenly, I looked at the bull. He had this innocence that all animals have in their eyes, and he looked at me with this pleading. It was like a cry for justice, deep down inside of me. I describe it as being like a prayer - because if one confesses, it is hoped, that one is forgiven. I felt like the worst **** on earth."
    Oh great, thanks a lot, Bob. Now I feel guilty as hell because I had a boyfriend who was a bullfighter in Mexico City in the 70's and he once "honored" me by giving me the bulls ears right after he finished a bullfight! On top of that, I'm a Taurus. I hope I can overcome the shame of it all before I die.
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    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
    That makes sense, having known a few bullfighters. From what I observed, those who aspire to be bullfighters are supremely infatuated with themselves in a prima donna-esque sort of a way. Having compassion for the feelings of a bull would be way down on the list of things to be conscious about.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
    That makes sense, having known a few bullfighters. From what I observed, those who aspire to be bullfighters are supremely infatuated with themselves in a prima donna-esque sort of a way. Having compassion for the feelings of a bull would be way down on the list of things to be conscious about.
    Hiya Sister, and Fellow Avalonians!

    The story I posted was passed on to me from a friend in Spain via email. I was surprised to see the same story all over google when I did a search, based on Astrid's note that there was something fishy about the whole deal. Apparently, from what I have been able to sort out so far, the fellow was indeed a rising star in that game, but suffered a goring which ended his career, and he has since become an associate of PETA, speaking out against animal cruelty and the bullfighting scene in particular.

    On another level, it's interesting how urban myths get started, and then gain a kind of reality based on consensus investment. The Jesus myth is a good example. From I've been able to determine so far, his story was a composite of several folks' stories, then massaged by Constantine and his crew, but there was never an actual Jesus. Nevertheless, people have invested so much reality in the character that they even meet him in mystical raptures and nde's. Imagination is funny, eh . . .

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    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
    That makes sense, having known a few bullfighters. From what I observed, those who aspire to be bullfighters are supremely infatuated with themselves in a prima donna-esque sort of a way. Having compassion for the feelings of a bull would be way down on the list of things to be conscious about.
    Hiya Sister, and Fellow Avalonians!

    The story I posted was passed on to me from a friend in Spain via email. I was surprised to see the same story all over google when I did a search, based on Astrid's note that there was something fishy about the whole deal. Apparently, from what I have been able to sort out so far, the fellow was indeed a rising star in that game, but suffered a goring which ended his career, and he has since become an associate of PETA, speaking out against animal cruelty and the bullfighting scene in particular.

    On another level, it's interesting how urban myths get started, and then gain a kind of reality based on consensus investment. The Jesus myth is a good example. From I've been able to determine so far, his story was a composite of several folks' stories, then massaged by Constantine and his crew, but there was never an actual Jesus. Nevertheless, people have invested so much reality in the character that they even meet him in mystical raptures and nde's. Imagination is funny, eh . . .
    Yes, which leads to the discussion of the creation of reality by mass consciousness. That 'Lucifer' AND 'God' both stated that they each needed the belief of the people in order to exist/connect. Which leads to the whole 'you are god' bit by the Buddhists, and the component of their training which has them creating a tulpa ...and then dissolving it.

    The tulpa, a manifestation of the reflection of energies by the body's lower layers (duality being) does not want to die. it is invested with cunning of intelligence and a serious will to live, like the body--it's point of origin, but has no moral and ethic sense beyond the immediate in time and self. which exactly fits the Luciferian story.
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    I get visitations from Yeshua. Some of his messages are incredibly prophetic. One, in particular, occurred on Christmas Eve 2010 while in bed, trying to go to sleep. He appeared very concerned. He warned me that something very unpleasant and worrysome was about to occur but that it would bring no lasting damages so I should not be afraid for in the end everything would turn out well.

    And indeed, on January 5 something completely unexpected, shocking and highly disruptive occured. Initially, this incident caused me great trepidation, and although I found myself in a highly surreal state since I couldn't believe what had befallen me, in the end, it turned out to have no lasting damages and once I recovered, I realized that it was a blessing in disguise.

    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    Quote Posted by NancyV (here)
    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    I hate to disappoint, but apparently the bull and matador photo and story is a concoction and has no resemblance to anything but the faked story itself.
    That makes sense, having known a few bullfighters. From what I observed, those who aspire to be bullfighters are supremely infatuated with themselves in a prima donna-esque sort of a way. Having compassion for the feelings of a bull would be way down on the list of things to be conscious about.
    Hiya Sister, and Fellow Avalonians!

    The story I posted was passed on to me from a friend in Spain via email. I was surprised to see the same story all over google when I did a search, based on Astrid's note that there was something fishy about the whole deal. Apparently, from what I have been able to sort out so far, the fellow was indeed a rising star in that game, but suffered a goring which ended his career, and he has since become an associate of PETA, speaking out against animal cruelty and the bullfighting scene in particular.

    On another level, it's interesting how urban myths get started, and then gain a kind of reality based on consensus investment. The Jesus myth is a good example. From I've been able to determine so far, his story was a composite of several folks' stories, then massaged by Constantine and his crew, but there was never an actual Jesus. Nevertheless, people have invested so much reality in the character that they even meet him in mystical raptures and nde's. Imagination is funny, eh . . .
    Yes, which leads to the discussion of the creation of reality by mass consciousness. That 'Lucifer' AND 'God' both stated that they each needed the belief of the people in order to exist/connect. Which leads to the whole 'you are god' bit by the Buddhists, and the component of their training which has them creating a tulpa ...and then dissolving it.

    The tulpa, a manifestation of the reflection of energies by the body's lower layers (duality being) does not want to die. it is invested with cunning of intelligence and a serious will to live, like the body--it's point of origin, but has no moral and ethic sense beyond the immediate in time and self. which exactly fits the Luciferian story.
    Hi Carmody - I wish you would expand more on this. Thanks justoneman

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    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    Your Higher Self will appear in whatever form to which you are most conditioned to respond.


    So as I was moving toward the light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go."

    To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the light. The light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs.

    I asked the light, "What is going on here? Please, light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation."

    I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy. The light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not.

    As the light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our Higher Self matrix. The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a mandala of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in each of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us comes directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source.


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    I get visitations from Yeshua. Some of his messages are incredibly prophetic. One, in particular, occurred on Christmas Eve 2010 while in bed, trying to go to sleep. He appeared very concerned. He warned me that something very unpleasant and worrysome was about to occur but that it would bring no lasting damages so I should not be afraid for in the end everything would turn out well.

    And indeed, on January 5 something completely unexpected, shocking and highly disruptive occured. Initially, this incident caused me great trepidation, and although I found myself in a highly surreal state since I couldn't believe what had befallen me, in the end, it turned out to have no lasting damages and once I recovered, I realized that it was a blessing in disguise.

    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    Here's one plausible answer to that excellent question. (Btw, fascinating topic -- maybe deserving another thread of its own!)

    Clearly, you were assisted. But by whom? As in the climax of the wonderful movie Contact, with Jodie Foster, a higher, benevolent intelligence might quite possibly present itself in whatever form might be most readily acceptable to the person being helped. (In the movie, Ellie (Foster) was met by an advanced alien intelligence who appeared to her in the form of her dead father -- and realized immediately that this was just a comforting factor in what otherwise might have been a bewildering and frightening experience.)

    So -- a Christian might be visited by Jesus; a Muslim, by Muhammad; a Pagan, by a nature spirit; a research scientist, by the spirit of Tesla.

    None of the above is about whether Jesus/Yeshua existed in person two thousand years ago. (I'm sure he did, btw.) It's a response to the conundrum of these kinds of benevolent visitations -- which, if one collects all the reports, are not as uncommon as one might think.

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    I get visitations from Yeshua. Some of his messages are incredibly prophetic. One, in particular, occurred on Christmas Eve 2010 while in bed, trying to go to sleep. He appeared very concerned. He warned me that something very unpleasant and worrysome was about to occur but that it would bring no lasting damages so I should not be afraid for in the end everything would turn out well.

    And indeed, on January 5 something completely unexpected, shocking and highly disruptive occured. Initially, this incident caused me great trepidation, and although I found myself in a highly surreal state since I couldn't believe what had befallen me, in the end, it turned out to have no lasting damages and once I recovered, I realized that it was a blessing in disguise.

    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    In my experience Jesus both does not and never did exist AND also did exist and still exists. I have also seen Jesus but as soon as I looked past the awesome light and love I saw that it was just me in another form, so we both laughed and I went on my way.

    Receiving messages as you do from Yeshua is also your Yeshua-self telling your DOT-self something that you may not hear in your present form unless your other self, Yeshua, told you. Why it's happening at all or in this way can probably never be answered. I've never found an actual reason for all these games in the Creation. It all just IS.
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    I tend to be an almost daily reader of http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm, George Ure's site.

    Interesting info today, beginning with trends in earthquakes....you'll have to go to his site for the charts which for some reason I couldn't cut and paste...

    Quote The Biggest Problem In the World

    May not be financial... I don't claim to be a geologist but there is something going on which is just below the public perception level and it has to do with global cataclysm which may be coming to our earthly future. Not that you'll see this on the news tonight - in fact your grandchildren's grandchildren might not live long enough to see it, but this is THE event which could account for all the "global coastal" language and may be what drives from the on ongoing Niburu speculation. I'll leave that for you to discern...I'll just give you the data to ponder.

    The background: Just about every month I get an email from a reader who is kind enough to hook into the USGS earthquake data online, hit the magic macros he's developed, and give us some clear insight as to trends in earthquakes over time.

    The most "grabby" number is the Magnitude 7.0 (+) chart because people relate to big, scary stuff. Going back to 1973, then, here's what this chart currently looks like:



    Each of those lines vertically is a one year period and you can see, with a simple 5th order polynomial that the data is trending upward in a serious way.

    Now, that's bad, but averaging two big quakes a month is not a life-stopper, unless, of course, you happen to be in a poorly engineered building or something like that. But since we have a longage of humans (the opposite of a shortage, right?) there's a boo-hoo factor, but no one in the MSM gets all worked up about it until a "breaking news" event like the Chilean, Japanese, Banda Aceh, or Haiti quakes, come along.

    Then it's a genuine Big Deal, except that global building standards for quake resistance are still pretty lame and people have short memories. In Chile, for example, a 9,5 earthquake resulted in a heaping side order of dead people, but until the recent Chilean quakes, "free enterprise" has managed to slowly erode the country's stringent quake standards.

    No news there - that's just how things work over time.

    Now the part that should scare the living crap out of people: Look at the data for Magnitude 3.0 quakes:


    You do see what's happening, right? the total number of quakes has been collapsing. Which makes the "Big Worry" what?

    Tectonic plate lockup.

    Now let me drop the second scary view on you. I went back through the major quakes in history since 1900 in the USGS worldwide list and decided to toss them into a 20-year histogram. Bar chart...useful for seeing trends in statistics and quite revealing - the minimum size on these is 8.5:


    Now, if you look at the right hand 20-year bit bucket which is showing 6 - the highest every recorded realize this: We still have 8-years to go in this one.

    So is the CPI important? Oh sure...so is diddling around in markets and all, but what's really scary is this big Terra/Ma Nature stuff that goes on in background and against this perspective all the paper in the world doesn't change even one iota the idea that plate tectonics are looking kind of dicey. Helps put other stuff in perspective, doesn't it?

    If you want to worry about Niburu/Planet X, or whatever, have fun. But the data here could be construed as somewhat worrisome and a fine reason to keep right on "prepping."

    Just some thoughts on time loops....

    He also provides space on his site called the Wujo...the place where stores of odd occurrences are told. Several of the stories, like the one today, bring to mind the idea of time loops....some item here one minute, gone the next and nowhere to be found, and sometime later found in its original place.

    Time loops also bring to mind things like celebrity deaths (ie Ernest Borgnine who recently died...I swear I remember his death occurring over ten years ago) or are they alive? At one time there were a lot of websites and blogs covering this phenomenon.

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    Quote Posted by Daughter of Time (here)
    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    Your Higher Self will appear in whatever form to which you are most conditioned to respond.


    So as I was moving toward the light I said, "Please wait a minute, just hold on a second here. I want to think about this; I would like to talk to you before I go."

    To my surprise, the entire experience halted at that point. You are indeed in control of your near-death experience. You are not on a roller coaster ride. So my request was honored and I had some conversations with the light. The light kept changing into different figures, like Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, mandalas, archetypal images and signs.

    I asked the light, "What is going on here? Please, light, clarify yourself for me. I really want to know the reality of the situation."

    I cannot really say the exact words, because it was sort of telepathy. The light responded. The information transferred to me was that your beliefs shape the kind of feedback you are getting before the light. If you were a Buddhist or Catholic or Fundamentalist, you get a feedback loop of your own stuff. You have a chance to look at it and examine it, but most people do not.

    As the light revealed itself to me, I became aware that what I was really seeing was our Higher Self matrix. The only thing I can tell you is that it turned into a matrix, a mandala of human souls, and what I saw was that what we call our Higher Self in each of us is a matrix. It's also a conduit to the Source; each one of us comes directly, as a direct experience from the Source. We all have a Higher Self, or an oversoul part of our being. It revealed itself to me in its truest energy form. The only way I can really describe it is that the being of the Higher Self is more like a conduit. It did not look like that, but it is a direct connection to the Source that each and every one of us has. We are directly connected to the Source.


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    http://www.near-death.com/experience...rnation04.html
    Everything you say makes perfect sense. I have often read that upon dying whatever you believe in will manifest. But although I was raised Catholic, I turned against the religion when i was a teen ager. There was so much chaos in my life that I became an athiest since I no longer belived in benevolent forces. In my early 20's, after suffering too many traumas, i started to walk a very destructive path. I did so many drugs to escape reality and started mingling with a group that believed in the worship of dark forces. I never became involved in the worship of dark forces but I came very close. But before I sank to the bottom, Yeshua presented himself, quite miffed, and told me to stop immediately because I had much work to do and this was not the path for me. I immediately stopped and cleaned up my act. I know you will say that this was my higher self saving me from destruction. Still... I trust Yeshua and always will.

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    I get visitations from Yeshua. Some of his messages are incredibly prophetic. One, in particular, occurred on Christmas Eve 2010 while in bed, trying to go to sleep. He appeared very concerned. He warned me that something very unpleasant and worrysome was about to occur but that it would bring no lasting damages so I should not be afraid for in the end everything would turn out well.

    And indeed, on January 5 something completely unexpected, shocking and highly disruptive occured. Initially, this incident caused me great trepidation, and although I found myself in a highly surreal state since I couldn't believe what had befallen me, in the end, it turned out to have no lasting damages and once I recovered, I realized that it was a blessing in disguise.

    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    Here's one plausible answer to that excellent question. (Btw, fascinating topic -- maybe deserving another thread of its own!)

    Clearly, you were assisted. But by whom? As in the climax of the wonderful movie Contact, with Jodie Foster, a higher, benevolent intelligence might quite possibly present itself in whatever form might be most readily acceptable to the person being helped. (In the movie, Ellie (Foster) was met by an advanced alien intelligence who appeared to her in the form of her dead father -- and realized immediately that this was just a comforting factor in what otherwise might have been a bewildering and frightening experience.)

    So -- a Christian might be visited by Jesus; a Muslim, by Muhammad; a Pagan, by a nature spirit; a research scientist, by the spirit of Tesla.

    None of the above is about whether Jesus/Yeshua existed in person two thousand years ago. (I'm sure he did, btw.) It's a response to the conundrum of these kinds of benevolent visitations -- which, if one collects all the reports, are not as uncommon as one might think.
    Thank you Bill,

    I do realize this subject does not quite belong in this thread but since someone brought it up, i decided to reply.

    I will not post on this issue in this thread anymore. My apologies for the deviation. I do tend to deviate from time to time.
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    Yes, which leads to the discussion of the creation of reality by mass consciousness. That 'Lucifer' AND 'God' both stated that they each needed the belief of the people in order to exist/connect. Which leads to the whole 'you are god' bit by the Buddhists, and the component of their training which has them creating a tulpa ...and then dissolving it.
    That's an indirect method practiced by some Tibetans. More effective and expedient, imho, would be to inquire, "Who is the one who is creating God and Lucifer?" The result of sincere inquiry in this manner can lead to the insight that God is, because I am, and that all is in fact a projection of mind. By "mind", I do not mean the brain, btw. To come to the direct recognition of this mind is the beginning of true awakening.

    In dreams, we are the source of whatever appears in consciousness, and in that sense, it is all a creation, supported by whatever reality we grant it, based on our own filters and conditioning. The only difference between the dream world and the waking world is that one seems short and the other long. Otherwise, there is no difference. Both are creations.

    Our western sciences have not even scraped the surface when it comes to the power and potential of thought (both individual and collective). When that happens on a broad enough spectrum, evolution will accelerate in a quantum fashion.

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    In my experience Jesus both does not and never did exist AND also did exist and still exists. I have also seen Jesus but as soon as I looked past the awesome light and love I saw that it was just me in another form, so we both laughed and I went on my way.

    Receiving messages as you do from Yeshua is also your Yeshua-self telling your DOT-self something that you may not hear in your present form unless your other self, Yeshua, told you. Why it's happening at all or in this way can probably never be answered. I've never found an actual reason for all these games in the Creation. It all just IS.
    An interesting book I came upon recently was Nanci Danison's latest: BACKWARDS Beliefs: Revealing Eternal Truths Hidden in Religions. During her very detailed nde, she says that while merged with Source, she was shown a "documentary" of the history of creation. Having been raised a Catholic, she was quite shocked to discover, in her review of the time period in which Jesus was reported to have appeared, that there was no such actual person. As she examined the matter more closely, she saw how a composite was gradually created over time by certain parties for various political ends.

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    I get visitations from Yeshua. Some of his messages are incredibly prophetic. One, in particular, occurred on Christmas Eve 2010 while in bed, trying to go to sleep. He appeared very concerned. He warned me that something very unpleasant and worrysome was about to occur but that it would bring no lasting damages so I should not be afraid for in the end everything would turn out well.

    And indeed, on January 5 something completely unexpected, shocking and highly disruptive occured. Initially, this incident caused me great trepidation, and although I found myself in a highly surreal state since I couldn't believe what had befallen me, in the end, it turned out to have no lasting damages and once I recovered, I realized that it was a blessing in disguise.

    For those of you who believe that Jesus never existed and that it's all a concoction or a myth, then how would you explain his prophecy to me?

    I'd appreciate your replies.
    Here's one plausible answer to that excellent question. (Btw, fascinating topic -- maybe deserving another thread of its own!)

    Clearly, you were assisted. But by whom? As in the climax of the wonderful movie Contact, with Jodie Foster, a higher, benevolent intelligence might quite possibly present itself in whatever form might be most readily acceptable to the person being helped. (In the movie, Ellie (Foster) was met by an advanced alien intelligence who appeared to her in the form of her dead father -- and realized immediately that this was just a comforting factor in what otherwise might have been a bewildering and frightening experience.)

    So -- a Christian might be visited by Jesus; a Muslim, by Muhammad; a Pagan, by a nature spirit; a research scientist, by the spirit of Tesla.

    None of the above is about whether Jesus/Yeshua existed in person two thousand years ago. (I'm sure he did, btw.) It's a response to the conundrum of these kinds of benevolent visitations -- which, if one collects all the reports, are not as uncommon as one might think.
    New thread about dreams, visitations from highly evolved beings started here.

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    In my experience Jesus both does not and never did exist AND also did exist and still exists. I have also seen Jesus but as soon as I looked past the awesome light and love I saw that it was just me in another form, so we both laughed and I went on my way.

    Receiving messages as you do from Yeshua is also your Yeshua-self telling your DOT-self something that you may not hear in your present form unless your other self, Yeshua, told you. Why it's happening at all or in this way can probably never be answered. I've never found an actual reason for all these games in the Creation. It all just IS.
    An interesting book I came upon recently was Nanci Danison's latest: BACKWARDS Beliefs: Revealing Eternal Truths Hidden in Religions. During her very detailed nde, she says that while merged with Source, she was shown a "documentary" of the history of creation. Having been raised a Catholic, she was quite shocked to discover, in her review of the time period in which Jesus was reported to have appeared, that there was no such actual person. As she examined the matter more closely, she saw how a composite was gradually created over time by certain parties for various political ends.
    I heard that it was a composite of 3 persons living around the same time, one being spiritual teacher, one being political upheaval inspirer and another one being... i do not know. Anyhow, it would be quite interesting to see the Vatican library about this.

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    I heard that it was a composite of 3 persons living around the same time, one being spiritual teacher, one being political upheaval inspirer and another one being... i do not know. Anyhow, it would be quite interesting to see the Vatican library about this.
    One of the composite characters might have been this fellow Appollonius, "a wandering ascetic/philosopher/wonderworker of a type common to the eastern part of the early empire", who even may have made a trip to India, and to whom many miraculous deeds were attributed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Tyana

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