The Shift: "We Are in 5 D" Dolores Cannon

[we-R-one]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Not really Raf. Physics has co-opted much of what it comes from, so to take the English word dimension and apply it differently is not great problem.

For example, symbols and meanings in mathematics/physics, or words.

Frequency can be exchanged for light color, temperature, acceleration, delta, velocity, or energetics..and also..ph and ionic charge level and electron volts. That's TEN different descriptive for ONE thing, depending on application.

Thus physics as messed up one term and called it all of those things, nearly interchangeably across many branches of physics. thus leading to a confusion in the public about what ANY of it means.

We're talking about one single word here, dimensions. Which on it's own has multiple applications within physics and mathematics and the English language.

Thus, to me, no great crime -or even remotely was a wrong- was committed.... that needs to be corrected.

Hey mate,

"Frequency can be exchanged for light color, temperature, acceleration, delta, velocity, or energetics..and also..ph and ionic charge level and electron volts. That's TEN different descriptive for ONE thing, depending on application."

It doesn´t change the fact that frequency is used to measure the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time, like the number of vibrations/cycles per second.

Dimensions, just like like frequencies, is a word that we´ve created to define spacial properties to make spacial measuring units possible, so we could measure things like we do today (x,y,z).

I hear you, but if you could explain me how and why someone first concluded that our consciousness is currently tri-dimensional, then I´ll openly accept this dimensional state of mind hypothesis.

Better yet, tell me how someone first measured consciousness and why he/she decided that using the world "dimensions" was the most accurate term to describe it.

Cheers,

Raf.

I understand what you're saying, but on the other hand are we not accepting the defintion of dimension based on a contrived and controlled belief system? So who is the official word police? Who dictates what the true meaning of dimension should be? Could you not say that the definition of dimension is purposefully being used in a context that fits the reality of what certain individuals want you to believe is true?

If we are to transition out of the current reality, one must consider redifining the meaning of such words,....otherwise how will we advance if we continue to keep our beliefs within the same confinements of dictated definitions?

[Mu2143]

10. It is an individual choice to go to 5D. Some will choose to stay with 3D earth.

Another lie ,because your part of this earth and if the earth shift to another dimension your going to have a hardtime breathing if it would be possible to stay behind.
But since this is not possible ,because our bodies are physically tuned to this earth frequency and our bodies are made from the earths matter.

[we-R-one]

Posted by Iceberg (here)
Thanks Raf for making it clear. People, imagine yourself on the first year of school and someone tells you "congratulations you have been graduated". So do you buy it?

Not so fast...let me reverse that question on you....in the same manner, you are "buying" into a current belief system that has been dictated to you as to being the one truth....so do you "buy it" because that is what someone is telling you to be the only truth?

[truthseekerdan]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)

10. It is an individual choice to go to 5D. Some will choose to stay with 3D earth.

Another lie ,because your part of this earth and if the earth shift to another dimension your going to have a hardtime breathing if it would be possible to stay behind.
But since this is not possible ,because our bodies are physically tuned to this earth frequency and our bodies are made from the earths matter.

For your information, the Earth is a multidimensional conscious being, just as "we are"...

http://www.mayamysteryschool.net/pdf...orJune2005.pdf

[RMorgan]

Posted by we-R-one (here)

I understand what you're saying, but on the other hand are we not accepting the defintion of dimension based on a contrived and controlled belief system? So who is the official word police? Who dictates what the true meaning of dimension should be? Could you not say that the definition of dimension is purposefully being used in a context that fits the reality of what certain individuals want you to believe is true?

If we are to transition out of the current reality, one must consider redifining the meaning of such words,....otherwise how will we advance if we continue to keep our beliefs within the same confinements of dictated definitions?

Hey mate,

This isn´t about a belief system, it´s about the essence of communication and language.

We have created words to communicate; the meanings of such words were agreed by the majority, otherwise, verbal and written communication wouldn´t be possible.

You can label a car as a refrigerator, but don´t expect to go to a car shop, ask the seller for a red refrigerator and be taken seriously.

You could simply throw your dictionary on the trash bin and invent a new meaning to every word, but then you can´t expect people to understand you when you try to communicate with them.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Mu2143]

Posted by truthseekerdan (here)

Posted by Mu2143 (here)

10. It is an individual choice to go to 5D. Some will choose to stay with 3D earth.

Another lie ,because your part of this earth and if the earth shift to another dimension your going to have a hardtime breathing if it would be possible to stay behind.
But since this is not possible ,because our bodies are physically tuned to this earth frequency and our bodies are made from the earths matter.

For your information, the Earth is a multidimensional conscious being, just as "we are"...

http://www.mayamysteryschool.net/pdf...orJune2005.pdf

I am talking about the physical body not the spiritual bodies.

[we-R-one]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
Hey mate,

This isn´t about a belief system, it´s about the essence of communication and language.

We have created words to communicate; the meanings of such words were agreed by the majority, otherwise, verbal and written communication wouldn´t be possible.

You can label a car as a refrigerator, but don´t expect to go to a car shop, ask the seller for a red refrigerator and be taken seriously.

You could simply throw your dictionary on the trash bin and invent a new meaning to every word, but then you can´t expect people to understand you when you try to communicate with them.

Cheers,

Raf.

I beg to differ. It is about a belief system and it's the very reason we are unable to advance. Change the way you think, and you change your reality and that has been scientifically proven. Many Avalon members have posted several points of reference demonstrating various examples. There are countless words that have several meanings, it's what you choose to believe to be true. That is not to say that all the meanings are incorrect. You have accepted the belief that your definition of dimension is the most accurate. By doing so, you confine yourself to a specific set of beliefs and therefore limit your possibilities.

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm thinking we're NOT in 5D yet. Our world is still violent, corrupt and deceitful. However, I believe that many people are aligning now with 5D, but they're not there yet either. How can negativity exist in higher vibrations WITHOUT transforming?

[truthseekerdan]

We are all multidimensional beings; we’ve just denied that part of ourselves through our
linear, institutional programming. Many are waking up and realizing there’s life after
death. In fact, that’s really the only life there is because the body is only temporary
housing. That also means, literally, that there’s light at the end of the tunnel. We need
only shed our self-imposed prison gowns to realize that we’ve all been fooled into fear
and intolerance as a control mechanism to keep us unaware and in the dark. This whole
3-D scenario was really only a program that was set up by low-vibration entities to feed
themselves and their very powerful institutions that are trying to control our current
master-slave reality. And in the end, we’re the students who -- to graduate to the next
level -- have to wake up, realize that the game’s over, and free ourselves from the shackles
of 3-D. That’s what the 2012 shift and multidimensionality is all about.

Source: http://www.mayamysteryschool.net/pdf...orJuly2005.pdf

[we-R-one]

Posted by RMorgan (here)
We have created words to communicate; the meanings of such words were agreed by the majority, otherwise, verbal and written communication wouldn´t be possible."

To prove my point further, who is "we"? I didn't know that I even had a choice as I've never been personally asked by the word police to define the English language? Did you? We as a society have rolled over on our backs and accepted what has been dictated to be one reality. The only way we can advance is if we defy the concepts of what is considered to be politically correct.

Raf, you're a smart guy and I do like a lot of what you say, but I think you're a bit off on this one in my point of view. This says to me that you are more comfortable within the confines of the matrix and the belief system that has been imposed on the masses as far as the contents of this particular topic. That's ok for some and that's your individual choice, but it's not the only choice.

[Wind]

There is something special about her. Whenever I feel distressed I just start to listen her interviews and suddenly I start to feel good. People like her give me hope. All that is happening is happening for a reason and nothing is insignificant!

Btw. here are dimensions/ densities according to RA (Law of One):

1D: Consciousness
2D: Growth
3D: Choice
4D: Love
5D: Wisdom
6D: Oneness
7D: Eternity

Notice that the densities have same colors as our chakras are. Earth is already in 4D, now we humans just need to make the jump to there. However most of humanity is still operating in 3D. And then there are us who are from 5D or 6D aiding mother Earth and it's people.

[Maunagarjana]

When talking about this stuff, the language is a problem and it creates a lot of confusion. I prefer the explanations given in The Law of One books, so I use "density" rather than "dimension". But, even then, the word density is being used differently than is commonly used in physics. We're talking metaphysics here. Maybe it would be better just to say "reality levels" or something like that. I don't see how people could possibly understand any of this stuff without reading the Law of One books. All five of the books are available free online in PDF format:

http://llresearch.org/library/the_la...f_one_pdf.aspx

[Flash]

Posted by RMorgan (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)

Not really Raf. Physics has co-opted much of what it comes from, so to take the English word dimension and apply it differently is not great problem.

For example, symbols and meanings in mathematics/physics, or words.

Frequency can be exchanged for light color, temperature, acceleration, delta, velocity, or energetics..and also..ph and ionic charge level and electron volts. That's TEN different descriptive for ONE thing, depending on application.

Thus physics as messed up one term and called it all of those things, nearly interchangeably across many branches of physics. thus leading to a confusion in the public about what ANY of it means.

We're talking about one single word here, dimensions. Which on it's own has multiple applications within physics and mathematics and the English language.

Thus, to me, no great crime -or even remotely was a wrong- was committed.... that needs to be corrected.

Hey mate,

"Frequency can be exchanged for light color, temperature, acceleration, delta, velocity, or energetics..and also..ph and ionic charge level and electron volts. That's TEN different descriptive for ONE thing, depending on application."

It doesn´t change the fact that frequency is used to measure the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time, like the number of vibrations/cycles per second.

Dimensions, just like like frequencies, is a word that we´ve created to define spacial properties to make spacial measuring units possible, so we could measure things like we do today (x,y,z).

I hear you, but if you could explain me how and why someone first concluded that our consciousness is currently tri-dimensional, then I´ll openly accept this dimensional state of mind hypothesis.

Better yet, tell me how someone first measured consciousness and why he/she decided that using the world "dimensions" was the most accurate term to describe it.

Cheers,

Raf.

Your definitions Raf seems to me to stem from a 3rd state of consciousness. And it is fine if understood from this point of view.

But who tells you that we live in 3D dimension? We may well not be.

From a 5th or 6th level state of consciousness, I bet anything that 5th and 6th dimensions/density are seen and lived as well. In 3D/3rd level of consciousness, we have a limited view/concept/living experience of our environment. Here we need definitions through exclusion.

In 5th and 6th level of consciousness, our consciousness is expanded and the physical aspects/abilities correlate... I bet.

It is all about expanding our consciousness and letting go of old 3D paradigms. imho

Edit: in fact, while writing, it became much clearer to me as well. 5-6th D/state of consciousness, here and now.

[Mark]

LOL Dimensions works just fine. Everybody who needs to understand it does understand it. Formal science is known for shifting and changing with the times and, even now, the meaning of dimension is shifting as ideas about multiple parallel universes and "branes" and "string theory" gain credence. For the conscious folks, using this terminology instead of the other one, "density", which generally means the same thing, gives them a nice visual.

The words get in the way. The limitations, meaning being held to be stone-like with no opportunity for shifting or changing is so left-brained and old school. Times are changing, words need to be able to take on more meanings and they do, in many languages that are polytonal, like asian languages or african languages, in nature. Generally mono-tonal languages like the European languages are a bit more stiff and formal. It is the idea behind them and how we utilize it in order to access them creatively and spiritually that matters.

For those who are able to.

[Mandala]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)

10. It is an individual choice to go to 5D. Some will choose to stay with 3D earth.

Another lie ,because your part of this earth and if the earth shift to another dimension your going to have a hardtime breathing if it would be possible to stay behind.
But since this is not possible ,because our bodies are physically tuned to this earth frequency and our bodies are made from the earths matter.

You are correct. Those with negative inclination will not go on to 5 D. Delores research has taken her all over the world and she has come to the conclusion with the knowledge reported by thousands of people that earth will transition by splitting into 2 earths. One taking a different timeline and a different dimensional transit into 5 d. Those whose vibration is high enough and have made the decision will go. Those unprepared will stay behind on 3 D earth.


Mu, I believe she is speaking of an earth split where the ones not going will stay on earth 3d.
4D is time and and a linear earth construct.

What she says is we already know and have made a choice. You have, I have, we all have. It will happen, whether we are on board with the change or not.

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Mu2143 (here)

10. It is an individual choice to go to 5D. Some will choose to stay with 3D earth.

Another lie ,because your part of this earth and if the earth shift to another dimension your going to have a hardtime breathing if it would be possible to stay behind.
But since this is not possible ,because our bodies are physically tuned to this earth frequency and our bodies are made from the earths matter.

IMO....Some are gearing up and changing their vibrational frequency's along with Gaia, as Gaia changes her frequency's. Gaia is now entering her new incarnation. Remember Earth is a living and breathing Organism. Some will remain with the old paradigm and old frequencys and perhaps not looking to shift just yet, which is ok....but some will venture into a newer realm in which we call the New Earth Paradigm...if you will.
Indeed Some aren't ready for these newer frequency's in their biological system as they have to be adjusted accordingly to ones ability and structuring to move forward. In words used by Dolores Cannon, we cannot be updated all of a sudden with these energies. It has to be a slow adjustment/adaptation or we are simply going to blow a fuse.

[Mandala]

Limor, I always value your opinion. Thank you.

[astrid]

LOL @ Mu2143

Our physical body might be planted here on earth, (well technically we have so much space and so little much matter than we are not actually touching anything at
all- ever, but i digress) , but we are made up of so much more than physical matter
... if we were just matter we would be dead, in the physical sense..

All our various other bodies, spirit body, light body soul body... are multidimensional..and elastic, depending on one's development.
We can send our consciousness across time and space,
that is what is actually going on when we intend, this has now all been
proven by various people.. its hardly news.
So the idea that we are only "here" on the earthly plane is way off,
unless you are dead, and very dead at that.

As for if we have all moved to 5D.. that would be asking how far can we
"reach" out.. on average?? To me this is an individual thing, but it will get
to a point where the frequencies are such that to remain behind and not
" go with the flow" will be very tough indeed.

It's one of those topics, issues, that people argue about until they are blue
in the face, until they actually experience it for themselves.
The earthly physical first layer is the see, touch, hear, smell, etc.. beyond that it gets harder to define and articulate,
so forget using your left brain analytics, you either experience it, or you don't.
And when you do, there is for sure no need, to even bother trying to justify, prove or disprove any of it.
When you know , you know and that is it.

One of the ways you can tell how far you are reaching out, is how far out you
can effect change, this is how remote healing works.
The more layers you can stretch out, the more complete the healing,as you are
able to effect all those layers.
My description is all way too simplistic, but just thought it worth adding some words here of own personal experience of dimensionality, as it stands to date.
But as it is a constantly unfolding process, there is no finite way to frame it,

Of late i have been practicing sitting in the various levels from 1 to 20, and its
pretty fascinating stuff. Each has its own frequency, colors, sounds and patterns,
and intensity. Certain levels i feel much more "at home " in, when i get into the
10-1.. I'm like feeling very heavy and everything is slowed down.
And from 15-20, i never want to leave, it's like flying, and total weightlessness.
Who knows how many levels there are, but for now, that's my current playground.

[lookbeyond]

Mandala, what about children, do you think they made the decision before they incarnated this time- how can it work - will families be separated? Is this what it means in the bible when it says one will be taken whilst another remains?

thanks to any responses, lookbeyond

[araucaria]

Language is usually inadequate to express our evolving perspectives, and creative writing is one way we have to express new ideas with old words. One of its favourite tools is analogy.

For an analogy of a simultaneous multidimensional universe, think of a TV producer with multiple screens showing different aspects of a live event, eg the opening of the Olympics. He has pictures of all of the ten thousand people filling the stadium, just some of them, and maybe just one face, all at the same time, and at the flick of a switch can change the focus for everyone. If he’s doing a good job, this will be in line with what the majority will be wanting to focus on, without actually knowing what, because they don’t know the plot in advance.

As I see it, we have been focusing on one small aspect and the amazing big picture is about to fill our screen.