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    Hello, Villagers.

    Thought I would try, yet one more time, to verbalize what has been happening here. and now. Things are happening so quickly and so rapid-fire that I can barely catch my breath or let a new realization settle before another one comes along. Memories are surfacing, and I don't mean from childhood 3D. Inner knowings are exploding, my being expanding, my gifts are beginning to surface, who I am is...sort of...making appearances.

    That's all that will come out right now.

    What an experience.

    Love you all,
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    ABob, re your post #17168,
    I agree whole heartedly.
    My own start on this path was in 1970 with a wonderful group of people who gathered every weekend and discussed very topic under the sun. There could be 2-3 people or 30 there, it didn't matter.
    All views were examined. No one was made to feel small or insignificant, no matter what topic you brought up.
    It was about growing and understanding,...and love.
    We called our meeting place Rivendell.
    They hold a special place in my heart, much like this place.

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    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

    I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

    It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

    Two films cover some aspects of this:

    The century of the self,



    And

    The American ruling Class:

    http://vimeo.com/46181665

    This second one..as listings go..this is the FIRST time I've seen the film available publicly, see it while you can. Interviews with the oligarchy directly, and their direct comments about what a ruling class is and that it exists. Including a direct question and answer on this, with Jim Baker. (the young guy asking this directly to Jim, has got this look on his face...'please don't kill me') The thing about the group of the 60's (as a direct question) being directly defeated is tackled head on. Within the first 10 minutes of the film, you've already got the direct reply of Kurt Vonnegut and Walter Cronkite, on this subject of a grouped and self aware-self interest oligarchy. Within 15 minutes you've got the direct answer from the head of the New York Times.

    Walter Cronkite, for example, directly states that we need more people who are just and fair minded to join up, as he feels it is necessary for this to happen, for any form of democracy to survive. The unspoken part is the thing of a slipping into fascism which can then and will further slide into totalitarianism and/or despotism, for history shows that fascism is invariably only an intermediary step toward a bloodbath of those natures.

    The problem being is that fascism is good at co-opting other forces and movements, in order to protect and cloak itself. When you understand that, you will come to the conclusion that fascism is a motion toward, a complex dance step toward the inevitable of a bloodbath. That it is a coordinated stage of a plan, nothing more. That fascism is not a final condition, it is too unbalanced for that to be a reality. Fascism is a 'motion toward' -- not a final state.

    The vast majority of the western world is now in the stage of fascism, so let that be your warning. To be clear, the short form of the encyclopedic definition of fascism, is: when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.

    Which is what we have now, in the western world. Depending on the given country, different stages of this exist. Some are closer to the finality of closing the doors on freedoms, some are less.
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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.
    division of Church and State was the remedy that allowed democracy to come into being,
    but now the pendulum has gone too far the other way....
    and what is needed is a division of Bank and State.

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    Quote Posted by Carmody (here)
    The American ruling Class:

    http://vimeo.com/46181665

    This second one..as listings go..this is the FIRST time I've seen the film available publicly, see it while you can. Interviews with the oligarchy directly, and their direct comments about what a ruling class is and that it exists. Including a direct question and answer on this, with Jim Baker. (the young guy asking this directly to Jim, has got this look on his face...'please don't kill me') The thing about the group of the 60's (as a direct question) being directly defeated is tackled head on. Within the first 10 minutes of the film, you've already got the direct reply of Kurt Vonnegut and Walter Cronkite, on this subject of a grouped and self aware-self interest oligarchy. Within 15 minutes you've got the direct answer from the head of the New York Times.

    Walter Cronkite, for example, directly states that we need more people who are just and fair minded to join up, as he feels it is necessary for this to happen, for any form of democracy to survive. The unspoken part is the thing of a slipping into fascism which can then and will further slide into totalitarianism and/or despotism, for history shows that fascism is invariably only an intermediary step toward a bloodbath of those natures.

    The problem being is that fascism is good at co-opting other forces and movements, in order to protect and cloak itself. When you understand that, you will come to the conclusion that fascism is a motion toward, a complex dance step toward the inevitable of a bloodbath. That it is a coordinated stage of a plan, nothing more. That fascism is not a final condition, it is too unbalanced for that to be a reality. Fascism is a 'motion toward' -- not a final state.

    The vast majority of the western world is now in the stage of fascism, so let that be your warning. To be clear, the short form of the encyclopedic definition of fascism, is: when corporate (money/finances) entities collude with the governing bodies in ways that are against the will of the public.

    Which is what we have now, in the western world. Depending on the given country, different stages of this exist. Some are closer to the finality of closing the doors on freedoms, some are less.
    Thanks for bringing this to our attention -- a very thoughtful exploration!

    At various times in my life, I've been exposed to both polarities. In the course of my professional career, for example, I had the opportunity to get a good look at particular segment of the de facto ruling class, and my impression was one of spiritual bankruptcy. Moreover, this metaphysical state was accompanied in most instances by a physical manifestation, characterized by a lack of Chi.

    I thought that the movie Zardoz did a very good job at portraying the ultimate fate of the elite. Worth watching, for those who never saw it, or even those who may want to revisit a rather prophetic examination of the potential endgame.

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    Just had to share. I believe! Hope it gets your creative juice flowing.

    Bob Ross has since passed away, his happy little trees live on!

    Love this Re-Mix!


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    source http://photography.nationalgeographi...-alpha-wolves/


    Thoughts when I see this picture. I see the peace in the eyes of the wolf on the right, the silent, still peace which is always there even when caught in the tiger's mouth.

    Or the wolf was a model in a previous incarnation and just somehow managed to nail the look for the photographer


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    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
    They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

    Thanks to all!

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    Quote Posted by dan33 (here)
    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
    They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

    Thanks to all!
    Now you know what it is and it sounds treatable! You can move forward in the right direction! Best of luck to Hugo and thanks for the update Dan. Blessing to you and yours!

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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    I'm working my as off. Regular 9 to 5 and now more side jobs than I can handle. I'm gonna make myself sick if I don't slow down - I feel it coming....

    It is not hard to see that this job has done wonders for me, and it seems like work will not run out with this company for a few years. These last two months has improved my stamina and overall muscular strength. The extreme heat has caused me to sweat for ten hours a day and my body took the opportunity to excrete a great deal of toxins that have built up over the years.

    This experience reminds me of the time I stopped driving. That time I was forced to carry my tools and materials on my back to survive and my legs and back got very strong. So much so that now I can bound up the stairs of the condo we're building even better than the twenty year olds can (and I am a thirty year smoker, but you'd never know it). I started this job with the sorest muscles, I'll admit, but I used meditation (every morning) to soothe, strengthen and rejuvinate my muscles and joints - I actually can rid myself of any pain in less than twenty minutes of meditation.

    Perhaps the most significant change has been my ability to keep my emotions in check (most times at least) and to foster a positive mental attitude in general. I do not approve of work in this world because of the overcurrent of exploitation that often rides along with it. I do not like being used as a slave, and nothing really has changed in that area - only my attitude toward it. The job is secondary, my work is primary. And I have a whole group of unsuspecting innocents to administer to.

    Without much effort on my part, except to always be helpful and understanding (my nickname at work is "Ernesto, The Great"), my coworkers have learned that I have knowledge in many areas beyond electrical and have come asking for my opinion on many issues. Some of these are: the current financial situation, how to cancel all debt, the Freeman movement, spiritual advancement and experiences, even dream analysis (which I'm not that good with, since I don't like to dream, but by opening myself to the Source I can offer bits of wisdom), ongoing political wranglings, and world events from the perspective of truth as apposed to the spin of propaganda, etc.

    I'm not saying I have created converts, I am saying I have sown the seed of truth, which is my purpose. And here's the rub - whenever I start on one of these topics I always think of my friends here and try to emulate as much as possible your understandings and advanced wisdom, which I like to think I share to some degree. So thanks for that. I will never forget all you wonderful people - even when I'm worked to the bone and cannot find the energy or time to keep up with all the goings on in the here and now.

    And my attitude? What has changed? Well, that's easy. I used to and still do hate this modern world. But what I have realized is that I LOVE LIFE! I love this life. I love the tremendous potential that from time to time peeps through this human construct. I love the children, and the innocent adults, and the trees and flowers and birds. I love the sun and the moon and the stars. I love this earth, our mother. I just love the natural world! I'm in love with life! I wish we could live in a world where I could love our society as well - and that is my purpose. To use truth to plant the seeds of a future world where I can honestly say - I love this modern world and everything in it. That is my dream and my ambition and my goal. I have no other.

    I march into the future with no fear and full of the verve that is the signature of all life.

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    Quote Posted by another bob (here)
    The above views on the counter cultural movement of the 60s may be humorous, but they actually demonstrate how successful the PTB were in marginalizing and neutering a developing consciousness and commual-based movement that actually had little to do with what is represented now as "Hippies". Instead, the real movement was like a stream that slipped beneath the surface and out of sight (no pun). I've been tracking it, and these days it resembles more the self-sufficient recluse movement of early Chinese Taoism, crossed with Native American Shamanism. You won't find it in the MSM, or even much in the so-called Alt. community (which is now heavily infested). There are still signs that I find here at this oasis we call Avalon, little streams that could eventually connect and join into a river of life to nourish the arid landscape of materialistic desperation and religious provincialism. That is the true revolution -- consciousness itself becoming fully self-aware in form.

    I was lucky enough to be in San Francisco in the early to mid-60s, and was in awe of the potential I witnessed, only to be dismayed as I watched it get ripped off by the same forces that have fractured, divided, and pretty much conquered the current elements of an alternative possibility. It was never about drugs and sex and rock 'n roll, or anti-establishment politics. That was all a bunch of BS infused by very clever manipulation, to cast a huge smoke cloud (no pun) over a movement in consciousness that was indeed truly threatening, because if people were to awaken on a mass scale to their true identity and power as immortal spiritual beings, the whole oppressive architecture so carefully constructed over centuries by the dark ones would be relegated to a swift obsolescence.

    It can still happen. It's in the hands of each one of us.

    When I read this, I think that my parents must have been part of this movement that went underground eventually. Here in the Netherlands there was the movement of the PROVO's mostly in Amsterdam. My parents weren't part of that, but they were some sort of hippies (without the drugs, sex and rock'n roll part) and they started one of the first whole sale food shops in the Netherlands (Utrecht). Happy memories, playing in that shop and smelling the exotic flavours of the food that was being prepared there. The idea of healthy food in that time was somewhat Neanderthal like, so there would have been a few people that broke their teeth on what was offered as lunch haha.

    Uplifting to read how you set the record straight on this one Bob.


    edit to add:

    Viral & Calz Nice to see you here again!

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    This must be a Wanderer





    Quote A runaway tabby cat has survived a 2,000-mile journey from Turkey to Kent hidden in a lorry.

    The six-week-old kitten used one of her nine lives to survive the gruelling road journey which began in the Turkish capital, Ankara.

    The tabby, named Yonda, was only discovered nine days later when workers from logistics company Davies Turner emptied the delivery trailer at a depot in Dartford.

    Another cat was also found on board, but was seriously ill and died.

    Yonda has now been sent to the Animal Inn near Deal, Kent, where she will spend six months in quarantine.

    Cats Protection, in Croydon, south London, plans to rehouse the feline and has launched an appeal for funds to pay for her quarantine costs.

    Heather McCann, of Cats Protection, said: "Yonda has had quite a journey.

    "She was apparently very timid and frightened at first, but thanks to the vigilance and kindness of everyone at Davies Turner, she is now doing well in the comfort of the Animal Inn.

    http://news.sky.com/story/967295/pus...rns-up-in-kent

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    Quote Posted by noxon medem (here)
    ..
    -

    watching the olympics, peaceful competition, and fair ..

    thinking of this :


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=aj5Cvz4PnZw
    ( Bruce Springsteen - War (Live 1988) )

    &

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk
    ( "War" by Edwin Starr (Original Video - 1969) )

    and

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bjPqsDU0j2I
    ( Electric Light Orchestra - Mr Blue Sky )

    be well





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    What sounds better, the music or the needle?


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    There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
    So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going), I get confused sometimes..... is this a trick from the subconscious, where I'm still suppressing, or is this the real deal?
    As I was driving to the Netherlands yesterday to collect my son who was staying with his grandparents, pondering about this.... I didn't ask for a sign, but I got one nonetheless.

    Doing 125 km/h (80 mph) where 80 km/h (50 mph) was allowed, thinking about the techniques (Forgot to notice that the highway was slowing down the speed limit in 2 stages), there was a patrol car entering in the rear view mirror pulling up behind me.
    I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

    So I became at peace with the situation and was even slightly interested to what this experience would be like, welcoming it almost.
    The officer didn't pull me over, but steered his car next to mine and as we looked at each other, he nodded at me and drove of.

    What exactly prevented the officer to pull me over and take my drivers licence, is food for speculation of course, but it is easy to speculate that my attitude influenced the course of the event energetically.




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    Quote Posted by dan33 (here)
    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
    They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

    Thanks to all!
    So this is good news then?
    Now you know what is going on, and it is treatable.

    all the best energy your way Dan and Hugo!
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    [QUOTE=Wakytweaky;530374]

    I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.




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    Quote Posted by dan33 (here)
    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    Thanks to all!
    Just a little comment, Walkytweaky, if it can be helpful, but it seem to me that you are not mentioning emotions here, but what you are telling yourself during or before the emotions arise. This, to me, seems different from emotions.

    For example, I would tell myself "Oh my Gosh, my daughter's father is still in a tweaked (lol) mood, he will be difficult to handle" then the emotion arising from it is either fear, disapointment or anger. It does help for me to name the emotion directly, because it is often the first thing I feel, even if my mind has been running amock with little develish sentences for a while beforehand.

    And what I tell/told myself will impact on what is happening in the given situation in terms or emotions. For example, if I replace the sentence by "Oh, (take off my Gosh to take off the intensity) "Oh, my daughter's father seems (not is) in a tweaked mood, what will I do to handle it?" you see, it change the perspective and my emotions are then may be still disapointment, then bits of sadness for the situation, then a feeling of empowerment because I can do something

    I realised a while ago that to change the situation and the emotion, I would have to change what I tell myseif, my selftalk. I also realised that if the emotions arising are not clearly named, they will bottle up instead of changing, and the overall work will be kind of wasted.

    I hope this help.

    So, walkytweaky, what were the emotion going with the self talk?

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    Quote Posted by dan33 (here)
    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    This may explain their lack of weight. The result is 20 (positive from 3 on the analysis).
    They say that half the planet has it (many people have inactive) .

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    Yeah! to Hugo, Inés, and Daniel.
    If memory serves, just a month's worth of meds will rid that story. Thanks for the update.

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    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
    So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going)
    Hi Waky,


    Most often that's exactly how it happens. Feelings arise and move within seconds, although I am reluctant to say that usually because it can lead to the seeking to process a feeling very quickly and as soon as you are seeking to do that, you are not allowing the feeling just to be and arise as how it needs to.

    When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.




    Quote I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.
    This is good, shows that your awareness is expanding and in that you are able to be aware of much more detail and sensitivity.

    I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.

    Our feelings don't cause us suffering, it's the story attached to them.

    You can use your attention with precision to focus directly on the feeling just as you would if you were in a room where you were aware things were going on but you had a very precise task to do like thread a needle; your surroundings would fade as your attention zoomed in on the eye of the needle.

    A feeling is energy. Attention is energy. Energy moves energy so expect the feeling may move and you may need to move your attention where it goes. It is only your mind that tells you that you are limited to your body and therefore holds the feeling (energy) inside. When you stop paying attention to the mind and being led by it, then the energy can freely move around the whole of you - everywhere.


    This is powerful, transformational work.


    Jeanette

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    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    Doing 125 km/h (80 mph) where 80 km/h (50 mph) was allowed, thinking about the techniques (Forgot to notice that the highway was slowing down the speed limit in 2 stages), there was a patrol car entering in the rear view mirror pulling up behind me.
    I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.

    So I became at peace with the situation and was even slightly interested to what this experience would be like, welcoming it almost.
    The officer didn't pull me over, but steered his car next to mine and as we looked at each other, he nodded at me and drove of.

    What exactly prevented the officer to pull me over and take my drivers licence, is food for speculation of course, but it is easy to speculate that my attitude influenced the course of the event energetically.
    I'll take a stab at it.

    You were unplugged from the 3D world of cause and effect. The willingness to let go of the illusionary physical world to watch from the greater perspective allowed the officer to be on his way.

    (You were not the experience or experiencer. You were the watcher of experiencing.) .


    UPDATE: I didn't realize that Flash and Jenci had already posted. Going back up to read.
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    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)

    I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.




    edit to add:

    Quote Posted by dan33 (here)
    Hi Village!
    Hugo has benn positive on HELICOBACTER http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori

    Thanks to all!
    Just a little comment, Walkytweaky, if it can be helpful, but it seem to me that you are not mentioning emotions here, but what you are telling yourself during or before the emotions arise. This, to me, seems different from emotions.

    For example, I would tell myself "Oh my Gosh, my daughter's father is still in a tweaked (lol) mood, he will be difficult to handle" then the emotion arising from it is either fear, disapointment or anger. It does help for me to name the emotion directly, because it is often the first thing I feel, even if my mind has been running amock with little develish sentences for a while beforehand.

    And what I tell/told myself will impact on what is happening in the given situation in terms or emotions. For example, if I replace the sentence by "Oh, (take off my Gosh to take off the intensity) "Oh, my daughter's father seems (not is) in a tweaked mood, what will I do to handle it?" you see, it change the perspective and my emotions are then may be still disapointment, then bits of sadness for the situation, then a feeling of empowerment because I can do something

    I realised a while ago that to change the situation and the emotion, I would have to change what I tell myseif, my selftalk. I also realised that if the emotions arising are not clearly named, they will bottle up instead of changing, and the overall work will be kind of wasted.

    I hope this help.

    So, walkytweaky, what were the emotion going with the self talk?
    Thank You FLash,

    It's true that I'm not sure to what exactly happens and what to call the different stages of the process.

    To point it back at what happened with the speeding and the patrol officer:
    I felt and spark (physical sensation of energy) that was coming from somewhere in the gut or stomach, rising up to the chest and head, becoming a picture of what will maybe happen (thought or just a mental picture?) and this is accompanied with a feeling of building fear and panic (emotion?).
    It might be that I'm telling myself: Oops, I'm busted etc..., but I experience it as a mental picture mostly and I merely tried to give words to it.
    So what is it... telling myself something, mental picture, thoughts? I get confused about these things


    If I'm correct, what you are talking about is a form of NLP (neuro linguistic programming) which is a technique that is aiming to change the experience that you are having.
    What I talk about is a technique that is aiming to allow all that presents itself to us (thoughts, feelings and emotions) to be there, without judging it or identifying with it. Just let it flow through us and allowing it free passage as one would with a bird flying bye.
    How we play with this are different techniques if I'm not mistaken.

    I recently talked to someone here on the forum who practices both techniques at the same time actually and he teaches it to friends and family with success.
    I still have my reservations about this for myself, but it seems to be working for others.

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    Quote Posted by Jenci (here)
    Quote Posted by Wakytweaky (here)
    There is still doubt in me sometimes, as to the appliance of the exercises offered bye Eckhart. I have a history of suppressing my feelings and emotions. I was an am very good at that.
    So, when I let 'everything that is, to be' , and it happens very rapid and quickly (emotions rising and going)
    Hi Waky,


    Most often that's exactly how it happens. Feelings arise and move within seconds, although I am reluctant to say that usually because it can lead to the seeking to process a feeling very quickly and as soon as you are seeking to do that, you are not allowing the feeling just to be and arise as how it needs to.

    When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.




    Quote I immediately felt 4 emotions/thoughts sparking of from the gut... one at the time, travelling upwards... (oops, I'm busted..........I'm going to pay lots of money for this,....... this will cost me my driving licence,........ how will I get to where I want to go without my car today?)
    I was able to make peace with the feeling/thought as it rose and as soon as it came, the soon it left me... all four of them.
    This is good, shows that your awareness is expanding and in that you are able to be aware of much more detail and sensitivity.

    I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.

    Our feelings don't cause us suffering, it's the story attached to them.

    You can use your attention with precision to focus directly on the feeling just as you would if you were in a room where you were aware things were going on but you had a very precise task to do like thread a needle; your surroundings would fade as your attention zoomed in on the eye of the needle.

    A feeling is energy. Attention is energy. Energy moves energy so expect the feeling may move and you may need to move your attention where it goes. It is only your mind that tells you that you are limited to your body and therefore holds the feeling (energy) inside. When you stop paying attention to the mind and being led by it, then the energy can freely move around the whole of you - everywhere.


    This is powerful, transformational work.


    Jeanette
    Ohhh Jenci,

    What are you doing to me.
    You get me all confused again

    Well.. food for reflection actually.
    This is very useful to me... like always.

    Quote I would say though that these were feelings with a story attached to them. The story is the thought which is describing the feeling which is arising in the body and this occurs in the mind and if you are paying attention to why you are feeling like this, then you are giving your mind attention as well as the feeling. If you can get to the place where all attention is on the feeling, this will be most helpful. So, if the story arises which says "I am feeling like this because", then just acknowlege it as a thought in the mind and shift your attention back to the feeling.
    This here might be just the thing I have to master and at the same time, it just might be one of the hardest things to do for me.
    I am such a dweller of the mind...
    But I do know now what the difference is.

    Quote When you start to see how feelings move in this space of allowing, you will wonder why you ever spent a lifetime (lifetimes) resisting or grasping them.
    exactly! sometimes it looks so absurd to me that I have put so much energy in resistance in the past. I mean... I really stretched this game to it's limits I guess. That's why the story of the two wolves feels so important to me now. I was already aware of many things in me, but I fed the wrong wolf with my attempts to wrestle the diagnosed behaviours and self images out of me. This went on for about 20 years...
    I can not begin to tell how releaving it feels that I'm finally start to do the things in a way that works.

    Quote Posted by WhiteCrowBlackDeer (here)

    I'll take a stab at it.

    You were unplugged from the 3D world of cause and effect. The willingness to let go of the illusionary physical world to watch from the greater perspective allowed the officer to be on his way.

    (You were not the experience or experiencer. You were the watcher of experiencing.) .


    jeej

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