Military Gives Warning to Coastal Dependants

[Hervé]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
Latest from Tolec with regard to an asteroid headed this way:

URL: http://andromedacouncil.com/FAQ-FrequentQuestions.html

More nonsense from Tolec (who can be completely disregarded, btw). Any asteroid "out around Pluto" (and what's an asteroid doing way out there?!) would take a very long time to head this way indeed, and its orbit would need to be exceptionally and almost impossibly oblique in order to do so.

"The very near future" does not cut it... even if the object is a comet, which fits his description a lot better.

Totally agree, Bill.

Yesterday I dropped by this thread and thought "Tolec and/or his "Andromedan" scientific advisors need to go back to school for a refresher...."

What prompted that thought was the mention of "tremors and magma flow under the Earth's crust." Well, besides this happening all the time 24/7/365.25/year every year; there is no mention those would be due to the alleged asteroid near-miss.

Moreover, since the combination of Moon + Sun CANNOT be statistically correlated to ANY of the volcanic activities taking place on Earth (not for lack of multitudes having attempted to do so); what effect could a puny asteroid have on those? Infinitely small zilch, nada, nothing!

Now, John Moore... after his attempt to scare eveyone with El Hierro last year (confusing it with La Palma and according to his "sources"), which completely fizzled out; he is back at it with a new Elenin.

If one takes a good look at his map and try to correlate it to the passage of a puny or even a substantial celestial body and there is a major cognitive dissonance being displayed: all of the US coasts are affected!



The only possible way this could happen in one shot, and not as separate events, is if the Equatorial water bulge of the Earth suddenly passes through the middle of the US. In that case, one would have to worry about a lot more than getting on higher grounds since it implies a major axial pole shift.

Else, the US and Canada sunk which is difficult to comprehend since both are still affected by "glacial rebound," i.e. the whole continent is still rising up from being pushed down from the ice weight of the last glaciation.

Tectonic activity would affect one coastal area, not all of them.

Accordingly, I can only conclude that the map presented is a composite one from a "vision" in which time has been compressed at a ratio of say 1 second = 1000 years since "time," "out there," doesn't really exist....

[turiya]

From this posted message you can see where ex-Marine & radio show host, John Moore, is getting his so-called "intel" from on this matter - this source looks to be James McCanney as suggested by Tbar1984 within his video.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...005#post523005

Cheers - turiya
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Posted by Amzer Zo (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by turiya (here)
Latest from Tolec with regard to an asteroid headed this way:

URL: http://andromedacouncil.com/FAQ-FrequentQuestions.html

More nonsense from Tolec (who can be completely disregarded, btw). Any asteroid "out around Pluto" (and what's an asteroid doing way out there?!) would take a very long time to head this way indeed, and its orbit would need to be exceptionally and almost impossibly oblique in order to do so.

"The very near future" does not cut it... even if the object is a comet, which fits his description a lot better.

Totally agree, Bill.

Yesterday I dropped by this thread and thought "Tolec and/or his "Andromedan" scientific advisors need to go back to school for a refresher...."

What prompted that thought was the mention of "tremors and magma flow under the Earth's crust." Well, besides this happening all the time 24/7/365.25/year every year; there is no mention those would be due to the alleged asteroid near-miss.

Moreover, since the combination of Moon + Sun CANNOT be statistically correlated to ANY of the volcanic activities taking place on Earth (not for lack of multitudes having attempted to do so); what effect could a puny asteroid have on those? Infinitely small zilch, nada, nothing!

Now, John Moore... after his attempt to scare eveyone with El Hierro last year (confusing it with La Palma and according to his "sources"), which completely fizzled out; he is back at it with a new Elenin.

If one takes a good look at his map and try to correlate it to the passage of a puny or even a substantial celestial body and there is a major cognitive dissonance being displayed: all of the US coasts are affected!

The only possible way this could happen in one shot, and not as separate events, is if the Equatorial water bulge of the Earth suddenly passes through the middle of the US. In that case, one would have to worry about a lot more than getting on higher grounds since it implies a major axial pole shift.

Else, the US and Canada sunk which is difficult to comprehend since both are still affected by "glacial rebound," i.e. the whole continent is still rising up from being pushed down from the ice weight of the last glaciation.

Tectonic activity would affect one coastal area, not all of them.

Accordingly, I can only conclude that the map presented is a composite one from a "vision" in which time has been compressed at a ratio of say 1 second = 1000 years since "time," "out there," doesn't really exist....

[lindabaker]

Did the originator of this story say that his contact said "Nibiru" SPECIFICALLY? Perhaps there are other reasons that military families are being told to get away from the coast or coasts. If it was a warning about all US coasts, maybe they think or know that we will have another axis shift (which caused the Dec. 26 tsunami) or, maybe they are expecting the Caribbean plate to subduct. Was it East Coast of the US in the warning? The Caribbean plate has activated...a volcano in central america has "awoken." Take a look at the N. American map on USGS. Here is a link: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak.../N_America.php

Perhaps it's not Nibiru but a big concern about other geophysical pending events...

[Maia Gabrial]

And it could be the photon belt we're passing through having all kinds of effects on the Earth....

[turiya]

Kerry Cassidy's interview with DR. SASHA LESSIN... (below)
Kerry is trying to get Deagle on for an interview on this coming Wednesday's radio show.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XfIcLyQOJY8

turiya

[turiya]

More on John Moore's radio announcement on Planet 'X' & now with Dr. Bill Deagle:

Dr. Bill Deagle July 20, 2012 audio mp3 interview with John Moore [B]
Hour 2: http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=59824
Hour 3: http://www.twowitnesses.us/dr_bill_deagle_03_07_20.MP3

[Mandala]

Dr Bill was interesting in his perspectives. He mentioned that a Brazilian astronomer had stepped up to say that we did have an incoming large body. John also said that the military dependents which attended the briefing were only a small percent of those who were responsible for continuity of government. So it's not all costal military dependents only a small number, which makes this story more credible. I hate dates, but the 2 that were given, we're August 17 and September 26th. Dr. Bill said they might be giving these out as false information to test the water and see how the public reacts. Dr Bill also said this object has been tracked for years from the South pole. There was also a mention of a third source being from a foreign government who corroborated the information.

Thanks for posting the link to the radio show.

[Mandala]

I believe Bill Ryan knows Dr. Deagle. He might be able to give us some insight on his opinions/thoughts.

[Mandala]

Posted by lindabaker (here)
Did the originator of this story say that his contact said "Nibiru" SPECIFICALLY? Perhaps there are other reasons that military families are being told to get away from the coast or coasts. If it was a warning about all US coasts, maybe they think or know that we will have another axis shift (which caused the Dec. 26 tsunami) or, maybe they are expecting the Caribbean plate to subduct. Was it East Coast of the US in the warning? The Caribbean plate has activated...a volcano in central america has "awoken." Take a look at the N. American map on USGS. Here is a link: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak.../N_America.php

Perhaps it's not Nibiru but a big concern about other geophysical pending events...

Lindabaker, in that last link to Dr Bills radio show, it was mentioned that it might be flooding affecting the east/northeast coast of US. He mentioned Canary Islands, but you are right , the Carribean is also getting "hot".

[turiya]

More from Tbar1984...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K9KuKNSSwGo

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uMf_uGBKTOg

[Operator]

Posted by Mandala (here)
Lindabaker, in that last link to Dr Bills radio show, it was mentioned that it might be flooding affecting the east/northeast coast of US. He mentioned Canary Islands, but you are right , the Carribean is also getting "hot".

Interesting you used the word "hot" ... I had an interesting alternative idea here (related to temperature):
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...623#post527623

Although a quake in the Caribbean could be closer to home for me it could still be better than what I postulated in that post ...

[xbusymom]

am in Norfolk area; DIL is in military and nothing has been said directly, but she recently decided to get 2 handguns for herself, a pistol for my son, and ammo making equipment, and has been spending a lot of time at the range (she even asked me who is totally against guns- if I wanted to join in)...

so... you do the math...

[turiya]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LKrVnaVCE00

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nGg4xquMszY

[turiya]

07/25/2012 Wednesday - Kerry's very special guests tonight were John Moore, Mike Harris and Clif High.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...32k-072512.mp3

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

I'm fully aware of this warning by John Moore a few weeks ago, and as you may have read from the posts above I pretty much dismissed it.

Two days ago (3 August), Moore again appeared on the final hour of Dr Bill Deagle's radio show. The audio is here:

http://archives2012.gcnlive.com/Arch...al/0803123.mp3

He claimed he was again receiving urgent updates from inside sources -- and that military bases on the east coast were currently being evacuated. The threat was unclear (at least, to me) -- but 'Dr Bill' seemed to think that this was connected with the relatively close fly-by of a massive astronomical object. (This is unconnected with NEO [near earth object] asteroid 2012DA14. This is only 45 meters long, and its own near miss is scheduled for February 2013.)

The only other web references for this are on Godlike Productions -- which I kind of hate to reference here, as it's usually so crazy, unpleasant, and full of anonymously sourced misinformation. But this thread may possibly be useful. Various posters with military connections have stated there that these evacuations were NOT happening... but, on the other hand, one or two others offered evidence which appeared to confirm the story.

http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1945704/pg1

John Moore's claims are important and, if legitimate, can be verified. You can't hide major military evacuations for long. They'd be visible to the public -- and military family members would soon be leaking the information everywhere. So the truth may become clear in the next week or so.

Even if there's a 1% chance that this is real, I think we need to know a little more. So I'm asking smart Avalon researchers here to see if they can dismiss the story once and for all -- or find some confirmation. I know some people who are very worried about this, and I'd like to prove to them that it's yet one more silly-season story. At the moment, I can't quite do that.

My thanks to all. I look forward to reading what you can dig up.

[mountain_jim]

From Gordon Duff at Veterans Today, who references these rumors (article dated 8/04) without providing sourcing either.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08...el-and-rumors/

MORE

Beyond this, troop movement “drills” inside the US could have a variety of meanings behind them. I will give all the possible answers:

■Preparation for a major attack on the government by foreign terrorist groups or allies pretending to be such after the election.
■Unconfirmed rumors of a major cosmic event which could generate natural disasters on a global scale.


What we have are a number of coastal military commands moving equipment, relocating, leaking announced plans for closure, if this is a “drill,” it is the strangest one in history.

For a bit of closure, two other issues need mentioning. Communications in the US are either suffering from the worst solar flares in history or something sinister is going on.

No guessing from me on this one

[huyi82]

Posted by Snowbird (here)
This stems from the destructive timeline. Embrace destruction, and it will be yours. Embrace a positive and loving future, and this will be yours.

John Moore appears to be a man of God....not my God.

agreed, it's quite sad to see topics about death and destruction every day on project avalon, we are all here to learn and spiritually grow, how can we progress if we are leading off to self destruction?

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi again, All:

I've been reading the GLP thread with my eyebrows raised a couple of millimeters. It's actually got some interesting information. Caveat, health warning, discernment, etc... but it may be worth looking at for a few minutes.

My own Spidey sense tells me that there may be something happening or about to happen... even if it's not what John Moore believes.

Back to GLP. There are a lot of people calling BS (not always very politely ) -- and many who took steps to check directly with friends and family in the military have reported that everything is normal.

On the other hand, there is evidence of some unusual activity. There are some heavy-duty movements of military equipment and personnel. One anonymous poster, in particular, seemed very credible. His three posts are on page 8 (see below), and if genuine, are of great interest.

The following posts are the interesting ones, copied from the various pages of the GLP thread:

page 1

Last Saturday, a close friend of mine went to a Gun Show in Eastern Tennessee. While there, he was talking to a vendor who was with the National Guard. After a long conversation, this vendor told my friend that his Guard unit was being called up on August 15 to help deal with an imminent "Natural Disaster" and it was his understanding that this "natural disaster" would include a large tsunami hitting the East Coast.

That is all he would say and my friend immediately called me and asked if I had heard or read anything about this. I directed them to the John Moore show where he discusses August 17 sighting of a near passing planetary object. Maybe the government is anticipating massive earthquakes and a meteor strike from this object in the Atlantic Ocean.

In that show, he said all of North Carolina East of the Blue Ridge Parkway would be under water or, at the very least, effected by this tsunami. We live just West of the Blue Ridge Parkway so I was somewhat relieved to hear that. Now I guess we should brace for the refugees to come here.

page 2

I mentioned this in another thread, the director of my department and his reserve unit got called up to active duty yesterday. He is an M.I. officer. On his way out the door he told us to fasten our seat belts, the **** is getting ready to hit the fan.

page 2

Moore says his friend Tim Harris received the same evacuation info from a Navy Seal.

page 8

1st message:

I can verify this. All I can say is: 08-06-2012 16:00 E.S.T
the move will begin.Stay safe and make sure to stock up this weekend for any things you do not already have.

2nd message:

Pay your bills,unless you need that money for food,water,gas,generator,etc etc. If you do need those things buy them TODAY. These things will be more important than your bills at this time,however this is not an event that will let you escape your bills.

3rd message (in response to requests to say more):

It took me long enough to get the courage to post what I did. I am not comfortable posting further details. There are posts in this thread however that are right on the money.

page 11

Holy **** my dad just called me. Told me to get back to arizona fast. Fwiw he is a lt col. We have not spoken in 2 years.

page 11

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but on his radio show last night Hawk basically said almost the same thing as John Moore. He didn't mention John Moore but said that he had both Navy and Marine corps contacts who had told him this:

- Norfolk has been ordered to take everything out to sea.

- Camp Lejeune and Fort Bragg have been ordered to move their equipment/missile batteries to somewhere around Philadelphia.

- They were told that this is due to some coming Earth changes or Earth changing event. They were told this would happen within the next two weeks.

You can listen to last night's show here:

http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/sur...ive/080312.mp3

At 3:00 in he starts talking about this info.

I advise great discretion here. Just giving you researchers on Avalon something to work on. I'm very keen to have this all dismissed -- if it deserves it.

The only interesting thing I can report myself is that a good friend, who is exceptionally psychic and able, told me that two days ago they got a 'message' to do everything they could to persuade a particular person they know to leave the US by the end of August. Go figure. (My friend is fully intending to act on this if it's possible to do so.)

[Christine]

Posted by huyi82 (here)

Posted by Snowbird (here)
This stems from the destructive timeline. Embrace destruction, and it will be yours. Embrace a positive and loving future, and this will be yours.

John Moore appears to be a man of God....not my God.

agreed, it's quite sad to see topics about death and destruction every day on project avalon, we are all here to learn and spiritually grow, how can we progress if we are leading off to self destruction?

The most Spiritual people I know are working night and day to prevent these events from happening, not one of them including myself are Embracing Destruction.

I have a couple of questions:

Is death and destruction happening in the physical everyday in mass numbers on our planet today or not?

Does ignoring these events mean they don't happen?

Has it ever entered your consciousness that the Act of Seeing without fear actually changes the timeline?

How many peaceful cultures have been wiped off the face of the earth while Embracing a Positive and Loving Future?

All of the folks that I know on Avalon and in my life are Embracing a positive future, they just aren't hiding their heads in the sand.

I think it is sad that there is so much death, destruction, manipulation, pain and suffering in our world. The fact that Avalonians will look at this squarely without running away is what makes this forum so valuable.

It amazes me how easy it is to slip into the stance that if we just meditate, visualize and pray for peace we will experience it. I agree this is possible for the dedicated few that do practice these disciplines.... but what about the masses, maybe they don't matter because it will be yours?

La Tigra (Christine)

[Operator]

Well, one source I checked is the Cosmic Obsession website: http://www.cosmicobsession.com
This is a telescope run by the 'people' ... no rumors there. I used to listen to the weekly radio show
and time and time again they have debunked possible effects or reality of something like this.
But hey, they're not god either so ...

I also found this snippet on http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=248116

have now spoken with Mike Harris's foreign intelligence source and verified that he has a scientific background and that he is convinced that the moon-sized object is headed this way and will pass as close as 1/3 the distance from the Earth to the Sun (if I understood this correctly) sometime between August 17 and September 26th.

So Mike Harris' source should be foreign and scientist ... ?
I cannot imagine that only the US east coast would be involved. How about foreign activity to prepare ?

Re: 1/3 the distance from the Earth to the Sun
I am no expert but that does not seem very close for devastating gravitational effects (tidal waves). Maybe electrical effects when such a body disrupts the balance in the solar system.

And we have the ever returning question of course: if it is that close and that big how come amateur astronomers don't see it yet ?