The Sun Of Late

[donk]

I agree w what starseed said. I will go with months, I notice on specific days going back to winter at least. Today is rough, this whole past week has been really weird.

And I'm noticing about 50/50 split w people I been mentioning it to (who normally don't talk about such things), in agreeing ("yeah, now that you mention it, it has been feeling different) to complete opposite (range of explanations def not change in sun, like extra humid/drought/normal).

To me that (not to mention this thread) adds a little confirmation to me on this line of thinking. So curious as to what's going on...It's aggravating thinking orgs like NASA and gov prob have an idea and won't share.

[Hervé]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
"In order to catch so subtle a change, you must first be paying attention. The earth... is tilting folks..."

Well I have a sun dial, there is a sun dial on the local church. The Met Office have dozens of sunshine measuring devices - many consisting of nothing more complex than a glass sphere burning a track on paper. If the Earth were tilting by 5 degrees away from usual, the tracks burning into the Met Offices paper graphs would have noticeably changed. My sun dial (and everyone else's) would now be wrong by a few minutes - clear to see.

The Earth simply can't undergo such changes without huge awareness from thousands of trained observers and it being headline news in every paper on the planet - even if NASA did try to deny it - and why should they? If it were really happening, and they did deny it they would look completely ridiculous.

(Am I being naive here, or does what I think is common sense make sense to anyone else? Actually, on reflection, perhaps I've just fallen for a wind-up...)

Not naive at all... it's just that some prople like to throw that one every now and then, probably to check on the responses?

Here is a big sundial that didn't stood up its date... it was right ontime, right on the dot as astronomically computed:

Posted by Amzer Zo (here)
Ooopss! No Pole nor Plate Shift Yet!

Manhattanhenge occurred right on schedule... right on the dot, as shown in the article below.

Since reports of the Sun or Moon rising or setting in weird spots have a tendency to resurface like seasonal flu, hay fever or Nibiru fever... with the implication that there is a macro or micro plate/pole shift afoot...

The following article demonstrates that none of these reports of the Sun or Moon rising or setting in weird spots are grounded in our Earth reality and can be flushed down the septic tank along with the substances which, presumably, originated these "visions"...


New Yorkers Crack a Smile at 'Manhattanhenge'

Life's Little Mysteries Staff
Date: 13 July 2012 Time: 11:34 AM ET


Manhattanhenge on July 11 at 8:24 p.m.
CREDIT: Henry Sene Yee | Instragram user ID: hsyee


Thousands of New Yorkers hit the streets Wednesday and Thursday at dusk to see the setting sun turn the Manhattan skyline into a Stonehenge-like sundial.

The event, dubbed "Manhattanhenge," happens on two sets of two consecutive days each summer when the sun hits the horizon exactly in line with New York City's rectangular grid, lighting up both the north and south sides of the city's cross streets. On Wednesday (July 11), the full orb could be seen perched at the horizon, whereas on Thursday (July 12), the true "Manhattanhenge," the sun tucked itself into bed perfectly in line with the streets.

Spectators snapped spectacular photos of Wednesday's show, and Twitter was atwitter with mentions of the celestial alignment. The sky didn't cooperate quite as well on Thursday, however; the sun was "trying very hard to peak through the clouds," said Twitter user Andrew Dallos. [Gallery of the Craziest Clouds]

What makes this sunset so special? Any city crossed by a street grid that heeds the cardinal directions will experience days when the setting sun aligns with its east-to-west streets, but New York has the added requirements of impressive skyscrapers and, beyond them, a clear westward view to the horizon, across the Hudson River to New Jersey.

As the astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson put it on the Hayden Planetarium website, "Manhattanhenge may just be a unique urban phenomenon in the world, if not the universe."

[Nick Matkin]

Thank you Amzer Zo. Clear unambiguous proof that the Earth is doing EXACTLY what it always does.

It surprises me that so many people believe that any new or unusual astronomical event can be covered up. There are many thousands of keen (sometimes obsessive) well-equipped amateur observers of the sun, solar system, Earth's orbit, magnetic field, ionosphere etc. Any one of them naturally enjoys the fame that a confirmed discovery of a new asteroid, comet or other astronomical event would bring them and they're not going to keep quiet.

An axis tilt of the Earth, approaching Nibiru or spaceships thousands of miles long 'hidden' in the rings of Saturn are not going to go unnoticed for long whatever government agencies try to do...

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by DeDukshyn;528644
The whole thing is weird. It's like its happening then it is not happening when measured -- this sounds stupid but it really seems that way. Also consider the newly introduced 13th astrology sign. What was all that about? It was plastered all over MSM. The horoscope signs are based on the earth's procession being divided into 12 slices -- one for each horoscope sign. If suddenly there's 13, then room would have to made in the Earth's precession -- indicating a change in the precession. Maybe the Earth hasn't "tilted" but maybe the precession has changed somehow? What would spawn the need / desire to change the precessional based astrology? Here's one of the strangely vague MSM reports .... [URL="http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/"
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/[/URL]

I never bought in to or even considered this 13th sign being a part of the zodiac. It seemed like another new age invention to me at the time and still does... and kind of went in one ear and out the other.

[Sidney]

Posted by Nick Matkin (here)
Thank you Amzer Zo. Clear unambiguous proof that the Earth is doing EXACTLY what it always does.

It surprises me that so many people believe that any new or unusual astronomical event can be covered up. There are many thousands of keen (sometimes obsessive) well-equipped amateur observers of the sun, solar system, Earth's orbit, magnetic field, ionosphere etc. Any one of them naturally enjoys the fame that a confirmed discovery of a new asteroid, comet or other astronomical event would bring them and they're not going to keep quiet.

An axis tilt of the Earth, approaching Nibiru or spaceships thousands of miles long 'hidden' in the rings of Saturn are not going to go unnoticed for long whatever government agencies try to do...

We must not forget the faces of ALL of those that DID come forward, only to be assassinated and forgotten. Because there are PLENTY.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn;528644
The whole thing is weird. It's like its happening then it is not happening when measured -- this sounds stupid but it really seems that way. Also consider the newly introduced 13th astrology sign. What was all that about? It was plastered all over MSM. The horoscope signs are based on the earth's procession being divided into 12 slices -- one for each horoscope sign. If suddenly there's 13, then room would have to made in the Earth's precession -- indicating a change in the precession. Maybe the Earth hasn't "tilted" but maybe the precession has changed somehow? What would spawn the need / desire to change the precessional based astrology? Here's one of the strangely vague MSM reports .... [URL="http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/"
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/[/URL]

I never bought in to or even considered this 13th sign being a part of the zodiac. It seemed like another new age invention to me at the time and still does... and kind of went in one ear and out the other.

Astrology is not a new age invention - it pre-dates everything. All major religions are tied to it, Satanists and cultists are tied to it and so are the elite and their sorcerers. You are missing the bigger picture, if the precession changed it would screw up the 2100 year "Ages" and the 26,000 year precession. The units of measure that are used to measure precession are astrological "Ages" -- therefore adding a 13th "Age" would fill in the gap created by a slowed precession. This is probably going over everyone's head ... oh well. I'm not really a "tilted" earth supporter - I just try to find the motivations for things.

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn;528644
The whole thing is weird. It's like its happening then it is not happening when measured -- this sounds stupid but it really seems that way. Also consider the newly introduced 13th astrology sign. What was all that about? It was plastered all over MSM. The horoscope signs are based on the earth's procession being divided into 12 slices -- one for each horoscope sign. If suddenly there's 13, then room would have to made in the Earth's precession -- indicating a change in the precession. Maybe the Earth hasn't "tilted" but maybe the precession has changed somehow? What would spawn the need / desire to change the precessional based astrology? Here's one of the strangely vague MSM reports .... [URL="http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/"
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/[/URL]

I never bought in to or even considered this 13th sign being a part of the zodiac. It seemed like another new age invention to me at the time and still does... and kind of went in one ear and out the other.

Astrology is not a new age invention - it pre-dates everything. All major religions are tied to it, Satanists and cultists are tied to it and so are the elite and their sorcerers. You are missing the whole point, if the precession changed it would screw up the 2100 year "Ages" and the 26,000 year precession. The units of measure that are used to measure precession are astrological "Ages" -- therefore adding a 13th "Age" would fill in the gap created by a slowed precession. This is probably going over everyone's head ... oh well. I'm not really a "tilted" earth supporter - I just try to find the motivations for things.

I know astrology is not a new age invention, lol, throwing in a 13th section in it as they tried to do recently is a new age concept in my opinion (that I was refering to)....it's silly to me to consider changing thousands of years of astrology because someone thinks it should be "13 slices now".

Where's the evidence that procession has changed? One would think if such a thing HAS occurred, it would be quite the news and all (most) astrologers and astronomers would be blown away and talking about it big time every where.....

It is not over my head and I am not "missing the point".....I just highly doubt what you are suggesting has actually happened.....it would be so noticeable that even most backyard astronomers would be needing to drastically change their telescope hardware/software programs to locate stars etc that have been in certain places for millions of years. It would be the talk of the town in my opinion if the wobble of the Earth changed that much to create a 13th slice in the zodiac.....over my head? perhaps....looking up!

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by DeDukshyn;528644
The whole thing is weird. It's like its happening then it is not happening when measured -- this sounds stupid but it really seems that way. Also consider the newly introduced 13th astrology sign. What was all that about? It was plastered all over MSM. The horoscope signs are based on the earth's procession being divided into 12 slices -- one for each horoscope sign. If suddenly there's 13, then room would have to made in the Earth's precession -- indicating a change in the precession. Maybe the Earth hasn't "tilted" but maybe the precession has changed somehow? What would spawn the need / desire to change the precessional based astrology? Here's one of the strangely vague MSM reports .... [URL="http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/"
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/13/horoscope-hang-up-earth-rotation-changes-zodiac-signs/[/URL]

I never bought in to or even considered this 13th sign being a part of the zodiac. It seemed like another new age invention to me at the time and still does... and kind of went in one ear and out the other.

Astrology is not a new age invention - it pre-dates everything. All major religions are tied to it, Satanists and cultists are tied to it and so are the elite and their sorcerers. You are missing the whole point, if the precession changed it would screw up the 2100 year "Ages" and the 26,000 year precession. The units of measure that are used to measure precession are astrological "Ages" -- therefore adding a 13th "Age" would fill in the gap created by a slowed precession. This is probably going over everyone's head ... oh well. I'm not really a "tilted" earth supporter - I just try to find the motivations for things.

I know astrology is not a new age invention, lol, throwing in a 13th section in it as they tried to do recently is a new age concept in my opinion (that I was refering to)....it's silly to me to consider changing thousands of years of astrology because someone thinks it should be "13 slices now".

Where's the evidence that procession has changed? One would think if such a thing HAS occurred, it would be quite the news and all (most) astrologers and astronomers would be blown away and talking about it big time every where.....

It is not over my head and I am not "missing the point".....I just highly doubt what you are suggesting has actually happened.....it would be so noticeable that even most backyard astronomers would be needing to drastically change their telescope hardware/software programs to locate stars etc that have been in certain places for millions of years. It would be the talk of the town in my opinion if the wobble of the Earth changed that much to create a 13th slice in the zodiac.....over my head? perhaps....looking up!

I didn't suggest anything had happened, and I'm not suggesting the earth has tilted (considering my last comment said that I don't support that theory ... ), but perhaps there's a lot of strangeness surrounding all this and that maybe a change in the precession has occurred (which is not the tilt). I merely tried to find the motivation in adding a 13th astrology sign. It clearly wasn't that just "some guy" liked 13 instead of 12, you can't have 13 without a massive change in our anciently established unit of measures called the "ages" ... this was attempted to be shoved down our throats by the elite controlled MSM. What is the reason? To make us believe the rotation of the earth has changed? If so ... why?

You clearly don't understand what I am saying a slowed precession would not be noticed to us for a while, as the precession takes 26,000 years ... best we just drop this lol. no offense intended. I'm never understood properly anyway so no worries, nothing new

[Sidney]

I happen to believe the earth HAS tilted. I have been an avid skywatcher for many years. At least 2 decades. And I am telling you the stars are differently situated now than they were a year ago. I sit out on my back deck almost every night for an hour or so, at roughly the same time usually, and yes I know the different seasons the sun is farthur north in the summer and the stars change the same way. BUT, this year, they are different. And there is sun on my hostas on the north side of my house where the sun has NEVER been before. EVER. That is why they were planted there over a decade ago, because hostas fry in direct sun. And they are in the sun. I have heard other people saying the same kind of thing. So if the earth hasn't shifted, then the sun has. Something odd is happening, and that something has been carefully kept out of mainstream science.

[LisAlien]

I often wonder, just like time seems to pass us quicker as we get older, maybe the Sun grows hotter (to us) as we age too. I mean, we're comparing everything to virtually a different person (someone younger) when we look back. Science does this too.

Now if I was this age and at this health level for the past several years I think I'd be able to give a better less biased objective assessment as to whether things are changing or not.

But as long as Humans change (grow) our prospective and positions change too, no? And if we change (age) isn't it fair to assume everything changes...... the Sun included?
I think we're looking for familiarity or even continuity in a ever changing existence. Even a rock changes in time. So I'm just not sure what we're REALLY experiencing when it comes to the Sun.
Interesting..................

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by LisAlien (here)
I often wonder, just like time seems to pass us quicker as we get older, maybe the Sun grows hotter (to us) as we age too. I mean, we're comparing everything to virtually a different person (someone younger) when we look back. Science does this too.

Now if I was this age and at this health level for the past several years I think I'd be able to give a better less biased objective assessment as to whether things are changing or not.

But as long as Humans change (grow) our prospective and positions change too, no? And if we change (age) isn't it fair to assume everything changes...... the Sun included?
I think we're looking for familiarity or even continuity in a ever changing existence. Even a rock changes in time. So I'm just not sure what we're REALLY experiencing when it comes to the Sun.
Interesting..................

I've found some info that leads me to believe that the magnetic and electrical activity from the sun dictates (or at least strongly influences) all that happens on earth. The Chinese have something called the gender birth calendar; it is about 85-90% accurate by scientific studies. The basis for that birth calendar is sunspot cycles on the sun. The Mayans also knew of this somehow as well. Recently MSM has been reporting our scientists are discovering that weather and earthquakes are strongly related to sunspot activities on the sun. Everyone seems to agree, but no one is willing to extrapolate on that further ... I think it is an important consideration.

On the "changing as we grow" topic, I have already tested part of that by getting children's feedback. When I was a kid, the sun had a yellowish hue as we all assume. Now there is no yellow at all - the sun is 100% pure white. My kids say it is pure white too, but I had to ask because I thought maybe my eyes have just gotten more sensitive as I age.

It is all very interesting ... something is definitely up, but the only definitive things seem to be that it is having a stronger effect - in both light and heat, these last few years. (and more solar activity)

My 2 cents

[WhiteFeather]

A Video To Watch By The Inuit (Native Aboriginal People) observing some changes with the sun/environment and possible axis tilt. Thus adding an extra 1 hr window of sunlight expansion.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_HZ_Dvkxi-8

[Mark]

That's an interesting video, WF, has been out for a while now. The climatological conditions they are referring to actually do point to an axial shift. The axis of the earth is tilted at 23 and 1/2 degrees generally, but it is known that is just an approximation. It ranges a few degrees over time. The kinds of changes they are speaking of have occurred within recent years, which implies a much quicker and more extreme shift.

Since axial shift affects the vertical position of the planet, how it would express itself on a sun dial would be to make the shadow longer in the northern hemisphere and shorter in the southern, and vice versa, depending upon the time of the year. It would not effect the horizontal positioning of the shadow at all, which might make it more difficult to notice unless very precise measurements of the shadow's length at particular times of day would have to be made and then compared to the shadow's length in years previous.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
That's an interesting video, WF, has been out for a while now. The climatological conditions they are referring to actually do point to an axial shift. The axis of the earth is tilted at 23 and 1/2 degrees generally, but it is known that is just an approximation. It ranges a few degrees over time. The kinds of changes they are speaking of have occurred within recent years, which implies a much quicker and more extreme shift.

Since axial shift affects the vertical position of the planet, how it would express itself on a sun dial would be to make the shadow longer in the northern hemisphere and shorter in the southern, and vice versa, depending upon the time of the year. It would not effect the horizontal positioning of the shadow at all, which might make it more difficult to notice unless very precise measurements of the shadow's length at particular times of day would have to be made and then compared to the shadow's length in years previous.

I Saw it back awhile ago as well. Thought I'd add it to this thread. The Aboriginal Peeps know their environment, dont they?

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
That's an interesting video, WF, has been out for a while now. The climatological conditions they are referring to actually do point to an axial shift. The axis of the earth is tilted at 23 and 1/2 degrees generally, but it is known that is just an approximation. It ranges a few degrees over time. The kinds of changes they are speaking of have occurred within recent years, which implies a much quicker and more extreme shift.

Since axial shift affects the vertical position of the planet, how it would express itself on a sun dial would be to make the shadow longer in the northern hemisphere and shorter in the southern, and vice versa, depending upon the time of the year. It would not effect the horizontal positioning of the shadow at all, which might make it more difficult to notice unless very precise measurements of the shadow's length at particular times of day would have to be made and then compared to the shadow's length in years previous.

I Saw it back awhile ago as well. Thought I'd add it to this thread. The Aboriginal Peeps know their environment, dont they?

I have noticed that there seems to be evidence for and evidence against, although all evidence for, so far, has been anecdotal. Perhaps we should be considering timeline reconciliations (merges), or the considering all the tiny earthquakes happening all over the world and the crackes opening up, that different areas are moving in different ways / speeds than others, but again this could be easily measured. There's something no doubt to that all but it seems elusive to nail down. Timeline mergers seem plausible to me for the anecdotal evidence " "the sun used to set here ..." - is all perceptual.

The topic is sure intriguing.

[9eagle9]

Portions of my garden aren't doing well, fried actually in a way that's never happened before. We've only had three good thunderstorms since the beginning of summer but I water everyday .

The sun seems very hot and clear, radiation is the right word but not in a nuke sense, can't describe it really. Doesn't drain me but wow my skin feels hot in it some days.. but no burns at all. I don't burn easily but I usually get some sort of over-sunnage here and there. It's not draining me, its rather nice actually especially now since we got some rain, but there's some days that a lot of the humidity in the air seems to be a buffer even though we typically are not fans of 95 degrees with high humidity. When I'm working outside anyway. If I'm not working the humidity and that heat really suck...the heat bothers me more indoors than it does when I'm outside in it.

Weirdly though when I work outside 8-12 hours a day in the past I'm pretty well a tired puppy when I get home and that's not happening anymore.

Even the humidity is weird. Over the weekend it was cool and overcast out in the low 70's and I was working up a sweat doing nothing overly strenuous in the shade. But I was cold....very weird.

Posted by RMorgan (here)
The sun down here in Brazil is becoming dangerous, really.

When I go outside at noon, I can really feel my skin burning.

Even my cactus plants, which never had problems with the sun, are getting toasted if exposed all day long.

The weather isn´t unusually hot, but the radiation is very intense.

Raf.

[9eagle9]

That might account for the strangely mild winter we had this last year, .... Not that I'm complaining .


I forgot to add the water evaporation effect is astonishing too.

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
That's an interesting video, WF, has been out for a while now. The climatological conditions they are referring to actually do point to an axial shift. The axis of the earth is tilted at 23 and 1/2 degrees generally, but it is known that is just an approximation. It ranges a few degrees over time. The kinds of changes they are speaking of have occurred within recent years, which implies a much quicker and more extreme shift.

Since axial shift affects the vertical position of the planet, how it would express itself on a sun dial would be to make the shadow longer in the northern hemisphere and shorter in the southern, and vice versa, depending upon the time of the year. It would not effect the horizontal positioning of the shadow at all, which might make it more difficult to notice unless very precise measurements of the shadow's length at particular times of day would have to be made and then compared to the shadow's length in years previous.

[DeDukshyn]

I'll say for the area I live in, the humidity this year has been extremely abnormally high. The air here is normally desert dry but it's been almost tropical thus far this year ... very weird.

[DeDukshyn]

Posted by WhiteFeather (here)

Posted by Rahkyt (here)
That's an interesting video, WF, has been out for a while now. The climatological conditions they are referring to actually do point to an axial shift. The axis of the earth is tilted at 23 and 1/2 degrees generally, but it is known that is just an approximation. It ranges a few degrees over time. The kinds of changes they are speaking of have occurred within recent years, which implies a much quicker and more extreme shift.

Since axial shift affects the vertical position of the planet, how it would express itself on a sun dial would be to make the shadow longer in the northern hemisphere and shorter in the southern, and vice versa, depending upon the time of the year. It would not effect the horizontal positioning of the shadow at all, which might make it more difficult to notice unless very precise measurements of the shadow's length at particular times of day would have to be made and then compared to the shadow's length in years previous.

I Saw it back awhile ago as well. Thought I'd add it to this thread. The Aboriginal Peeps know their environment, dont they?

They do indeed. Does anyone know what dialect these men are speaking in? I don't always trust subtitles 100% all the time.

[9eagle9]

Heightened ley line activity is intensifying the sun's ray or...the sun is agitating ley line activity.