The Bible

[RedeZra]

Posted by greybeard (here)
We are waves of the divine ocean--- that I believe--- in essence we are all the same.
Eventually we will all subside into the Ocean and find we never left home, we only thought we did.

according to the Bible we will all subside into the lake of fire

which is not home

but a place prepared for the devil and evil


God got our sins covered

through the Blood of His Son

so we don't have to go there


but then you have to go to Him

[RedeZra]

when we don't get


Jesus is God

then we get

into all sorts of problems


by ourselves

[RedeZra]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Jesus was humility and ego less

Jesus came as the Lamb of God to be crucified for our sins

but He will return like the Lion of Judah

like the strong God that He is


Jesus would like us to be humble and put our hope in Him


Jesus is God my friend

and there is no other

[RedeZra]

Posted by Beren (here)

Key part in all this is what Horizons,Kreagle and RedeZra has pointed out in some of their posts- Holy spirit.
Without it - it`s not possible to understand what Bible is for and how to use this tool of God.


Same is with Bible.
No holy spirit by God- no understanding.

dear Beren


the Bible is not a mystery that is to be solved

but an inspired preserved and protected work and word of God


the Book spells out what we need to do to receive the Holy spirit

so no secrets there


and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible

but to guide us into Heaven

[Spiral]

and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible

but to guide us into Heaven

I think you are contradicting your self here;

Also the Bible is not literal, if it is, the Old Testament is a collection of grotesque stories, and The New Testament is riddled with delusion & contradiction, take the two different accounts of Jesus's lineage for example.

[RedeZra]

Posted by Spiral (here)

and the point of the Spirit of God is not to reveal the deeper things in the Bible

but to guide us into Heaven

I think you are contradicting your self here;

do you think God would like us to dive deep into His book or come Home ?

Posted by Spiral (here)
Also the Bible is not literal, if it is, the Old Testament is a collection of grotesque stories, and The New Testament is riddled with delusion & contradiction, take the two different accounts of Jesus's lineage for example.

because we have been educated by the devil since birth

through our culture mass media movies science etc etc

we got a wrong wiew about God our origin history and destiny


the devil did not tell us about his giant seed that God destroyed in the Flood and then in Canaan

hell the devil did not tell us about himself

[greybeard]

Hi Red please take time to watch this video which gives all respect to God The Word and the fullness of the Truth of the Bible.
You may not agree with it all, but it is well worth viewing
The video was posted on the forum recently thanks to the original poster

With Love
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dVUU3p5iHMA

https://youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=dVUU3p5iHMA

[Billy]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

so instead of reading the Bible myself

and pray about it


you suggest i go read another's take on the Bible

so that he can twist the truths to me about what is written in the Book


don't you know that cursed is the man who put his trust in another man ?

did not the Holy spirit tell you that

The bible states that not everything was written within the bible and that you should seek outside the bible for that which is hidden and you will find it.

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: [Math 7:7]

But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. [John 21:25;]

John 21:25 suggests that there is still more to know about Him. At least for St. John the Apostle, there was more that he needed to teach which was not recorded in the Bible:

I had much to write you, but I would rather not write with pen and ink; I hope to see you soon, and we will talk together face to face. [3 John 13-14]

And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down." [Rev 10.4]

He replied, "Go, Daniel. These words are to be kept secret and sealed until the end times. [Dan 12:9]

"The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future." [Dan 8:26]

Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come." [ Dan 10:14 ]

But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge." [Dan 12:4 ]
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Red it is quite clear in the bible that not all the truths are written down, and one should expand their knowledge outside bible. otherwise you become blinkered within the controlled system. think outside the box my friend.

peace

[RedeZra]

Posted by billyji (here)
The bible states that not everything was written within the bible and that you should seek outside the bible for that which is hidden and you will find it.


Red it is quite clear in the bible that not all the truths are written down, and one should expand their knowledge outside bible. otherwise you become blinkered within the controlled system. think outside the box my friend.

is that why you choose to listen to a man

who comes up with a completely new interpretation of the Bible


what did God say about trusting men ?


read the Book yourselves and don't fall for fancy interpretations

God know how to protect His words

and all we got to do is read pray and seek Him

[RedeZra]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Hi Red please take time to watch this video which gives all respect to God The Word and the fullness of the Truth of the Bible.

yes i watched it

but what does it have to do with the Bible


do we want to know the technicalities behind the Handiwork of God

or do we want to know God ?

[RedeZra]

did you know before Jesus was born that He is God in Heaven ?

did you know Jesus created the universe ?

did you know Jesus made us ?


do you know Jesus is God ?

[Billy]

Posted by RedeZra (here)

Posted by billyji (here)
The bible states that not everything was written within the bible and that you should seek outside the bible for that which is hidden and you will find it.


Red it is quite clear in the bible that not all the truths are written down, and one should expand their knowledge outside bible. otherwise you become blinkered within the controlled system. think outside the box my friend.

is that why you choose to listen to a man

who comes up with a completely new interpretation of the Bible


what did God say about trusting men ?


read the Book yourselves and don't fall for fancy interpretations

God know how to protect His words

and all we got to do is read pray and seek Him

I have read the bible many many times for over 40yrs Red as you already know . What MAN do you talk about, What new interpretation do refer. I see you miss all the bible references in my comment above.

I pray for you that your eyes will be opened one day.

peace

[greybeard]

Red
Jesus was God made manifest--- so is everything Red, the totality all of it---- look under a stone etc
God became everything without diminishing Himself did He not?
Jesus was a higher spiritual vibration than anyone else ever on earth.
You will find God every where without exception in the manifestation at varying frequencies. .
Thats what the video points to its written in text in the video not just the spoken part.

You only see and hear what you want to see and hear--- that applies to everyone including me --- smiling.

With
Love Chris

[RedeZra]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)

is that why you choose to listen to a man

who comes up with a completely new interpretation of the Bible


what did God say about trusting men ?

I have read the bible many many times for over 40yrs Red as you already know . What MAN do you talk about, What new interpretation do refer. I see you miss all the bible references in my comment above.

I pray for you that your eyes will be opened one day.

why do blind pray for eyesight to another ?


i'm talking about that Italian guy

[RedeZra]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Red
Jesus was God made manifest--- so is everything Red, the totality all of it---- look under a stone etc

this is pagan Panteisme Chris and not biblical

Posted by greybeard (here)
God became everything without diminishing Himself did He not?

God created everything

but nothing is God but God

Posted by greybeard (here)
Jesus was a higher spiritual vibration than anyone else ever on earth.

No Jesus is God

who created everything

Posted by greybeard (here)
You will find God every where without exception in the manifestation at varying frequencies. .

again this is Panteisme and not true

the biblical view is that Jesus is God

not you not me not even the angels

[Billy]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)

so instead of reading the Bible myself

and pray about it


you suggest i go read another's take on the Bible

so that he can twist the truths to me about what is written in the Book


don't you know that cursed is the man who put his trust in another man ?

did not the Holy spirit tell you that

The bible states that not everything was written within the bible and that you should seek outside the bible for that which is hidden and you will find it.

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: [Math 7:7]

But there are also many other things which Jesus did; were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. [John 21:25;]

John 21:25 suggests that there is still more to know about Him. At least for St. John the Apostle, there was more that he needed to teach which was not recorded in the Bible:

I had much to write you, but I would rather not write with pen and ink; I hope to see you soon, and we will talk together face to face. [3 John 13-14]

And when the seven thunders spoke, I was about to write; but I heard a voice from heaven say, "Seal up what the seven thunders have said and do not write it down." [Rev 10.4]

He replied, "Go, Daniel. These words are to be kept secret and sealed until the end times. [Dan 12:9]

"The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future." [Dan 8:26]

Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come." [ Dan 10:14 ]

But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge." [Dan 12:4 ]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Red it is quite clear in the bible that not all the truths are written down, and one should expand their knowledge outside bible. otherwise you become blinkered within the controlled system. think outside the box my friend.

peace

Where do you see an Italian guy in my comment Red ?? open eyes before you look my friend

Posted by RedeZra (here)
i'm talking about that Italian guy

[RedeZra]

Posted by billyji (here)

Posted by RedeZra (here)

i'm talking about that Italian guy

Where do you see an Italian guy in my comment Red ?? open eyes before you look my friend

do you think your promo of Biglino

doesn't count now

just because you didn't bring him up here in your last post ?

[Beren]

Proofs from Bible that man is one with God when united in spirit.

I Corinthians 1

4I always thank God for you because Christ Jesus has shown you God’s good will. 5 Through Christ Jesus you have become rich in every way—in speech and knowledge of every kind. 6 Our message about Christ has been verified among you. 7 Therefore, you don’t lack any gift as you wait eagerly for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. 8 He will continue to give you strength until the end so that no one can accuse you of anything on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 God faithfully keeps his promises. He called you to be partners with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.


26 Brothers and sisters, consider what you were when God called you to be Christians. Not many of you were wise from a human point of view. You were not in powerful positions or in the upper social classes. 27 But God chose what the world considers nonsense to put wise people to shame. God chose what the world considers weak to put what is strong to shame. 28 God chose what the world considers ordinary and what it despises—what it considers to be nothing—in order to destroy what it considers to be something. 29 As a result, no one can brag in God’s presence. 30 You are partners with Christ Jesus because of God. Jesus has become our wisdom sent from God, our righteousness, our holiness, and our ransom from sin. 31 As Scripture says, “Whoever brags must brag about what the Lord has done.”

Second chapter:


10God has revealed those things to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches everything, especially the deep things of God. 11 After all, who knows everything about a person except that person’s own spirit? In the same way, no one has known everything about God except God’s Spirit. 12 Now, we didn’t receive the spirit that belongs to the world. Instead, we received the Spirit who comes from God so that we could know the things which God has freely given us. 13 We don’t speak about these things using teachings that are based on intellectual arguments like people do. Instead, we use the Spirit’s teachings. We explain spiritual things to those who have the Spirit.[b]
14 A person who isn’t spiritual doesn’t accept the teachings of God’s Spirit. He thinks they’re nonsense. He can’t understand them because a person must be spiritual to evaluate them. 15 Spiritual people evaluate everything but are subject to no one’s evaluation.
16 “Who has known the mind of the Lord
so that he can teach him?”

However, we have the mind of Christ.








Just connect the dots. Answers are all there.
By having Christ`s mind ,we are able to understand God as our Father or Creator.

No one else can in its entirety.
But whom God gives the spirit?

I explained this earlier in previous post.

[RedeZra]

do not be surprised


that i point to Jesus as God

in this thread about the Bible


that is what the Book is all about

[Beren]

Posted by RedeZra (here)
do not be surprised


that i point to Jesus as God

in this thread about the Bible


that is what the Book is all about

God is Jesus and Jesus is God. And God called us through Jesus to be partners with Jesus.
Hence being one with God.

Simple as that .

Chris has broken his fingers writing about this Red