Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

[modwiz]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
The Kazars and Nazis will be left alone to themselves finding nary a dollar to buy what they need to protect themselves and then when weakened the American People can do as they wish with such garbage.

Avocadess, this is French Revolution type talk. Guillotines in major town squares across America doesn't strike me as a bold and positive step forward. Please consider what this man is insinuating.

The French Revolution was cheerled by the same group who brought us the Bolshevik Revolution and the hundreds of millions dead in the wake of the march of communism across Eurasia. The Civil War or War of Northern Agression was similarly brought to us by the same parasitic types, the Bankers. All of the instigators of these movements are connected and their bloody, culture destroying, trail is their signature.

The American Revolution was a war against these types (largely) and did not come with the same bloody massacres, death by famine and cultural devastation. So, I think there could be some Old West type short term venting in some instances, but I think pillories, very ripe produce and maybe the occasional tossed bedpan would be more our style.

Ostracizing and identifying of scoundrels would be useful. Prisons? No truly civilized society has them. They are wasteful and unproductive, only useful for containing people who society would be better off without. The natural world does not contain its' problems. She 'deals' with them. Insects are sent to tear down produce that would pass on inferior genetic information. It is a form of hygiene for both the general gene pool and the world/society at large. There is something to karma, but much of our programming around the concept is just that. Programming. Put there by the controllers to try and mitigate such times when 'hygiene' is called for. Their concept of karma gets into our heads and stays many a hand that would serve to enact what Nature Herself knows to be both wise and necessary for the greater good.

I do not fear for a French Revolution type scenario. The perps are now the targets rather than the instigators. They will not advocate for their own eradication. Guaranteed.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
The Kazars and Nazis will be left alone to themselves finding nary a dollar to buy what they need to protect themselves and then when weakened the American People can do as they wish with such garbage.

Avocadess, this is French Revolution type talk. Guillotines in major town squares across America doesn't strike me as a bold and positive step forward. Please consider what this man is insinuating.

I do not fear for a French Revolution type scenario. The perps are now the targets rather than the instigators. They will not advocate for their own eradication. Guaranteed.

I don't "fear" a French Revolution Rad, it's just more of a been there done that type of thing. Even though I'm well able to defend myself, the bottom line is the bottom line, war never equals peace. It fails miserably every time it's tried. Please explain otherwise.

Peace Bro,
Fred

[modwiz]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
The Kazars and Nazis will be left alone to themselves finding nary a dollar to buy what they need to protect themselves and then when weakened the American People can do as they wish with such garbage.

Avocadess, this is French Revolution type talk. Guillotines in major town squares across America doesn't strike me as a bold and positive step forward. Please consider what this man is insinuating.

I do not fear for a French Revolution type scenario. The perps are now the targets rather than the instigators. They will not advocate for their own eradication. Guaranteed.

I don't "fear" a French Revolution Rad, it's just more of a been there done that type of thing. Even though I'm well able to defend myself, the bottom line is the bottom line, war never equals peace. It fails miserably every time it's tried. Please explain otherwise.

Peace Bro,
Fred

I see my nuanced style is still goobletygook to some. I will leave what I said just as it is. If it just lies there, so be it. The Soviet Union changed rather peacefully, as did Romania, Czechoslovakia, (that's what it was called then) and some other countries.

Agreed war does not equal peace and I am unaware of advocating one by using some historical examples to make points. Insects to not make war on sub-standard crops, they make them go away because they represent a threat to the general good. Hygiene is not war, it is the way of healthy living. I know there is some room in my words, but what gets put in those spaces is in the mind of the creators of those fillings. Much of it put in minds by media of all sorts and the programs that are part and parcel of them.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by modwiz (here)
Hygiene is not war, it is the way of healthy living.

That is a good and valid point Modwiz, we are observing multiple levels of the same thing.

Funny that.

[Hervé]

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
The Kazars and Nazis will be left alone to themselves finding nary a dollar to buy what they need to protect themselves and then when weakened the American People can do as they wish with such garbage.

Avocadess, this is French Revolution type talk. Guillotines in major town squares across America doesn't strike me as a bold and positive step forward. Please consider what this man is insinuating.

I do not fear for a French Revolution type scenario. The perps are now the targets rather than the instigators. They will not advocate for their own eradication. Guaranteed.

I don't "fear" a French Revolution Rad, it's just more of a been there done that type of thing. Even though I'm well able to defend myself, the bottom line is the bottom line, war never equals peace. It fails miserably every time it's tried. Please explain otherwise.

Peace Bro,
Fred

I do ...

Because that wasn't a revolution... it just was a "purge" of the contenders to this planet's "throne."

So... to repeat myself:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]

Taken from: France Didn't Have a Revolution
Before1919 when Nesta B. Webster published her history of the French tragedy, there was nothing in English except Thomas Carlyle's The French Revolution (1837). In her preface to The French Revolution: A Study in Democracy (1919) she expressed shock. "So far, in England, the truth is not known; we have not even been told what really happened.

Histories still teach that before the French Revolution the French aristocracy kept the peasantry hungry and desperate without any real hope or direction for the future. In her work, Webster explodes these notions regarding peasant misery before 1789 with the letters of Dr. Rigby who traveled through the French countryside in 1789 and who described "its extraordinary fertility" and its "state of the highest cultivation."

"The crops are beyond any conception I could have had of them ,,, tens of thousands of acres of wheat superior to any that can be produced in England..." He described the French people as happy, prosperous and contented. (pp. 4-5)

Yet in the midst of this abundance there was famine. It triggered the French Revolution just like the unrest today in the Middle East. And we are still taught that upon hearing of the starving French peasantry, Louis XVI's wife, Queen Marie Antoinette remarked,"Let them eat cake." This bogus quotation is used to color the French aristocrats as out of touch. In fact Marie Antoinette blamed England. She knew what was happening.

And Americans today like Webster, have blinders on when it came to their own government's dishonorable foreign policy. Webster refused to hold her English Government responsible notwithstanding the overwhelmingly damning evidence.

"What, then, is the explanation of the belief in English cooperation with the revolutionary movement? Of the English guineas found on the rioters? Of the Englishmen mingling in the mobs of Paris during popular agitations? Of the seditious pamphlets printed in London? Of the traffic in letters, messages, and money maintained between England and the revolutionary leaders? Many of these leaders were constantly in England both before and during the Revolution... These facts admit of no denial: to suppose, however, any complicity on the part of the English Government is illogical and absurd." pp.30-31

A Royalist historian and contemporary of the worst atrocities, Felix Louis Montjoie, copiously documented the role of French King Louis XVI's cousin, the Freemason Duc d'Orleans, who bought up large portions of the French grain in 1789. This role backfired on him as he was guillotined in Nov. 1793.

Later historians document the role of Pitt, the English Parliament and the King's Privy Counsel in hoarding French grain with the aid of the Illuminati British East India Company in warehouses on the English Channel Islands of Guernsey and Jersey. ("Why the French Did Not Have an American Revolution," by Pierre Beaudry, p. 5.)

[...]

In the words of John Robison in his Proofs of a Conspiracy (1797)

"The earlier revolutionary leaders were, as we have seen, the disciples of the German Illuminati, and it was they who initiated them into the art of forming political committees " to carry through the great plan of a general overturning of religion and government . . . .These committees arose from the Illuminati in Bavaria . . . and these committees produced the Jacobin Club."

"The chief lesson," Robison goes on to observe, "that the revolutionary leaders took from Germany, was the method of doing business, of managing their own correspondence, and of procuring and training pupils." pp. 190-191

The Illuminati operating in the guise of the Jacobins forced the regime change historians call the French Revolution. During the Russian Revolution they masqueraded as the Bolsheviks. Today they brag they are behind the Middle East revolutions. So maybe we should believe them.
.---
(just like the Russian Revolution of 1917)

[Hervé]

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
[...]
I do ...

Because that wasn't a revolution... it just was a "purge" of the contenders to this planet's "throne."

[...]

Then the next purge came and went in spite of this warning:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Perspective...

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
These words were written in 1935, by someone about everyone has heard of:

The Son of the Beast let the wild beasts loose. And Europe collapses like a statue of mud. The sea kills under water and the sky spits fire. And where boots and nails arrive, the sons of Israel meet torment. Sheepyards for their pains and subtle death. The headsmen know, they will lie at Nuremberg.

Always look for the headsmen, even when you think they are dead. Look for them everywhere where power uses terror. Look for them in the house of the one whose wealth came from the war. Not for revenge, but to prevent they and their children invade the world once again by disguising the word and the chief. The Son of the Beast holds the great weapon in his heart.

Fights in the mountains, red and white, climb down the flowers. Europe, those are your best sons, who, one day will be betrayed. Because the heads they thought they fell will lead again, always the same. They will shoot down the money's puppets, not the money's bosses

Nuremberg the injust. The killers are absent. Some of them on the judges' bench. This shadow spreads far.

[...]



Prophecies, Angelo Roncalli in 1935.

* (America; the sons of Luther are the Americans in Roncalli's speech, from the Protestants who came to America to escape religious persecutions; as well, the French are the "Sons of Jeanne [d'Arc]")

That Angelo Roncalli guy... well, he is the one who, after WWII, became Pope John XXIII.

Excerpts from "Les prophéties du pape Jean XXIII," Pier Carpi, Ed "J'ai Lu." Translation: bibi.

Edit:

I emphasized "always the same" because "they" keep coming back in new or "other' bodies...

[9eagle9]

Tearing down certain aspects of the human genome could be considered hygiene as well. or that uncomfortable notion of paring down to a certain amount of beings on earth. It's been done with other creatures who live on this earth but when it comes to humanity the thought is unthinkable. And its not that the earth is that tender and beleagured or " Gaia Crying" ,(She is the last female I know that is found weeping into her beer) its because its just unneccesary to have that many parasitical beings concentrated in one area.

History has shown us ...She doesn't care about EVERY-body. Or at least care in the way they'd like Her to.

I know people are outraged by thought of it but She always has the the janitorial service running. People don't notice how much the janitorial service is always running. People don't notice the janitorial service running in this thread.

I would know that if the ptb is gonna come down as they will, She cleans up **** in Her own, an equal number of people don't think they are associated with the energy are going to not be around either. And those would be the ones who are outraged at the notion that should fall.

the whole notion of the ptb mass exterminating people is just mimcry of what She eventually gets around to;She just happens to know when the optimal conditions to do so should be achieved. The ptb on the other hand try force things.

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Fred Steeves (here)

Posted by Avocadess (here)
The Kazars and Nazis will be left alone to themselves finding nary a dollar to buy what they need to protect themselves and then when weakened the American People can do as they wish with such garbage.

Avocadess, this is French Revolution type talk. Guillotines in major town squares across America doesn't strike me as a bold and positive step forward. Please consider what this man is insinuating.

The French Revolution was cheerled by the same group who brought us the Bolshevik Revolution and the hundreds of millions dead in the wake of the march of communism across Eurasia. The Civil War or War of Northern Agression was similarly brought to us by the same parasitic types, the Bankers. All of the instigators of these movements are connected and their bloody, culture destroying, trail is their signature.

The American Revolution was a war against these types (largely) and did not come with the same bloody massacres, death by famine and cultural devastation. So, I think there could be some Old West type short term venting in some instances, but I think pillories, very ripe produce and maybe the occasional tossed bedpan would be more our style.

Ostracizing and identifying of scoundrels would be useful. Prisons? No truly civilized society has them. They are wasteful and unproductive, only useful for containing people who society would be better off without. The natural world does not contain its' problems. She 'deals' with them. Insects are sent to tear down produce that would pass on inferior genetic information. It is a form of hygiene for both the general gene pool and the world/society at large. There is something to karma, but much of our programming around the concept is just that. Programming. Put there by the controllers to try and mitigate such times when 'hygiene' is called for. Their concept of karma gets into our heads and stays many a hand that would serve to enact what Nature Herself knows to be both wise and necessary for the greater good.

I do not fear for a French Revolution type scenario. The perps are now the targets rather than the instigators. They will not advocate for their own eradication. Guaranteed.

[Ishtar]

The predatory cycle within Nature is necessary to the health of the Planet. Those animals and insects are fulfilling their purpose of preying upon the species below them in the food chain. We are also part of the predatory cycle in that we prey upon other animal species below us in the food chain (unless we're vegetarian). But there are very few animals that kill their own species... it does happen, but it's rare. I think this is where the reptoid agenda has come from. If revolutionaries can be convinced that the 'evil cabal' are not of our species, then they will be more easily able kill them. (This, by the way, is standard Army training... new recruits are brainwashed into calling the enemy names in order to dehumanise them).

Violence towards fellow members of the same species is usually heavily ritualised in that they rarely go in for the kill. Everyone knows the rules and they stick to them. They just tend to strut around, trumpet and clash horns, and eventually the loser retreats and the winner gets the top lady.

If we take it upon ourselves to start killing members of our own species that we don't like, people will start settling old personal scores right, left and centre. Without the ritualised violence of war, it will be chaos .. there will untold bloodshed and for no good reason because then another of Nature's laws will come into play. Nature abhors a vacuum and so the power vacuum will be filled with the biggest bully and loudest voice, and we will be back in the old cycle again of perpetual war with 'peace' just being an interval between wars to give armies time to prepare and replenish, as it has been the case for thousands of years.

When the sacred texts, like the Vedas, talk about a Golden Age, they're talking about a change in consciousness which can only happen on the individual level by each sovereign person changing themselves, through transforming their consciousness, and the techniques are taught them to do so. No political movement or religion, however seemingly righteous, can help us transform our consciousness. It is done on the individual level.

A change in consciousness leads to different behaviour and different ways of solving problems. The Age or Yuga we're in, according to the Vedas, is known as Kali Yuga or the Iron Age, which represents the violent goddess Kali, Mars and war and it is the Darkest Age.


Kali


If we use Kali and Mars energy to solve the problem of 'the evil cabal', we will be using Dark Age consciousness and technology and therefore, we cannot expect there to be any change or any Golden Age.

In my view, violence within a species and towards its own species is a sign of a sick species. Not that that's a criticism of the soldiers or people we ask to do our violence for us. On the contrary. They are only doing our bidding and many of them are very courageous. But I believe that we cannot get the result of a Golden Age using Iron Age consciousness and technology, and any revolutionary leader like Drake who tells us that we can is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The predatory cycle within Nature is necessary to the health of the Planet. Those animals and insects are fulfilling their purpose of preying upon the species below them in the food chain. We are also part of the predatory cycle in that we prey upon other animal species below us in the food chain (unless we're vegetarian). But there are very few animals that kill their own species... it does happen, but it's rare. I think this is where the reptoid agenda has come from. If revolutionaries can be convinced that the 'evil cabal' are not of our species, then they will be more easily able kill them. (This, by the way, is standard Army training... new recruits are brainwashed into calling the enemy names in order to dehumanise them).

Violence towards fellow members of the same species is usually heavily ritualised in that they rarely go in for the kill. Everyone knows the rules and they stick to them. They just tend to strut around, trumpet and clash horns, and eventually the loser retreats and the winner gets the top lady.

If we take it upon ourselves to start killing members of our own species that we don't like, people will start settling old personal scores right, left and centre. Without the ritualised violence of war, it will be chaos .. there will untold bloodshed and for no good reason because then another of Nature's laws will come into play. Nature abhors a vacuum and so the power vacuum will be filled with the biggest bully and loudest voice, and we will be back in the old cycle again of perpetual war with 'peace' just being an interval between wars to give armies time to prepare and replenish, as it has been the case for thousands of years.

When the sacred texts, like the Vedas, talk about a Golden Age, they're talking about a change in consciousness which can only happen on the individual level by each sovereign person changing themselves, through transforming their consciousness, and the techniques are taught them to do so. No political movement or religion, however seemingly righteous, can help us transform our consciousness. It is done on the individual level.

A change in consciousness leads to different behaviour and different ways of solving problems. The Age or Yuga we're in, according to the Vedas, is known as Kali Yuga or the Iron Age, which represents the violent goddess Kali, Mars and war and it is the Darkest Age.


Kali


If we use Kali and Mars energy to solve the problem of 'the evil cabal', we will be using Dark Age consciousness and technology and therefore, we cannot expect there to be any change or any Golden Age.

In my view, violence within a species and towards its own species is a sign of a sick species. Not that that's a criticism of the soldiers or people we ask to do our violence for us. On the contrary. They are only doing our bidding and many of them are very courageous. But I believe that we cannot get the result of a Golden Age using Iron Age consciousness and technology, and any revolutionary leader like Drake who tells us that we can is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

QUOTE

…man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)

[9eagle9]

Unfortunately man has taught some breeds of animals, particularly dogs, they have domesticated to be wanton killers--killing for pleasure. Here in the country is not unusual for foxes and racoons to make off with the barnyard chickens which they consume for continued existence. It's also not unusual for a dog to come rampaging in , kill all of one's chickens, and then leave them dead where they lay.

Cats play with their prey because its been thousands of years since they hunted naturally and tend to savor and prolong the hunt.

Horses developed food aggressions by being domesticated by man and offered processed grains. The sugar content in processed grains is like crack to some horses, and tends to cause a otherwise gentle horse to bite the hand that feeds it. Horses didn't crib until they were deprived a natural existence.

We are in a certain sense given them OUR minds over a long period of association in domestication.

As far as what we eat we have to kill something in order to live whether its a plant or an animal. Agriculture has perverted both sources of food. Forced growing en masse not just because there's a much larger population but because people eat in excess for pleasure and for comfort---both parasitical practices. Not to say one shouldn't enjoy one's food but there's a threshold where one moves from enjoying one's food to being dependent on food for pleasure and comfort and to instantly gratify hunger or an empty space inside them.

We created a space for this sort of paradigm , particularly expressed through fast food. In order for it to be cheap, it has to be cheap food--processed GMO food. Healthy fast food is not going to be cheap. It has to be fast because parasites want instant gratification. People want instant gratification. We created that space and we hold it. We want cheap and fast so ....we ask for our own poison. We want 12-21-12 to be an instant fix.

Think of the outcry if McDonalds provided expensive, fast healthy food...oh my that would be so wrong too.

Mind I'm not a fan of fast food conglomerates but they are really only giving what we are asking for, and in doing that if they make us unhealthy another aspect of the FDA, the drug portion of it will provide instant miracle pills to 'treat' what is wrong for us. We create a space and someone/something will come along and fill it. This is why I say that people will walk right into FEMA workcamps, it will provide instant fix and gratification for what they percieve they don't have.

We create and hold that space . People who choose Drake scenarios are not being driven by their own wherewithall but by parasitical energies. AND they want it all--they want respect for that. And there's those who just point out an infection is being spread which tends to be not the most pleasant scenario but the most responsible one when the herd goes into parasite reaction.

The Drake 'instant' fix where the military and Pentagon all suddenly just transform and get on the right path, and do the right thing on July 4 reflects a parastitical situation. The people who laud that sort of inane thinking create and hold that space. You see now in spite of it all there are still people attempting to hold that space much the same way some would be waiting in their car at the drive through if the local McDonalds burnt to the ground waiting for something to happen.

Those who attempted to take that low vibrational feed away were chastised as negative. Those who treat drug addictions are viewed that way by the drug addicts. Those who attempt to abate alcohol dependency are viewed as wrong, judgemental and negative by the alcoholic who thinks that there is nothing wrong with them.

And is also just a further reflection of Wilcocks, instant fix of 12-21-12 where everything just magickally corrects its---is just another facet of the parasitical symptoms.

When people start correcting themselves, and detaching from their own parasitical habits and mindsets, then things will actually begin to correct on their own. When we start correcting 'the mind' they have given us, instead of SPREADING it, things will start to self correct. It's not instant, but it is gratifying and one is fed from an inner natural place rather than an artificial external one that just serves to keep this parastical system in place.

See how quickly Wilcocks began detaching from Drake when it began to look like Drake wasn't going to provide him with some platform for 'star prophecy'? Or be the vehicle in which brought all DW's predictions to pass?

Parastical. So when people get into the real heart of the matter and just see a frenzy of parasitical sucking, and point out that the ones jumping on the bandwagon of the dog and pony show, are the actual contributors to what ails us, are engaging in parasticial behavior, those who create a space and hold what ails us, those who are doing it get offended and reactive because they are in fact engaging in parasitical behavior.

What is the reaction typically when a person finds a great big blood laden leech attached to them?

Is it any wonder that some have the same sort of reaction to the Drake situation?

The Drake adherents if they are capable of learning anything can then know why they are not treated as a participant towards solution but a re-creator of the problem.

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Ishtar (here)
The predatory cycle within Nature is necessary to the health of the Planet. Those animals and insects are fulfilling their purpose of preying upon the species below them in the food chain. We are also part of the predatory cycle in that we prey upon other animal species below us in the food chain (unless we're vegetarian). But there are very few animals that kill their own species... it does happen, but it's rare. I think this is where the reptoid agenda has come from. If revolutionaries can be convinced that the 'evil cabal' are not of our species, then they will be more easily able kill them. (This, by the way, is standard Army training... new recruits are brainwashed into calling the enemy names in order to dehumanise them).

Violence towards fellow members of the same species is usually heavily ritualised in that they rarely go in for the kill. Everyone knows the rules and they stick to them. They just tend to strut around, trumpet and clash horns, and eventually the loser retreats and the winner gets the top lady.

If we take it upon ourselves to start killing members of our own species that we don't like, people will start settling old personal scores right, left and centre. Without the ritualised violence of war, it will be chaos .. there will untold bloodshed and for no good reason because then another of Nature's laws will come into play. Nature abhors a vacuum and so the power vacuum will be filled with the biggest bully and loudest voice, and we will be back in the old cycle again of perpetual war with 'peace' just being an interval between wars to give armies time to prepare and replenish, as it has been the case for thousands of years.

When the sacred texts, like the Vedas, talk about a Golden Age, they're talking about a change in consciousness which can only happen on the individual level by each sovereign person changing themselves, through transforming their consciousness, and the techniques are taught them to do so. No political movement or religion, however seemingly righteous, can help us transform our consciousness. It is done on the individual level.

A change in consciousness leads to different behaviour and different ways of solving problems. The Age or Yuga we're in, according to the Vedas, is known as Kali Yuga or the Iron Age, which represents the violent goddess Kali, Mars and war and it is the Darkest Age.


Kali


If we use Kali and Mars energy to solve the problem of 'the evil cabal', we will be using Dark Age consciousness and technology and therefore, we cannot expect there to be any change or any Golden Age.

In my view, violence within a species and towards its own species is a sign of a sick species. Not that that's a criticism of the soldiers or people we ask to do our violence for us. On the contrary. They are only doing our bidding and many of them are very courageous. But I believe that we cannot get the result of a Golden Age using Iron Age consciousness and technology, and any revolutionary leader like Drake who tells us that we can is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

QUOTE

…man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)

[Unified Serenity]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

QUOTE

…man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)

It's a nice thought, but that's not how I saw monkeys act. One monkey killed another for what seemed like no reason, and gloated over it, tossing it's body. I love documentaries, and there are some very odd behaviors in the animal kingdom. One documentary showed a group of rogue dolphins harassing a young female dolphin and repeatedly raping her. At least that's what the expert said, as it was not normal mating behavior. I just don't think it's as easy an explanation and the animal kingdom is much more complicated than this.

[Hervé]

All right, time for a refresher:



Twilight Of The Psychopaths

by Dr. Kevin Barrett
Spanish version


“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”
– John Lennon, before his murder by CIA mind-control subject Mark David Chapman

When Gandhi was asked his opinion of Western civilization he said it would be a good idea. But that oft-cited quote, is misleading, assuming as it does that civilization is an unmitigated blessing.

Civilized people, we are told, live peacefully and cooperatively with their fellows, sharing the necessary labour in order to obtain the leisure to develop arts and sciences. And while that would be a good idea, it is not a good description of what has been going on in the so-called advanced cultures during the past 8,000 years.

Civilization, as we know it, is largely the creation of psychopaths. All civilizations, our own included, have been based on slavery and “warfare.” Incidentally, the latter term is a euphemism for mass murder.

The prevailing recipe for civilization is simple:
1. Use lies and brainwashing to create an army of controlled, systematic mass murderers
2. Use that army to enslave large numbers of people (i.e. seize control of their labour power and its fruits)
3. Use that slave labour power to improve the brainwashing process (by using the economic surplus to employ scribes, priests, and PR men). Then go back to step one and repeat the process.


Psychopaths have played a disproportionate role in the development of civilization, because they are hard-wired to lie, kill, injure, and generally inflict great suffering on other humans without feeling any remorse. The inventor of civilization — the first tribal chieftain who successfully brainwashed an army of controlled mass murderers—was almost certainly a genetic psychopath.

Since that momentous discovery, psychopaths have enjoyed a significant advantage over non-psychopaths in the struggle for power in civilizational hierarchies — especially military hierarchies.

Military institutions are tailor-made for psychopathic killers. The 5% or so of human males who feel no remorse about killing their fellow human beings make the best soldiers. And the 95% who are extremely reluctant to kill make terrible soldiers — unless they are brainwashed with highly sophisticated modern techniques that turn them (temporarily it is hoped) into functional psychopaths.

In On Killing, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman has re-written military history, to highlight what other histories hide: The fact that military science is less about strategy and technology, than about overcoming the instinctive human reluctance to kill members of our own species.

The true “Revolution in Military Affairs” was not Donald Rumsfeld’s move to high-tech in 2001, but Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall’s discovery in the 1940s that only 15-20% of World War II soldiers along the line of fire would use their weapons:

“Those (80-85%) who did not fire did not run or hide (in many cases they were willing to risk great danger to rescue comrades, get ammunition, or run messages), but they simply would not fire their weapons at the enemy, even when faced with repeated waves of banzai charges”
(Grossman, p. 4).

Marshall’s discovery and subsequent research, proved that in all previous wars, a tiny minority of soldiers — the 5% who are natural-born psychopaths, and perhaps a few temporarily-insane imitators—did almost all the killing.

Normal men just went through the motions and, if at all possible, refused to take the life of an enemy soldier, even if that meant giving up their own. The implication: Wars are ritualized mass murders by psychopaths of non-psychopaths. (This cannot be good for humanity’s genetic endowment!)

Marshall’s work, brought a Copernican revolution to military science. In the past, everyone believed that the soldier willing to kill for his country was the (heroic) norm, while one who refused to fight was a (cowardly) aberration. The truth, as it turned out, was that the normative soldier hailed from the psychopathic five percent.

The sane majority, would rather die than fight.

The implication, too frightening for even the likes of Marshall and Grossman to fully digest, was that the norms for soldiers’ behavior in battle had been set by psychopaths. That meant that psychopaths were in control of the military as an institution.

Worse, it meant that psychopaths were in control of society’s perception of military affairs. Evidently, psychopaths exercised an enormous amount of power in seemingly sane, normal society.

How could that be?
In Political Ponerology, Andrzej Lobaczewski explains that clinical psychopaths enjoy advantages even in non-violent competitions to climb the ranks of social hierarchies. Because they can lie without remorse (and without the telltale physiological stress that is measured by lie detector tests) psychopaths can always say whatever is necessary to get what they want.

In court, for example, psychopaths can tell extreme bald-faced lies in a plausible manner, while their sane opponents are handicapped by an emotional predisposition to remain within hailing distance of the truth. Too often, the judge or jury imagines that the truth must be somewhere in the middle, and then issues decisions that benefit the psychopath. As with judges and juries, so too with those charged with decisions concerning who to promote and who not to promote in corporate, military and governmental hierarchies.

The result is that all hierarchies inevitably become top-heavy with psychopaths

[...]


Continue here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nerology08.htm

After all, if human bodies can host psycho parasites, why not other types of bodies?

[gripreaper]

Listening to tonight's radio show with Drake. He claims the Keenan lawsuit has been refiled and will post it to his website within the next few days. It should also show up on Pacer. I'll withhold comment on that until I get a chance to read it and see what the venue is, under what subject matter jurisdiction, and what the charges are and who the defendants are.

Drake is still confused over public and private processes and how they are enforced. Sure, the "Notice" "Affidavit's" and "Liens" filed were administrative, not judicial, and trying to tie the two together and make an administrative notice enforceable...well...

That's all for now until I see the lawsuit.

[edit] A guy named Erin calls in, apparently having spoken to the attorney on the case, and the case "has not" been refiled. He also attempts to set things straight about subject matter jurisdiction.

[araucaria]

@Modwiz

I am sorry if you feel that the French Revolution was a fake. The notions of liberty, equality and fraternity are still core values here in France, and I imagine elsewhere too. God knows there have been plenty of attempts to throw them out - empires, restorations, collaboration, far right parties, you name it.

If you deprive freedom lovers of this bread, then your cake had better be good

[9eagle9]

Is liberty, equality and fraternity an actuality ? Or just notions. Most of what we think is real is just an idea, a notion. Sounds good so it must be the truth.

When I have a core value it is expressed in my life not just an idea that remains manifested or expressed in my physical existence.

Liberty in America is a notion. So is equality. It sounds nice on paper, text and media but the notion has nothing to do with reality.

Most of our major world events, historically speaking, were put over as noble notions but the realities of the situation had nothing to do with the nobility of the notion.

In America we were given the notion that the Civil War was about freeing slaves and it was really about economics and money.

We had that this notion that hunting witches was godly it would keep the world safe from the Devil.

We had this notion the Crusades were a good idea so the devil couldn't get a toe hold.

We had this notion about the Inquisition that was very noble and godly and it proved to be anything but.

We fought WW2 because there was a notion that the German bad guys were going to take over the world and that was all banking related too. So was WW1. While we were distracted by the notion of the Nazi's, the bankers further entrenched in ruling the world.

So notions are nice but typically have nothing to do with the reality of the situation. Nor do they do anything to change the reality of the situation when one has no notion of the reality of the situation.

Whether Modwiz's cake is good is irrelevant; a good (or bad) cake still doesn't improve or change the fact the pie is hollow.

Posted by araucaria (here)
@Modwiz

I am sorry if you feel that the French Revolution was a fake. The notions of liberty, equality and fraternity are still core values here in France, and I imagine elsewhere too. God knows there have been plenty of attempts to throw them out - empires, restorations, collaboration, far right parties, you name it.

If you deprive freedom lovers of this bread, then your cake had better be good

[araucaria]

'Just notions' that find expression here on Avalon for starters...

[9eagle9]

Talking about a notion is not the same as expression or manifest. Talking it about it doesn't lend it reality or make it real.

[araucaria]

I am not just talking to you about fraternity, dear 9eagle9, I am fraternizing with you, no?
as equals, and with a degree of freedom

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

May I ask why this thread is still alive?

It´s clearly derailed and the biggest part of Drake believers realized that his "plan" is nothing but a fantasy.

I think it´s time to move on...

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey folks,

May I ask why this thread is still alive?

It´s clearly derailed and the biggest part of Drake believers realized that his "plan" is nothing but a fantasy.

I think it´s time to move on...

Raf.

Don't toss the towel in yet Raf, it's not over yet and updates are still occasionally coming in on this thread.

Won't be long in my opinion until we see the remainder of the followers trying to raise money to get Drake and a some others bailed out of jail, that is if they even set a bond on them. The story is not over at all by any means.....

....and of course, we may get to see them raptured yet and just disappear.....I feel there is a strange twist about to happen with this fantasy, I mean, "plan".....