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    Peace everyone,

    I wanted to make a thread that discusses the prophesies within the bible and share information together from various sources. I have some favorite ones naturally, and as you know, I can get on a fair amount of my own in what I think and believe.

    It's not the purpose of this thread to mock anyone's ideas of what the bible says. I don't want anyone feeling pressured to think in any way whatsoever, but what I do want to do is present information in the proper means of line upon and precept upon precept of what the bible actually says. I imagine discussing some major books within the bible that deal with the end times, and the few that come to mind right off the bat are Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, and Revelation. Revelation and Daniel are almost companion books as they speak of many of the same things in times etc..

    I happen to think we are very far into the seals written of in Revelation, and as the days get closer to the end, things will speed up. Deception with increase, and contrary to what most think, the Anti-Christ also called Spurious Christ is not opposed or opposite Christ but it means, Instead of Christ or Instead of Messiah. He wants us to believe he is Messiah, and he is not coming in killing people or making people miserable in the physical sense. He is going to come in peacefully and prosperously. That is why we are warned severely by Yeshua to not be concerned about wars and pestilence, but when we hear people crying, peace, peace peace, then sudden destruction shall fall upon them! This is one of the reasons I am leary of those who talk about Nesara and all this gold being released to relieve the stress so many feel in the world. The Anti-christ is going to come in peacefully and prosperously. I imagine he will give us free energy, and we (well most) think a new day has dawned and we are truly entering the time of freedom, when in fact if you fall for the trap, you will wish you had never been born.

    This is a very positive study, and its all about today, what's going on, and what's to come. This is probably my favorite bible teacher, and I am posting this to spur on discussion. Let us do so in a spirit of humility, love, and respect for one another. The truth matters little if in sharing it hearts are broken and people lose interest because of their curiosity being hammered as stupidity. I have studied the bible in depth since 1987. I studied in the original languages, I've gone to more seminars, bible studies, churches, and shared with souls of many faiths all seeking divine wisdom. Despite my background, I am still daily learning new things, and until I die or am renewed into a new body I imagine I will continue to learn. Please respect my wishes in this regard that all discussion remain peaceable and open and if we reach an impasse of thought we shall agree to disagree in a spirit of love for one another.


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    I think its fasinating that John was exiled to the isle of patmos to be alone, and was shown everything with no one to tell. The big earthquake and the sun goes dark is the trigger for the whole shoobang to go up in smoke. I agree with you about the seals, the promise of peace , then war and killing, we are into the seals definitely.
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    You wanna know whats gonna "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will

    come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous" how this will happen

    is up for speculation. I think it is pointless to speculate whats gonna happen since

    no one really knows everyone just thinks they do. If you notice the only thing every

    ones agrees on is that statement will come true in one form or another that good

    and evil will be separated. service to others vs service to self.
    knowledge is key to wisdom as is in keeping an open mind is essential for opening new doors

    you once kept closed .

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    Thanks White wizard. We are exhorted to study and rightly divide the word of truth to show yourself approved a workman who need not be ashamed in the day of the Lord. Now, it is my desire to examine what we are told in the bible as to this time period. Many are confused about the 42 months, the Mark of the Beast, the deadly wound healed, and the signs, seals, and trumpets. I think it is easy to separate the events if you keep the subject in it's correct place in the various passages. Strange words are used. Who are the locust army? Interestingly, the same word for Locust is the same word for Arab. There are 4 stages to the locust and it's a double meaning word.

    So, while you appear to not value the world, please allow those of us who do to discuss this. I am no avalon to share. Many study in depth other topics, this happens to be one I have studied in depth. With this in mind, here is part two to the above video. I'd like to discuss what is shared within these two videos for now. If you wish to do so, I invite you to join in as well.

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    hi Unified Serenity,
    where to begin. there are so-many different waves to attack this subject with, each perhaps having a different and contrary emotion (most likely different accumulation times).

    I know that the one thing I hate is when people see something as inevitable; the thought intersperses this, as from those who preach success consciousness [and who has not had to lay hold of this in some manner personally] ... does the 'ulterred worldview, then not bring forth the event?, its consciousness on a mass level, and indeed, even if the belief is not some magical quantity which can bring forth the believed in, yet still it remains a manipulatable quantity, that say a world government can use.

    Daniel is quite interesting, have you ever delved into the apocraphal book of Esdras. Some of the images from that book are as such: Esdras comes across a women crying and perhaps pregnant, he tries to comfort her, and bam, she bursts forth into the 'new jerusalem'. it comes to some discussions of Jesus that would mirror the opening chapters of Revelations descriptions of him (that is One with a Sword for a Tongue), in this case, after the evil armies of earth are gathered against him, he destroys them with his breath (it could be interpreted as the difference bt two systems, one so superior that it makes the previous as nothing).

    ---oh Un.Se
    the many headed dragon from Revelations, ..some have interpreted this to be the European Union, each head counting as a country, but the EU has never precisely been 9 countries,
    but isn't the conglomeration inevitable,.... i mean, one is sitting on a continent which is almost culturally similar but with many languages,....so why not (it would have been inevitable, so why be scared of it in the first place)
    i know too, that there are Quaran prophecies, that can be seen as America being the beast.

    don't these prophecies do something strange to us [and our interaction].
    especially to say the world view of christians,... especially when they see a temporal means to the accomplishment of a prophecy,
    ..like i've heard it said by christians returning from the holy land with some ardour : "oh, after Isreal starts the war, the will blast the current moslem temple of the rock and then they have all the materials to put up solomans temple is say a week.......but then we don't have to worry, cause then the prophecies say J will return soon"

    and the apparent mark of the beast, the economic system chips being planted on the right arm or forehead, and the medical knowledge only recently from ourselves that implanted chips would only stay steady at those points without moving around due to the 'lymph system [circulation]' {ls -me thinks}

    But I like that you are putting the emphasis on the after,
    after the system is inplace, by apparent 'good men', then the system will really be open to ludicrous abuse (..like the scenario presented by movies such as equilibrium)
    ...

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    Hey Deridan,

    I have read the apocryphal books, but have not put in the study time I probably should have. I find them interesting and its worth delving into them again, thanks for bringing it up. I don't think man can make all the cards fall into place regarding the end times prophecies though some could certainly try. I look at God as outside of space and time so everything has already happened, and thus whether it's done by some action of one group or another, it comes to pass. The real question is what is the outcome, and I am not outside of space and time and must go upon my faith and understanding in my heart.

    I do not believe in the chips being the mark of the beast. Most will serve and love the spurious Messiah thinking he is Christ. They will not understand the zadok's refusal of him, but there will be a miraculous sign when these special ones chosen from before the foundations of this earth age are delivered up as Joel prophesied that they would speak with that cloven tongue that all men would hear them in their native dialects at the same time. So, what does that mean for the millions of Christians who will be fooled due to lack of understanding and thus receive the mark of the beast? The mark is upon their forehead and right hand. The brain is in the forehead and it means their minds are deluded and love the false Messiah and because of that they help the False one thus their right hand which is symbolic of your working or clean hand will be working for him. That is the Mark of the Beast. It's a spiritual condition leading one to believe in and work for and support the Anti-christ. They will be ashamed of their mistake when the truth is revealed, and though changed into a new body, ascended to some degree will still have a mortal soul, and be subject to the final testing when Lucifer is loosed one final time from the pit. We can go through those scriptures if you want.

    I posted the two videos that I posted because I found it interesting regarding the fifth seal which we are apparently in at this time. The locust army is a double meaning word for locust as Dr. Murray points out the same word for locust is the same word for Arab. The Arab nations are rising up, and as there are 4 stages to the locusts life, in the fifth seal we see the swarming of the locusts / arabs beginning and just look at what is happening around the World. I think we could see some very interesting events take place soon. It might be good to pick a book and go through that as a prophecy of end times discussion. We are seeing many odd things these days, and how they play into the current events along with prophecy could be very interesting. We are told that as in the days of Noah so shall it be in the last days.

    We had angelic visitors then. They left their first habitation and took wives and we had the giants. Could that be "aliens"? Is that why we see an uptick in UFO and "angelic" visitations / channeling? They are said to be beautiful and very smart. I am beginning to wonder if the rumors about some big event after the summer Olympics has anything to do with this based on some odd things about London and the Alexandra palace.

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    US - You are clearly very well versed in the topic, but please don't fall in to the trap of viewing events solely through the lenses of a white American, as it seems you're doing with the above post, in which you imply "arabs" are the baddies.

    As a non-christian, my view of "christ" is that it symbolises a level of consciousness, NOT a man. Yeshua and others may have attained this level, and being eternal, it (christ) is still alive and well in whatever dimension it could be thought of to exist (sorry, having difficulty phrasing that !) So the anti-christ, in my view, is also not a person, but a theme, or a system, which blocks us from attaining christ consciousness. I agree with what you say US, that the anti-christ is a deceiver, preaching a message of love and peace, and in my view, this suits the NWO with its' agenda of taking our freedom away, all in the name of peace and security.

    So, back to my first point, until recently, I also used to view this through my own particular brand of prejudice, thinking that the anti-christ was simply "corporate america", but I've come to realize that's far too narrow a point of view to take. The nature of the beast is FAR from simple ! Christedness is within the grasp of everyone, regardless of race or religion. Those who seek to divide us and beieve ina an "enemy" are the ones we need to be wary of.

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    Hi Mariposafe,

    I appreciate your exhortation. Please understand I do not have a hatred of Arabs or Muslims. I lived in the middle east for a number of years, and know first hand how beautiful the people there are. I am a student of the bible, and there are facts about enmity between Ishmael's children and Isaac's children due to the mishap of Sarah not trusting God and encouraging Abraham to take her maidservent to wife and have a son via her. This child lived I think 14 years with Abraham and when Sarah finally had Isaac she became very concerned over what she felt were issues that would arise and Abraham sent Ishmael and his mother packing. They of course became a great nation we now today know as the Arabs. The Hebrew word though apparently is linked to both locusts and arabs. I am still doing some study on that aspect.

    I do not see things from the narrow view of America, though I guess my words might indicate otherwise in some of my posts. I post from what I see happening here as well as around the world. We know Russia and China are prophesied to rise up and be used in the latter days. The prophesies of Daniel are pretty interesting in this issue. Then we also have the anecdotal stories of the visions of Washington who saw America as a huge country with two coasts and many great cities burning when fire rained down from enemies off the coasts. I don't take his vision as gospel, but I can see where wars and disasters encourage people to want to grasp onto a new way and a new system which the ptb are only too happy to provide. It may be man manipulating events which are prophetic, but hasn't man always done just that? I had a vision of the Berlin wall coming down long before Reagan demanded that it come down. Prophetically, Germany is not a divided country in the last days. It made perfect sense to me so when it did come down, I was not the least bit shocked.

    Timelines are always tricky things. I look for specific events to take place in my benchmarks to know what seal, vial or trumpet we are currently in, and things are heating up in my book.

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    I have a curious one...

    at the end of Daniel (Rowdy Prophet always getting in trouble, would have been part of Avalon if he was around today...)

    he left numbers at the end of his book... a day in heaven is a year on earth...

    the object that causes desecration...

    1335 years after it was first worshiped, one of the Holiest Qu'ran in Iran caught fire when a veil separating men and women caught fire and dropped on it...

    the year it happened I was 45, born 1290 years after it was first worshiped...

    through Divine Destiny, I'm King David of the heart of the middle east...

    it's a very long story, but still amazing as I'm watching things unfold from a book written thousands of years ago...

    I've delivered messages, followed 3 days later by disasters of biblical proportions, but it wasn't to convince anyone but me of how real all this is...
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    Thanks US.

    Though not now a christian, I find this topic fascinating, it's a shame that more people don't wish to partake in the discussion, but there you go.

    From my brief time (during my teens) of studying with the Jehovah's witnesses, I vaguely remember they calculated what they believed to be armageddon's date (1975 - oops !!) from some passage in Daniel (I think) which used the term "times, times and a time" (once again, I think). Are you familiar with this passage and what it refers to ?

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    I've mentioned before, in another thread, that there is an outstanding book recently published called The Harbinger. It is written as a novel with someone relating events that have happened to him, but it is ultimately a book of facts that can be confirmed. It's a prophetic study of ancient Israel (around 800 B.C.) and modern day America and how they are connected by similar events. It outlines, all with facts, how America on 9/11 began it's descent from a "God-protected" and blessed nation (Just like ancient Isreal was) to a nation that has lost its way and on it's descent.

    The book has become a best seller because of the incredible detail, investigation of facts and summary of what may happen to America. The author, Jonathan Cahn, is a Messianic Jew, and rabbi, and a very gifted speaker. Small details of 9/11, even down to such minutiae as the Sycamore tree that did not get destroyed in the attack relates back to ancient history of Israel. The prophesy comes from Isaiah and the words spoken in ancient Israel when they were first attacked by the Assyrians were repeated by President Bush and President Obama about the 9/11 attack. If anyone has interest in Biblical prophesy, this is a fantastic book to read.

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    Thanks US.

    Though not now a christian, I find this topic fascinating, it's a shame that more people don't wish to partake in the discussion, but there you go.

    From my brief time (during my teens) of studying with the Jehovah's witnesses, I vaguely remember they calculated what they believed to be armageddon's date (1975 - oops !!) from some passage in Daniel (I think) which used the term "times, times and a time" (once again, I think). Are you familiar with this passage and what it refers to ?
    I am very familiar with the times, time and half time portion of prophesy. Most people think the tribulation (there are two tribulations btw) of Anti-Christ is 7 years, but that is not the case at all. It's cut in half at one point and then upon deeper study it's down to months. It's also to be very careful to note when the word says days vs. months. The solar calendar is longer than the lunar calendar. The lunar calendar relates to Anti-Christ and the Solar Calendar relates to the zadok and God's actions. The Zadok get a bit more time than the anti-Christ.

    There are some really good studies online, but maybe we should just do line upon line here ourselves. It's something I taught in the past. I just don't want to bore people with details if they are not interested. I may just look for a suitable study which does such and let you all do some of your own digging. Heck one really good study is , "Who are the zadok?"

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    Here is a really great study regarding the Mark of the Beast the events that will happen. Again, I love this teacher though I am not always in agreement. He is though excellent and has the gift of teaching. I wish this were video and not audio only because it helps to have the scriptures on screen as he talks. That being said, you can certainly and should get out your own bible and take notes and verify that it's kept in context. I have never noticed pastor Murray not keeping something in context.


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    I have some old cassettes from Shepherds Chapel, and the Strongs Concordance & companion Bible too. I like his style of teaching and learned much from him & his son in beginning of my awakening .

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    He also has some really good "documentary" style stuff dealing with ancient Hebrews and Celts in America. The Batcreek stone is a much contested one. It's really interesting though hotly debated.

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    I found this site by coincidence while looking for truth about the bible and actual historical facts about how we as a civilization came to this most critical point in time:---------:One-Evil.Org is the first and only site to systematically chronicle the history of evil, the connection between various bloodlines of evil, the nature and practice of evil ritual and associated influences throughout the social history of human civilization.
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    Here is info about all 72 demons talked about in" the goetia"---http://one-evil.org/entities_demons_72_jewish/demons_72.htm

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    So, what will happen in the end of days? I have written a new blog post, and thought i would post some of it here. It covers a wide area of end times prophecy and passages where Jesus told his disciples what would come as well as new age teaching currently in vogue and how they are the exact things Jesus warned of:

    I came across this video, and it discusses a strange red rain that recently fell in India. It fell in 2001, 2006, and now in 2012. It is said to be caused by some strange spores. All I know is we have had millions of fish die off, birds falling out of the sky, massive pestilence of rats, locusts, frogs, and now red rain. I would say we are seeing signs, rumors of wars, increase in disasters, and people desire change. The elites are quite happy to provide a change for us of course.


    Fear not for we were told all these things would happen. That it’s prophesied to happen. God is outside of space and time, and frankly it’s already happened in God’s view of events, and God just sent prophets who wrote it all down for us. It’s up to us to believe it or not. Of course man is manipulating prophecy, God has already seen it, we did it and are doing it, God saw it, and that’s why God knows what we were going to do. It’s not as mystical as people seem to want to make it out to be. We have free will, God is quite aware of our choices, and warned us to not be deceived. He also told us that we preferred lies and teachers who told us things we liked to hear so He gave us over to strong delusion that we would believe the lie.


    Those who believe they will be raptured out, beware of the false teachers. God in fact gave a stern remark regarding his anger at those false teachers who teach people to fly to save their souls! See, he knows everything. I bet most of you who believe in the pre-trib rapture doctrine never heard that one before.
    Eze 13:18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?
    Eze 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
    Eze 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

    In 1830, Mary McDonald had a vision which she said was evil, felt evil, but it was about the flying away to meet Jesus and escape the tribulation of the Anti-Christ. Two ministers heard her vision, and went around teaching the rapture doctrine. Picture fluffy pillows sewn into your shirt armpits. Your arms stick out like a little bird ready to fly off. Jesus warned us to not be fooled. Jesus demanded of his Disciples to learn the parable of the fig tree. It was not some suggestion. It was a command to LEARN the parable of the fig tree. That when the fig tree first sprouts its tender shoots that was the generation where all these end days prophecies would take place! You must remember, the disciples were very concerned about the warnings of the end days. They went to him secretly in the night and asked him when all these things would happen.
    Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
    He continued teaching them and said:
    Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
    Beloved brothers and sisters who love God, let no man deceive you. This is talking about false teachers. Not someone coming and saying, “I am Jesus”. They come and say, “I am a teacher of God, and you don’t need to be concerned with the tribulation because Jesus is going to fly you out. Why, you won’t be here.” It’s a false teaching. No where does it say Jesus comes twice. He comes at the LAST trump. When does Lucifer come? He comes at the sixth trump, the sixth vial, and the sixth seal, or 666. Jesus tells us in this passage exactly what is going to happen.
    Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
    Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
    Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
    I think it’s safe to say we have wars and rumors of wars today. The fact is, we have had more wars in the last 100 years than ever before. Just look at the disaster increases in the data charts.
    Natural Disasters from 1900 to 2010



    Pay close attention, the increase began around 1948. It’s right there on the chart! I did not make this stuff up, it’s right there in the disaster data. Wipe the sleep from your eyes, and please examine facts. Don’t trust me, go do a google search “increase of disasters”. Click the images, and you will see chart after chart.
    Jesus said, this was the beginning of the sorrows. He goes on to tell his disciples some more information to be aware of regarding this generation that would be alive in the last days:
    Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
    There are many martyr’s today even. Christians are hunted and killed by those who hate them, but there are also many who believe that when the Anti-Christ is here, they will be delivered up to be killed for keeping their faith. Do not be afraid of that part, because to be delivered up to Death simply means to be delivered up to Satan aka Lucifer aka Son of Perdition aka Apolyon aka Death. Yes, one of Satan’s many names is “Death”. Satan is not coming here to kill your body. He wants your worship and your soul. He comes in peacefully and prosperously.
    Dan 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
    That word peaceably is the Hebrew word in the Strong’s Concordance:
    H7962
    שׁלוה
    shalvâh
    shal-vaw’
    From H7951; security (genuine or false): – abundance, peace (-ably), prosperity, quietness.
    Satan is not coming in as some evil wretched despot. No, he will come in via signs, wonders, flatteries, and telling everyone what they want to hear. He is going to erase all debt, clean up all the corruption, heal the sick, give us free energy. Of course all you have to do is worship him. Let’s continue with what Jesus told his disciples regarding the last days.


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    Those who believe they will be raptured out, beware of the false teachers. God in fact gave a stern remark regarding his anger at those false teachers who teach people to fly to save their souls!

    what... am i not going before the shtf ?


    And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received [his] mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. - Revelation 20:4


    let's hope we go ; )

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Those who believe they will be raptured out, beware of the false teachers. God in fact gave a stern remark regarding his anger at those false teachers who teach people to fly to save their souls!

    what... am i not going before the shtf ?


    And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received [his] mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. - Revelation 20:4


    let's hope we go ; )
    You know, I wouldn't argue with God if he wanted to take me out of the way, but over and over we are warned for that last generation to not be fooled and taken out of season. Many have died horrible deaths for their faith and the word of their testimony. Many are dying now for it as well in countries that it's basically open season on Christians. I do not hold to the fundamentalist view of this evil anti-Christ coming in killing people. Plenty though have and are still martyred by those filled with the spirit of anti-Christ. The real one it is written that he will come in peaceably and prosperously. I have recently amended part of what I think could happen regarding the beast system and false prophet. The beast gets a mortal wound and is healed by the anti-Christ. We are not talking about a physical event but a political events. We have false flags happen all the time which is basically one's own government harming one's own people to manipulate them into accepting some plan that was the goal in the beginning.

    So, now imagine that the AC is determined to rule the world. He has consolidated power across the planet by working through various leaders and groups. They of course don't give a damn about you or me, our health or anything else. All they care about is controlling the world. They nearly have us exactly where they want us, and all they need to do is get us to dump our "outdated" system and follow into what they want which is of course a disarmed populace who can't fight back. They want to control the drugs they put into us, vaccines and contraceptives. They want to control where and how we live and what we eat and drink or smoke. Now, somehow, and this is pure conjecture on my part, they get all nations of the earth to sign some treaty, and it happens. There is some heavy handed crap that goes down, and some nation, maybe America, maybe Africa, maybe Iran says, "hell no" and a revolution is sparked but it's all part of Lucifer's plan. He makes sure the people are angry and fight back and thus the deadly wound occurs, and then the real plan is the AC shows up and begins healing the world. He does signs and wonders, brings peace to all the nations, free energy and all the nations agree to make him the defacto leader. He is all love and light and says he is the Christ Consciousness and came here in many forms in the past and the people of the world love him. He brings together the beast system which means he heals it, and there is but a small remnant that will not follow him.

    Your friends don't understand why you or I would say this guy isn't who you think he is. In fact we tell them this is the Anti-Christ! They plead with some government representative to help us, and we get the awesome privilege to be helped by the AC himself. We get brought before him and have to speak. Do not premeditate what to say in that moment, for it will be the opportunity for that special tongue that needs no interpreter as Daniel prophesied and was shown in Acts 2. We speak what we are given and that is it. To not do so would be the unforgivable sin as I understand it, but of course none would do that having survived the amazing deception of this false prince of peace. He is also called death in the bible... so to be delivered up to death does not mean you die necessarily. You just get to go be a big mouth... maybe that is why I am on Avalon, LOL. Nah, I'm not worthy of that honor, but it's funny to think this is schooling for me. We shall see it all soon for I do believe Jesus when he said that generation that is present at the sprouting of the leaves on the replanted fig tree would not pass until all these end days prophesies are fulfilled. We are that generation. No man knows the day or hour though.

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